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Sharks thumped by Lions

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :Lions, Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 1 Feb 2011 at 21:37
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The Lions were victorious over the Sharks in their second hit out of the season in Cape Town tonight.

In a game that battled to get the scoreboard rolling the Sharks managed to open the scoring after 33 minutes. The score came from good lineout possesion that was spread wide to the right and then back to the left seeing Pat Lambie carry on where he left off in the Currie Cup Final.

A mini blitz by the Lions saw them score 24 unanswered points during the next 20 minutes. A converted Derick Minnie try and a penalty by Andre Pretorius saw the Lions go into half-time with a 10 – 5 lead. Warren Whiteley & Jaco Taute then each went over for converted tries to complete the 24 point blitz early in the second half.

Lwazi Mvovo then brought a glimmer of hope for a fightback by the Sharks to take the score to 24 – 10. That is where it ended though with the Lions opening the floodgates and Franco van der Merwe, Caylib Oosthuizen & Michael Killian all crossing the line for a rather sad final score of 41 – 10.

We all believe that very little can be read into matches such as this. That is until your team wins. Let’s face it, the losers will be saying “This was only a warm-up” while the winners will be bouyed by a very important confidence boosting victory.

Congratulations to the Lions who will leave Cape Town in much better spirits than they did last year. To the Sharks we can only say, you looked a little rusty but that was to be expected and the only way is up.

Tries: Derick Minnie, Warren Whiteley, Jaco Taute, Franco van der Merwe, Caylib Oosthuizen, Michael Killian
Conversions: Burton Francis (4)
Penalties: Andre Pretorius

Tries: Patrick Lambie, Lwazi Mvovo


  • So we lost. Tough pill to swallow, but we know it is early days and the Lions and Stormers didn’t look much better earlier this week.

    Let’s see how nuch improvement we have during the next game.

  • Comment 1, posted at 01.02.11 21:43:11 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Not too bothered by the result.
    Good to hear Captain John played a full 80 minutes…

  • Comment 2, posted at 01.02.11 21:48:45 by Crock Reply
  • Was the Harewa Cup on the line ? If so that means John Mitchell has retained it.

  • Comment 3, posted at 01.02.11 21:51:14 by Speed7 Reply
  • I wonder how much of the “this is only the lions” mindset the guys had?

    IF that was the case then this loss is a GOOD thing making us realise that we can’t take any team for granted this season.

  • Comment 4, posted at 01.02.11 21:52:45 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Speed7 (Comment 3) :
    I believe it is for ANY game the two teams play against each other.

    It is a little moot though coz he has it already.

    Hawera BTW. 😉

  • Comment 5, posted at 01.02.11 21:57:47 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 4) : A loss is only good if you can take lessons from it and improve for the next game, I guess this is what pre-season is for.

  • Comment 6, posted at 01.02.11 22:12:26 by war1 Reply
  • oh yea, that was painfull, but it was our first, looking foreward to saterday were we are going to turn the heat up. GO SHARKS ALL THE WAY!!!

  • Comment 7, posted at 01.02.11 22:18:03 by franshark Reply
  • When the LIONS lost against the Stormers last week I did not think “only a warm-up”..I was thinking hopefully the LIONS won…although a 15 – 0 loss again a team with 10 Bokke is not too bad…

    Now I am in much better spirits now that the won and comfortably so against a team with 12/13 Bokke in their starting line-up…

  • Comment 8, posted at 01.02.11 22:40:16 by Hmmm Reply

  • further to comment 8 – Not saying the LIONS are now S15 contenders…but I am comfortable that we are going to win a good number of games…

  • Comment 9, posted at 01.02.11 22:45:09 by Hmmm Reply

  • The top teams always lose the warm ups………Plumtree prob just helped out his old friend you know.

  • Comment 10, posted at 01.02.11 22:47:50 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 9) : Anything is better than the embarrassing walking bonus point team the Lions have been over the last few years.

  • Comment 11, posted at 01.02.11 22:49:28 by lostfish Reply
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  • further to comment 8 – Not saying the LIONS are now S15 contenders…but I am comfortable that we are going to win a good number of games….

  • Comment 12, posted at 01.02.11 22:50:11 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 12) : We heard you the first time 😉

  • Comment 13, posted at 01.02.11 23:01:36 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 12) :

    Who against ? ❓

  • Comment 14, posted at 01.02.11 23:07:18 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • Looks like Plum is quite concerned about Alistair Hargreave’s injury, it’s a back injury and Hargs is in hospital, they are still waiting for more news from the doctors on the extent of the injury, hope it’s not too serious! 🙁

  • Comment 15, posted at 01.02.11 23:08:44 by war1 Reply
  • @war1 (Comment 15) :
    Seemed to be lower back – and those are often the worst. Wish him all the best.

  • Comment 16, posted at 01.02.11 23:45:01 by Big Fish Reply
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  • so bulls crusaders and sharks all lose warm up games. Really wouldn’t read anything into these results. All three will around the top 6 if not all in it

  • Comment 17, posted at 02.02.11 00:48:05 by RuckingFun Reply

  • Hope Hargreaves is alright

  • Comment 18, posted at 02.02.11 01:35:44 by RuckingFun Reply

  • Well played Lions even though it was only a trial match. This young Lions team is in a much better shape, physically and mentally. And with the best coach in the world who just spent 4 months preparing this team (compared to the few weeks that Dick spent in preparation a year ago) one just see the damage they are going to inflict on many a side.

    Go Lions

  • Comment 19, posted at 02.02.11 06:03:25 by RL Reply

  • It’s Going to be a good year, whoohooo, is how the song goes please allow me a litle joy, its been a while and I know its only a warm up, but I think the Lions are finally going in the right direction!! Superbru is going to be so difficult this year, anybody have any thoughts on the Rebels, I am wondering just how good they will be against real opposition. But this conference thing is going to change the dynamics of the competition thats for sure.

  • Comment 20, posted at 02.02.11 06:25:39 by Whindy Reply
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  • This game meant nothing result-wize but the margin concerns me. If we’ve lost by lets say 17-10 or so then I wouldve felt much better.

  • Comment 21, posted at 02.02.11 07:11:24 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 20) : Agree on the Superbru, its gonna be challenging. LMS is going to be a shocker I think. 😛

  • Comment 22, posted at 02.02.11 07:13:27 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • People sitting at the game it was obvious this game did not mean to much to the Sharks, its like up untill Hargreaves got injured they fired then took their foot off the excellerator

    Hargreave was in bad shape when they helped him off the field
    not to sure about Ludick

    The passing ws wild and all over the place

    Scrums we slaughtered them in the first 15 min and then on in we got penalised in just about every scrum there after

    We got penalised for something, and something was said by Sharks players to Jonker, this after about 30 min and Jonker advanced 10 meters, thereafter he nailed the shit outa us.

    Lineouts was shabby and we lost quite a few

    To be honest this is the first game we have played in the start of the new season and one could see the mindset was not right nor had the rust been cleaned off.

    Even this comming weekend i wont worry to much although i have no doubt Plumtree will read the team the riot act, and you will see a very different side against WP

  • Comment 23, posted at 02.02.11 07:22:54 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 20) : Windy sorry mate but that sounds very arrogant?? so the sharks or other SA teams is not real opposition??

    This is pre season friendly , Sharks had played their first match , Lions their 2nd and it showed

    lets not get ahead of ourselves because trust me soon you will see the REAL local teams

    Yes i agree the new system is poiling what the past meant , i think the Lions have made great strides from the past year or 2 but its a little early to start dissing the other SA teams as not REAL or good enough to test the Lions

    It could just blow up that bubble

  • Comment 24, posted at 02.02.11 07:29:10 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • First ukzn impi now the sharks get spanked! Really freaking annoyed right now! I get it’s just a practice match but the way they lost is freaking pathetic,very disappointing and now I can’t even watch the match on saturday between sharks and stormers because my good for nothing stormer supporting boss tells me I gotta go to vaal dam and sail for the company! :e 😡 nxa!!(Clicking tongue)

  • Comment 25, posted at 02.02.11 07:35:51 by Poisy Reply
  • I’m not worried about the fact that we lost, or that the players were rusty. What is a grave concern for me is the amount of tries leaked, our inability to score tries ourselves, and our lacksadaisical approach to discipline. Hopefully the next game will give me a little more peace of mind…

    I think congratulations to the Lions (and their long-suffering fans) are in order too. Although it may have been a fairly meaningless pre-season friendly, I am glad that they are not kicking off the year in their usual “whipping boy for all, sundry and their grandmas” fashion. I really do think they have finally turned a fairly major corner.

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.02.11 07:38:04 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 17) : The difference is that with the Bulls and the Crusaders the teams that lost had none of their big name players in them.

    Our problem is that this team is probably our strongest side available and we got our butts handed to us. It was only a warm up game, but I’m pretty concerned.

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.02.11 07:47:16 by Butchie34 Reply
  • Although preseason friendly results generally arent a good indicator of what is to come there must surely be a few concerns for the sharks management. Firstly these guys are pros and therefore I dont like this whole they just rusty term because if i told my boss sorry i stuffed up im just rusty i may have to find employment elsewhere. Secondly if there are “rusty” thats only an excuse for the backline and other set moves to not gel 100%…not defending and leaking tries has nothing to do with rustiness but everything to do with attitude. If like some people say they were not up for the game, then why play at all? Send in the youngsters and fringe players who really want to stake a claim to a starting jersey!

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.02.11 07:48:03 by SheldonK Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 8) : I have to agree with you there, and can really see why you are so optimistic. But having 12/13 boks in the team WHEN IT COUNTS will make the world of difference. Congrats anyway! 😳

  • Comment 29, posted at 02.02.11 07:49:05 by SharksRTB Reply

  • We will be better against the Stormers. Might even not beat them as well, but there will be an improvement. And then probably another hit-out against the VC side before the tourni start?

  • Comment 30, posted at 02.02.11 07:52:08 by SharksRTB Reply

  • Guys, I scanned the comments on the match. So if I missed it I apologise…but where the heck is Bissie? 😯

  • Comment 31, posted at 02.02.11 07:59:12 by SharksRTB Reply

  • I too agree with Hmm the lions have lots to look forward to and good luck to them

    last night they were the better team and wanted a win , that was clear

    The reason i say i was not too concerned about last night is in Plumtree’s tactics, he made subs continuosly and so fast one could not even keep track

    we didnt take shots at goal , there were many signs that the sharks in no way had intensity or the drive to want to win that game , I am not making excuses for them, but it seriously was very clear

  • Comment 32, posted at 02.02.11 08:00:53 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • The good news is the Sharks have a better squad than in 2010.
    The bad news is the Lions are more fearsome opposition than in 2010.
    Hopefully we’ll up our preparations and peak at the right time in 2011.
    Can’t say I’m going to set high quality expectations for the February rugby matches in Durban tho. Usually humidity = greasy ball = poor handling = forgettable rugby.

  • Comment 33, posted at 02.02.11 08:02:28 by beet Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 31) : Bismark has a sore shoulder and was not chanced against the lions , he got injured against the sharks XV a week or so ago in a practice game
    I doubt they will risk him in contact this comming weekend

    like i said last nights fiasko already might have seen the end of the season for Hargreaves

    Last year in the pre season warm up match we lost Hernandez , and see what that cost us

    Ludick i am not to sure about

  • Comment 34, posted at 02.02.11 08:03:47 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • one new player that concerned me last night was bosman , his defence was shocking 😯

  • Comment 35, posted at 02.02.11 08:05:41 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • one is for sure bosman and adi played together in the secondhalf and our backline defence went byebye tootledooooooo ciao totsiens

  • Comment 36, posted at 02.02.11 08:11:27 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 34) : I heard that Hargs was stretchered off, but was Ludik as well?

    If so, then it’s very concerning. It might mean that Lambie is shifted away from his best position, FH. That is very concerning.

  • Comment 37, posted at 02.02.11 08:11:28 by Butchie34 Reply
  • @Butchie34 (Comment 37) : yes hargers went down , got up and immidiately went down agian , after about 3 min he tried to stand and was very wobbly and then got stretched off

    ludick just hobbled off

  • Comment 38, posted at 02.02.11 08:12:47 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 37) : this is why i say i am not to worried about the loss

    as hargreaves got injured so one could see the sharks withdrawn from the intensity, who knows if they got instructions not to go full out????

    hargs went full out and landed badly on his spine

  • Comment 39, posted at 02.02.11 08:14:29 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 35) : we all knew replacing dries was going to be difficult. but we have time to sort out the defence and lineout throws.

  • Comment 40, posted at 02.02.11 08:15:48 by try time Reply

  • @sharks_lover (Comment 38) : Hopefully Ludik is just a tweak and he’ll be back for the comp.

    Doesn’t sound like it’s good news for Hargs. He had a brilliant year last year and it would’ve been nice to see him carry on from where he left off. Poor guy has been plagued with injuries.

  • Comment 41, posted at 02.02.11 08:16:33 by Butchie34 Reply
  • @sharks_lover (Comment 39) : Losing is never nice. Maybe the Sharks should take a leaf out of the Bulls handbook (horror!!) and only play warm up games against smaller unions before the comp.

    Yes, they lost against the Kings but one will never see that team play in the S15.

    Ultimately what I’m trying to say is that a sportsman is competitive and never wants to lose so going all out in a warm up is going to be difficult not to do if it’s against opposition you’re going to play in a few weeks. If you play a team you’d never face (even in the CC) then it’s not that important to gain the psychological edge.

  • Comment 42, posted at 02.02.11 08:20:10 by Butchie34 Reply
  • @sharks_lover (Comment 24) : Hey Sharkslover….go read Whindy’s comment again….he was referring to the Rebels and decent opposition. I think you had an unnecessary go at him!

  • Comment 43, posted at 02.02.11 08:24:01 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I think that playing a game half heartedly can probably cause more injuries than going full tilt. If you only go into a tackle at half effort you more likely to get injured than going at it hard.

  • Comment 44, posted at 02.02.11 08:34:29 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 24) : Whindy has every right to be arrogant even though he was not being arrogant.

    read his post again. His real opposition comment is in reference to the Rebels not the Lions and it is beccause they have won two good games against Tonga.

  • Comment 45, posted at 02.02.11 08:36:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 45) : And they beat Fiji aswell 🙂

  • Comment 46, posted at 02.02.11 08:42:00 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 46) : As whindy said. let’s see how they do against real opposittion. 😛

  • Comment 47, posted at 02.02.11 08:44:22 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Whindy (Comment 20) :

    Okay but only a little. 🙂

  • Comment 48, posted at 02.02.11 08:45:58 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 24) :

    I think you missed the point..

    Try putting on the reading glasses next time..

  • Comment 49, posted at 02.02.11 08:48:26 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 44) : I agree. Ask any Sunday league player who has got injured while playing with a hangover.

  • Comment 50, posted at 02.02.11 08:48:52 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Its great to see my predictions are carrying on from where it left off last year!!!

    WTF boys??? What happened?

    I predicted a mauling but by the OTHER team…

  • Comment 51, posted at 02.02.11 08:54:02 by Morné Reply
  • @Morné (Comment 51) : I was waiting for you….and you predicted the Sharks to top the conference! Sharks are stuffed this year!

  • Comment 52, posted at 02.02.11 08:55:47 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 49) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 45) : @Pokkel (Comment 43) : I think its clear enough now, thank you 😉 🙂

  • Comment 53, posted at 02.02.11 08:58:04 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 52) :

    I will refrain from making any more predictions this year (apart from on SuperBru).

  • Comment 54, posted at 02.02.11 08:58:52 by Morné Reply
  • Good result but not reading a single thing into it, I don’t for one second think the Sharks are this poor and the Lions this good.In saying that I can’t help but feel good about the result and the same would have been for Sharks supporters if the result was in your favour.

    @sharks_lover (Comment 24) :

    Where is the arrogance ..? Can’t even allow a Lion supporter to feel good about the result.I think you’ll find Whindy is far from a arrogant Lion supporter.

    Any news on Hargreaves ?

  • Comment 55, posted at 02.02.11 09:00:24 by CSB Razzmatazz Lions ;-) Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 53) :

    I’ll name you our lucky charm 😉

  • Comment 56, posted at 02.02.11 09:03:07 by CSB Razzmatazz Lions ;-) Reply

  • All this means peanuts unless we beat the Bulls at Coke Park.

    Sharks I think you’ll find come the Cheetahs match you’ll be a different animal ..certainly hope so or else Ill be concerned for some posters well being on here 😎

  • Comment 57, posted at 02.02.11 09:05:15 by CSB Razzmatazz Lions ;-) Reply

  • @CSB Razzmatazz Lions 😉 (Comment 56) : Just pray that Morne never predicts a Lions win. THEN you will be screwed. 😀

  • Comment 58, posted at 02.02.11 09:25:30 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I see the Cheetahs have announced that they have a sponsor. But will not name the sponsor for the next 14 days because they have to iron out the details…………

    Well then it isn’t a sponsor yet is it?

    How many eggs do they have? Have they hatched yet?

  • Comment 59, posted at 02.02.11 09:28:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 59) : Cell C perhaps :mrgreen:

  • Comment 60, posted at 02.02.11 09:36:46 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • I think that too many players read this site – they listened to Rob and took it easy 😈

  • Comment 61, posted at 02.02.11 09:43:48 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 61) : Victims of our own success. Damn!!!


  • Comment 62, posted at 02.02.11 09:45:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 4) : i wouldn’t read much into the result. I think the Sharks are good enough team not to fall apart mentally because of this loss.

    What would be really interesting to listened to the guys who watched on the combinations and whether there were some nice moves.

    but I guess the win would be nicer.

  • Comment 63, posted at 02.02.11 09:46:22 by rekinek Reply
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  • Hear that Andre Pretorius suffered a grade one ligament tear in the game. The poor guy always seems to be out hurt.

  • Comment 64, posted at 02.02.11 09:47:21 by Butchie34 Reply
  • @RuckingFun (Comment 17) : though bulls’ was B team ours was A team.

  • Comment 65, posted at 02.02.11 09:59:29 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 20) : what must be heartening for you is the number of tries by Lions.

  • Comment 66, posted at 02.02.11 10:01:03 by rekinek Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 36) : For how long did they play together ?

  • Comment 67, posted at 02.02.11 10:01:56 by Charlie Reply

  • @RuckingFun (Comment 18) : me too. I’m battling to think about anything else at this stage

  • Comment 68, posted at 02.02.11 10:04:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 26) : perhaps there was no fighting attitude. sharks always struggle with motivation against what is perceived as a lesser teams. add to that that it’s only warmup.

  • Comment 69, posted at 02.02.11 10:08:28 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 54) : :mrgreen: and I was about to suggest identification of jinxers and some censorship.

  • Comment 70, posted at 02.02.11 10:12:08 by rekinek Reply
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  • I’m disappointed, Plum clearly got the strategy wrong again. Why just focus on conditioning up until this time, surely there must be a balance between conditioning, game plane execution, ball skills, defensive patterns etc..Do we really have sufficient time to work on all these areas that have clearly not been given sufficient attention??
    Stormers at this time of the year are again looking good again, they clearly got their balance in terms of match preparation correct again. A good start in this competition is important, it gives you momentum to continue pushing. I don’t understand why we just focused on conditioning, we have a big squad which means that there will be conditioning during the season for certain players whilst they are being rested. “Results don’t matter at this stage “ ! 41 – 10…you must be joking.. Very disillusioned…
    One more thing…can all the guys that think that Lambie should focus on fullback get over it already. Yes he can play fullback very well but he is no Mils, Israel Dagg, Kurtly, James O’Connor (mind spelling), in other words..he won’t bring fear to the opposition. Lambie’s skills set are suited for flyhalf.

  • Comment 71, posted at 02.02.11 10:14:03 by GreatSharksays Reply

  • Hold-on now you guys,don’t have a go at sharks_lover..he is more one of “us” than whindy ( not having a go @whindy..let’s just “correct” a blogger,especially a die-hard sharksblogger in a nicer way..)

  • Comment 72, posted at 02.02.11 10:19:10 by bergshark Reply

  • @bergshark (Comment 72) : Bergshark, I have been a supporter of this website from before it became this website, I was one of the people who crossed over from the “otherside”, if you even know the history of this site, so be careful who you call one of “us”. I just dont support the Sharks, and the guys who have done the correcting know me well and one thing I have never been is arrogant. Its a little difficult as a Lions Supporter!! :lol

  • Comment 73, posted at 02.02.11 11:34:26 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 73) : Well said. 😉

  • Comment 74, posted at 02.02.11 11:36:15 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 73) : i’ve always suspected the existance of “ussified” inner circles in internal triangles of squares but otherside 😯 that’s plain scary :mrgreen:

  • Comment 75, posted at 02.02.11 11:42:00 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 74) : which part? The bit about the difficulties of being a Lions supporter? 😉

  • Comment 76, posted at 02.02.11 11:43:07 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 75) : I can always count on you for a good repost. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 77, posted at 02.02.11 11:45:12 by Whindy Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 76) : We dont need any chirps from the peanut Gallery 😈 😛

  • Comment 78, posted at 02.02.11 11:46:29 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 77) : doig my best 😆

  • Comment 79, posted at 02.02.11 12:13:13 by rekinek Reply
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  • Afternoon everyone :mrgreen:

    OH well what can we say Black and White is all that matters 🙂

    well like i said it did come back to bight us in a big way :oops:, and so the Lions are in heavan so what its the begining of the year and its only warm up games lets look and get worried when the real fun begins and my guess is Sharks will be up in front.

    Where were the lions when they lost their 1st game, its their 2nd and our first so what give it time Sharks old trick in the book is that that they do there bit of drowning in the begining and swim later, and that is when they are very dangerously so beware Jaws is still around and waiting for the pick

    :mrgreen: GO SHARKS GO :mrgreen:

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