Skeate still doubtful

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 31 Aug 2010 at 22:48
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Sharks coach John Plumtree has revealed that, of a number of injured stars needing to be passed fit to face the Blue Bulls, Ross Skeate is the least likely. The lanky former Province second rower injured his groin in the gym last week and is in a race against time to recover.

Other players in doubt are Alistair Hargreaves, Bismarck du Plessis and Louis Ludik, although all three are expected to be ready in time. Neither Hargreaves nor du Plessis trained on Tuesday, though, making their inclusion still no better than 50-50.

Should neither Skeate nor Hargreaves recover in time, the Sharks will need to rely on Mike Rhodes and Anton Bresler to shore up the second row, with Gerhard Mostert deemed lacking in match fitness after being out for 6 months with a shoulder injury.


  • Rhodes had a good game, I would not mind playing him if the others are out.

    Its awesome to have such great backup!!

    Really hoping Ludik is ready, we can’t have Monty at the back again!

  • Comment 1, posted at 01.09.10 07:06:44 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 1) : agreed. then skeate and hargreaves can sit on the bench with rhodes as cover for the loose forwards.

  • Comment 2, posted at 01.09.10 07:40:53 by try time Reply

  • ealier this week guys were talking about sending mostert back, we don’t need him. i think this shows why you have three backup locks in your squad. so i am pleased we have 3 decent locks. they will all get game time so no stress.

  • Comment 3, posted at 01.09.10 07:42:59 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 3) :

    Im with you on that.. I would like to see what Mostert can do before we just sell him off again..

  • Comment 4, posted at 01.09.10 07:54:07 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 4) : definitely. the last few years we have used at least four locks in super rugby. muller ackerman would start and during the season sykes and albert had to do cover. all got good game time. then ackermann left and sykes took over and hargreaves and albert covered. this year sykes mostert hargreaves and steenkamp were used. so 4 locks are a necessity in super rugby, 5 is a luxury.

  • Comment 5, posted at 01.09.10 08:12:10 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 5) :

    And its particularly nice when you have a player in Rhodes who can cover lock as well as he did on the weekend, and cover flank.. Now that’s a luxury!!

  • Comment 6, posted at 01.09.10 08:18:25 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 6) : yes and keegan and burden that can cover loose forward and wing and hooker. so on the bench you could comfortably sit with a 5-2 split and a myriad of permutations depending on injuries and how the sharks are playing.

  • Comment 7, posted at 01.09.10 08:37:12 by try time Reply

  • I would rather us give the guys that are injured or have niggles enough time to fully recover. If Bissie’s not 100% he shouldn’t be risked, because in Burden and Cooper we have ample cover.

    Likewise with Ludik. Monty may not be the best fullback in the world (sorry, I mean Currie Cup), but he’s OK enough if we can keep possession, which is what we’ve managed to do of late. We could also move Oupa back to 15 and play Swannie at 13.

    And the same with Skeate and Hargs. Enough depth there with Sykes, Bresler and Rhodes.

  • Comment 8, posted at 01.09.10 08:41:50 by rhineshark Reply
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  • rugby definitely isn’t what it used to be 20 years ago where a player was position bound with specific roles. these days there are less specialists and more players playing various positions in a game irrespective of the number on his back. ryan is number 8, but how many times did you find him at center. wings at fullback, fullbacks at centre. the game has definitely improved.

  • Comment 9, posted at 01.09.10 08:47:44 by try time Reply

  • @rhineshark (Comment 8) : no monty was the one big weakness in the team on friday. he never covered the back leaving the sharks exposed (rob’s by the numbers backs this). making it easy for basson to take us apart. monty may be a good player, but he isn’t a fullback. rather move him to center and stefan back if you want him in the team.

  • Comment 10, posted at 01.09.10 08:54:01 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 9) : Morning TT….are you Dick Muir in disguise…(stirring) šŸ˜‰

  • Comment 11, posted at 01.09.10 08:54:07 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 11) : no eddie jones. or am i deans? all forward thinking coaches that have covered lack of depth with quality players played out of position and played well.

  • Comment 12, posted at 01.09.10 08:59:13 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 12) : and players who don’t whine about it. How are you TT? Enjoying the way the Sharks are playing again? Hats of to Plum for eventually changing the Sharks gameplan.

  • Comment 13, posted at 01.09.10 09:04:40 by Pokkel Reply
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  • most your australian coaches and players have had to adapt to fill holes left by the shortage of rugby players in oz. that is why i fancy the aussies in next years rwc. if they can keep their players fit, the youngsters will have played enough together to tighten the defensive problems they are going through at the moment. the flexibility they have in their squad gives deans a lot to use. i won’t be surprised if they make the finals. the boks have to do some player culling now or they are going to do what mallet did in 98.

  • Comment 14, posted at 01.09.10 09:09:19 by try time Reply

  • @Pokkel (Comment 13) : i think it is more the players working within his structure. plum doesn’t like risky rugby. you can see this in his interviews. for example he keeps moaning about pat not kicking enough. but the combination of pat and charl has taken a lot of pressure off the forwards and the sharks are looking stronger for it. the more charl and pat play, the less i miss rory and ruan. ruan was a special player. but he never had the confidence to be a great. so i like plums structures, but i enjoy the new guys that take the risks within those structures that are getting the team bonus points. pat, mvovo and charl have given the team a lot more strike power than we had during super rugby.

  • Comment 15, posted at 01.09.10 09:15:35 by try time Reply

  • @Pokkel (Comment 13) : yeah pat hasn’t moaned, nor has rhodes and it bodes well for the sharks. my concern next year is andre pretorius and jlp. will they be willing to move into other positions. against weaker opposition i would like to see pretorius tried at full back. it will be less demanding on his body, he will have more time to think and he has a good boot if needed. we were caught short at 15 against griquas.

  • Comment 16, posted at 01.09.10 09:23:32 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 15) : Maybe Plum didn’t think we had the personel in the S14 to play a more expansive game and he might have been right or too conservative to try new blood. The S15 is going to be interesting. JLP came to the Sharks specifically because he wanted more game time and at the moment it doesn’t look likely. I think Meyer Bosman is better at 12 than JLP. It is great to have the depth but player managment is going to be crucial to the Sharks success in the S15.

  • Comment 17, posted at 01.09.10 09:30:34 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 17) : We now look a bit thin at 15 and 13 in case of injuries and suddenly we will have 6 possible flyhalves. Lambie,JLP, Steve Meyer,Pretorius and even Hoffman or Meyer Bosman. How things can change in one year. maybe we can swop one of them for a decent 13 somewhere

  • Comment 18, posted at 01.09.10 09:35:09 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 18) : strauss and adi can cover 13. jlp must be kicking himself now. he wanted to move to durban to get more game time to try and get into the bok squad. doh! pat just killed that dream.

  • Comment 19, posted at 01.09.10 09:45:19 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 19) : Strauss is leaving

  • Comment 20, posted at 01.09.10 10:06:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : damn. just as he is playing his best rugby. pity. well this means there will be players that will be playing out of position next year. lets hope they take the opportunity with both hands like rhodes and pat have.

  • Comment 21, posted at 01.09.10 10:11:54 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 21) : what do you think about Swannie at 13?

  • Comment 22, posted at 01.09.10 10:33:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 13) : Hats off to the IRB for changing the application of the laws to benefit teams like the Sharks and Alll Blacks who thrive on quick attacking ball.

    You cut your cloth accordingly, but some people are just better suited to wearing gold chains and others, chain mail.

  • Comment 23, posted at 01.09.10 10:49:38 by Baldrick Reply

  • @try time (Comment 10) : Didn’t know he was that bad. I’ll trust your word for it šŸ˜‰

  • Comment 24, posted at 01.09.10 10:57:50 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : i have always liked swannie. until this years s14. then he bugged me with his crash ball tactics. he rarely found gaps and was quite willing to make two meters and get tackled. we have alberts deysel beast and bissie to do that, we don’t need a backline player doing it as well. for swannie to survive in the team he needs to work on a step and some speed training. defensively though i cannot fault the guy.

  • Comment 25, posted at 01.09.10 12:27:48 by try time Reply

  • @Baldrick (Comment 23) : pity the sharks wasted it during the s14 by playing 10 man rugby. good to see the backline disobeying plum and passing the ball. as much as plum moans about pat not kicking, it is this that has gotten the sharks bonus points. his success rate by keeping the ball in sharks hands has meant the sharks have had to defend a lot less and therefore have a lot more staying power come the last 20 minutes. robs by the numbers article confirms this. compare this to the s14 when stefan kicked possession away and we spent most our time and energy defending.

  • Comment 26, posted at 01.09.10 12:39:39 by try time Reply


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