Boks bully woeful England

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sevens on 27 Nov 2010 at 18:57
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The Boks rose to the occasion and gave their fans the win they so hoped for, but dared not expect today. Despite not playing particularly well, the visitors ran out comfortable 21-11 victors, although a late intercept try by England meant the scoreboard flattered them to an extent.

The groundwork for the win was laid by the best overall performance we’ve seen from a Springbok pack this year. The Bok forwards were, quite simply, breathtaking, with Man of the Match Bismarck du Plessis and powerful flanker Juan Smith leading the charge. The Bok 8 quite literally steam-rolled their opposition in the tight exchanges and had it not been for some utterly woeful decision-making, passing and finishing amongst the backs – with Frans Steyn the worst culprit – a first half in which the men in green and gold enjoyed 65% of the possession would have produced more points for them. As it was, the deadlock half-time score of 6-all paid little credit to the men who had enjoyed the upper hand throughout those 40 minutes, but there was more to come from the Boks.

The introduction, yet again, of Willem Alberts for the once-more-invisible Deon Stagmann 10 minutes into the half seemed to galvanise the troops and the big man’s third try in three games (this one scored out on the right wing after a superb pass from Pierre Spies) put the Boks into a 14-6 lead, after Morne Steyn had earlier succeeded with his third penalty. After a frustrating evening where he had seen little ball and enjoyed no space in which to move, Lwazi Movvo finally opened his own test try-scoring account a few minutes later, as Ruan Pienaar and Steyn spun a good scrum-ball down the blind side. Mvovo, from a standing start, ran straight through four England defenders to touch down from 20 meteres out and set the Boks up with an unassailable 21-6 lead with ten minutes to play.

A third try – Mvovo’s second -went a begging a minute or two later when CJ van der Linde butchered an overlap, popping the ball into the hands of Ben Foden, who sprinted 80 metres to touch down on the other end, when an earlier pass to his unmarked winger would have resulted in a certain score.

For the Boks, there was much to smile about, yet still much cause for concern, with the backline again wooden, one-dimensional and inaccurate on attack. As for England, well – I think they lost this game in their heads during the week, since they clearly didn’t believe they would have to do much other than pitch up, in order to claim the win. They were wrong, and South Africa have no extended their unbeaten run against the men in white to seven games.

The question on every fans’ lips, though, will be whether Peter de Villiers and his coaching team have managed to secure a stay of execution by winning three test from four on this tour, that despite the team never quite dishing up a convincing performance. Only time will tell.

For now, though, let’s all celebrate another great Bok victory over England.

England – Penalties: Toby Flood (2), Try: Ben Foden.
South Africa – Tries: Willem Alberts, Lwazi Mvovo. Conversion: Morne Steyn. Penalties: Steyn (3).


  • Good win by the Boks..

    If only they played like this in all the games.. would have been far happiers..

  • Comment 1, posted at 27.11.10 19:00:28 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • One has to wonder what else Alberts has to do to start a game?!

  • Comment 2, posted at 27.11.10 19:03:30 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Bokke!Bismark was huge

  • Comment 3, posted at 27.11.10 19:05:08 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
  • Well done BOKS knew u could pull it off :mrgreen:

  • Comment 4, posted at 27.11.10 19:09:24 by chaz Reply
  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 2) : πŸ˜† he is so good off the bench, he is going to be known as a super sub. (I hope not)

  • Comment 5, posted at 27.11.10 19:10:05 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 5) :

    He has the ability to have that impact for a full 80 minutes.. Why not at least try it..

  • Comment 6, posted at 27.11.10 19:10:50 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Well done to the boys. Good performances from Bissie! Jean, Ruan, I thought Fransie had a good game. Spies played one of his better games of the season. Juan smith, does he ever have a bad game? And go Alberts and Mvovo!

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.11.10 19:11:57 by Letgo Reply
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  • Difference today was that when the Boks did kick, they either kicked into touch or into space, not directly at the back three. As Morne has said many times, don’t kick unless there is a 75% chance your team will get the ball back. Many more of the Bok’s kicks were in this category than in past games.

    I felt the players were looking to run, but if they saw open space were not afraid to exploit it with a kick. Even with his other obvious problems, Frans did an excellent job of kicking into space, Ruan as well.

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.11.10 19:12:21 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 6) : I was being facetious. πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.11.10 19:12:56 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 9) :

    I know, But I felt the need to make the point anyway..

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.11.10 19:16:10 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 7) :

    Fransie was not so great to be honest..

  • Comment 11, posted at 27.11.10 19:16:47 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 9) : Big Vic does not need the opposition softened up first to make an impact. I just don’t think PdV can see starting a match with Big Vic and Juan, and honestly Juan has done everything to retain his position, he has been superb on this tour.

  • Comment 12, posted at 27.11.10 19:17:30 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 11) : he was much better when back at fullback.

  • Comment 13, posted at 27.11.10 19:18:48 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 13) : He is not a 13, not really fair to judge him there. He is a 12 or 15. As I said on the other thread, I would have liked to see Adi at 13 and Frans at 15 to start with.

  • Comment 14, posted at 27.11.10 19:20:15 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 13) :

    He was really below par in the first half.

    Fullback is his position. Still not as good as Zane in the second half, I thought Zane was good!

  • Comment 15, posted at 27.11.10 19:20:39 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 6) : I hope he and other players gets a chance for the Barbarians game!

  • Comment 16, posted at 27.11.10 19:20:52 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 16) : It would be nice to see the Sharks loosies get a start as a combination in the Baabaas match.

  • Comment 17, posted at 27.11.10 19:22:36 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 15) : You’re right Zane did have a good game, I just wish he made the pass to mvovo or Jean when we had some space in the first half.

  • Comment 18, posted at 27.11.10 19:23:13 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 11) : I thought he did. Big on defense and did a couple of really good things on attack. Had Spies passed to Aplon instead of trying to run over Foden, Fransie’s offload could have been our first try.

  • Comment 19, posted at 27.11.10 19:32:17 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 15) : Frans had 10 min at fullback so you can’t really compare the two.

  • Comment 20, posted at 27.11.10 19:33:15 by Letgo Reply
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  • Something tells me that if we play the Sharks team as the boks we wil be better….wonder why?

    Nice wa and lm

  • Comment 21, posted at 27.11.10 19:37:53 by Honey Badger Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 12) : Why not just try starting Juan Smith, Willem Alberts and Pierre Spies? I have this sneaking suspicion it would work. Heck, at this point I feel if Willem Alberts could kick we could probably play him in any position.

    We have a fetcher in Bissie. What exactly does Steggman do that Big Vic couldn’t?

  • Comment 22, posted at 27.11.10 19:40:10 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Honey Badger (Comment 21) : because the Sharks play better this year than the BB :mrgreen:

  • Comment 23, posted at 27.11.10 19:41:20 by chaz Reply
  • How bout this team for the Barbarians:

    15. Ruan Pienaar (Former Shark)
    14. Odwa Ndugane (Sharks)
    13. Adi Jacobs (Sharks)
    12. Frans Steyn (Former Shark)
    11. Lwazi Mvovo (Sharks)
    10. Patrick Lambie (Sharks)
    9. Charl McLeod (Sharks)
    8. Ryan Kankovski (Sharks
    7. Willem Alberts (Sharks)
    6. Keegan Daniel (Sharks)
    5. Alister Hargreaves (Sharks)
    4. Flip van der Merwe (Bulls)
    3. Jannie Du Plessis (Sharks)
    2. Bissie Du Plessis (Sharks)
    1. Beast Mtwarira (Sharks)

  • Comment 24, posted at 27.11.10 19:42:29 by Letgo Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 22) : we can say and think all we want but the Clown PDV which i still call him won’t gv us a ear i wonder why πŸ™„

  • Comment 25, posted at 27.11.10 19:42:58 by chaz Reply
  • @Letgo (Comment 24) : :mrgreen: great minds think alike :mrgreen:

  • Comment 26, posted at 27.11.10 19:43:53 by chaz Reply
  • @chaz (Comment 26) : I seriously would love to see that team run out against the Barbarians, I would love it even more if our CC Champions could just take the field like they did in the final. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 27, posted at 27.11.10 19:48:39 by Letgo Reply
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  • @chaz (Comment 26) : We just need a Shark to replace Flip. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 28, posted at 27.11.10 19:49:38 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 20) :

    Zane went off with 20 minutes to go..

    Frans looked kak in the first half, passed like he had never done it before.. and he cost is possession with two stupid drop goals..

  • Comment 29, posted at 27.11.10 19:50:46 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • 15. Willem Alberts
    14. Willem Alberts
    13. Willem Alberts
    12. Willem Alberts
    11. Willem Alberts
    10. Willem Alberts
    9. Willem Alberts
    8. Willem Alberts
    7. Willem Alberts
    6. Willem Alberts
    5. Willem Alberts
    4. Willem Alberts
    3. Willem Alberts
    2. Willem Alberts
    1. Willem Alberts

    So we’ll lose two points after each try but who cares? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 30, posted at 27.11.10 19:52:43 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 27) : we were great :mrgreen: i don’t even think the Bulls would of won it just show u if we want 2 we can now all we hv to do is win the dame S15

    @Letgo (Comment 28) : yep

  • Comment 31, posted at 27.11.10 19:54:16 by chaz Reply
  • @vanmartin (Comment 30) : oh my are u going hm with WA 😳

    its a joke πŸ˜‰
    but i just don’t think he’ll be able to take the task home in all thse no he’ll hv to get some help πŸ˜†

  • Comment 32, posted at 27.11.10 19:56:24 by chaz Reply
  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 29) : Frans moved to 12 when Jean went of with about 10 to go.

  • Comment 33, posted at 27.11.10 20:06:05 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 29) : Lets just say I don’t agree. His passing wasn’t perfect, but I thought he still had a good game, even when you take that into account.

    About the drops, we weren’t going to do much more with the ball anyway.

    Morne Steyn had a few way worse kicks than Steyns drops. Not that I love the drops, but if you look at how the backs were lining up next to him, you’ll notice that he did not have much of a choice.

  • Comment 34, posted at 27.11.10 20:12:47 by Letgo Reply
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  • Rather keep the ball than give it away with a stupid kick!

    Morne had just as bad a game as Frans. They both stop the ball in its tracks.

    I thought Adi was good, I just wish he would learn to pass.

  • Comment 35, posted at 27.11.10 20:16:33 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 35) : Adi was good…you’re bound to get a few stupid kicks when you kick that much.

    I didn’t like the kicks Frans and Morne made, I just felt that Frans was mostly good, I would prefer if he didn’t make those drops.

  • Comment 36, posted at 27.11.10 20:38:03 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 35) : @Letgo (Comment 36) : those kicks were made purely as there was nothing on and running at the time could just have caused more problems

    by taking those kicks he put the emglish back into their 22

    simple really

  • Comment 37, posted at 27.11.10 20:47:43 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 35) : sorry mate but i dont think you judge steyn fairly, but each to their own i guess

  • Comment 38, posted at 27.11.10 20:50:11 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 36) : letgo the biggest change is purely mental preperation,

    last week you could see they were not prepared metally for the match

    this week they were

    besides the fact they also kicked a bit less and more with purpose when they did

  • Comment 39, posted at 27.11.10 21:01:35 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 39) : They kicked way less. Morne Steyn still has no tactical kick. Ruan did really well with the gameplan given to him. Some of those kicks were superb. Morne did have one good ground kick.

  • Comment 40, posted at 27.11.10 21:08:19 by Letgo Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 39) : I still don’t think we’re playing the best gameplan. At times we held on to the ball and we looked really good.

    Today we kicked a little less, but still some of the kicks seemed a little pointless. If you are playing a kicking gameplan, then it’s good to execute it like we did today though.

  • Comment 41, posted at 27.11.10 21:11:03 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 40) : agreed

    i think frans covers alot of the defence where others lack or miss

    and he is not as slow as some are making him out top be

    I still dont see morne getting that line away with any messure of confidence

    not sure how they will get him to change

  • Comment 42, posted at 27.11.10 21:11:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 41) : look bro way i see it even kicking has its place in the game

    its how and when

    to use the sharks in the semi final and final , they also kicked , but it was with purpose and accurate when they did

    other then that they held onto the ball and played direct rugby , sometimes pick and drive stuff and sometimes to the wings

    and that where the boks differ , they do not vary their game , its easy to read for the most

  • Comment 43, posted at 27.11.10 21:16:12 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Frans had a good game and it got better when he moved to 12.He put in huge tackles today…Victor Matfield bungled at least two sitters of tries…perspective one is ever gone be perfect in any situation especially in such a tense test match. They will make mistakes. Glad to see Fransie take the drop goals, gained ground and the boys some rest, as well as put the poms under more pressure….Mvovos try was scored purely because the poms started focusing on trying to stop drop goal attemps.
    IMO Aplon and Kirchner could both have done a lot better,Adi was invisible after his first 3 minutes.

  • Comment 44, posted at 28.11.10 05:56:04 by Just a Fan Reply
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  • Frans was average in the extreme for the third test in a row.

  • Comment 45, posted at 28.11.10 09:30:18 by robdylan Reply
  • Team for Baabaas:

    1. Beast
    2. Bissie
    3. Jannie
    4. Bakkies
    5. Flip (Matfield seems to have a rib injury)
    6. Keegan
    7. Alberts
    8. Kanko
    9. Charl
    10. Lambie
    11. Mvovs
    12. de Villiers
    13. Adi
    14. Hougaard
    15. Aplon

  • Comment 46, posted at 28.11.10 10:07:16 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Thanx Rob, at least somebody saw the same game as me!

    He was average at best.

  • Comment 47, posted at 28.11.10 10:32:29 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) : According to one of the British hacks: `SteynΒ΄s passing was as hairy as his top lip` πŸ˜†

  • Comment 48, posted at 28.11.10 10:44:55 by rhineshark Reply
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  • IMHO there are two seriously over rated players in the Bok set-up, CJ and Spies. CJ fooked up a basic scoring opportunity and then missed quite a few penalties. What on earth has this guy got that he continuously gets chosen?

    So Spies made one or two tackles, what about the many more he missed. I’m pretty certain Kanko would either have scored or created a scoring opportunity for someone else had he been in a similar position as Spies when he butchered another try scoring opportunity.

    Sorry forgot about Stegman, 3 opportunities and not once has he shown why he should be in the team. If only Keegan or Kanko would be allowed the same opportunities……

  • Comment 49, posted at 28.11.10 11:16:17 by Bayshark Reply
  • @Bayshark (Comment 49) : You a shark supporter by any chance πŸ˜€

  • Comment 50, posted at 28.11.10 12:39:54 by Whindy Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 45) : Rob there was not too much to get excited about in the backline, all round!! Somebody need to sort out the running lines by the time the wing gets the ball or should I say “IF” they have no room to move Mvovo’s try was a good one, but it should never have happened, Shaw was very slow and the tackling was non existant, but full marks for taking the opportunity. I think he will be a lot better next year, with the confidence he will have gained on this tour!!

  • Comment 51, posted at 28.11.10 12:44:41 by Whindy Reply
  • @rhineshark (Comment 46) : JDV deserves a break. He has playedin the 3N and think every game in the CC. He was not part of the rested players. This goes for Jannie as well. With this in mind, whose going to be Captain? No Juan Smith and no JDV? Beast? Bakkies? My team For BaaBaas
    15 Aplon
    14 Odwa
    13 Adi
    12 Steyn
    11 Mvovo
    10 Lambie
    9 Hougard
    8 Kanko
    7 Smith
    6 Alberts
    5 Bakkies
    4 Flip
    3 Coenie
    2 Bismarck
    1 Beast

    CJ, Strauss, AL , Daniels, McLOed, Zane, Jantjies

  • Comment 52, posted at 28.11.10 14:25:10 by Mocho Reply
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    Keegan DANIEL bru!! πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 53, posted at 28.11.10 14:41:12 by wpw Reply
  • Well played boks! Anyone else notice England no 3 (Cole I think) doing 2 elbow drops into rucks and clearing out a guy walking away from the ruck. What a twat! 😑

  • Comment 54, posted at 28.11.10 17:27:19 by Nhumrod Reply
  • For me, I think this game was more about England’s woefulness than the Boks brilliance… we injured a couple of their key players early on, and that had a disruptive influence on them.

    To have the ball for 30 mins in the 1st half for a return of only 3 points was simply terrible!

    There’s no doubt at times we played better, but on the whole we were still rudderless?

    People are talking about Alberts being in the starting team in place of Stegman, creating a back 3 of Smith, Alberts & Spies. But remember, Burger will be back for the WC… so I think it would be better for Alberts to come in at the expense of Spies, making it Smith, Burger and Alberts. Alberts should try get as much time at 8 in the Super 15, to give him exposure for the WC… otherwise I have no doubt he’ll spend the year as a sub behind Burger.

  • Comment 55, posted at 28.11.10 20:22:47 by CS Reply
  • Well, I guess Helium Pete keeps his job. Sad day.

  • Comment 56, posted at 29.11.10 10:02:33 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 56) : πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

  • Comment 57, posted at 29.11.10 10:21:32 by Charlie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 56) :

    Yes he does …..

    “…..after Saturday’s 21-11 victory over England in London, Hoskins said SARU did not intend to replace De Villiers and his management team.

    β€œIt was good to end off the season on a high,” Hoskins told the Cape Times from London on Sunday. β€œI think it was important psychologically to get such a result before the World Cup year, especially as England were on the up and did really well to beat Australia two weeks ago. I felt that the Bok team played to their strengths and we could see why they are the world champions.”

    Hoskins was still upbeat about the Boks’ chances of success at the World Cup in New Zealand next September.

    β€œI am thankful to the coaches and the players for their efforts on this tour to the United Kingdom and Ireland,” he said. β€œIt has been a tough year for us all, but this win over England was a good marker for 2011. I am really positive about our rugby and our chances of retaining the World Cup.””

  • Comment 58, posted at 29.11.10 12:06:00 by Dive Pass Reply
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