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Lions try the ambush marketing trick


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Lions, Original Content, Super Rugby, Vodacom Cup on 16 Jan 2011 at 14:22
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If stories in today’s news are to be believed, MTN are set to further swell the Lions’ already stuffed coffers. An announcement from the union next week should confirm that the cellular giant are about to come on-board as main sponsor, to the tune of R20 million a year. That, by the way, is just a fraction more money each year than the Lions have offered Beast Mtawarira.

This all sounds peachy in theory, until we remember that one of the things that Vodacom haven’t opted to drop out of their basket of sponsorships is the headline branding of the Super Rugby tournament – nor, it would seem, of the more obviously branded Vodacom Cup. Vodacom, who I’m sure you all know are something of a competitor to MTN, still prefer for everything successful in SA Rugby to carry their brand name, hence Vodacom Super Rugby, the Vodacom Bulls, the Vodacom Tri-Nations, yet no longer the Vodacom Cheetahs. One thing that they probably didn’t bargain on when stumping out all of this money for headline sponsor status, is to see a team wearing their primary competitor’s logo doing a very effective ambush marketing job in their own competition.

This is hardly a new trick, by the way. Vodacom appear to have rugby pretty much sewn up in South Africa and MTN have been somewhat loathe to enter into the fray for that very reason. They did try it back in the early 2000s when they became headline sponsor of the Valke. Those of you with long memories will recall the farce of the team being forced to play in the Vodacom Cup wearing a big yellow question mark on their jerseys, rather than their sponsor’s logo – presumably at the insistence of the people whose name was on the trophy.

I’m going to watch developments over the next few weeks very eagerly to see exactly how much leeway the Lions and MTN are to be allowed on the much bigger stage of Super Rugby.


318 Comments

  • Vodacom, who I’m sure you all know are something of a competitor to MTN, still prefer for everything successful in SA Rugby to carry their brand name, hence Vodacom Super Rugby, the Vodacom Bulls, the Vodacom Tri-Nations, yet no longer the Vodacom Cheetahs.

    Just loved that part Rob. Hope they don’t think the lions will be succesfull!

  • Comment 1, posted at 16.01.11 14:37:19 by Ben Reply
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  • I enjoyed that little dig at our friends from the stone age…

  • Comment 2, posted at 16.01.11 14:41:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : What amount did absa pay us per year to be stadium sponsor do you know?

  • Comment 3, posted at 16.01.11 14:49:13 by Ben Reply
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  • Probably Manie’s idea! What a douche!! πŸ™„

  • Comment 4, posted at 16.01.11 14:49:59 by wpw Reply
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  • Oops, guess they didn’t think of the implications of this one.

  • Comment 5, posted at 16.01.11 15:18:17 by war1 Reply
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  • Marvellous Manie strikes again! I would love to see the ? lions taking to the field.

  • Comment 6, posted at 16.01.11 15:23:05 by war1 Reply
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  • Ambush marketing? LOL

    Vodacom S15, Invetec S15, Rebel S15 etc. different countries different sponsors, so what. This is not a world cup event, it is a competition in which private companies take part so why would anyone dictate to private companies who can and cannot be their jersey sponsor?

    That is just stone age thinking, well just look at the IPL for some motivating, companies it direct competition (Coke, Pepsi) sponsoring different teams is just silly, isn’t it, but it is happening and will happen with the Lions. Well done Lions, Cheetahs take note.

  • Comment 7, posted at 16.01.11 15:23:50 by RL Reply

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  • Hehehehe. This should become interesting!

  • Comment 8, posted at 16.01.11 15:24:33 by Crock Reply

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  • R20m for jersey sponsorship p/a
    R8m (+/-) for stadium naming rights
    Other sponsorship ?m p/a
    30-40% more income than any other union for hosting test matches at soccer city

    Lions are looking secure

  • Comment 9, posted at 16.01.11 15:30:17 by RL Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 9) : Lions RU doesn’t own FNB stadium do they?

  • Comment 10, posted at 16.01.11 15:32:28 by Ben Reply
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  • @RL (Comment 9) : until the equity partners decided their investments were loans and not donations, this is what abramovich has done with chelsea, but at least they have been relatively successful.

  • Comment 11, posted at 16.01.11 15:33:03 by war1 Reply
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  • MTN has also been involved in SA cricket also not the most succesfull product!

  • Comment 12, posted at 16.01.11 15:37:06 by Ben Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 11) : are you talking about the equity partners that bought into the Sharks company or the one that bought into the Lions?

    πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 13, posted at 16.01.11 15:40:25 by RL Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 10) : no they rent it for about a million, but if you sell twice as many tickets as the FSRU who cares.

  • Comment 14, posted at 16.01.11 15:43:25 by RL Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 14) : Why would they rent it? Isn’t SARU supposed to rent it if the boks play there?

  • Comment 15, posted at 16.01.11 15:46:10 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 15) : I will leave it to someone else to correct you. πŸ™„

  • Comment 16, posted at 16.01.11 15:53:37 by RL Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 16) : Well I don’t know that’s why I’m asking!

  • Comment 17, posted at 16.01.11 15:55:34 by Ben Reply
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  • Exactly how much money do the lions have now??
    ??

  • Comment 18, posted at 16.01.11 16:04:05 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 17) : ok as I know provincial unions pay SARU a fee to host test matches, so it is in the host unions right to play at a stadium of their choosing – and by choosing soccer city the Lions can sell more tickets than what they can at Ellis park.

  • Comment 19, posted at 16.01.11 16:04:29 by RL Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 11) : just a hypothetical situation for the lions,

  • Comment 20, posted at 16.01.11 16:04:39 by war1 Reply
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  • How many “fight hunger “projects could mtn not have funded with that kinda money?..

  • Comment 21, posted at 16.01.11 16:06:04 by bergshark Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 19) : Okay thanks it makes sense.

  • Comment 22, posted at 16.01.11 16:06:46 by Ben Reply
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  • Wonder if gumede and some of the guys @ mtn aren’t friends?

  • Comment 23, posted at 16.01.11 16:09:40 by bergshark Reply

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  • Cell C Cheetahs anyone? πŸ˜›

  • Comment 24, posted at 16.01.11 16:10:04 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 24) : could be fitting! They could use trevor noah to represent their joke of a rugby team! πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 25, posted at 16.01.11 16:20:18 by Ben Reply
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  • @RL (Comment 19) :

    You are possibly living in the past. πŸ˜›

    SARU are trying to ensure that THEY host the test matches and NOT the unions.

    http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2010/08/30/saru-plan-to-take-over-hosting-of-tests/

  • Comment 26, posted at 16.01.11 16:34:45 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 9) :
    Sounds great. How many big name signings, leave alone trophies, though?

    I reckon that what’s happening at the Lions could be good for SA rugby as a whole, but I’d try to keep some perspective if I were you.

  • Comment 27, posted at 16.01.11 18:14:19 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Any news on the warmup games coming up in CT will it be shown on supersport? I hope so

  • Comment 28, posted at 16.01.11 18:22:33 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 28) : sharks vs stormers is on tv others aren’t.

    So the lions are offering beast nearly 20 mil a year. Any idea what the Sharks were paying him before his contract got increased?

  • Comment 29, posted at 16.01.11 18:33:34 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 29) :

    Obviously Supersport know that showing anything with the lions involved will attract less of an audience than Ellispark does. πŸ˜›

  • Comment 30, posted at 16.01.11 19:02:11 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 9) :

    30-40% more income?

    Why is that, because of the greater seating capacity?
    But then they have to PAY the owners of the stadium for it’s use, whereas at Ellis they don’t have to pay to use it.

  • Comment 31, posted at 16.01.11 19:04:23 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 16) : kind of like saying “I hope you’re wrong, but I have no evidence to prove that you are”

  • Comment 32, posted at 16.01.11 19:05:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 29) : that bit was a joke. Beast was allegedly offered R20m over 5 years.

  • Comment 33, posted at 16.01.11 19:06:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 32) : πŸ™‚

  • Comment 34, posted at 16.01.11 19:11:19 by Ben Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 32) : so the way I thaught it works was correct? SARU rents the stadium themselves?

  • Comment 35, posted at 16.01.11 19:12:59 by Ben Reply
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  • AMBUSH MARKETING, an example.

    Now let’s say that FNB decides buy the naming rights for the Sharks stadium for R20m, all well, until Mr R. decides to go down to FNB stadium with his 2009 Sharks jersey that he paid R650-00 buck for at Mr Price and the stadium security guard tells him that he cannot enter the stadium with that jersey because it has ABSA branding on the sleeve …bummer!

  • Comment 36, posted at 16.01.11 19:17:00 by RL Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 35) :

    No I don’t think so. I think the way it currently works is that the union hosts the test and have to pay X amount to SARU to host it.

    I presume they can choose where they want to host it provided the stadium adheres to the required criteria to host a test match.

    but that could change.
    http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2010/08/30/saru-plan-to-take-over-hosting-of-tests/

  • Comment 37, posted at 16.01.11 19:17:07 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 35) : No not yet and not until SARU changes their constitution – read this http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2010/08/30/saru-plan-to-take-over-hosting-of-tests/

  • Comment 38, posted at 16.01.11 19:18:57 by RL Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 36) :

    HUH?

    Has ANYONE ever stopped someone from wearing certain branded clothing at any rugby game?

    So in your analogy you won’t be able to play ABSA Currie cup matches at any FNB stadiums?

    What time did you start braaing this afternoon? did you start drinking before or afterwards?

  • Comment 39, posted at 16.01.11 19:20:56 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • Oubaas is on top form today πŸ™‚

  • Comment 40, posted at 16.01.11 19:25:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • β€œAmbush marketing can be defined as a marketing strategy wherein the advertisers associate themselves with, and therefore capitalize on, a particular event without paying any sponsorship fee,” definition from Wikipedia.

    Ok so now I am a bit confused, the Lions are now guilty of Ambush Marketing – but if the advertiser (MTN) is paying for adverting space then how the hell can it be Ambush Marketing?

    @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 39) : it may happen … you never know the T&C’s for buying a ticket to matches with all of this ambush marketing going on. πŸ˜€

  • Comment 41, posted at 16.01.11 19:27:30 by RL Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 41) :

    Seems it must have been before. πŸ˜›

    Don’t believe EVERYTHING you read on Wikipedia.

    let me add this word for you and see if it clarifies the Wiki def.

    β€œAmbush marketing can be defined as a marketing strategy wherein the advertisers associate themselves with, and therefore capitalize on, a particular event without paying any sponsorship fee, to the event/tournament sponsor”

  • Comment 42, posted at 16.01.11 19:30:50 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 37) : @RL (Comment 38) : Have so much to learn.

  • Comment 43, posted at 16.01.11 19:31:03 by Ben Reply
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  • In Natal we got a few big companies. Rainbow, Unilever and Tongaat Hullet. I’m sure we can maak n plan. What about East Coast Radio? Publicity will be tops.

  • Comment 44, posted at 16.01.11 19:31:48 by Mocho Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 39) : I am just having a go at the article written – and during the FIFA world cup I was forced to drink pee, BUD!

    And if anyone tried to enter the stadium with their 1999 Castle Larger branded jersey they would have gad it confiscated.

  • Comment 45, posted at 16.01.11 19:33:31 by RL Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 43) : ❓

  • Comment 46, posted at 16.01.11 19:34:26 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 46) : Meaning I have so much to learn!

  • Comment 47, posted at 16.01.11 19:36:00 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 47) : πŸ˜† Oh okay. I thought you meant us. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 48, posted at 16.01.11 19:38:03 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 48) : Haha no sorry meant to put an I there.

  • Comment 49, posted at 16.01.11 19:39:52 by Ben Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 44) :
    I don’t mean this as in insult, but that is the Cheetahs’ mindset.

    There is NO REASON why a sponsor has to be local. The Super Rugby comp is international and you will get international exposure.

  • Comment 50, posted at 16.01.11 19:40:08 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 50) : so what are your thoughts on this article that was written? I think that it is utter crap!

    Will the Cheetahs be denied a sponsorship from 8ta or Cell C just because Vodacom is a tournament sponsor?

  • Comment 51, posted at 16.01.11 19:45:57 by RL Reply

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  • When is argentina joining the tri nations is it next year? And will that be for sure?

  • Comment 52, posted at 16.01.11 19:47:31 by Ben Reply
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  • @mocho: ecr and the natal mercury are media sponsors of the sharks

  • Comment 53, posted at 16.01.11 19:50:11 by bergshark Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 51) :

    I think the article is cool.

    It all depends on whether Lions have the balls to stand up to SARU and VC.

    If the Valke had been a bigger team with more clout they would not have had to play with “?” on their shirts.

    The Super rugby comp is an international comp, not a domestic comp. IMO, the worst case scenario would be the Lions having to drop the MTN logo for local games.

    It IS a kind of ambush marketing by MTN in an attempt to break into a market that has seen VC have the monopoly for a long time.

  • Comment 54, posted at 16.01.11 19:51:22 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 24) : More like 8-ta Cheetahs.

  • Comment 55, posted at 16.01.11 19:55:50 by klempie Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 52) : 2012

    it is all but a certainty with some conditions attached.

    http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2009/09/15/argies-to-join-3n/

    Expect to see more Argentinians in the Super Rugby comp.
    Maybe a lot in the Kings team?

  • Comment 56, posted at 16.01.11 19:57:23 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 39) : Nice retort Oubaas! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 57, posted at 16.01.11 19:59:19 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : Agree. 😎

  • Comment 58, posted at 16.01.11 19:59:50 by klempie Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 41) : Ok so now I am a bit confused, the Lions are now guilty of Ambush Marketing – but if the advertiser (MTN) is paying for adverting space then how the hell can it be Ambush Marketing?

    Jislaaik but you can be dof. If a cost is incurred in the advertising (e.g. printing, distribution, etc), then by your definition, ANY advertising is ambush advertising. Are you part of Lions management by any chance? πŸ˜•

  • Comment 59, posted at 16.01.11 20:03:12 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 54) : I would like to really read the guidelines around sponsorship for Super Rugby.

    Another silly example would be if the REDS get Dingo Blue, Virgin or Telstra as a sponsor for their team jersey. Now 51% Vodafone (a competitor of the RED sponsor) will say to 49% Vodacom that the REDS must wear a blue circle on their jersey while playing in SA since Vodacom is a sponsor on SA soil.

    This just gets messy so until someone (hint Robdylan)can provide solid proof that having MTN as a sponsor is like ‘Ambush marketing’ I would say that the Lions are on board doing things right.

  • Comment 60, posted at 16.01.11 20:03:12 by RL Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 56) : So why don’t they just create 3 clubs for super rugby in argentina and divide the players between those clubs?

  • Comment 61, posted at 16.01.11 20:03:46 by Ben Reply
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  • @RL (Comment 45) : Are you actually trying to compare the money of sponsorship rights of the FIFA World Cup to Super Rugby? πŸ˜•

  • Comment 62, posted at 16.01.11 20:05:48 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 50) : All thrEe companies I stated are international so to speak. They all export. They are also the three biggest national companies in the relevant industries, with their head offices all situated in Natal. Surely getting a massive sponsor from them will do us good in the long term. Think 3years from now. The lions are going to come picking players from the shark cage as easy as farm workers pick apples. These mulinatinal companies from Natal could do us wonders.

  • Comment 63, posted at 16.01.11 20:05:55 by Mocho Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 51) : Can I just ask you something? If you think the articles are crap why the hell do you waste your time on reading them?

  • Comment 64, posted at 16.01.11 20:07:14 by Ben Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 63) : Think 3years from now.

    Why? Cos Gumede will still have money to buy players due to his dodgy government tenders? 😐

  • Comment 65, posted at 16.01.11 20:09:17 by klempie Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 60) :

    I’m off to bed but I’ll leave you with this thought.

    If you have a competition sponsored by a certain company and it’s opposition get’s in on the exposure of that tournament by sponsoring a team in the tournament, thus spending millions less than the title sponsor, then I would call it ambush marketing.

    Paddy Power / RWC 2007 is a classic example.

    An interesting situation will be having both the MTN and VC logos on the lions kit. πŸ˜›

    Night.

  • Comment 66, posted at 16.01.11 20:09:25 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 64) : it is called blogging mate, I am allowed to πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 67, posted at 16.01.11 20:10:04 by RL Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 60) : Another silly example would be if the REDS get Dingo Blue, Virgin or Telstra as a sponsor for their team jersey. Now 51% Vodafone (a competitor of the RED sponsor) will say to 49% Vodacom that the REDS must wear a blue circle on their jersey while playing in SA since Vodacom is a sponsor on SA soil.

    You’re right. It’s a silly example.

  • Comment 68, posted at 16.01.11 20:11:28 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 68) : πŸ˜›

  • Comment 69, posted at 16.01.11 20:12:23 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 67) : you’re allowed to read it but is it really neccesary to critisize the writer like that?

  • Comment 70, posted at 16.01.11 20:13:11 by Ben Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 62) :Do you know the guidelines around S15 sponsorship and branding – if so please enlighten me. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 71, posted at 16.01.11 20:14:03 by RL Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 70) : He doesn’t mind constructive feedback.

    Anyway time to leave before I get ambushed LOL.

    Nice chatting guys, cheers.

  • Comment 72, posted at 16.01.11 20:16:24 by RL Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 72) : Yeah sure you can say you don’t agree with something you don’t have to say its crap, that’s just rude dude! Most of us on this site are sharks supporters we were raised with manners! πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 73, posted at 16.01.11 20:19:16 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 70) : it’s ok, bud. I have been doing this long enough to have developed a pretty think skin πŸ™‚

  • Comment 74, posted at 16.01.11 20:19:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @RL (Comment 72) : you’re right… I am not afraid of feedback.

    Anyway, my understanding has moved on since I wrote this earlier today. It seems that the Lions will be allowed to play with an MTN logo on their shirts, but will not be allowed to have any MTN branding on the field or the first-tier advertising boards at their stadium.

    The fact that restrictions had to be imposed prove that I was right, for the most part.

    I’m just surprised that the Lions actually went and did their homework upfront this time, rather than having to find out the hard way afterwards. Also surprised that MTN would pour so much money into a sponsorship deal that came with restrictions…

  • Comment 75, posted at 16.01.11 20:23:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 74) : Just defending the family’s honour! πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 76, posted at 16.01.11 20:23:26 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 76) : I appreciate it

  • Comment 77, posted at 16.01.11 20:26:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 74) : You’re welcome! 😎

  • Comment 78, posted at 16.01.11 20:41:25 by klempie Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 21) : Hey Lions are hungry as well . .. hungry for success. :mrgreen:

    As long as this doesn`t mean we`re gonna lose Beast I`m happy for them.

    Maybe they can make Guthro an offer now? hehehe

  • Comment 79, posted at 16.01.11 20:44:07 by Original Champion Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 75) :
    Ahhhhh. So THAT’S how one gets past moderation….

  • Comment 80, posted at 16.01.11 20:44:07 by klempie Reply

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  • Crap. Strikethrough tags don’t work! πŸ‘Ώ

  • Comment 81, posted at 16.01.11 20:45:50 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 81) : HA!! Edited. 😎

  • Comment 82, posted at 16.01.11 20:46:09 by klempie Reply

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  • I recently read that Mr Price has been growing for the past fews, and even achieved higher growth during the recession. As Michael Naiker would say “I like a piece of that action”

  • Comment 83, posted at 16.01.11 20:50:38 by Mocho Reply

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  • Klempie, don’t get any ideas…

  • Comment 84, posted at 16.01.11 21:13:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 83) : Easy to believe that they would grow in the recession!

  • Comment 85, posted at 16.01.11 21:30:30 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 85) : Mr Price is such an awesome Sponsor. They can be strong in Volatile markets, the Sharks brand enables them to market their brand better and in return we get funding. I predict Mr Price will be a sponsor for the Sharks for a very long time.

  • Comment 86, posted at 16.01.11 21:46:29 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 86) : Yeah agree Mr Price has been a great sponsor of the sharks. The CEO is a big sharks fan an lives in the midlands

  • Comment 87, posted at 17.01.11 00:16:52 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 75) : That is a hell of allot of money to have restrictions attached to it!

  • Comment 88, posted at 17.01.11 07:58:57 by Ben Reply
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  • i seriously don’t see the problem here. i think it is about time other cellphone companies started getting involved in rugby. it will keep vodacom on its toes. it also will bring more money into rugby, even if it is for another team. south african soccer has had mtn and vodacom battling it out for years without a problem. other banks should start challenging absa next. and hopefully one day soon other tv networks will challenge supersport. the english rugby premiership has competitors sponsoring different teams, why can’t sa. in a way i hope the lions do well so that mtn might feel the need to put more money into rugby.

  • Comment 89, posted at 17.01.11 08:00:23 by try time Reply

     
  • @Ben (Comment 88) : not really considering everytime the lions are mentioned they must be called the mtn lions. that is hundreds of times a week. also supporters will advertise mtn everytime they wear a lions jersey. in marketing terms this is a good investment, especially with the way the super 15 is set up with more local derbies.

  • Comment 90, posted at 17.01.11 08:05:03 by try time Reply

     
  • @try time (Comment 89) : Its not a problem for say that vodacom sponsors the bulls and mtn sponsors the lions the problem is that vodacom sponsors the super 15 and the lions are playing in the super 15

  • Comment 91, posted at 17.01.11 08:07:09 by Ben Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 89) : Howzit TT. Happy new year mate!

  • Comment 92, posted at 17.01.11 08:12:55 by Pokkel Reply
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  • actually all this anti lion sentiment is actually getting silly now, rather than it being looked at in a realistic light. rugby is a business. the lions have been on the the shit end of the wooden spoon for a while now. some drastic changes had to be made to bring in results and fans. they are doing everything right so far. they aren’t doing anything the sharks wouldn’t do had they been in the same position. it is actually starting to sound like petty jealousy. lets look at the positives rather. a stronger lions team brings more players into the top pool of bok talent. the more players worthy of a bok jersey we have in this country can only be good for everyone. hopefully cheetahs can sort their act out. also a stronger lions means bulls stormers and sharks have to start looking after their players better as their is one less team to steal players from.

  • Comment 93, posted at 17.01.11 08:18:17 by try time Reply

     
  • @Ben (Comment 91) : heineken sponsors the european league and teams have guinness on their jerseys. in soccer vodacom and mtn sponsor comps and both have their names on teams jerseys. it is healthy competition.

  • Comment 94, posted at 17.01.11 08:20:29 by try time Reply

     
  • @Pokkel (Comment 92) : howzit pokkel. happy new year to you to. i’ve been around here, but i have been biting my tongue, but today i thought enough is enough. lol.

  • Comment 95, posted at 17.01.11 08:21:42 by try time Reply

     
  • @try time (Comment 93) : True what you say about the lions I have no problem with them they are my 2nd team.

  • Comment 96, posted at 17.01.11 08:24:13 by Ben Reply
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  • I also prefer to stay away from all the speculation and ‘politics’…I just want the rugby to start and without sounding arrogant I think the Sharks are in a good place this year and I’ll be very disappointed if we don’t at least get into the play-offs!

  • Comment 97, posted at 17.01.11 08:25:13 by Pokkel Reply
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  • maybe we can have the cell c cheetahs. lekker illiteration there.

  • Comment 98, posted at 17.01.11 08:26:29 by try time Reply

     
  • @Ben (Comment 96) : i am with you here. it isn’t as if the sharks haven’t gone through some poor times. it is poor sport kicking a man thats down. although we are all guilty of it, myself included.

  • Comment 99, posted at 17.01.11 08:28:35 by try time Reply

     
  • @Pokkel (Comment 97) : true. we have finally moved on from the petty politics of the naughties, lets look at the resurgent beast that is bok rugby.

  • Comment 100, posted at 17.01.11 08:29:57 by try time Reply

     
  • @try time (Comment 99) : Yeah I think the lions have been down in the dumps for long enough now although I think its gonna take them 3 years or so to build a team that can challenge for titles! On the article though its healthy to have competition but vodacom has something to say read comment 75.

  • Comment 101, posted at 17.01.11 08:33:29 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 73) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 102, posted at 17.01.11 08:37:59 by chaz Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 102) : Haha πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 103, posted at 17.01.11 08:41:13 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 101) : no doubt they do. they have been a monopoly in rugby for years now. but last year showed that vodacom needs to be challenged. they threatened to pull all sponsorships of teams out. now no-one should jeopardise a sport like that. but vodacom has a right as competition sponsors to limit the competitors branding at rugby grounds as they do in a way pay for the field. but as i said mtn still gets a good deal. 20 million for exposure for 5 months is good money spent. lions have to be called mtn lions. what will be interesting though is how much vodacom controls supersport by it putting pressure on it to feature less of the lions.

  • Comment 104, posted at 17.01.11 08:42:39 by try time Reply

     
  • @try time (Comment 104) : So just trying to say its not just a blattend attack at the lions from the sharks its actually vodacom that will complain. But yes nothing wrong with the lions playing with mtn on their jerseys.

  • Comment 105, posted at 17.01.11 08:48:36 by Ben Reply
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  • eish reading all these comments i think for the first time 😳

    and the fighting is still on between the Lions and the Sharks πŸ‘Ώ

    its also good to have the Lions up in the comp and agree they have been like to me rock bottem for long know 😳
    but the Sharks are up and ready to take all that comes their way

    i must think real hard i’ve got an MTN contract and the Lions are my well let me put it this way not my favourite club at the moment at all now the MTN thing oh my πŸ™„

    :mrgreen: BLACK AND WHITE IS ALL THAT MATTERS
    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 106, posted at 17.01.11 08:53:16 by chaz Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 106) : I have an bank account at absa and they dropped their sharks sponsorship! Should I close my bank account? πŸ™‚ we don’t have to say anything to the lions or any other team’s supporter our team will do the talking for us!

  • Comment 107, posted at 17.01.11 08:57:33 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 105) : the sharks aren’t complaining. i haven’t seen them comment at all. but it is fair for vodacom to ask for some respect. as absa should stop nedbank advertising on field during the currie cup. it is fair.

  • Comment 108, posted at 17.01.11 08:59:40 by try time Reply

     
  • @Ben (Comment 107) : know i guess not πŸ˜‰

    and the talking part you are correct i’m not going to get in with this Lion part again it just gets me into Big [email protected] 😳

    the team will do all the talking for us on the field :mrgreen: πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 109, posted at 17.01.11 09:03:34 by chaz Reply

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  • So tickets for the Neo Africa series should be on sale from today according to Newlands . .. .

    Could someone tell Computicket?! πŸ‘Ώ

  • Comment 110, posted at 17.01.11 09:03:41 by Original Champion Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 108) : Yeah but a shark wrote the article so I’m just saying its not a blattend attack against the lions. Its merely pointing out the facts for us.

  • Comment 111, posted at 17.01.11 09:04:02 by Ben Reply
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  • What i don’t understand is they are allowed to have MTN on the jerseys but not anywhere on the field etc

    i would think they will want to have the MTN everywhere they can or want to a sponser is a sponser

  • Comment 112, posted at 17.01.11 09:06:20 by chaz Reply

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  • @Original Champion (Comment 110) : πŸ™

    give them time its monday morning and it is still earlly πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 113, posted at 17.01.11 09:07:45 by chaz Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 112) : Its a bummer hey you pay all that money and you don’t get maximum exposure! But then again I can understand it from vodacom’s part.

  • Comment 114, posted at 17.01.11 09:12:50 by Ben Reply
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  • I know it`s Cape Town and we are a bit chilled down here . .. but rugby is rugby . .. no time to mess around!

  • Comment 115, posted at 17.01.11 09:13:13 by Original Champion Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 111) : a shark fan. rob doesn’t have any caps as far as i know. lol
    @chaz (Comment 112) : if you look at all rugby games the fields advertising is standard.

  • Comment 116, posted at 17.01.11 09:14:08 by try time Reply

     
  • Mr price has never been on the sharks field. but on the players jersey. same rules apply.

  • Comment 117, posted at 17.01.11 09:15:37 by try time Reply

     
  • @try time (Comment 116) : Haha you know that what I meant! A sharks fan…

  • Comment 118, posted at 17.01.11 09:16:07 by Ben Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 117) : Are you sure about that? I could swore I’ve seen some mr price advertising boards at the ground but I could be wrong.

  • Comment 119, posted at 17.01.11 09:18:34 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 119) : yes on boards but not on the field. but as mr price isn’t a direct competitor to vodacom the rules are less strict, so you can get away with a little bit more.

  • Comment 120, posted at 17.01.11 09:23:25 by try time Reply

     
  • @try time (Comment 120) : Oh is that what you meant!

  • Comment 121, posted at 17.01.11 09:27:29 by Ben Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 75) : So I was right and you were wrong – thanks for actually doing some research and correcting yourself there – in summary by having MTN as a team sponsor does NOT mean ambush marketing.

    Perhaps next time before jumping in with both feet do the research πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 122, posted at 17.01.11 09:31:47 by RL Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 122) : Here we go again! πŸ™‚

  • Comment 123, posted at 17.01.11 09:44:00 by Ben Reply
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  • @RL (Comment 122) : Tell me your strategy for the Bulls match?

    I take it Mitchell watched the CC semi final about 1000 times by now?

  • Comment 124, posted at 17.01.11 09:45:05 by Original Champion Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 119) : MR Price is allowed to advertise on the LED boards running on the sidelines. Mr Price pays the Shaks in the region of R10-15 Million rand p/a for that privilege.

    MTN is not allowed to advertise on the LED boards, they the Lions R20-30 Million p/a for jersey exposure only and they are happy with this.

    So it would seem that Mr Price got the better of the Sharks and the Lions got the better of MTN.

  • Comment 125, posted at 17.01.11 09:48:17 by RL Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 123) : I read the article again and am still intrigued by the 2nd and 3rd paragraph :mrgreen:

  • Comment 126, posted at 17.01.11 09:50:05 by RL Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 122) :

    It might not count as ambush marketing, but it still fits in nicely with the underhanded way the Lions and their shareholders do business.

    Perfect business ethic right there!

  • Comment 127, posted at 17.01.11 09:50:13 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 127) : well this deal with MTN is not yet official but if it is then it is 100% legal (underhanded or not).

  • Comment 128, posted at 17.01.11 09:54:11 by RL Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 128) :

    Legal and legal with some underhand (read scaley) are two very different things..

  • Comment 129, posted at 17.01.11 09:55:15 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @RL (Comment 125) : mr price isn’t a direct competitor to vodacom or absa so therefore is able to appear on the led boards if they want. as mtn will be able to advertise on those boards during the currie cup. i agree mr price is on a good wicket, but then again they do dig deeper when required to. for instance they helped the sharks get john smit back.

  • Comment 130, posted at 17.01.11 09:57:27 by try time Reply

     
  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 129) :

    Ethically they are not doing themselves any favours..

    And this type of thing was exactly what the public was anticipating when Gumede got involved.

    It sure as hell did not take long to give them what they want..

  • Comment 131, posted at 17.01.11 09:58:06 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 127) : i am still trying to see where underhanded deals have been done. since when is signing up players and sponsors underhanded?

  • Comment 132, posted at 17.01.11 10:00:08 by try time Reply

     
  • @RL (Comment 125) :

    I do tend to agree with your cooment regarding MTN getting a worse deal than Mr Price does.

    But surely MTN go into this knowing all too well what they are getting out the deal.

  • Comment 133, posted at 17.01.11 10:00:13 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • unless you are talking about lawyers, then I agree everything they do is underhanded. but the sharks are as guilty as the next.

  • Comment 134, posted at 17.01.11 10:01:46 by try time Reply

     
  • @Ben (Comment 123) : πŸ™‚

    again when is this going to end it looks like to me it will never end until the lions win sth but then the Sharks are not going to let that happen :mrgreen:

  • Comment 135, posted at 17.01.11 10:02:18 by chaz Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 132) :

    There is nothing wrong with signing players and sponsrs, I agree.

    As RL said, all is legal.

    But how ethicaly correct is it to approach a player who has just signed a three year contract?

  • Comment 136, posted at 17.01.11 10:02:45 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @RL (Comment 126) : Let’s just say money and sponsorhips doesn’t build a team let’s just wait and see what happens.

  • Comment 137, posted at 17.01.11 10:02:54 by Ben Reply
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  • @RL (Comment 125) : so we are equals then πŸ™‚

    some you get and some you don’t

  • Comment 138, posted at 17.01.11 10:03:42 by chaz Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 134) : can i ask you sth what team do you support πŸ™‚

    just hope its the Sharks :mrgreen:

  • Comment 139, posted at 17.01.11 10:07:36 by chaz Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 136) : sharks did it with three players last year. you do what you need to get the best possible team. it sometimes isn’t in the spirit of the game, but losing does far more damage.

  • Comment 140, posted at 17.01.11 10:07:36 by try time Reply

     
  • @chaz (Comment 139) : i am a sharks supporter. but i believe in the spirit of the sharks to try and be fair.

  • Comment 141, posted at 17.01.11 10:08:40 by try time Reply

     
  • @try time (Comment 134) : This is why I don’t get involved with these types of threads…..

  • Comment 142, posted at 17.01.11 10:09:23 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 140) :

    Look, Im not arguing that, not in the least.

    Ethically, the Sharks were the bad guys last year when all those Lions players were signed.

    The point I was trying to make, was that Gumede came in with a reputation, and that reputation did not take long to come through in how the Lions are doing things.

  • Comment 143, posted at 17.01.11 10:10:29 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • now if i was a bulls supporter, i would be lambasting the lions. and the cheetahs, actually everyone for being cheats. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 144, posted at 17.01.11 10:10:41 by try time Reply

     
  • @Ben (Comment 137) : your are right, but it will be easier to build a team and a winning brand with money and sponsorship in 2011 than it was in 2010. Let’s wait and see what happens.

  • Comment 145, posted at 17.01.11 10:11:25 by RL Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 136) : Just out of curiosity, from an ethics point of view what is your take on the Sharks attempts to acquire the services of Lionel Mapoe?
    I’ve always just assumed the Sharks were in the wrong.

  • Comment 146, posted at 17.01.11 10:11:29 by beet Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 140) : true but then why go on about a player that already has signed a 3 year contract why can’t they just let him be πŸ™‚

  • Comment 147, posted at 17.01.11 10:11:38 by chaz Reply

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  • @RL (Comment 145) : your on my Lions friend and the Sharks are waiting :mrgreen:

  • Comment 148, posted at 17.01.11 10:12:52 by chaz Reply

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  • i don’t understand why it is an issue. What do vodacom say to an austrailian or new zeland franchise if they are approached by one of their mobile networks to sponsor say the melbourne rebels. no one makes a noise about the new stormers and dhl partnership. would vodacom have held onto the cheethas if cellc or mtn were bidding for their sponsorship rights? surely the franchises have some form of autonomy or are they “owned” by vodacom

  • Comment 149, posted at 17.01.11 10:13:39 by prgdad Reply

     
  • @beet (Comment 146) :

    Ethically, the Sharks were in the wrong to try sign a player, and get him to train with you while still under contract at the Cheetahs.

    That said, the Cheetahs were in their own right ethically wrng in the way the player was treated. But that had nothing to do with the Sharks.

  • Comment 150, posted at 17.01.11 10:13:56 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 143) : i don’t care where the lions got their money, that is on their conscience. they mustn’t bring the game into disrepute and so far they haven’t done anything other teams haven’t done. i could question the sharks money, by how many of their sponsors clothes were made in sweat shops in china.or the bulls and stormers sponsors rip the arse out of the poor in sa with exhorbatent fees. a union has to get money to survive, how they run their business is all we can really comment on. their sponsors must answer for themselves.

  • Comment 151, posted at 17.01.11 10:15:55 by try time Reply

     
  • @RL (Comment 145) : Still grumpy about the ludik and alberts case are we?

  • Comment 152, posted at 17.01.11 10:17:13 by Ben Reply
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  • time for a new thread, I think

  • Comment 153, posted at 17.01.11 10:17:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 153) :

    thanks :mrgreen:

  • Comment 154, posted at 17.01.11 10:18:48 by chaz Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 151) :

    Im not saying only the Lions are wrong here..

    Again, my point was about the Lions and their new owner.

    how they run their business is all we can really comment on

    That is exactly what I did, comment on how they are doing their business. That is all.

  • Comment 155, posted at 17.01.11 10:19:13 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 152) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 156, posted at 17.01.11 10:19:45 by chaz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 153) : let’s find some dirt on the bulls for a bit! πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 157, posted at 17.01.11 10:20:21 by Ben Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 150) : Good to read that you’re reasonably minded guy Richard. πŸ™‚ I don’t think the Sharks or Sharks fans can use the moral/ethical high ground argument these days esp. with Frikkie Erasmus onboard.

  • Comment 158, posted at 17.01.11 10:22:38 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 158) :

    My comment seems to have been taken as an attack on the Lions, where it was meant as a tongue in cheek observation.

    All rugby unions at some point take the unethical approach. Thats professional sport for you.

  • Comment 159, posted at 17.01.11 10:25:16 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Has anyone told roman abramovich that the sharks are a good investment oppurtunity or maybe get one of those billionaires from dubai!

  • Comment 160, posted at 17.01.11 10:28:51 by Ben Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 159) : i agree with you. i just wanted to point out that recent comments on sharksworld towards the lions have not been in the spirit of the game. and it is good to make sure your own yard is clean before moaning at your neighbour.

  • Comment 161, posted at 17.01.11 10:29:03 by try time Reply

     
  • @Ben (Comment 160) : gee i’ve been asking that one for a while got any contacts :mrgreen:

  • Comment 162, posted at 17.01.11 10:31:44 by chaz Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 161) : I agree….and it can back to bite us(SW) in a big way somewhere down the line.

  • Comment 163, posted at 17.01.11 10:34:02 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I actually think the Bulls are going about things the right way this year….you barely hear any news from the Bulls camp this year and that is the way I would have liked the Sharks to go about things.

  • Comment 164, posted at 17.01.11 10:35:58 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 163) : that is my thinking. people are quick to knock keo’s site and bulls supporters etc, but don’t realise they are doing the exact thing they are bitching about.

  • Comment 165, posted at 17.01.11 10:38:09 by try time Reply

     
  • @Pokkel (Comment 164) : the sharks are doing the same. have you seen their website? nothing majorly informative. keeping your cards close to your chest is a good policy.

  • Comment 166, posted at 17.01.11 10:39:40 by try time Reply

     
  • @try time (Comment 161) : @Pokkel (Comment 163) :

    All so true in a big why which we don’t like at all

  • Comment 167, posted at 17.01.11 10:40:34 by chaz Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 166) : You right but there seems to be a lot written about the Sharks this year. I suppose as CC champ there will be more focus on the Sharks.

  • Comment 168, posted at 17.01.11 10:45:40 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 166) : so what must the fans do in the interim?

  • Comment 169, posted at 17.01.11 10:47:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 168) : boots and all hasn’t started yet. that is why you haven’t heard anything about the bulls. also the supersport website has been focused on the cricket and hasn’t had a chance to report on its pet favourite.

  • Comment 170, posted at 17.01.11 10:48:43 by try time Reply

     
  • @robdylan (Comment 169) : report on facts objectively. words like ambush marketing aren’t positive. by all means knock the opposition, but don’t get vindictive.

  • Comment 171, posted at 17.01.11 10:51:19 by try time Reply

     
  • i see bj muller brad and ruan all played over the weekend. why not report on how they faired.

  • Comment 172, posted at 17.01.11 10:54:27 by try time Reply

     
  • @try time (Comment 171) : I reckon over 3 years I’ve managed to do a pretty good job of figuring out what people want to read here, mate. If you want to read feelgood pieces about how great the Lions are, you can do so on any number of other websites or virtually any mainstream newspaper you can lay your hands on.

  • Comment 173, posted at 17.01.11 10:57:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 172) : Feel free to report so! πŸ™‚

  • Comment 174, posted at 17.01.11 10:57:59 by Ben Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 171) : The thread got 173 comments so far so I suppose sensationalism sells πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 175, posted at 17.01.11 10:58:40 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 171) : Just remember this is a blog site and people are free to express their opinions so I don’t think rob was in the wrong for expressing his opinion.

  • Comment 176, posted at 17.01.11 11:00:45 by Ben Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 171) : I read Keo’s weekly newsletters and there’re just as opinionated as some of the material on this site.
    Shouldn’t it be up to Sharks fans to decide on what we want?
    If it becomes too hot in the kitchen then shouldn’t people who can’t handle it get out, I mean just not read the stuff on this site?
    I think Rob doing a terrific job of keeping Sharks fans informed and getting people excited about the season long in advance. This isn’t an easy job esp. finding content in the offseason.

  • Comment 177, posted at 17.01.11 11:01:37 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 177) :

    Amen :mrgreen:

  • Comment 178, posted at 17.01.11 11:03:14 by chaz Reply

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  • i gather Try Time you are a Lion Supporter πŸ™‚

  • Comment 179, posted at 17.01.11 11:04:45 by chaz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 173) : and for three years you’ve taken knocks when you may stepped out of line. so what is one more to you? as a sharks supporter though and an unofficial spokesperson for the sharks, is there a need to get vindictive. you can’t expect your bloggers and readers to play nice when you lead revolts. i see you got rid of your accusation in comment 75, but had klempie or i said something like that we would have gotten a mouthful. all i am trying to say is lets not put ourselves in a position where it can come back to bite us. lets try and keep in the spirit of the sharks and fight fair.

  • Comment 180, posted at 17.01.11 11:10:37 by try time Reply

     
  • @beet (Comment 177) : and that is why i don’t go to keo’s site. keo is known to be a snake. why do we have to go down to his level? aren’t we better than that?

  • Comment 181, posted at 17.01.11 11:12:04 by try time Reply

     
  • @Ben (Comment 176) : as i am not wrong in airing mine.

  • Comment 182, posted at 17.01.11 11:12:43 by try time Reply

     
  • @beet (Comment 177) : thank you beet – I do appreciate that.

    Anyone who takes the time to objectively read through the articles I’ve written since starting this site will be forced to admit that the vast majority of them are very positive. One thing, though, that I have never claimed to be, is objective and unbiased. This is a site called Sharksworld, for goodness sake – expect the majority of pieces to take the Sharks’ side.

  • Comment 183, posted at 17.01.11 11:12:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 171) :
    @try time (Comment 172) :

    Look, not to be vindictive or not objective, if you don’t like the reporting, why don’t you look at the next site.

  • Comment 184, posted at 17.01.11 11:14:39 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 180) :

    Seriously dude, if you want everything to be smiley and pretty and nice, check this site:

    Click

  • Comment 185, posted at 17.01.11 11:17:37 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • eish eish

    all this in one Monday morning

    come on guys

  • Comment 186, posted at 17.01.11 11:17:54 by chaz Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 184) :

    Hey Rich,

    I want one of them cups!! 😈 πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 187, posted at 17.01.11 11:19:50 by wpw Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 185) :
    :mrgreen:

    eeeeee Rich you really make me laugh my friend in good spirit and gee what a good blond on that site πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 188, posted at 17.01.11 11:20:39 by chaz Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 187) : morning Wes :mrgreen:

  • Comment 189, posted at 17.01.11 11:21:14 by chaz Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 174) : i would if i could watch the games. i am not allowed to watch overseas rugby at home as that is pushing my luck. my wife restricts me to sharks and bok rugby. which is fair. but it would be nice if in the off season rob could keep us updated, especially as he is up there and has access to more info.

  • Comment 190, posted at 17.01.11 11:21:35 by try time Reply

     
  • @wpw (Comment 187) : Wes do you think Province and Sharks will make the Finals :mrgreen:

  • Comment 191, posted at 17.01.11 11:22:09 by chaz Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 187) :

    Wes.. good morning!

    You have a good weekend?

    We shall battle for cups come 18 February.. hehe

  • Comment 192, posted at 17.01.11 11:22:15 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Hahahahaha man I love this site! Lol πŸ™‚

  • Comment 193, posted at 17.01.11 11:25:04 by Ben Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 180) : I agree with you but just do as I do…..ignore these threads and don’t get involved with it.

  • Comment 194, posted at 17.01.11 11:25:09 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 190) :
    😯

    no way

    my hubby can do just what he wants then he must go and sleep because i try and not miss one game if Overseas Durbies or SA ones
    Chaz watches πŸ˜‰

    but i think that is Robs off time and with his family

  • Comment 195, posted at 17.01.11 11:25:15 by chaz Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 184) : how often do i complain about rob’s articles? i wouldn’t waste my time on this site if his work was shit. rob does a good job. but rob has had a real bee in his bonnet for the lions and i thought enough is enough. let the battle happen on the field. the sharks showed wp that stars don’t win games, we can show the lions the same.

  • Comment 196, posted at 17.01.11 11:25:51 by try time Reply

     
  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 192) : your on and Chaz will see if she can catch up πŸ˜†

  • Comment 197, posted at 17.01.11 11:26:40 by chaz Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 193) : πŸ˜†

  • Comment 198, posted at 17.01.11 11:28:01 by chaz Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 196) :

    Complaining about something that is free and that some people do in their free time for the love of the Sharks and for rugby in general is uncalled for. Period.

  • Comment 199, posted at 17.01.11 11:28:54 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 196) :

    And I bet for every one of the good articles that fit your standards, you metioned to Rob what a good article it is or what a good job he is doing?

  • Comment 200, posted at 17.01.11 11:30:35 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 185) : Comment of the year mate! Piss funny! πŸ™‚

  • Comment 201, posted at 17.01.11 11:33:38 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 176) :

    Just remember this is a blog site and people are free to express their opinions

    THAT my friend, is the biggest illusion…

  • Comment 202, posted at 17.01.11 11:33:50 by klempie Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 196) : have to agree… i was also guilty of lambasting the cheetahs in the whole Mapoe saga, but actually we cant throw stones if we are also guilty. the lions irritates the SH#T out of me, but good on them if they get money through dodgy deals. we should try and get avenues of staying one step ahead of the opposition.

  • Comment 203, posted at 17.01.11 11:34:14 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 183) : Screw Stormersworld! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 204, posted at 17.01.11 11:35:48 by klempie Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 189) :

    Hey Chaz,

    Thanks for inviting me to your Superbru group!! πŸ™‚

  • Comment 205, posted at 17.01.11 11:38:12 by wpw Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 200) : for every good article he gets good comments great reception and hits to his site. if people don’t like something they will stop reading it. i don’t like keo, i don’t go there. i don’t like the bulls so i don’t go to their website etc.

  • Comment 206, posted at 17.01.11 11:43:10 by try time Reply

     
  • @klempie (Comment 202) : Is that your opinion? πŸ™‚

  • Comment 207, posted at 17.01.11 11:43:52 by Ben Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 206) :

    Then for every bad article you should shut your mouth and go to the next, surely?

    If you can’t give positive feedback, don’t bother with the negative feedback..

  • Comment 208, posted at 17.01.11 11:45:38 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 207) : No at all. It’s in the Rules. πŸ˜›

    http://www.sharksworld.co.za/the-rules/

  • Comment 209, posted at 17.01.11 11:47:05 by klempie Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 199) : Rich..you are being overly sensitive here. TT gave his opinion about a matter. Chill a bit. I agree with TT that the Lions bashing is getting a bit boring but I choose to ignore it and I suggest TT does the same.

    I just wish the rugby would start so be can really bash each other about rugby and not the sideshows

  • Comment 210, posted at 17.01.11 11:47:15 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 205) : πŸ˜‰

    thanks for joining :mrgreen:

    @Richard Ferguson (Comment 208) : are you going to join my friend its only just for fun πŸ˜†

  • Comment 211, posted at 17.01.11 11:48:37 by chaz Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 209) : So what do you mean its the biggest illusion?

  • Comment 212, posted at 17.01.11 11:49:19 by Ben Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 200) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 213, posted at 17.01.11 11:51:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 212) : The illusion that you are free to express your opinions…

  • Comment 214, posted at 17.01.11 11:59:46 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 214) : gee dude… still banging the same drum? You know what they say about the definition of insanity.

    There are plenty of other blogs where you are free to wang on about politics if you want to. Why not go find one of them instead of trying to turn this place into something it’s never going to be?

  • Comment 215, posted at 17.01.11 12:04:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 207) :

    Jy’s lekker snaaks nΓ©!! :mrgreen: πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 216, posted at 17.01.11 12:04:47 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 215) :

    starts reeling him in….

    πŸ™‚

  • Comment 217, posted at 17.01.11 12:07:12 by klempie Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 182) : But you see it is wrong when your opinion is that rob’s isn’t free to express his opinion.

  • Comment 218, posted at 17.01.11 12:07:28 by Ben Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 217) : crafty bastard… you got me monologuing!

  • Comment 219, posted at 17.01.11 12:08:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 208) : geez, i`m sorry… is that how it works around here? ❓ πŸ˜•

  • Comment 220, posted at 17.01.11 12:08:27 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 219) : LOL πŸ˜†

  • Comment 221, posted at 17.01.11 12:08:45 by klempie Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 104) :

    i dont think the lions need vodacom to put pressure on SS to show less of the lions .. SS shows noting all on there own πŸ‘Ώ

  • Comment 222, posted at 17.01.11 12:10:46 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 222) : And who watches Lions games anyway? πŸ˜›

  • Comment 223, posted at 17.01.11 12:11:39 by klempie Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 220) : no – I wouldn’t necessarily say it works like that around here. I’m not gonna get hung up about not getting 1000 comments telling me what a great guy I am every time I write something.

    You can rather just “like” it on Facebook πŸ™‚

  • Comment 224, posted at 17.01.11 12:11:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 216) : Ek doen mar wat ek kan!!! πŸ™‚

  • Comment 225, posted at 17.01.11 12:12:14 by Ben Reply
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  • πŸ˜†

    You okes seem mighty nervous…..

    πŸ˜†

  • Comment 226, posted at 17.01.11 12:12:32 by Grrrr Reply

     
  • @Zibbie (Comment 222) : SS tends to focus more on the log leaders…

  • Comment 227, posted at 17.01.11 12:14:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Grrrr (Comment 226) : hey – welcome… are you the same Grrr from Keo?

  • Comment 228, posted at 17.01.11 12:15:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Grrrr (Comment 226) : who the Sharks or the Lions ❓

  • Comment 229, posted at 17.01.11 12:15:22 by chaz Reply

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  • Hey are there any rule changes this year? Haven’t been keeping track.

  • Comment 230, posted at 17.01.11 12:15:42 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 230) : Didn’t you know you should log into site rules everyday BEFORE you start commenting? πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 231, posted at 17.01.11 12:17:16 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Grrrr (Comment 226) : ok

    my mistake welcome

    but i think its the Lions who are mighty nervous….. and runing scared πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 232, posted at 17.01.11 12:17:33 by chaz Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 231) : Rob has put a special redirect to the Rules just for me when I sign in.

    But I’m wanting to know about Super Rugby rules here… πŸ˜›

  • Comment 233, posted at 17.01.11 12:19:15 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 230) : why? What loopholes do you think you’ve found? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 234, posted at 17.01.11 12:20:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @chaz (Comment 229) : The Sharks…. Some of the comments made seems some are nervous about the cash injection at the Lions. Jeez guys, give us Lions supporters a bit of a break…. We need some good news.A strong Lions team is a must and so what if we buy back some of the players. You guys have been steal… I mean buying our guys for years. Yes, I’m the same Grrrr as from Keo. Grrrr….I’m (still) a Lion!

  • Comment 235, posted at 17.01.11 12:20:18 by Grrrr Reply

     
  • @klempie (Comment 233) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 236, posted at 17.01.11 12:20:39 by chaz Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 233) : hehehe.I’m not surprised

  • Comment 237, posted at 17.01.11 12:20:52 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 233) : oh right… I don’t think so.

    KSA will come along and point out that you caused the confusion by talking about rules when rugby has none – only “laws” πŸ™‚

    Be that as it may, I’m pretty sure it’s the same as last year.

  • Comment 238, posted at 17.01.11 12:21:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 238) : That’s bad news. Tries were cheap last year.

  • Comment 239, posted at 17.01.11 12:22:19 by klempie Reply

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  • think some people need to change a nappy or too.

    My only gripe about this website is there is not enough Frans Steyn news…. πŸ˜›

  • Comment 240, posted at 17.01.11 12:22:28 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Grrrr (Comment 235) : cool man – always nice to see a familiar face!

  • Comment 241, posted at 17.01.11 12:22:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 240) : πŸ™‚

  • Comment 242, posted at 17.01.11 12:23:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 240) : Steyn is a spring chicken. Are you the sugar mommy type?

  • Comment 243, posted at 17.01.11 12:24:34 by klempie Reply

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  • @Grrrr (Comment 235) : its ok to get a bit of the buying thing i don’t think its the worried thing like you say i just think eish ok i’m not going there at all but what will happen when there are no more players to buy and its ok i had to deal the hard way 😳 when it come to the Lions and their poaching but welcome again and will see all one the field

    May the best team win and i look at it this way win or loose from the Lions its the team that came from the sharks πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 244, posted at 17.01.11 12:26:08 by chaz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 241) : Thanks dude, ja long time no chat.

    Been off the radar at the the dwarfs site…. Not the same as the good old days where you could banter without your mother being brought into the whole fracas…

  • Comment 245, posted at 17.01.11 12:26:51 by Grrrr Reply

     
  • @klempie (Comment 243) : I am whatever type he needs me to be…. πŸ˜€ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 246, posted at 17.01.11 12:27:17 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 243) : eish don’t go and hurt his feelings know klempie

  • Comment 247, posted at 17.01.11 12:27:24 by chaz Reply

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  • @Grrrr (Comment 245) : Jou ma se…

  • Comment 248, posted at 17.01.11 12:27:27 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 248) : 😯

  • Comment 249, posted at 17.01.11 12:28:35 by chaz Reply

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  • @Grrrr (Comment 235) : You can try and buy those players back but rumour has it they hated it at the lions so good luck in convincing them to go back! πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 250, posted at 17.01.11 12:28:42 by Ben Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 246) : I’ve never asked, where are you based?

  • Comment 251, posted at 17.01.11 12:28:43 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 248) : πŸ˜†

  • Comment 252, posted at 17.01.11 12:28:55 by Grrrr Reply

     
  • @Just a Fan (Comment 246) : what about what his fans think he must do doesn’t it count πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 253, posted at 17.01.11 12:29:48 by chaz Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 250) : Money talks mate… But if players doesn’t want to play there then fine.

    We have had big issues there for sure and after the last few years players must have been G2tvol in playing there. But for the first time in years there does seem to be a change happening. If it is going to work lets see…. only time will tell.

  • Comment 254, posted at 17.01.11 12:31:37 by Grrrr Reply

     
  • @Ben (Comment 250) : :mrgreen:

    he can try but money won’t buy them back

  • Comment 255, posted at 17.01.11 12:32:00 by chaz Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 218) : And that my friends is my opinion! πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 256, posted at 17.01.11 12:32:10 by Ben Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 251) : Cape Town

  • Comment 257, posted at 17.01.11 12:34:25 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Grrrr (Comment 245) : yes… seems they’re not even that interested in it themselves any more. Hardly any new articles – and when there are, it’s either a piece taken from the mag or a 4-liner.

    Anyway – we’re actually not unwelcoming to Lions fans here – in fact, some of our most treasured bloggers have the red-and-white tendency. It’s more the stirrers that we take offence to πŸ™‚

  • Comment 258, posted at 17.01.11 12:35:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @chaz (Comment 253) : Would be much better if he did what THIS fan wants πŸ˜€

  • Comment 259, posted at 17.01.11 12:36:20 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 259) : oooo Sounds risque! πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 260, posted at 17.01.11 12:38:58 by klempie Reply

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  • cheers – I’m off to work

  • Comment 261, posted at 17.01.11 12:39:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 259) : :mrgreen:

    i think you should give him a call he was once on SW send him an e-mail through Rob maybe it will help :mrgreen:

    and not go to the lions we need his kicking foot along with the others we already have :mrgreen: πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 262, posted at 17.01.11 12:39:49 by chaz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 261) : cheers

  • Comment 263, posted at 17.01.11 12:40:33 by chaz Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 260) : ooohh..yeah get dont me started….Stef will be upset….

  • Comment 264, posted at 17.01.11 12:41:29 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 262) : I would be Rob’s slave forever if he did that…..

  • Comment 265, posted at 17.01.11 12:42:35 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 265) : :mrgreen:

    i wouln’t go so far you never knows what he’ll make you do my friend

  • Comment 266, posted at 17.01.11 12:44:04 by chaz Reply

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  • href=”#comment-261413″>chaz (Comment 266) : πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

  • Comment 267, posted at 17.01.11 12:47:13 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Grrrr (Comment 254) : Money talks you say… Well with that said I guess the money wasn’t talking load enough when it came to the beast. Beast’s response must have been “talk louder money I can’t hear you!” πŸ™‚

  • Comment 268, posted at 17.01.11 12:47:28 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 268) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 269, posted at 17.01.11 12:49:51 by chaz Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 233) :
    Klempie I would love to see these rule changes made regarding the ball going out:

    Foot in touch

    If a player (who thinks he’s some kind of Einstein) just prior to catching a ball that has been kicked by an opponent and not bounced before being caught, decides to place one foot on or over the touchline in the hope of having the kick declared out on the full, then guess what – this moron of a player just turned over possession in the quickest fashion possible. Verdict: lineout to the team that kicked the ball in the position where the idiot stuck his foot into touch.

    Ball in the in-goal area

    If a player tries to simultaneously position any part of his body on or over his deadball line and dot down a still in motion ball that was kicked into his in-goal area by an opponent, then NO this retard did not just force a own feed scrum back where the ball was kicked from. Verdict: an own try is scored worth 5 points to the opposition.

  • Comment 270, posted at 17.01.11 12:52:18 by beet Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 258) : And into which of those two categories would I fit?
    πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

  • Comment 271, posted at 17.01.11 12:57:45 by Greg Reply

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  • Ok i’m off enjoy the rest of the afternoon :mrgreen:

  • Comment 272, posted at 17.01.11 13:00:17 by chaz Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 272) :

    greg for what it matters i like you buddie πŸ˜›

  • Comment 273, posted at 17.01.11 13:00:37 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @chaz (Comment 273) : Enjoy chazzles!

  • Comment 274, posted at 17.01.11 13:05:14 by Ben Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 274) : MTN Zibbie how you doin?? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 275, posted at 17.01.11 13:12:32 by Original Champion Reply
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  • Lions might get yellow jerseys this season! Yello MTN! πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 276, posted at 17.01.11 13:14:50 by Ben Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 270) : I just hope we don’t see more Lions/Chiefs fiasco’s.

  • Comment 277, posted at 17.01.11 13:17:44 by klempie Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 271) : Treading on thin ice there. You’re lucky Rob’s left. 😈

  • Comment 278, posted at 17.01.11 13:18:35 by klempie Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 274) : Hey I like you too, we sing from the same hymn sheet!

  • Comment 279, posted at 17.01.11 13:23:51 by Greg Reply

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  • @Original Champion (Comment 276) :

    AYOBA :mrgreen: @Ben (Comment 277) :

    yellow jersy = win πŸ˜›

    @klempie (Comment 279) :

    nah im just joking around you have to look at the bright ( YELLOW) side of life ne:P

  • Comment 280, posted at 17.01.11 13:24:07 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 277) : Mayclash with the stormers logo???

  • Comment 281, posted at 17.01.11 13:25:09 by Greg Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 281) : Yellow jersey with blue mtn sign?

  • Comment 282, posted at 17.01.11 13:27:19 by Ben Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 281) : Okay I made the effort to buy tickets for Newlands . .. you make sure the Felions are there!!

  • Comment 283, posted at 17.01.11 13:41:49 by Original Champion Reply
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  • @Original Champion (Comment 283) : Doubt they will be, come to Joburg, you can see them at the park!

  • Comment 284, posted at 17.01.11 13:43:39 by Greg Reply

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  • @Original Champion (Comment 283) : It’s a shame the Cheetahs aren’t playing. I like to get our obligatory loss for the season out of the way BEFORE competition starts. 😈

  • Comment 285, posted at 17.01.11 13:45:46 by klempie Reply

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  • @Original Champion (Comment 283) : But you want to live in cape town, so you going to have to make do with the wp girls, unfortunately! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 286, posted at 17.01.11 13:46:14 by Greg Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 282) : thats not ayoba… πŸ˜†

  • Comment 287, posted at 17.01.11 13:58:09 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 172) : J Muller , BJ Botha and Pedrie Wannenburg played well in a tough gritty close game in typical Irish weather , Ruaan Pienaar had a great game πŸ™‚ Ulster beat Biarritz 9-6 , but unfortunately BJ went off injured , hold his wrist πŸ˜₯ And by the way , hello to everyone on the website πŸ™‚ a great website , and yes i’m a Shark’s fan 😈

  • Comment 288, posted at 17.01.11 14:06:40 by SharkyTaylor Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 287) : Nope, not at all, that’s why I ignored it πŸ˜†

  • Comment 289, posted at 17.01.11 14:12:38 by Greg Reply

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  • @SharkyTaylor (Comment 288) : Welcome Mr Taylor

  • Comment 290, posted at 17.01.11 14:12:48 by klempie Reply

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  • @SharkyTaylor (Comment 288) :

    Welcome to the site!

    Thank you for the update regarding the overseas based players.

  • Comment 291, posted at 17.01.11 14:13:19 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @SharkyTaylor (Comment 288) : Welcome!! This is THE place to be when your a Sharks fan! πŸ˜€

  • Comment 292, posted at 17.01.11 14:13:57 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 290) : Thank-you Klempie πŸ˜€

  • Comment 293, posted at 17.01.11 14:16:28 by SharkyTaylor Reply

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  • Thank-you to pokkel & to Richard Ferguson as well as any-one else that welcomes me πŸ™‚

  • Comment 294, posted at 17.01.11 14:19:14 by SharkyTaylor Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 292) :

    But not during the S14 though!! 😈 πŸ™„

  • Comment 295, posted at 17.01.11 14:23:16 by wpw Reply
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  • @SharkyTaylor (Comment 294) :@wpw (Comment 295) : Oh and we TOLERATE some Stormers supporters here as well 😈

  • Comment 296, posted at 17.01.11 14:33:03 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @SharkyTaylor (Comment 294) : welcome to the site dude!

  • Comment 297, posted at 17.01.11 14:37:05 by Ben Reply
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  • @SharkyTaylor (Comment 288) : thanks and welcome. i saw that ulster won that game putting them in a good postion to make the play offs. pity about bj, hope it isn’t serious.

  • Comment 298, posted at 17.01.11 14:40:17 by try time Reply

     
  • @Greg (Comment 286) : It boggles the mind how the city with undoubtably the highest concentration of models in SA, could have the most average dancing girls.

    Maybe Stormers blew the bank on all their centres??

    wpw, claytie what`s your take on this??

  • Comment 299, posted at 17.01.11 14:41:29 by Original Champion Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 295) : S14??? I know you guys in the cape, are a little behind the times, but S14 is sooo last year! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 300, posted at 17.01.11 14:47:57 by Greg Reply

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  • Have to say rob this was a pretty shit article you only got 300 comments so far! Haha πŸ˜‰ πŸ™‚

  • Comment 301, posted at 17.01.11 14:55:58 by Ben Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 295) : wes, you happy now with your new manager at Liverpool? you guys still need some more playmakers and defenders imo…

  • Comment 302, posted at 17.01.11 15:06:04 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 300) : And Keo is complimenting me on my style…

  • Comment 303, posted at 17.01.11 15:09:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • See Beast is chilling at Valley of the Waves.

    Not exactly sure how that would help our scrum in the Neo Africa series . . .

  • Comment 304, posted at 17.01.11 15:13:27 by Original Champion Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 302) : What an honour! πŸ™‚

  • Comment 305, posted at 17.01.11 15:20:39 by Ben Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 301) : Sucks to be Wes! Who do you support?

  • Comment 306, posted at 17.01.11 15:22:49 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 305) :

    HEY!! πŸ‘Ώ

  • Comment 307, posted at 17.01.11 15:38:01 by wpw Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 301) :

    Our new Manager is a LEGEND. Of course I am happy.

    Just wish we could sign another striker, a winger or two and an attacking midfielder.

    Was thinking this morning if ever there was a striker we should sign it should be Samuel Eto’o. He is just unbelievable and in the prime of his career. 😎

  • Comment 308, posted at 17.01.11 15:40:27 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 306) : Haha don’t worry sucks to be me to I’m a chelsea man but at least I can say I support the better rugby team! πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 309, posted at 17.01.11 15:41:29 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 305) : Wes is a WP, Stormers and Liverpool supporter….but deep down inside he wishes he was a Sharks supporter πŸ˜†

  • Comment 310, posted at 17.01.11 15:54:28 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 309) : Don’t they all??? πŸ™‚

  • Comment 311, posted at 17.01.11 15:56:34 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 305) : I`m a MAN UTD fan. pretty happy with our draw at spurs last night. Spurs playing some good football under Harry.

    @wpw (Comment 307) : yep, i wouldnt mind having eto at Utd aswell. maybe you guys should go all out and just sign Messi? 😎

    you guys need a playmaker, assisting Gerrard and Torres and 2 new Centrebacks. your problem lies in your defence imo. your scoring goals but leaking more than youre scoring…

  • Comment 312, posted at 17.01.11 16:18:55 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @Original Champion (Comment 304) : it’s a “recovery” session

  • Comment 313, posted at 17.01.11 17:55:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • Well Now here is a thing.

    We have the Stormers who are traditionally Blue and White, sponsored by a Red and Yellow company.

    We have the Lions who are traditionally Red and White, sponsored by a Blue and Yellow company

    Red, Blue White and Yellow. 😯 😯 😯 MOERSE combinations those for jersey colours. :ugh:

  • Comment 314, posted at 17.01.11 21:14:37 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • I see the Cheetahs still have their erstwhile sponsor vodacom’s name in their URL. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 315, posted at 17.01.11 21:19:16 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • I’m a Liverpool fan too , But atleast I support the SHARKS 😈 Another Chelsea fan I know is Brian Mujati , and he’s not much happier than me at the moment πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 316, posted at 18.01.11 15:18:56 by SharkyTaylor Reply

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  • @SharkyTaylor (Comment 288) :

  • Comment 317, posted at 20.01.11 18:31:54 by SharkyTaylor Reply

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  • BJ Botha has been ruled out of Ulster’s crucial Heineken Cup encounter against Aironi but Rory Best remains in contention for the game in Italy.

    Botha picked up an elbow injury late in Saturday’s game and is scheduled to undergo an operation on Friday.

    The above excerpt is courtesy of the BBC website .

  • Comment 318, posted at 20.01.11 18:33:43 by SharkyTaylor Reply

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