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Sharks player ratings v Western Province

Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks, WP on 11 Oct 2010 at 09:12
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Here is a look at the individual player ratings for the loss against Western Province on Saturday night. It is rather difficult to rate a team overall after 8 changes were made and some of them being returning Springboks who haven’t played a stitch of rugby in more than a month.

Let’s look at how the individuals did.

1) Tendai Mtawarira. The first of the returning Boks, looked a bit rusty and did not have as many runs with ball in hand as we have become use to seeing. Solid in the scrums though. 6/10.
2) Bismarck du Plessis. Bissie has the tendency to take a while to become match fit, and the break was clearly evident in his play. He was off the pace, did not have any of his notable runs that he so enjoys, and cost the Sharks a few points with his penalty count. 5/10.
3) Jannie du Plessis. Was there and there abouts this week, scrumming well. We all expected the Sharks to dominate the scrums, and this did not happen. 6/10.
4) Gerhard Mostert. Had a much better game in his second run out. Our lineouts were disappointing though, and as much as Bismarck can be blamed for his wayward throwing, the locks didn’t exactly shine. Played the full 80 minutes, which was good to see. 6/10.
5) Alistair Hargreaves. Did not see much of big Al, and I hope that means he was busy in the rucking department. He can also shoulder some of the blame for the poor lineout performance. 5/10.
6) Jacques Botes. Botes had a busy game and tried running a lot of the ball. He was missing in the second half but I suspect we will see he was busy in the rucks. Defensively he was very good. 6/10.
7) Michael Rhodes. Got a full 80 minutes this week, and he was very impressive in his work rate and defensively. He is not in the same mould as Willem Alberts, who was sorely missed this weekend, but an impressive player nonetheless. 7/10.
8) Ryan Kankowski. Returning back from his enforced lay off, Ryan has not quite hit the form we know he is capable of. He did score a very opportunistic try, but was not at his best by knocking on a few important balls. 6/10
9) Rory Kockott. This was surely not Rory’s best performance, and he went a long way in confirming that Charl McLeod is the form scrumhalf at the moment. His passing was poor and wayward, and lacked the kicking game brought by Ricky Januarie. 5/10.
10) Andre Pretorius. Andre showed that he is not quite up to the same standard as the other flyhalves in the competition, with a game filled with missed tackles and poor decision making. His trusty boot was not used as Lambie was entrusted with the kicking duties. 5/10.
11) Lwazi Mvovo. Yet another quiet game for the winger, in a game where the ball did not get out wide, and the type of game Lwazi plays by waiting for the ball prevented any action. He did try his all when collecting kicks but had a poor game in comparison to Jean de Villiers, his opposite number. 6/10.
12) Andries Strauss. Andries put in a few amazing hits and was pretty decent on defence. He does lack the potency on attack to scare any line-up in front of him. He did not do much wrong. 7/10.
13) Stefan Terblanche. Captain courageous did not have a great game, not seeing much of the ball firstly, and being rather poor on defence. The WP centre pairing got past him a few times. He lacks pace and it showed. 5/10.
14) Odwa Ndungane. A quiet game for Odwa, again the ball did not exactly make its way to the wings that often. Was showed up for pace on numerous occasions, but got involved and was trying to get his hands on the ball. 6/10.
15) Pat Lambie. For his first game back at fullback in the competition, he did okay. He was decent under the high ball and was not scared to go for it in the air. He is just not in the same league as Ludik when it comes to the 15 jersey. 6/10.

16) Craig Burden. Was lively in the 15 minutes he played, as he always does. Not quite on the field long enough for a rating.
17) Eugene van Staden. Came onto the field twice, firstly for Mtawarira and secondly for du Plessis and had to cover both sides of the scrum. He was solid and the scrum looked the same with him there compared to the Springboks. 6/10.
18) Steven Sykes. Replaced big Al with 30 minutes to play, and looked good. He got involved in the rucking and was solid in the lineouts. 6/10.
19) Keegan Daniel. Was not used, thankfully.
20) Charl McLeod. Replaced Kockott with 30 minutes still to play, and there was a clear difference in the amount and quality of the ball the backline got. 7/10.
21) Adi Jacobs. Got a full 30 minutes and was rather impressive. He was always looking for work and showed some good pace and attacking flair that was missing from the centres. He scored a try to top off a good day at the office. 7/10.
22) Louis Ludik. Came on to replace Pretorius so that Lambie could go to ten, was solid and showed up in the right spot to score that last minute try. 7/10.


  • I wouldn’t give any of them more than six. 😈

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.10.10 09:14:57 by McLovin Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 1) :

    The replacements made a huge difference in the match and I felt they needed to be rewarded for that.

    But overall, I guess the average is around 6/10

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.10.10 09:17:20 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • I think Mostert played really well.
    Rhodes,think a 7 is a bit generous.
    And I feel bad for AP because Rory didnt do him any favors with his passing game,so I dont think we should give up on him just yet although you could see the difference when lambie came on.

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.10.10 09:17:35 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • A fair score card I think for most. I would have given Kockott less. Perhaps a 3 or a 4. Way off the boil. Bisey was under a 5 as well. Our entire backline was just uninteresting.

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.10.10 09:18:22 by rugbypedia Reply

  • @Honey Badger (Comment 3) : But when Lambie shifted to 10, he was given a new 9 in McLeod. It helped. So ya, AP could be cut a slight amount of slack there.

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.10.10 09:19:59 by rugbypedia Reply

  • If anything, let’s hope answers from this game proved that Charl and Pat must start at 9 and 10.

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.10.10 09:21:54 by Baldrick Reply

  • I don’t think anybody in the front row should get more than 4 to be honest….very dissapointing from the Bok front row. I recon Patric, Craig and Eugene would have done a better job. This reminds me way to much of what happenend last year. let’s hope they were rusty and come out firing this weekend.

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.10.10 09:21:56 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 7) :

    They haven’t played in a while, so you have to take into consideration that this was a training match for the returning Boks. But I agree, I still expected more.

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.10.10 09:24:05 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Kockott and Pretoors were pathetic. Enough said.

    Dries Strauss provided the highlight of the game, knocking Duanne V out of his boots. Loved that.

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.10.10 09:24:20 by Sportbilly(Oubaas2009) Reply

  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 2) : It was a different game when the replacements came on but unfortunately the team was already on the back foot.

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.10.10 09:26:01 by lostfish Reply
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  • Rhodes . . .urm didn`t you forget the – in front of that 7?

    We lost that should set the ceiling for ratings at about 5 for all of them.

    Wonder what happened with Deon Fourie`s citing . . . :mrgreen:

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.10.10 09:26:07 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Sportbilly(Oubaas2009) (Comment 9) :

    But Duane Vermeulen got up, with no boots and cover tackled one of our wings.. Ndungane I think.. That was a classic minute of play!

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.10.10 09:27:26 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Of course the Bok situation and those guys absence was out of the hands of Plum, but the Sharks in general seem to struggle to integrate players or rotate players effectively leaving a large bunch of them ring-rusty when they are called upon – but is that surprising???

    The difference between the Bulls and the Sharks for me is that when their front-line players returned, they looked stronger, the same cannot be said from the Sharks – there seemed to simply be too many new or changed combinations on the day given who has played most of the season and it clearly upset their rythm.

    I also know Lambie is a special talent, but playing him at 15 ahead of Ludik was a mistake – either he should have played off the bench or in the 12 shirt.

    I actually feel sorry for some of these Sharks been given an ‘opportunity’ (yes it is supposed to be in inverted commas) in such a tough game away from home. Almost everything to lose and nothing to gain.

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.10.10 09:28:12 by Morné Reply
  • @Original Pierre (Comment 11) :

    The citing will only be scheduled today for in the week.

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.10.10 09:28:19 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 13) :

    I fully agree with you Morne..

    I dont know what Plum or Lambie gained from playing half the game at 15. It was silly and clearly did not work, and you have an important player in Lambie who had to play a full 80 minutes in a game where it was not necessary.

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.10.10 09:30:21 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • i`m a huge Mvovo fan, but the fact that he`s not looking for work is getting to me now. he`s got oodles of talent, cant someone just teach him to be more productive? and i saw him twice running beside a player and not tackling him. again, i`m still a huge fan, but cracks will start to show once he plays against tougher opposition.

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.10.10 09:30:49 by VanWilder Reply

  • And then we come to Botes.

    I defended him all last week against my wp buddies, only for the Sharks to have what 38% possession?! 😳

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.10.10 09:31:11 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • Rob,

    Slightly off the topic.

    Watched a little of Jean Stemmet against the Bulls. The guy has potential. Can you shed some light on him.

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.10.10 09:32:36 by dawj Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 13) : I agree. You can’t go and change a successfull gameplan 1 week before the play off’s. I hope the Sharks get this game out of their minds a return to what was working before. I hope this last weekend of experimenting doesn’t effect the Sharks too badly before this weekend’s game. Plum needs to play the established combo’s for the Bulls game.

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.10.10 09:33:13 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 12) : Even more classic was the tackle that knocked him out of his boots. Full credit to him for getting up straight away and making that tackle sans boots.

    It was Mvovo that he tackled which is even worse than Odwa because Mvovo is a V6 and Odwa is now a 1.6.

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.10.10 09:33:34 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 17) :

    I hear what you are saying, but you cannot expect one player on his own to hit every single ruck and protect every ball.

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.10.10 09:34:26 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 19) :

    Look spare a thought for the coach, it is helluva difficult to ensure you maintain momentum and keep everyone sharp and matchfit, but I do believe there was a loss in momentum for the Sharks – this week is going to be a massive week for them.

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.10.10 09:35:16 by Morné Reply
  • I think Bissie will be vital against the big Bulls pack….I just hope he had all his brainfarts this past weekend and produces his A game agaist the Bulls.

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.10.10 09:35:27 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 12) : Sure, tough bugger that. I think to keep him down you gotta knock his socks off to!

    Still hit of the day though. Especially considering the weight advantage he has.

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.10.10 09:35:44 by Sportbilly(Oubaas2009) Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 13) : Perhaps it was an acid test for Pretoors?

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.10.10 09:35:51 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 20) :

    I thought he caught Odwa.. But I might be mistaking, and that makes it even better as Mvovo has some gas..

    I like your comparison of a V6 and 1.6. Haha :mrgreen:

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.10.10 09:36:05 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • In fact, it was, and still is, my biggest criticism of Allister Coetzee, there is zero rotation policy at WP and it cost them the Super 14 and I believe it will too the Currie Cup.

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.10.10 09:36:15 by Morné Reply
  • @Original Pierre (Comment 17) : There was no support in the rucks, there was no commitment there from the Sharks and you can’t expect Botes to perform miracles on his own.

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.10.10 09:37:05 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 22) : I’m didn’t expect the Sharks to win the game to be honest and I suppose if Petoors had a blinder we would have praised the coach. At least this game would have given Plum a better indication of who to play against the Bulls

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.10.10 09:37:35 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I hope all of the people commenting here are going to send me their Team of the Week.

  • Comment 30, posted at 11.10.10 09:40:50 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 27) :

    But we dont have enough depth do we?? 🙄

  • Comment 31, posted at 11.10.10 09:41:28 by wpw Reply
  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 26) : I got rather excited because I thought nothing would stop Mvovo but full credit again to Vermeulen for getting back up to make that tackle.

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.10.10 09:41:47 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 22) : How do they get their confidence back in one week though?

    What will Plum say?
    ” Don`t worry you`re not really that bad” ?

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.10.10 09:42:00 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 31) :


    The only area where they possibly lack depth is at prop and lock.

    other than that, they have enough.

  • Comment 34, posted at 11.10.10 09:43:21 by Morné Reply
  • the andre pretoors experiment is the biggest joke EVER! How stupid did he look running on to the field chest puffed up only to play nonsense 😀

    plum takes the butthead of the week prize for that selection :mrgreen:

  • Comment 35, posted at 11.10.10 09:45:44 by Megatron Reply

  • @Original Pierre (Comment 33) :

    Role of the coach and senior players will be vital to prepare for this weekend.

    I would place massive emphasis on combinations and set pieces, with minimal contact during the week.

    Finals are a totally different beast to league games, the formula to win these are simple, so concentrate on the simple things, the basics throughout the week.

    Get the team to get these things 100% correct and build confidence in training and let them take that to the park on Saturday.

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.10.10 09:46:23 by Morné Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 31) : Could`ve given Shimmy Shimange a run!

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.10.10 09:46:34 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • 3 – Jannie du Plessis: not worth a 6!! He gave away the first 3 points and then a penalty line out from which the WP scored their first try.
    4-5 I saw more of Al than Mostert. Might be that Mostert did the grafting and Al the fringing?
    Anyhow, will rather wait to see the player stats. But Jannie’s points are not right.

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.10.10 09:51:11 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 36) : Well lineouts will be key against the Bulls. With Big Vic up front our throw in would have to be accurate.
    Hope they practise it all week.

    I`m tempted to say don`t kick out the ball but that could backfire in a big way. The way the laws are being blown at the moment if you`re pinned in your own half for long enough you will concede the penalty and they way our bok forwards looked on saturday the bulls will just drive over our line everytime.

    The pick and drive option is probably the way we should go, suck in their defense and hope like hell Kankow or Daniel can find a gap out wide.

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.10.10 09:51:48 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 39) :

    Hey if Plum has not figured this out yet let me help him.

    The Bulls are going to play like the Boks, its their strength…

    How do you beat them?

    Simple, play like the All Blacks did…

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.10.10 09:56:59 by Morné Reply
  • I think we can safely say that IF all our guys can perform at 9/10 on Saturday, we can beat the Bulls.

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.10.10 09:58:40 by Crock Reply

  • @dawj (Comment 18) : what sort of light do you want? 🙂

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.10.10 10:09:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 40) : I agree that is the way to beat them I still think we can but not with the team as it was selected for the last game
    I think we really missed Sykes Alberts and Daniel Bizzy and Beast will be 100% better for the next game and as i said on Sunday Im glad the Boks came back this game instead of the next at the end of the day it was the penalties that made the difference and the DuPlessis brothers owe us big time now!!!!

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.10.10 10:12:37 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @Fattmann (Comment 43) :

    I think there is little doubt you will see the same team.

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.10.10 10:14:29 by Morné Reply
  • SAying of course, you won’t…

  • Comment 45, posted at 11.10.10 10:14:47 by Morné Reply
  • I’ve been feeling sad for Rory for a while but after Saturday’s game, he clearly doesn’t deserves to be starting, Hoffman might even oust him if he continues like this. Harsh thing to say but I think he didn’t help our momentum one bit and is probably responsible for AP not so good day in the office. When Lambie moved to 10 (he must part with 15 at this level) there was a big difference, it also helped that Mcleod came on at 9 (these 2 boys understand the game and our game plan). Worried about Mvovo, the best thing we can do for him and us is to send him to Paul Treu for a while, he needs to work on a number of things. Yes, Mvovo is the one that was caught by Duane.
    Waiting for the stats, want to see what a couple of players did on the field on Saturday i.e. Mostert (a bit unfair since he has been out of the game for so long but with body, he should cause some serious damage). With that said, I’d like to thank Plum for giving a guy like Rhodes an opportunity to play an entire game against quality opposition, I’m sure it made him feel that he is an integral part of our plans going forwarding.

  • Comment 46, posted at 11.10.10 10:24:24 by GreatSharksays Reply

  • Possible combination for semi`s:

    Du Plessis
    Not Jannie, anyone else

    Kockett probably stayed on in CT anyway to meet with estate agents. Good luck to him.

  • Comment 47, posted at 11.10.10 10:44:11 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • Die sharks was absoluut pateties teen die wp! Bt lets move on 4 the bulls game – 15 ludik 14 peterson (if ok) 13 jacobs 12 strauss 11 mvovo 10 lambie 9 mcleod 8 kankowski 7 akberts 6 daniel 5 mostert 4 syker 3 du plessis 2 du plessis 1 mtawarira.

  • Comment 48, posted at 11.10.10 10:50:06 by Gotti Reply

  • @Gotti (Comment 48) : en wie ganni kaptein wies?

  • Comment 49, posted at 11.10.10 10:52:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • How big has Adi got! Okes got serious guns now!

  • Comment 50, posted at 11.10.10 11:03:12 by billy Reply

  • daniel vir kaptein,time 4 a new era and he can take us there.

  • Comment 51, posted at 11.10.10 11:09:36 by Gotti Reply

  • Where is Pat’s best position.. 12?

  • Comment 52, posted at 11.10.10 11:50:51 by mikey Reply

  • @mikey (Comment 52) : I like Pat as a flyhalf… have yet to see anything to convince me that he’ll be significantly better anywhere else

  • Comment 53, posted at 11.10.10 12:22:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @billy (Comment 50) : What you mean ? I am over weight ? 🙄

  • Comment 54, posted at 11.10.10 13:00:35 by Charlie Reply

  • @mikey (Comment 52) : I like Pat @ 12… He needs to get a serious coaching in his place-kicking, then I might agree with Rob on this subject..

    Geez, Charlie, u are super sensitive, ne??? Critisism could be very good, u know?? 😉

  • Comment 55, posted at 11.10.10 13:12:04 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 55) : not that I saw Billy’s remark as critisism – I think he meant 0Adi has beefed up..

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  • @Ice (Comment 55) : Auntie, mag mens nie ees ‘n vraag vra nie ?

  • Comment 57, posted at 11.10.10 13:14:16 by Charlie Reply

  • @Ice (Comment 56) : Do you suggest I need to consult a treadmill ? 😆

  • Comment 58, posted at 11.10.10 13:15:02 by Charlie Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 57) : Nou soek jy kak om vir die tannie auntie te se :mrgreen:

  • Comment 59, posted at 11.10.10 13:15:19 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 59) : 😯

  • Comment 60, posted at 11.10.10 13:17:55 by Charlie Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 57) : jy mag, maar jy klink soos ‘n auntie! Se jy ek vet, he??? He??? LOL

    Well by the looks of things, u have already consulted one! (Unlike arme Wes, that does not even know, you actually have to walk or jog while standing on it! ) 😆

    Ja Pokkel, ek gaan hom nog blixm!!

  • Comment 61, posted at 11.10.10 13:20:40 by Ice Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 59) : en vi jou ok!

  • Comment 62, posted at 11.10.10 13:23:50 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 62) : 😆

  • Comment 63, posted at 11.10.10 13:26:46 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 62) : Auntie klink net meer commin as Tannie.

  • Comment 64, posted at 11.10.10 13:27:15 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @ Robdylan, comment 42,

    What do you know about him personally and how does the current coaching regime rate him?

  • Comment 65, posted at 11.10.10 13:27:24 by dawj Reply

  • Why does wynand olivier always play his best rugby against us……we must look at that,if we can stop him from getting momentum the backline of the bulls will only be able to kick and chase 🙄

  • Comment 66, posted at 11.10.10 13:28:01 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 64) : se jy eks commin, jou klein twak?? (Nou klink ek nes Charlie!) 😆

  • Comment 67, posted at 11.10.10 13:30:20 by Ice Reply
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  • @Honey Badger (Comment 66) :

    Can’t have those words in the same sentence as Wynand. Best and Rugby that is .. 😆
    Seriously though most overrated center since Jorrie , Gr8 at taking a gap but never passes.And anyone that blow waves their hair before a match must be a bit odd.

  • Comment 68, posted at 11.10.10 13:32:01 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

  • @Ice (Comment 67) : my man is 6feet 5…

  • Comment 69, posted at 11.10.10 13:32:31 by Ice Reply
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  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 68) : That why its even more annoying,his hair

  • Comment 70, posted at 11.10.10 13:36:28 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 69) : ja en? 😉

  • Comment 71, posted at 11.10.10 13:51:36 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 64) : Auntie Stienie klink baie common…

  • Comment 72, posted at 11.10.10 13:58:26 by Charlie Reply

  • @dawj (Comment 65) : I know that he’s an awesome oke and a great talent.

    And our brilliant coaches rate him so highly that they released him from his contract without ever giving him a chance to play Currie Cup rugby.

  • Comment 73, posted at 11.10.10 14:08:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 71) : hy sal jou tik as jy lelik is met my!

  • Comment 74, posted at 11.10.10 14:15:29 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 55) : where is it written that your flyhalf has to be your primary goalkicker?

    If the Sharks are bright, they’ll bring Piet Lindeque into the senior side and let him be the goal kicker. Will solve the outside centre problem as well

  • Comment 75, posted at 11.10.10 14:16:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 75) :

    Thats a bloody good idea Rob, that boy can kick! I saw some of his kicking for the U21’s, he has a decent boot and good radar!

  • Comment 76, posted at 11.10.10 14:19:52 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 75) : nowhere, Rob, but if he is your only kicker on the field, then it does help, you know.. Besides, when did I say its written anywhere?? If he’s bound to do the kicking, he needs to be able to kick tactical as well as place-kick…not????

  • Comment 77, posted at 11.10.10 14:21:23 by Ice Reply
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  • I personally thought Michael Rhodes had a very good game. I’ve been critical of him in the past but Saturday was for me his best game in the Sharks jersey. Considering we were on the backfoot and who he was up against, he was very prominent. Odwa was another who had his best game for a number of weeks. Go back and watch the game again…look at his workrate together with his tackle count. He’s never had blistering pace but he is Mr Reliable who rarely lets you down.

    Bissie and Jannie gave away far too many penalties and looked very rusty..but will improve with game time.

  • Comment 78, posted at 11.10.10 14:34:10 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 78) : 😉 At the end of the day penalties against (4) converted into points was the difference…

  • Comment 79, posted at 11.10.10 15:04:09 by Charlie Reply

  • @Villie (Comment 78) : Maybe Bissie and Jannie should go back to farming . . . spit! 👿

  • Comment 80, posted at 11.10.10 15:29:05 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 35) : i tend to agree with u don’t like him at all his days are over 🙁

  • Comment 81, posted at 11.10.10 16:55:31 by chaz Reply

  • @Original Pierre (Comment 80) :
    I think the two of them together are just like my two kids!! Impossible to handle together. But just split the two and they are the most adorble angels (my kids I’m talking about now). Maybe the Doeps “feed” of each other and try and be mischievous and unruly (mean it lightheartedly). I would go with a Beast, Bis, V Staden front row just to split one of the “children” ::)

  • Comment 82, posted at 11.10.10 16:55:47 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

  • @billy (Comment 50) : maybe that was what he was doing on sick leave in the gym 😉

  • Comment 83, posted at 11.10.10 16:58:32 by chaz Reply

  • Charls deserves a 8 i think.

    Lambie looked much better when he was back at Number 10. That is his best position I think.

  • Comment 84, posted at 11.10.10 16:59:48 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
    The Sharks Sharkie
  • @Charlie (Comment 54) : not over weight my friend just mussels :mrgreen: 😉

  • Comment 85, posted at 11.10.10 17:01:08 by chaz Reply


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