Shaz

Give up, already… we’re kak!


Written by Sharon van Wyk (Shaz)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 22 Feb 2011 at 06:15
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Bash: Informal. Verb [with object]: strike hard and violently; to fiercely criticize or oppose [see www.sharksworld.co.za]

Hello everyone. As some of you may be aware, I am a newcomer to Sharksworld. And I am feeling somewhat perturbed after the Boys in Black and White failed to secure a four-try bonus point in Saturday’s run against their bogey side, the Cheetahs.

I have to face it. The Sharks do not have a hope in hell of winning anything this year. Our backline is kak. Lambie can’t kick for kak. Stefan Terblanche is kak. It’s all gone for a ball of kak.

There was no excuse for Saturday’s dismal performance, after all. The conditions may not have been what some would consider optimal, but surely professional rugby players can catch wet balls? (I mean, really, aren’t their balls wet all the time from all that running around trying to look energetic?) We sucked. Big time. And don’t let anyone tell you that a 15-point win can cover it up. Those four points on the log mean nothing because we know the Cheetahs outclassed us in every aspect of their game.

I personally think we should take the coming weekend off and give the Blues a walk-over because I don’t think I can bear to watch another drubbing at the hands of a far better opposition… It’s just all too much for me…

For those of you who have just joined me, let me now remove my tongue from my cheek and explain myself… The preceding paragraphs are an example of what is, perhaps, the lowest form of wit – sarcasm. I happen to love sarcasm because it so eloquently illustrates the point I am trying to make here, which just so happens to be encapsulated by the words at the very top of this tome, lifted rather judiciously from the Oxford English Dictionary. (Yes, for those of you scratching your heads and getting splinters, I am referring to the definition of the word “bash” which acts as the preamble to my ponderings here on our beloved Sharksworld.)

Now I am going to hazard a guess that there will be those among you, dear Sharksworlders, who fail to appreciate the irony in my opening barrage. I am also going to stick a pin where the proverbial donkey’s tail should be and assume that those who fail to do so are prone to throwing their toys when the Sharks, um, win?

Ah yes, I see we are all on the same page, at last. And well done to the latecomers for catching up so fast. Now, forgive me for being a little obvious, but isn’t the point of rugby winning? I very much doubt whether teams take to the field with the sole intention of losing? After all, there are no Pakistani bookies involved here, are there? Right? OK then. So might I ask a somewhat impertinent question to those who have so vociferously written off the Sharks management, coaching staff, frontline, midfield, backline, chap who mows the pitch, oke who takes the ticket stubs at the gate and weather forecaster since Saturdays V I C T O R Y. (I spelled it out because I have my doubts whether some of my compatriots on this site actually watched the game…) And for those of you who have trouble spelling, VICTORY means win. As in the opposite of lose.

I will concede, as did Terblanche in his WINNER’s speech, that the game was not a prime example of professional rugby at its finest, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist, MIT graduate or neuro surgeon to work out that win = good. And if you don’t believe me, just ask Joel Stransky, because I have a feeling he’ll back me up on that one. So, having won the match, put the points on the log and added a notch to a very tall bedpost, why do some feel the need to dissect the match down to the neuron level and diss as many players as possible in the process?

Guys, and guyettes, what does your team have to do to win your support, if not by winning their matches? Does SuperPat have to kick 100% every time, never drop a ball in hand, walk on water, cure the sick and bless newborns while passing immaculately and scoring tries on his day off? Does Stefan have to prove to us all over again that he’s more than capable of leading his team to victory when asked to step in and do so because so many have evidently forgotten who got us onto the podium last October? Do Bismarck and the boys up front have to part the Red Sea every five minutes and use the Force to render the opposition’s defence useless so that our dashing midfielders can waltz, arm in arm over the try line?

There’s a fine line between constructive criticism and plain old bashing, and it’s a line that’s been well and truly crossed in the past 24 hours. All of which is a sad indication, methinks, of how little joy there is in some people’s lives.

Come on, peeps. Lighten up. It’s just a game. And so far one we’re winning…


83 Comments

  • Nicely done. Made me laugh early in the morning.

  • Comment 1, posted at 22.02.11 06:38:27 by lostfish Reply
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  • Finally, some sense!! Well done! I have been trying, since Saturday, to get what you have said into the heads of Sharks “lovers” and haters.

    Given the circumstances/weather conditions, and the fact that it was our first game of SupeRugby, I thought we performed just about perfectly! Yes, some things to work on…but which team on which day, does not have things they would like to improve on…when you stop trying to improve all aspects of your game, then you stop trying to be the absolute best you can be.

    The boys did us and themselves proud – why don’t we for a change do them proud and give them the unconditional support they deserve!

  • Comment 2, posted at 22.02.11 06:54:01 by AlienArmy Reply

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  • Well written and well said Sharon.

    Even if our boys parted the seas, used the force, walked on water and levitated across the line, there unfortunately are still those of us (and I shudder when I use the term “us”) who will not be happy unless they are bitching about what we achieved and the way we went about achieving it.

  • Comment 3, posted at 22.02.11 06:55:04 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • You sure have a way with words!!

  • Comment 4, posted at 22.02.11 06:55:39 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Well written. Hahahaha.

  • Comment 5, posted at 22.02.11 06:58:05 by Speed7 Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) :
    Oh and I take solace in the fact that when we do actually lose a game the sourpusses will be SO sour that they won’t bother complaining anymore.

  • Comment 6, posted at 22.02.11 07:00:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) :

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 22.02.11 07:02:05 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 4) : It seems Sharon has done this once or twice before. 🙂

  • Comment 8, posted at 22.02.11 07:02:07 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 8) :

    If only a dutchboy like myself can write like this once in his life!?

  • Comment 9, posted at 22.02.11 07:02:42 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 9) : And I had to look up the meaning of “solace” to make sure I was using it correctly. 😉

  • Comment 10, posted at 22.02.11 07:06:16 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • What a mouthfull 😀 I love to use sarcasm myself. But only to state the obvious.

  • Comment 11, posted at 22.02.11 07:19:10 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • On an unrelated note…I saw this morning on gallo images that Tian Meyer was back practicing with the Sharks again yesterday…? Anybody have some info about that?

  • Comment 12, posted at 22.02.11 07:20:51 by AlienArmy Reply

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  • Masterpiece Shaz! Had an awsome chuckle!

  • Comment 13, posted at 22.02.11 07:39:09 by Ice Reply
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  • This all-pervasive negative attitude has me so riled up I feel like copying and pasting my post from one of the other threads, just to vent some spleen again. But anyway, while I’m still full of vim and vitriol, let me comment on something I forgot to tackle in my other entry.

    This whole kill yr. idols/build-em-up-to-tear-em-down attitude towards our captains has to stop immediately. While I am by no means convinced that Saturday saw as poor a display of captaincy as some have postulated, let’s for the sake of the argument accept that it was. To which I say “so what?”. Many of history’s most famous leaders made poor decisions – Carthage’s greatest general, Hannibal, had his ass handed to him comprehensively on numerous ocassions before embarking on the “crossing the Alps on elephants” schtick and coming within a hair’s whisker of toppling the Roman empire. More recently, the Americans had their heinies kicked six ways from Sunday in Vietnam before the top dog saw the light and sent in John Rambo to sort out those slanty-eyed bastards single-handedly (it’s true, look it up in the history books). The point I’m trying to (rather long-windedly) make is that we all have off-days. But one poor diplay does not make for a crap captain. We don’t expect players to perform at the same level 100% of the time, so why can’t we cut our captain’s some slack?

  • Comment 14, posted at 22.02.11 07:42:51 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @ Sharon: Have to agree…. Its like slating the boks for winning the 2007 WC Final just on penalties…. 😕 😕
    Last year this time we would’ve taken a win against the Cheeters with 1 point! GO SHARKS!!!!

  • Comment 15, posted at 22.02.11 07:49:59 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • I had a teacher who used to say: ‘Sarcasm is the weapon of the weak’, and ‘Sarcasm is the last stutterings of a rotting brain’.
    🙂 I like this article.

  • Comment 16, posted at 22.02.11 08:00:17 by Crock Reply

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  • Alien army Mike Greenway sais in the Mercury tha Mc Leod is sore but should play on Sat if not Conrad Hoffman will start with Tiaan Meyer on the bench.

    KSAAnd others just because some of us are not the happy clappy supporters, and are still haunted by seasons past, like 2009 just won CC, instead of improving they last to the Reds and Cheetahs and missed the semis by 1 point, never underestimate our support for The Sharks personally I have missed 2 home matches in 3 years and I stay over 100km from the stadium so I put my money where my mouth is! Also I like Stefan so it want me that criticised him, but it amazes me that there are Holy cows on this site ccause. Not so long ago it was open season on Bissie and no outrage was shown then, what is the difference?

  • Comment 17, posted at 22.02.11 08:02:48 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • I think it’s great that fans are letting their feeling be known. There’s no point bottling these emotions up and pretending that we don’t have issues. Plus it gives the counselors here at Sharksworld something to work with or in some cases a just plain opportunity to complain about negative minded fans. 😆
    All power to the Sharks supporters ❗ ❗ ❗
    GO SHARKS! Win in style and shut up all these counselors.

  • Comment 18, posted at 22.02.11 08:07:15 by beet Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 14) : Ah, now, you speak my lingo… Personally I’d take Leonidas over Hannibal and Thermopylae over Cannae, but whether either outstanding general would cut the mustard on America’s Got Talent is anyone’s guess…

  • Comment 19, posted at 22.02.11 08:10:44 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Crock (Comment 16) : Yup, that’s my noggin… Weak as a kitten, rotten to the core… just imagine what I could have achieved in life had I used it properly! Glad you like it… Cheers!

  • Comment 20, posted at 22.02.11 08:17:51 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 17) : Thanks…just disappointing, as we have Cronje and I reckon we should give him a crack if the opportunity arises instead of drafting from outside the ranks

  • Comment 21, posted at 22.02.11 08:21:10 by AlienArmy Reply

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  • I agree with tou there for Cronje’s sake but for Sharks I would rather they left him in the Sharks XV it would be great to win SR and Vodacom cup 😳

  • Comment 22, posted at 22.02.11 08:28:41 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Wheres Trytime now? Come on trytime, come out and comment on this one. Please.

  • Comment 23, posted at 22.02.11 08:29:38 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 20) : I’ve been looking forward to your first article( I knew it would happen at some stage) and I have not been disappointed. Great work.

  • Comment 24, posted at 22.02.11 08:30:48 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 17) : The Difference is that we were at the time giving Bissie stick because he was ill disciplined and being penalised for off the ball stuff.

    THAT was not perception it was fact.

    There are guys out there who have a pet hate of our Captain for various reasons and are looking for ways to badmouth him at every oppertunity possible, even after we have just recorded the 2nd biggest victory margin of the weekend.

  • Comment 25, posted at 22.02.11 08:35:11 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • nice article…seems some people come on here just to bash some of the players…on another note i heard the our varsity shield side the impi,s won 39-38 ….not sure who they played but they had not lost till last night…well done boys

  • Comment 26, posted at 22.02.11 08:36:31 by stevo Reply

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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 23) : No please!!!!

    let’s keep it happy go lucky today, we had enough of the doom and gloom yesterday. 🙂

  • Comment 27, posted at 22.02.11 08:37:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 27) : Ok fair enough. Maybe Trytime got a cuddle from his mummy last night and is feeling better about the world today. Go Sharks!!

  • Comment 28, posted at 22.02.11 08:41:45 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 28) : 🙂

  • Comment 29, posted at 22.02.11 08:45:20 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Oh okai missed yesterdays except for early morning. Thought everyone upset ’cause some of us dared to state we did not enjoy the game – loved the win though!

  • Comment 30, posted at 22.02.11 08:46:35 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • thank sharon,not just for the entertaining artical but also for saying what most of us wish we had the words for.so where did trytime dissapear too ?

  • Comment 31, posted at 22.02.11 08:49:18 by juba_fan Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 30) : I dont think anyone was upset by your comments about not enjoying the game. As a spectacle, it was highly forgettable and Im definitely not rushing out to watch highlights. I think we were more flabbergasted by the doom and gloom by some posters despite the fact the sharks had won under trying conditions. In fact we should be happy, many teams dont adjust to conditions. The sharks showed they could win in poor weather and hopefully they can build on the CC to show they can win pretty in good conditions.

  • Comment 32, posted at 22.02.11 08:51:32 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • On a different note.. hope all our New Zealand colleagues are ok after the earthquake in Christchurch.

  • Comment 33, posted at 22.02.11 08:53:42 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 32) : 100% correct.

  • Comment 34, posted at 22.02.11 08:55:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • John Rambo is real? 😯 What about Chuck Norris? 😛

  • Comment 35, posted at 22.02.11 08:58:53 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 35) : If it smells like chicken and tastes like chicken and Chuck Norris says its beef, its f$%king beef!!

  • Comment 36, posted at 22.02.11 09:05:29 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Chuck Norris wears Willem Alberts undies!

  • Comment 37, posted at 22.02.11 09:10:07 by Pokkel Reply
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  • the officials for this weekends game

    Sharks vs Blues in Durban
    Referee: Jaco Peyper (South Africa)
    Assistant referees: Stuart Berry (South Africa), Reuben Rossouw (South Africa)
    Television match official: Johann Meuwesen (South Africa)

  • Comment 38, posted at 22.02.11 09:13:59 by stevo Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 37) : Willem Alberts can divide by zero.

  • Comment 39, posted at 22.02.11 09:15:45 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 19) : Leonidas wouldn’t make it on AGT; far too serious to win over the crowds. But Hannibal, a military man with a touch of whimsy in the form of trained elephants, would definitely be in with a shout!

  • Comment 40, posted at 22.02.11 09:17:10 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Nice article Sharon.

    The very subject a few of us spoke about on another thread on Sunday.

    Our Sharks played in the worst conditions on Saturday and won. In those conditions players don’t think about a bonus point, but rather just looking to win.

  • Comment 41, posted at 22.02.11 09:27:26 by Puma Reply

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  • Good read 🙂 I enjoyed that 😀
    True a win is a win but the boys need to try get bonus points where they can. Sat was the ideal opp ,having scored after two minutes i thought here we go 🙄 then what hapend ?? By that math we should have scored 40 times during the game lol ,I dont think we used our rugby smarts -those penalties should have gone straight into the corners and we should have tried and tried and tried to just get push over tries- even get the whole bacline in there! Win is a win

  • Comment 42, posted at 22.02.11 09:28:13 by Talent Reply
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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 36) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 43, posted at 22.02.11 09:29:58 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 32) : Agree 100% Pablo.

    Why all the moaning cause we won is just crazy man, we won in the most atrocious conditions. Just get behind our team and support them no matter what.

  • Comment 44, posted at 22.02.11 09:30:59 by Puma Reply

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  • Very nicely written; some folks expectations are unrealistic, and do in fact seek superhuman performances… I for one am happy that we kicked off the campaign with a win, and have stated a few times that I am quietly confident about our chances.

  • Comment 45, posted at 22.02.11 09:37:20 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 44) : Absolutely. Again, it took the Sharks four games last year to get this many log points!! They also picked up a pretty handy points difference boost which shouldnt be overlooked. Even Chuck Norris would be happy!

  • Comment 46, posted at 22.02.11 09:39:33 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Culling Song: the American defeat in vietnam wasnot a military one,but rather a political one..

  • Comment 47, posted at 22.02.11 09:42:26 by bergshark Reply

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  • Bit too much use of a certain word in the opening few lines and headline..disappointed in that.. 🙁

  • Comment 48, posted at 22.02.11 09:44:23 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 48) : She never said Earl Rose did she??????

  • Comment 49, posted at 22.02.11 09:46:12 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • great stuf guylette, just one thing left out, we did all that and looked good, man i must say we are the best dressed rugby team in the comp.

  • Comment 50, posted at 22.02.11 10:10:12 by franshark Reply
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  • @ Franshark – for sure!! 😀

  • Comment 51, posted at 22.02.11 10:29:14 by Ice Reply
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  • oh ja, and, “its just a game” is what losers say after the have lost. Rugby, aspecialy Sharks rugby is more, much more than just a game.

  • Comment 52, posted at 22.02.11 10:30:23 by franshark Reply
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  • great one and congrats for the 1st post to but i do agree we wern’t good at all and could of done better but give our guys a break thats what most of us said when we lost our 1st game to the cheets but went on and won the CC 2010 i still think we can make it 🙂

  • Comment 53, posted at 22.02.11 10:51:35 by chaz Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 48) : Thought it was just me who felt that way…. 😐

  • Comment 54, posted at 22.02.11 11:26:12 by diablo Reply

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  • Well written, and thought through Sharon!

    @Talent (Comment 42) :
    Unfortunately for you, but fortunately for the fans….rugby is not a mathematical equation 😉

  • Comment 55, posted at 22.02.11 11:56:25 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 48) AND
    : @diablo (Comment 54) :

    I think Sharon was trying to make the point that THAT WORD was used far to often on the blog after the game……a word that could be substituted for a more acceptable one. 😀

  • Comment 56, posted at 22.02.11 11:59:05 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 56) : I realised that, but, imho, think it is one of the more grating Afr expletives 😕 :mrgreen: But, to each his own…. 😛

  • Comment 57, posted at 22.02.11 12:13:16 by diablo Reply

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  • @diablo (Comment 57) : I agree with you, and it is being use tooooo often on this site, and by some who should know a lot better…if an administrator finds it fit to use…the blogger will follow suite.
    I just hope they don’t, now, chose to use the English equivalent 🙄

  • Comment 58, posted at 22.02.11 12:19:59 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 55) : “….rugby is not a mathematical equation” submitted by…. me squared. 😆 😀 😎

  • Comment 59, posted at 22.02.11 12:30:52 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid: 🙂 lol

  • Comment 60, posted at 22.02.11 12:36:09 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 59) : 😀

  • Comment 61, posted at 22.02.11 12:38:03 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 56) : Congratulations on getting the point, and for sharing it with those who evidently didn’t. You may have noticed that I actually love words? And especially ones with more than one syllable? I therefore try to keep expletives and colloquialism to a minimum in an attempt to use the English language to its maximum potential to drive my point home. In this instance I was playing to the cheap seats and not the gallery… and, as you so rightly pointed out, paraphrasing the delinquent element of Sharksworld in the process… Glad we’ve cleared that one up, or I’d be in the faeces.

  • Comment 62, posted at 22.02.11 13:22:48 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • Read the first couple of paragraphs and nearly closed the window… glad I read all the way to the end lol… 🙂

    Good article!

  • Comment 63, posted at 22.02.11 13:24:42 by Nhumrod Reply

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  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 😆

  • Comment 64, posted at 22.02.11 13:26:01 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 50) : Remiss of me, franshark. We did, indeed, look like gods among mere mortals. And definitely won the wet T-shirt competition by a mile.

  • Comment 65, posted at 22.02.11 13:30:07 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 65) : Congrats on a great arti shaz! You’ve got the goods. Hope you stick around

  • Comment 66, posted at 22.02.11 13:37:22 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 66) : Cheers Ben… I plan to! 😀

  • Comment 67, posted at 22.02.11 13:45:08 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 67) : Great stuff!

  • Comment 68, posted at 22.02.11 13:48:29 by Ben Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 52) : Yes, sure it is more than just a game, but we are a fickle fan (The Sharks), we build up and breakdown our team far too often instead of sticking by them through thick and thin – I am not saying you, I am referring to us a collective – for example last year during the Super 14 we were calling for Plum to be axed and for “Oupa” to be dropped, we were angry that Plum signed a contract extension… We turned our game around and then we backed them all the way from a resurgent S14 to Currie Champs, then get angry when we win our first game of the season in a hard fought scrappy manner…

    More realism, more unconditional support, MORE SHARKS FOREVER!

  • Comment 69, posted at 22.02.11 14:03:01 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 69) : Halleluja!, Brother!! 😀

  • Comment 70, posted at 22.02.11 14:09:28 by Ice Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 67) : Sorry Sharron, this is a bit longwinded.
    Sharksworld has presented our squad as possible S/R winners for a while now. At the same time we’ve been reminded what a poorly run organisation the Cheetahs are. I’m willing to believe that if the Sharks play the same miserable brand of rugby, make the same mistakes and beat the Blues by a single pt this weekend, far fewer people will be unhappy. We would have beaten the team that beat the Crusaders. It’s partly about mindset.
    This is but 1 possible reason to explain the way we are. Sharks fans even Bok fans have been like this for years and will continue to be this way in my view. Have you considered writing about the factors that contribute to our way of thinking and how it can be changed other than by using sarcasm.?
    One of my gripes is that we accept 2nd best from our commentators and TV shows. Instead of making use of this opportunity to inform and education the public, TV gives us some former player who struggles to a) express himself in his 2nd language and to b) pass on any valuable technical knowledge. Honestly I learn more from 1 episode of Reunion and 1 game with Stuart Barnes then I’d learn from Cobus Wiese and co. in a whole season. With the exception of 1 or 2 good SA presenters/commentators, this is an area in dire need of improvement IMO. I believe that a better rugby education would result in a more reasonably minded and hopefully more optimistic fan.
    Admittedly I’m not a person who’s that great an interested in psychology but would be interested to hear views on this topic. What makes the typical fan react the way he/she has these last few days?

  • Comment 71, posted at 22.02.11 14:12:47 by beet Reply
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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 69) : Hmmmm, Im not so sure about the unconditional support. I support the Sharks through thick and thin, but not unconditionally. When the Sharks were going through the dire era of Kevin Putt, my support was with them, but conditional on their desire to pull themselves out of the sewer. Dont get me wrong, I dont lose interest when the Sharks dont win. I lose interest when management do stupid things that affect team moral and future prospects. As fans we have the right to expect management to facilitate success and players to play for the jersey, even if it doesnt always translate into on the field results.

  • Comment 72, posted at 22.02.11 14:20:56 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @beet: agree,reunion seem to pack in more info than boots n all,superrugby and all out rugby combined.

  • Comment 73, posted at 22.02.11 14:22:47 by bergshark Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 71) : @bergshark (Comment 73) : Naas Botha is the only one I can think of that has some fair rugby knowledge. The rest are just a waist of listening too!

  • Comment 74, posted at 22.02.11 14:27:18 by Ben Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 71) : Interesting comment, beet, and worthy of some apres Chuck consideration this evening, methinks. Morne and I have touched on the topic of psychology from the point of the players, and Michael Marnewick’s book “Quest for Glory…” on recent threads, but haven’t really looked at the fan psychology aspect (although Michael addresses it in his book).
    I am sure there are a myriad factors which affect a fan’s pre and post-match mood, and the lack of “quality” television commentary is surely one of them. It is an indication of the “dumbing down” that popular television has fallen prey to in the past few years in that there is very little actual expert opinion shared, and shared eloquently, any more. This sad state of affairs pervades most genres of actuality programming, not just sport. Take natural history, my speciality, for example. I grew up with Sir David Attenborough telling me the finer points of gorilla behaviour… I now get wet-behind-the-ear idiots with perpendicular hair cuts and nose rings telling me how “awesome” everything is.
    In media, as in most things in life, entertainment has become the buzz word and information is on the brink of extinction as a result. However, I do believe there is an area of middle ground that is not being properly exploited… in other words you can have info and entertainment in one package.
    I also think that social media like the one we are “chatting” on provide keys to the future hybridisation of those two key elements.
    “Watch this space,” as they say…

  • Comment 75, posted at 22.02.11 14:50:51 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 75) :

    ‘I now get wet-behind-the-ear idiots with perpendicular hair cuts and nose rings telling me how “awesome” everything is.’
    Hahahaha…..Very true

  • Comment 76, posted at 22.02.11 15:58:18 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 69) : Much as it irks me to say anything complimentary about the Bulls, I have to say that their fan base takes loyalty to fanatical extremes. When the Bulls are winning a game, they cheer like mad. When they are losing, people at Loftus don’t stop cheering, but rather attempt to lift the players’ spirits. At all other unions, fans start booing or leaving early. Of course, this is a gross generlisation, but I stand by the observation.

  • Comment 77, posted at 22.02.11 16:22:31 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 77) : When the Bulls start losing Loftus goes empty fast.

    Just go back a few seasons when the Bulls were rubbish, thousands of empty seats at Loftus.

  • Comment 78, posted at 22.02.11 16:25:11 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 78) : Maybe when they’ve been losing consistently for a long time. But over the last few years, when they have been on the losing side in individual games, their fans have stayed put.

  • Comment 79, posted at 22.02.11 16:37:36 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 79) : That’s probably cause they’re too drunk to move. 😈 😉

  • Comment 80, posted at 22.02.11 16:43:56 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 80) : Or CS too drunk to realise? :LOL:

    I have been to Loftus in the past 3-4 yrs, and still manage to see it on occasion…the best was always visiting their site after a loss – good chuckle over the fighting…amongst themselves!

  • Comment 81, posted at 22.02.11 17:50:10 by Ice Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 80) : Classical comment dude! But some truth to it!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 82, posted at 22.02.11 18:05:49 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 81) : Absolutely. I was (mis)fortunate enough to attend Loftus regularly till last season as the dearly departed ex had shares in a “losie” and I can vouch for the in-fighting and general dikbek boere when the Bulls landed with their bums in the doo-doo. I’ve seen nartjies, bottles of Richlieu, security guards and even rather well rounded vrouens thrown onto the pitch in disgust…

  • Comment 83, posted at 22.02.11 20:56:54 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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