Another big clash in the tank

Written by Warren Smith (war1)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 10 Oct 2010 at 19:18
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The Currie Cup round robin phase has been completed and the semifinalists and their final log positions have been decided. South Africa’s four strongest teams have all qualified for the semis and each team does have legitimate title credentials.

After the weekend’s loss to Western Province at Newlands, all and sundry have been writing off the Sharks and talking up the Blue Bulls who had a seemingly laboured win over Griquas in Kimberley. The critics would point to the Sharks losing to the Blue Bulls, Lions and Western Province in recent weeks as evidence that the men in black and white are on a downward slide and are going to lose to the defending champions this coming Saturday. The question seems to be who the Bulls will play in the final. Well, I for one would not write off this Sharks team that easily.

The Sharks have lost four games this year, the first one was in the opening game against the Griquas in Kimberley when perhaps the gameplan was not estabilished and a few players were missing from the starting lineup after which the team built up some impressive momentum. The second loss came as the Sharks were looking to extend their lead on the log to almost ridiculous proportions and the Bulls were fighting for their lives, and the Bulls duly won at home despite a late Sharks rally. The third loss of the season came against the Lions came after the Sharks had won a crucial home game against the Cheetahs which cemented their position at the top of the log. Once again the home side were fighting for their lives and the Sharks essentially had nothing to lose. After securing top spot on the log and resting a few players, the Sharks faced a fired up WP team gunning for a home semi final and who were playing in front of a packed Newlands. Once again, the Sharks succumbed to a desperate home side. But once again, the Sharks had nothing to lose in this game.

This brings me to the upcoming semi final against the Bulls. A friend of mine who admittedly does support the Bulls says the Bulls win when it counts and the Sharks do not. Well, the Bulls have proved him right on the first count on many an occasion on the first point including this season with crucial home wins against the Lions and Western Province keeping their Currie Cup challenge alive. Some might argue that the Sharks proved his second point right by losing to the Bulls, Lions and Western Province. I for one don’t think they have and will point to crucial home victories against the selfsame Bulls, as well as Western Province and the Cheetahs which were all crucial wins in their quest to top the log.

Does anyone else see a pattern here? Home ground advantage has been a crucial factor in the tight and must-win games. The Springboks may a play a factor in the playoffs but it has been shown this season that a Sharks team is very difficult to beat at home and the Bulls will not have the easy ride which has been predicted. I for one hope the Sharks will use the stories of how they will choke against the Bulls and how great the Bulls are as ammunition to get themselves fired up for what is admittedly a massive challenge but crucially for the Sharks it is a home game.

While I am by no means writing off a Bulls team who has shown some incredible BMT over the years, a fired up Sharks team at home will be a formidable opponent themselves.


  • I must admit,after the game I was a bit worried. . . . After Plums post-maych interview I am much more confident.

  • Comment 1, posted at 10.10.10 19:41:49 by Mocho Reply
  • Bring it on Bulls ! 😈

  • Comment 2, posted at 10.10.10 20:16:59 by Charlie Reply
  • 2 Things I saw in that game:

    1. (Especially at the beginning of the game) We kicked the ball far more (the stats should tell). I was sitting in the bar getting fustrated and I hope the Sharks don’t desert the gameplan that has been working for them the whole CC season.

    2. When Pat Lambie moved to flyhalf, and Charlie came onto the field, the game seemed to move more freely, Lambie seemed more of a threat and the whole backline seemed more alive. Special mention also goes to Adi Jacobs who seemed very alive at No13. Ludik also looked alive.

    I am also very confused. At one point in the game Andre Pretorius left the field. Lambie shifted to flyhalf, Adi came on at No13 and Oupa moved to fullback. Then Louis Ludik came onto the field and I missed who was replaced. Either way in which position did he play whilst on the field?

  • Comment 3, posted at 10.10.10 21:05:44 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 3) : Lambie remained at flyhalf at the time, Adi was a 13 and I’m sure that Terblanche remained on the field. Did Ludik play on the wing then?

  • Comment 4, posted at 10.10.10 21:08:06 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • Also another interesting thing I noticed was that we won the second half (14-13) though Province probably deserved more tries. Credit to the Sharks good defense that stopped almost certain tries from being scored.

  • Comment 5, posted at 10.10.10 21:11:18 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 2) : We already being written off! The Bulls seem to have forgotten the 34-28 win in the tank a few months ago. Must be those drunken nights out beating up police men! 😈 😈

  • Comment 6, posted at 10.10.10 21:15:46 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • Bulls at full strength anywhere quite daunting imo. 😐

  • Comment 7, posted at 10.10.10 21:52:11 by McLovin Reply

  • Gee come on i know its long and 2 read this one on a Sunday 😳

    ok let me get at this one me reading and commenting while i’m reading maybe it won’t be so long πŸ˜‰
    ok me go

    this is just 2 long to read and then comment and then write 😳

    Great post must say πŸ™‚

    well maybe that friend of urs is telling the truth
    and we hv won most of our games and lost maybe the 4 games πŸ˜•

    which brings me to the same as urs win all the games at home which we hv :mrgreen:

    and then get 2 the semi’s and like in the past we lose the semi’s πŸ˜₯

    So SHARKS PLEASEEEEEE with all our hearts put together and ADI i hope u are reading this and the rest of the team just win thats all we are asking just win not much we can ask for but a win :mrgreen: πŸ˜‰


    :mrgreen: GO SHARKS JUST GO AND GIVE UR BEST :mrgreen:


    and from me no more bets to be taken like in me post
    (Its all in the name of the game) 😳 πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 8, posted at 10.10.10 21:53:18 by chaz Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 2) : Tell them
    ADI :mrgreen:

    We are behind the team :mrgreen:

  • Comment 9, posted at 10.10.10 21:54:36 by chaz Reply

  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 6) : As long as they think we hv been written off 😳 but we will be back and this one we mustn’t lose at all πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 10, posted at 10.10.10 21:57:48 by chaz Reply

  • If we cant beat them without du preez we are chokers ❗

  • Comment 11, posted at 10.10.10 22:10:07 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 4) : if I’m not mistaken ludik came on for strauss and stefan moved back to centre and ludik to fb

  • Comment 12, posted at 10.10.10 22:25:49 by Benna08 Reply
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  • du preez

    is who πŸ˜•

  • Comment 13, posted at 10.10.10 22:25:59 by chaz Reply

  • @chaz (Comment 13) : πŸ™„

  • Comment 14, posted at 10.10.10 22:27:54 by chaz Reply

  • @chaz (Comment 14) : πŸ˜†

  • Comment 15, posted at 10.10.10 23:10:57 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @Honey Badger (Comment 15) : going to bed now but oh i hope and a must win for the SHARKS thats all we need :mrgreen: πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 16, posted at 10.10.10 23:14:02 by chaz Reply

  • ha out of all the teams sharks could play they get the bulls ,sharks are lucky fourie du preez isn,t playing .The sharks have a better chance of winning with Andre Pretoruis though they,ve got to pick up there game though have to dominate the bulls at the collision points and outmuscle them which is more possible now then ever but there such an all round team ha and put f.hougard ,morne steyn and jaco pretoruis axis under pressure .The sharks have a good chance though wouldn,t call them favourites though

  • Comment 17, posted at 10.10.10 23:27:05 by zvision10 Reply

  • @zvision10 (Comment 17) : locks and willem alberts will have to put in a huge performance … actually,the whole sharks team will have to put in the performance of their season …the sharks cannot realistically call themselves favourites,because these bulls players have the winners`medals in their homes to prove what they are capable of .. but that is just where we can beat them ..we know what they are capable of ..we know how big the challenge is that lies ahead ..we have seen the heights they can reach ..now ,the moment is asking of this sharks team :can you better the best you have given before? can you show to the fans at the sharktank what you are capable of ?of the heights you can reach?…

  • Comment 18, posted at 10.10.10 23:44:52 by bergshark Reply

  • The Sharks played a different game on Saturday, kicked too much and didn’t contest in the loose with the ferocity of a team that needs to win. As a result they did not put WP under pressure like they have done in earlier games. The Sharks will, I am certain, play the game that took them to the final and put The Bulls under pressure to make mistakes. This is a game The Sharks have to win, they are playing at home so they will have the initiative.

  • Comment 19, posted at 10.10.10 23:52:53 by Donald Reply

  • Hahaha nice I like the inspirational message I,d be lying though if I said I wasn,t expecting them to choke but they,ve got the team to do it though if plum can,t win He needs to go

  • Comment 20, posted at 10.10.10 23:57:00 by zvision10 Reply

  • @Donald (Comment 19) : we didnt pick-and-go enough ,i feel..didnt tie them in ,and thus create opportunities for kockott to run snipe from rucks .. we need to contest the zone beyond the tackle area .step-over the tackle,drive through arriving opposition support players ..isolate the tackled player on our side ..means we will have to get their in numbers at the tackle area ..and goalkicking is gonna be crucial ,,also discipline ..and go in low and hard when tackling ..and dont run 10,20 m with a opposition ball-carrier 😑 tackle him!!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.10.10 00:01:11 by bergshark Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 2) : thats the spirit,adi πŸ™‚ !!! (dont know if i will start with you,though ..)

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.10.10 00:03:45 by bergshark Reply

  • how many boks in the bulls team? how many ?? ..it doesnt matter how many of them are boks now ..because i know how many of the sharks are still gonna be bok legends !!!!!

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.10.10 00:11:19 by bergshark Reply

  • @zvision10 (Comment 20) : “THE MOMENT” is there ..waiting to be seized .. to be owned .. it is all up to them ..

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.10.10 00:13:59 by bergshark Reply

  • just read on rugby365 that John Mitchell is in hospital, he got stabbed in the leg. How very shit is thatt. Hope he stays in SA he’s made a good contribution to the lions

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.10.10 01:10:49 by RuckingFun Reply

  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 3) : Ludik replaced Strauss and went in at fullback, Stef and Adi in the centres.

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.10.10 05:05:26 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • i am a ig bulls supporter, and i would be the first to admit that most of the bulls supporters do not see this game as clear cut as some journo’s would make us believe.

    while i am confident that my team can pull this one through, i am not 100% sure that they will.

    knockout games between sharks and bulls have delivered some great matches over the last couple of years, and i am looking forward to another one. one thing is for sure, there will only be a couple of points in it.

    any news on bismarck?

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.10.10 06:59:14 by bloubulblog Reply

  • @bloubulblog (Comment 27) : apparently Bissie was carrying an ankle knock the whole week and could have played on but Plum thought he should pull him off. He will be fit for the semi, so too Alberts and Daniel

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.10.10 07:27:24 by war1 Reply
  • Always a HUGE game between the Sharks and the Bulls…..I’ll have to have something to calm my nerves before the game….I’m already tense about it and it’s only Monday.

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.10.10 07:54:42 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I am quite sure this is within the boundary of the Rules.


  • Comment 30, posted at 11.10.10 08:01:27 by klempie Reply

  • @war1 (Comment 28) : thanks, war1.

    it would be a big loss for you, if he can’t play. i would happily rather play against craig burden. even though burden played really well against us in the previous game at kings park.

    it is going to be awesome to see bismarck and alberts come up against bakkies and danie. there will be blood…

  • Comment 31, posted at 11.10.10 08:01:36 by bloubulblog Reply

  • @bloubulblog (Comment 31) : will spies play?

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.10.10 08:08:04 by war1 Reply
  • I would rather have Alberts in my team then spies or bakkies.

    But this is the game that I wait for the season,Sharks vs bulls ko stages is always GREAT,just hope the ref can do a good job.

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.10.10 08:57:00 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • Don`t think I`m quite ready to let rip yet. . .

    I just wonder what Plum was thinking.
    If he argues they didn`t give their all against wp I`d want to know why choose to play against stronger opposition in the semi when they could have had it a bit easier.
    If he argued they gave it their all and wasn`t good enough . . . does that mean our season is done we`re just going through the motions now?
    Pity I didn`t see the post match interview. Was too disgusted to hang around for excuses.

  • Comment 34, posted at 11.10.10 09:02:43 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 1) : I did not see the post match interviews. Can you maybe summarize please?

  • Comment 35, posted at 11.10.10 09:39:24 by SharksRTB Reply

  • I unfortunately (or is it fortunately) could only watch the second half. And have to admit, the scoreline doesn’t really bother me that much. And i dont think it bothered the players that much. BUT ❗ ( AND A BIG BUT ) ❗ what does worry me, is all the substitutes and then players playing out of position. Well, not really out of position, but taking the previous 13 games into consideration, it seems to be out of position. And that just did not quite work out. That worries me. πŸ™ 😯 😐

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.10.10 09:44:53 by SharksRTB Reply

  • I know this sounds crazy, but I don’t think it is a bad thing playing against the Bulls in the semi’s. Remember that there are a fair amount of changes in the Bulls team with their Boks coming back. They only had one game against a team that should not have given them any problems to begin with. So rather face them now before they gain too much momentum.

    The result of the WP vs Sharks game was expected although I was dissappointed in the way they changed the game plan. Also too many penalties were given away but I’m sure Plumtree will be working on that this week.

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.10.10 09:51:20 by Farlington Reply

  • @bloubulblog (Comment 31) : we’re gonna have some lekker banter this coming week, that’s for sure!

    3 Sharks-Bulls semis! what a dream

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.10.10 09:55:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 32) : the official presser from the bulls, says that spies and stegmann will undergo fitness test tomorrow to determine their availability.

    early word is that stegmann has a better chance than spies.

    would be nice to have him available, but in danie rossouw we have a very, very good replacement. (some would argue he is better than spies…)

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.10.10 09:59:47 by bloubulblog Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : gotta love semi-final week! it’s going to be awesome

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.10.10 10:02:24 by bloubulblog Reply

  • I have a blue feeling about this one.

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.10.10 10:04:07 by McLovin Reply

  • @bloubulblog (Comment 39) : I am one of them.

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.10.10 10:11:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 41) : are you at home? Changed jobs? Still in SA?

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.10.10 10:12:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) : In the dole queue. πŸ™

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.10.10 10:13:45 by McLovin Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 42) : as much as i love the way danie rossouw plays, i still rate spies more as a nr 8.

    people seem to really quickly forget how good spies is to give a pack going backwards, forward momentum. in the 2009 super 14 the bulls scrum were not doing very well at all. and if it wasn’t for spies getting us on the front foot, we might not have won the comp.

    remember when we picked kankowski behind a bok pack going backwards? while kanko is an awesome player when the game is loose, he just couldn’t get over the adv line with a pack going backwards (this isn’t aimed at kanko specifically, some other nr 8’s would also not have been able to get over the adv line).a

    while i appreciate that spies has not had a great test season, he is one of those guys in the bulls team who can step up.

    and (crucify me if you want…) i feel that the AB’s and the Aussies really marked Spies well in the 3N, and that is what caused Juan Smith and Burger to have just that tad more space.

  • Comment 45, posted at 11.10.10 10:20:34 by bloubulblog Reply

  • @bloubulblog (Comment 45) : Groot Daan is awesome you`re lucky to have him! 😯

  • Comment 46, posted at 11.10.10 11:34:39 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 44) : ah kak mate… sorry to hear. If there’s a positive to take, though, at least it means you’ll soon get your second platinum star!

  • Comment 47, posted at 11.10.10 11:39:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @bloubulblog (Comment 45) : will never crucify you for backing your own players πŸ™‚

  • Comment 48, posted at 11.10.10 11:41:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 46) : he sure is. if he played outside of the Vic-Bakkies era, he would have been a legend.

    can you believe that he still played fullback at Craven Week in matric?

  • Comment 49, posted at 11.10.10 11:51:30 by bloubulblog Reply

  • @bloubulblog (Comment 49) : where did he go to school?

  • Comment 50, posted at 11.10.10 12:21:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 50) : danie went to Rob Ferreira in White River.

    they always had big rivalries with HoΓ«rskool Nelspruit, and even though Rob is smaller by quite a margin, they quite regularly beat their neighbours from Nelspruit.

  • Comment 51, posted at 11.10.10 12:24:04 by bloubulblog Reply

  • @bloubulblog (Comment 49) : who, danie?? from which school is he? and its nice to have a blue bulls supporter on the site that you can have a decent rugby chat with. respect.

    to add to the danie topic, usually, a guy like danie would leave for a team for regular game time, but imo, his one of the most underrated players in a long time. hes slots in everywhere and can do the job, without moaning! i will never forget his try in thw 2007 WC, was it against the argies?

  • Comment 52, posted at 11.10.10 12:24:34 by VanWilder Reply

  • Good Day to all the Sharks Supporters! What a great game awaits us! I am looking forward to another great rugby clash! As a very passionate Blue Bull supporter I have been to all the Finals between the Bulls and Sharks that was played at Kingspark.. I am sure none of you will forget any of tehm Especially the 2007 Super 14 one! πŸ™‚

    Those games gave me some of my best rugby moments!

    Good Luck to you guys. Any info on why Andre “Porselein” Pretorius played Saturday? Surely your coach wont be stupid enough to play him in the starting team for the semi’s?

  • Comment 53, posted at 11.10.10 12:25:12 by BulleBlog Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 50) : if you ever feel really, really brave…

    go to the Lios pub in White River when a Bulls game is on, and dare say something derogatory about Danie. He is a big hero in his hometown.

  • Comment 54, posted at 11.10.10 12:25:19 by bloubulblog Reply

  • @VanWilder (Comment 52) : thanks, VW. appreciate it.

    as mentioned in an earlier comment, danie went to Rob Ferreira in White River.

    apparently you guys were after him and habana (this was a couple of years ago). but he is a very loyal bulls player, and i seriously doubt that he would ever play for another province in SA. he might be heading to Japan next year though

  • Comment 55, posted at 11.10.10 12:29:17 by bloubulblog Reply

  • I think Saturday is going to be HUGE forward battle.. The Bulls front row will need to step up against your Front Row! It is a pitty we lost Gary Botha! But now Chilliboy finally gets his chance to show the SA Rugby community why he is rated. (I am still waiting for that game, although he did play well the last couple of games)

  • Comment 56, posted at 11.10.10 12:30:47 by BulleBlog Reply

  • @bloubulblog (Comment 54) : this was meant to say Lions pub.

  • Comment 57, posted at 11.10.10 12:37:05 by bloubulblog Reply

  • @bloubulblog (Comment 51) : Vleis Visagie also went to Rob Ferreira… ay, Vleis.

    What a great oke. And what a tragic story.

  • Comment 58, posted at 11.10.10 12:40:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @bloubulblog (Comment 55) : @BulleBlog (Comment 56) : i think morne and francois will pepper our back 3 with up-and-unders. the same gameplan you guys used against the wp at loftus. even the forward battle will be something to look forward to.

    i think what makes this even a better specticle, is that in previous years, in this particular clash, there usually was a favourite, but this year it could go either way. it will be the old cliche of whoever wants it the most.

  • Comment 59, posted at 11.10.10 12:42:15 by VanWilder Reply

  • @BulleBlog (Comment 56) : welcome here!

  • Comment 60, posted at 11.10.10 12:42:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 58) : very tragic. he is also a big hero in that part of SA

  • Comment 61, posted at 11.10.10 12:51:56 by bloubulblog Reply

  • @VanWilder (Comment 59) : But it’s about time that the Sharks wants it the most don’t you think?

  • Comment 62, posted at 11.10.10 14:01:13 by SharksRTB Reply


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