Bulls want JP Pietersen – badly

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Lions, Original Content, Sharks, WP on 19 Sep 2010 at 09:46
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Our previous information that Bok winger JP Pietersen’s hefty price tag might rule the Blue Bulls out of pursuing his signature seems to be a little wide of the mark and Sharksworld now understands that the Pretoria union is in the process of weighing in with a big offer for the talented 24-year-old.

Pietersen, whose Sharks contract expires at the end of the current season, is clearly hot property on the transfer market and has yet to commit to a new Sharks deal as he weighs up the options available. Dick Muir, who claims the credit for “discovering” Pietersen back in 2005, is keen to lure him up to Johannesburg to play for the Golden Lions, while Western Province are understood to also be keen to lure the Stellenbosch-born Pietersen back to what they consider his natural home.

A lot of unions in South Africa seem to find themselves somewhat surprisingly short of quality wing depth at the moment and if you just look at some of the names that are regularly featuring on Currie Cup team sheets – like that of Jaco van der Weshuyzen – it really isn’t surprising that Pietersen, along with another real talent in Griquas flyer Bjorn Basson, is on the top of everybody’s wish lists. Make no mistake – it’s the Bulls that really want and need Pietersen the most, having failed to find a quality flyer to replace the departing Bryan Habana and limping through the previous Super Rugby with Francois Hougaard out of position on the wing. Akona Ndungane looks unlikely to feature as a serious prospect again after all his injuries and while Gerhard van den Heever is coming along nicely, players such as John Mametsa, Sampie Mastriet and Clayton Blommetjies simply aren’t Springbok class.

Province don’t really need JP – they just want him because Rassie likes to collect Springboks and Johann Rupert seems more than happy to pay for them. The Lions, on the other hand, have some superb young talent coming through in the likes of Wandile Mjekevu, but would probably see Pietersen as the perfect third member in a back three that also contains Jaco Taute. The close relationship that Pietersen has with his former mentor could well be a major factor if he does decide to throw his lot in with the Lions.

What of the Sharks, then? To my mind, it’s simple. We are the guys in possession and have always treated JP incredibly well, playing him as first choice wing whenever fit, through form both good and average. He’s a class player and a key part of our long term plans and we simply have to make it worth his while to stay. I like to believe that in these sorts of negotiations, the incumbent team should always start off with a big head start, as long as the player is settled and has been well-treated and I have no reason to believe that any of that doesn’t apply here. With the Lionel Mapoe saga turning into a real mess and no other obvious challengers for JP coming through the system just yet (I’m assuming he and Mvovo will be the first-choice wingers next season), the Sharks really do need him as much as, if not more than, the Bulls, Lions or anyone else.

To my mind, it becomes a simple equation for the Sharks. Find enough money to give JP whatever he wants and add a little bit more on top. Then let’s go and win the Super 15. Easy peasy, really!


  • I really hope he decides to stay, he is a class winger when on form. Durban is so much better than the hypoxic plateau.

  • Comment 1, posted at 19.09.10 10:12:52 by pinkfish Reply
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  • Oh hell no! JPP should stay right where he is. 👿

  • Comment 2, posted at 19.09.10 10:28:36 by Jarson Reply
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  • yeah we really need to hold onto him. I’d definately be willing to donate to a keep JPP with the sharks fund…

  • Comment 3, posted at 19.09.10 11:38:06 by RuckingFun Reply

  • Sharks must do whatever it takes to keep JPP. With Mvovo and JPP we have super class wings. Also if all goes well with Mapoe (hoping) he will still get game time. Going to need bigger squads for next year to rotate players with such a long, long season in the S15.

  • Comment 4, posted at 19.09.10 11:48:17 by Puma Reply

  • from a Lions point of view i recon his experience will be of great value !!!

    Hoping the lions can pull this one off

  • Comment 5, posted at 19.09.10 12:09:39 by Zibbie Reply
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  • “Rassie likes to collect Springboks ” – that’s funny.

  • Comment 6, posted at 19.09.10 13:55:46 by rugbypedia Reply

  • @rugbypedia (Comment 6) : And true.

    WP has a tendency to buy has-beens – or players that have reached a plateau in terms of potential. Think Muir, Small, Stransky, Montgomery (after he resurrected his career at the Sharks, like Skinstad) and now Habana. Although I hope I’m wrong on that last one, for the Springboks’ sake.

  • Comment 7, posted at 19.09.10 14:16:42 by MerckZ Reply

  • @ RuckingFun (Comment 3)
    I agree with you Rob, Sharks need to do everything in their power to keep JPP. I’m with you on this one RuckingFun, I for one would contribute towards such a cause. We as the Sharks’ biggest stakeholders need to get involved in securing the services of our key players i.e. JPP, kanko, Mapoe etc (Cheetahs are going to sue for damages as LM is in breach of contract – hopefully the judge will be reasonable). Rudolph has done well to ensure that we have the players to successfully complete future campaigns; we can’t lose our key players at this stage. If it means letting go of JS (not contradicting myself), so be it, R4.5 m is too much.

  • Comment 8, posted at 19.09.10 15:00:47 by GreatSharksays Reply

  • I want a Ferrari. Doesn’t mean I’m speaking to a dealership or have any chance of getting one.

  • Comment 9, posted at 19.09.10 19:42:32 by KSA Pink Shark © Reply

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  • This whole saga confirms why the Sharks were/are so hell bent on obtaining one Lionel Mapoe. What was this lad promised/told? That JPP would be going and that he would be first choice then? I think that the securing of JPP by the Bulls are at a much more advanced stage than anybody would think likely. I for one realy hope that JPP stays!! PS, how much value do the Sharks players attach to John Smit as a person ans future coach? How many guys will follow him to the Lions?

  • Comment 10, posted at 19.09.10 20:53:17 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

  • @KSA Pink Shark © (Comment 9) :
    You WANT a Ferrari……the other unions NEEDS a quality wing (Ferrari).

  • Comment 11, posted at 19.09.10 20:54:42 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 10) :

    I don’t believe the hype. You should not believe everything you read.

    We need more than just 2 wings for the loooooooong S15. We have Ndungane & Mvovo. Add to that JPP and Mapoe and we will be sitting pretty. A good rotation policy will do the Sharks and the Springboks the world of good.

    JPP will have a great chance of balancing rest and playing time if we have back-ups in the S15.

    If the Bulls are that desperate then he will be playing all of their games.

  • Comment 12, posted at 19.09.10 21:11:37 by KSA Pink Shark © Reply

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  • I’s afraid all the articles SPECULATING about movement serve as nothing more than something to create a better market value for players and cause nothing worry/concern amongst the supporters.

    Why bother? Report it when it happens.

  • Comment 13, posted at 19.09.10 21:15:17 by KSA Pink Shark © Reply

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  • @JustPlainShark (comment 10)
    At the time Mapoe’s agent approached the Sharks, Odwa’s and JPP contracts were going to expire at the end of this season. Odwa is 29, he’s still good but probably has another year to go so it made sense to “secure “the services of Mapoe. Super 15 is going to be too demanding, need to rest players at times.
    Remember that JPP also gives us options at 15, Ludik has shown that he is injury prone and is yet to deliver a performance that made him famous. Imagine if at one stage we can assemble a backline containing 9 Charll 10 Lambie 11 Mvovo 12 Bosman 13 Adi 14 Mapoe 15 JPP.

  • Comment 14, posted at 19.09.10 21:30:04 by GreatSharksays Reply

  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 14) :
    that made him famous

    MADE? 😛 That is a concern of mine, I am hoping he WILL be famous in the future, at the moment I just don’t see it though.

    I see him (CURRENTLY) as one of those GOOD CC players but very average at S14 level.

  • Comment 15, posted at 19.09.10 21:36:42 by KSA Pink Shark © Reply

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  • I have to agree, Ludik is not yet the guy I’ve known before at the Lions. I’m sure that he’ll improve soon.

  • Comment 16, posted at 20.09.10 07:16:10 by Jarson Reply
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  • @Jarson (Comment 16) :

    Absolutely agree, he had a horrendous injury, but I do believe that he will be back to his best come S15.

  • Comment 17, posted at 20.09.10 07:42:37 by Bump Reply

  • We are also forgetting that the Bulle are after Bjorn Basson as well, and those rumours have been around since last season. What if the Bulle get Basson?

  • Comment 18, posted at 20.09.10 08:10:03 by war1 Reply
  • @war1 (Comment 18) : That is not a rumour though it was confirmed by Griquas I believe.

  • Comment 19, posted at 20.09.10 08:22:03 by KSA Pink Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Pink Shark © (Comment 19) : the only problem appears to be the transfer fee

  • Comment 20, posted at 20.09.10 08:24:58 by war1 Reply
  • @war1 (Comment 20) : well, the fact that the kwasse need to agree to the bulls paying one, and then of course the cheetahs want some compensation as well

  • Comment 21, posted at 20.09.10 08:27:42 by war1 Reply
  • @KSA Pink Shark © (Comment 12) :

    What about the up and coming youngsters??

    Megatron’s cousin/nephew is a good prospect isnt he?? 😕 ❓

  • Comment 22, posted at 20.09.10 08:49:55 by wpw Reply
  • @war1 (Comment 18) : That’s just it. On the radio this morning it was reported that the Bulls are the front runners in obtaining Basson’s signature. I’m also pretty sure that they will obtain his services and that might just have them back-off a bit with regards to JPP.

    Do we have any news on Kanko? This weekend he proved again what a great player he is and how well he fits in with our game plan.

  • Comment 23, posted at 20.09.10 08:51:00 by Farlington Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 22) : That’s rich coming from a WP supporter 😉

  • Comment 24, posted at 20.09.10 09:43:57 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Farlington (Comment 23) : I think Hoff will stick around, at least for a year

  • Comment 25, posted at 20.09.10 09:57:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • 🙄 🙄

  • Comment 26, posted at 20.09.10 10:08:16 by rekinek (in pink) Reply
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  • JPP will stay with the sharks i thinks! one just has to believe and stay positive! 🙂

  • Comment 27, posted at 20.09.10 13:13:04 by richzed Reply

  • ok, hang on…. what’s coming through on the waves here?

    Bulls using JP as a ruse to force Griquas/Cheetahs to move quickly on Basson?

  • Comment 28, posted at 20.09.10 13:29:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) :
    More or less what i was rying o say earlier. I understand that it was necesary to get back-up/depth for the strenuous S15, but the fact that Odwa and JPP’s contracts expires this year, just made it appear the reason why the Sharks would want to get Mapoe. I mean, in almost all these comments the word “RUMOUR” is used at liberty. So why would JPP’s move elsewhere (WP, Lions, BB) not been whispered in the hallways of unions?

  • Comment 29, posted at 20.09.10 14:13:33 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

  • Well it might be obvious……certain agents do not have the uhm most ‘honourable?’ intentions (unethical). So Bjorn’s agent would make the BB’s intentions known in order to force a union’s hand. Maybe JPP has such a high ethical standard that he told his agent that he would stay until the end of his contract and that he would not even consider any other offers from elsewhere. Certainly the agent acts on his client’s instructions. Or at least is supposed to.
    @KSA: i certainly dont believe anything i read, but if i step on a lump of dog poo while i go out at 22:00 to lock the car, i am certainly going to argue and figure out if it was not perhaps something else (hopefully) that i stepped into. 🙂 in the end, i can argue as much as i want to, but i would only know for certain if i get into the LIGHT to see what is the soft stuff between my toes.

  • Comment 30, posted at 20.09.10 14:20:44 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

  • I think JPP is playing in good form at the moment but its worth pointing out a point which my old man made and the more I watch him, the more I agree. JPP seems to not be too keen to get involved on defense. Yes, he has mde a few try savers in his time, but watch for the regularity with which he falls off tackles or simply doesnt commit properly and watches the offense slip past. Good offensive player, but a little lackluster when the ball is going the other way. Not that I’m saying we shouldnt want to keep him, but the amout a player is paid should be be based on both offensive and defensive aspects of their game. 😕

  • Comment 31, posted at 20.09.10 15:14:15 by Nhumrod Reply

  • @Nhumrod (Comment 31) :

    Seems his giving all of his defense to the Boks….(he has had a few good ones for them) – but I agree with you here..

  • Comment 32, posted at 20.09.10 15:18:45 by Pink Ice Reply
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  • @Nhumrod (Comment 31) : Cool flag.

  • Comment 33, posted at 21.09.10 08:55:32 by klempie Reply

  • Ta. I was born in Durban to an SA mother and Scottish father, then grew up in Scotland… (living in England now though… boo).

  • Comment 34, posted at 21.09.10 10:10:08 by Nhumrod Reply

  • @Nhumrod (Comment 34) : Gotta love to hate the Poms. 😛

  • Comment 35, posted at 21.09.10 10:25:07 by klempie Reply

  • @Nhumrod (Comment 34) : where in England?

  • Comment 36, posted at 21.09.10 10:27:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • Lightwater in Surrey (J3 of the M3). You?

  • Comment 37, posted at 21.09.10 11:34:51 by Nhumrod Reply

  • @Nhumrod (Comment 37) : sevenoaks, kent. J5 m25. Are you anywhere near Hook?

  • Comment 38, posted at 21.09.10 12:23:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • Not far, Hook is just over 20 mins away down the M3… (J5)

  • Comment 39, posted at 21.09.10 13:35:14 by Nhumrod Reply

  • @Nhumrod (Comment 39) : ok cool… I tend to go through there every so often to see a customer

  • Comment 40, posted at 21.09.10 14:07:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • 😎

  • Comment 41, posted at 21.09.10 14:34:34 by Nhumrod Reply

  • can it be considered limping through the S14, if Hougaard and vdHeever scored 7 and 8 tries respectively?

  • Comment 42, posted at 30.09.10 14:46:42 by bloubulblog Reply

  • 👿 😈
    from one post to another please just leave our players alone 👿
    JP you just stay where you are and agree Rob lets gv him what we can if we hd that to gv to Mapoe then use some of it for JP :mrgreen:

  • Comment 43, posted at 30.09.10 14:55:39 by chaz Reply

  • @RuckingFun (Comment 3) : i think if most of us do that then he’ll know how much he means to his supporters :mrgreen:

  • Comment 44, posted at 30.09.10 14:57:01 by chaz Reply

  • @Zibbie (Comment 5) : 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿 😈 no

  • Comment 45, posted at 30.09.10 14:58:32 by chaz Reply

  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 10) : 👿 😈 😕 ❓

  • Comment 46, posted at 30.09.10 15:01:09 by chaz Reply


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