Richard Ferguson

Sharks v Cheetahs: By the numbers


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Cheetahs, Original Content, Sharks on 22 Feb 2011 at 15:12
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In the aftermath to the Sharks victory over the Cheetahs on Saturday night, we can have a look at the stats from the game. Thanx must go to Ruggastats for the use of their information.

First up we can look at the tackle stats. The Sharks attempted 61 tackles, completing 56 of these and missing 5. That’s a completion rate of 92%, a stat that will be tested in the coming weekend. To be successful the Sharks will have to keep this percentage in the nineties. The best of the tacklers were Lambie, with 7 tackles and no misses, and Alberts, who was also our worst, with 9 attempts 2 misses and 7 completes.

With the wet weather conditions we don’t expect the handling stats to look too fantastic, but with 24 errors from 214 ball handle, an 11% mistake rate in the rain and humidity is not that bad. Of the 24 handle errors, our worst offender was expectedly Charl McLeod with 5 knocks. Next worst was JL Potgieter, who somehow managed 3 in his 12 minutes on the park.

At the breakdown, the Sharks were completely dominant, with our forwards hitting twice the amount of rucks the Cheetahs managed. The best of the lot was the Beast, who hit 24 attacking and 1 defensive rucks on the night, and Sykes who hit 22 attacking and 3 defensive rucks, who each got to a total of 25. Hargreaves wasn’t far behind with a total of 21 rucks. The best of the backs was Meyer Bosman with 18 rucks in total.

As mentioned earlier, the Sharks handled the ball 214 times on the night, with McLeod and Lambie having their usual fair share of that, the next best ball carriers were, not surprisingly, Willem Alberts with a massive 18 and Alistair Hargreaves with 14, beating out our backline. The best of the backline besides the halfbacks was Louis Ludik, who was taking in all the Cheetahs kicks with 12 handles.

The meters gained stats always fascinate me. Again it is not surprising to see Willem Alberts topping the list with 86 meters on the night. Odwa Ndungane came in second with 42 meters gained and was the only player to get a linebreak on the night.


85 Comments

  • Hey Richard, do you have Kanko’s hitting the rucks at breakdown stats?

  • Comment 1, posted at 22.02.11 15:17:08 by beet Reply
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  • If we want to win against the Blues their tackle stats against us will have to read something like Attempted: 135 Made: 112 Missed: 23. If it’s the other way around that last number will be the number of beers needed to drown our sorrows.

  • Comment 2, posted at 22.02.11 15:26:26 by rhineshark Reply
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  • I hope we have good weather this weekend.

  • Comment 3, posted at 22.02.11 15:26:38 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Yep; loose forwards to dominate ball carries this season. Last Super season was Deysel, this season the work load will be shared, Deysel also had the most counter rucks last season. I am impressed with Meyer Bosman, he really was a smart purchase – a complete player. Kudos to Odwa, such a reliable player.

  • Comment 4, posted at 22.02.11 15:26:49 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 1) :

    Kankowski: 12 rucks in total, 11 on attack, 1 on defence

  • Comment 5, posted at 22.02.11 15:28:02 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 2) : I remain confident of beating the Blues, they are not often successful @ KINGS PARK – I think the oppressive humidity will also get to them… Sharks to win by 7-12 at least.

  • Comment 6, posted at 22.02.11 15:28:26 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • Blues attempted 97 tackles, missing 12..

    88% success rate..

  • Comment 7, posted at 22.02.11 15:29:59 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 5) : Kanko is proving to be a man for all occasions, a massive asset… Got to love the Hoff…

  • Comment 8, posted at 22.02.11 15:30:05 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • Daniel Braid is our biggest danger..

    The man hit 34 rucks against the Crusaders..

  • Comment 9, posted at 22.02.11 15:31:10 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Anybody want to fancy a guess at how many line breaks the Blues had this weekend?

  • Comment 10, posted at 22.02.11 15:32:03 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 9) : a Guy like Bismark or Sykes to counter him, with Alberts and Beast on pillar defence…

  • Comment 11, posted at 22.02.11 15:32:28 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • Interesting that with the terrible conditions we only had a 11% mistake rate.

    These stats may add substance to what try time and Beet were on about yesterday – pushing for the bonus point win. Interesting. 😈

  • Comment 12, posted at 22.02.11 15:41:15 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 10) : I don’t want to hear

  • Comment 13, posted at 22.02.11 15:41:28 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 10) : 12?

  • Comment 14, posted at 22.02.11 15:45:05 by Ben Reply
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  • Meyer Bosman looking for a spot in our flankers? 🙂

  • Comment 15, posted at 22.02.11 15:46:12 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 14) :

    Close.. 13..

  • Comment 16, posted at 22.02.11 15:46:17 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • How many handling errors in a game of rugby league? let’s say in the arl..

  • Comment 17, posted at 22.02.11 15:47:25 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 16) : We have to keep a close eye on Rene Ranger

  • Comment 18, posted at 22.02.11 15:47:45 by Ben Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 10) : The Lions had 12 line breaks with Kamana, Mapoe and Bezuidenhout all with 2 each.

  • Comment 19, posted at 22.02.11 15:49:03 by Danman110 Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 18) :

    Ranger had 2 line breaks and gained 129 meters vs the Saders

  • Comment 20, posted at 22.02.11 15:49:39 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Danman110 (Comment 19) :

    Thats quite interesting.. I havent seen the Bulls/Lions stats yet.. I will study them a bit later in the week..

  • Comment 21, posted at 22.02.11 15:51:28 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 20) : He’s a danger man. But JPP should be able to shut him down.

  • Comment 22, posted at 22.02.11 15:51:40 by Ben Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 21) : Kamana is very dangerous he had 2 line breaks and gained 158 Meters.

  • Comment 23, posted at 22.02.11 15:55:08 by Danman110 Reply

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  • @Danman110 (Comment 23) :

    Thats what we need from South African wingers!!

  • Comment 24, posted at 22.02.11 15:56:20 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Danman110 (Comment 23) : That’s very impressive!

  • Comment 25, posted at 22.02.11 15:58:53 by Ben Reply
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  • @Danman110 (Comment 23) : @Richard Ferguson (Comment 24) : What stood out for me about Mapoe in that 2nd half was the amount of tackles he broke out of.

  • Comment 26, posted at 22.02.11 16:01:55 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 18) : If we gain parity over their forwards, the backs will not gain quality possession… But yes, that said, he is dangerous on the counter, but I think we have the right gameplan to take it to them… We have beaten them more in recent times than we have lost, especially at The Tank… We pose a formidable threat to them…
    Player for player we have a better team. Jerome Kaino, Daniel Braid, Stephen Brett and Ranger are their cannons, with ol’ Kevin the anchor… Ali Williams is not the player he used to be and will be nursing his Achilles throughout… I back The Sharks whole heartedly…

  • Comment 27, posted at 22.02.11 16:02:28 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 24) : Just a pity he’s a Kiwi. But he’s a very good attacking fullback something I feel the Sharks team is lacking.

  • Comment 28, posted at 22.02.11 16:04:03 by Danman110 Reply

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  • @Danman110 (Comment 28) : Louis Ludik is a fantastic rugby player, he is solid and he can get into space… He may not be a gamebreaker, but with his running lines he creates space and opportunity for his supporting players, and we base our game on momentum, and he makes sure he gets momentum going…

  • Comment 29, posted at 22.02.11 16:06:29 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 26) : Yes he is a very slippery character but a good hit form Big Vic should put him in his place.

  • Comment 30, posted at 22.02.11 16:08:11 by Danman110 Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 27) : Without sounding overly confident I’m sure we will beat them.

  • Comment 31, posted at 22.02.11 16:09:47 by Ben Reply
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  • @Danman110 (Comment 30) : Especially after how well we treated him on his retreat… I don’t like Mapoe purely from a character point of view. He is spineless… Him or his agent – whatever – terrible ethics…

  • Comment 32, posted at 22.02.11 16:10:30 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @Danman110 comment 30 – and I just cannot wait to see that – a moment to savor 👿

  • Comment 33, posted at 22.02.11 16:10:57 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Danman110 (Comment 30) : Or maybe just give Mvovs the ball and let him run over Mapoe. Should also shut him up.

  • Comment 34, posted at 22.02.11 16:11:23 by Ben Reply
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  • I kno this is off the topic but wat will happen to odwa wen jpp comes back? Odwa has been the sharks most consistent player and never has a bad game. How will plumtree justify leaving him out should he pick jpp before odwa

  • Comment 35, posted at 22.02.11 16:12:41 by sharkbok Reply

     
  • @Ben (Comment 31) : For sure, nothing wrong with backing our men… I think we will prove too much for them, not even bias on that… I will be very surprised if we lose…

  • Comment 36, posted at 22.02.11 16:13:37 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @sharkbok (Comment 35) : JPP will certainly be picked and odwa will go to the bench.

  • Comment 37, posted at 22.02.11 16:14:37 by Ben Reply
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  • @sharkbok (Comment 35) : Odwa on the bench for Adi hopefully… But I agree, Odwa is a consistent player, which is why he needs to be in the match day 22… JPP is more explosive, the only reason I too would sneak him ahead of Odwa…

  • Comment 38, posted at 22.02.11 16:15:08 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @darkdestroyer, oh I am sure he will be on a couple of our players radar alright, I’m sure The Dups will not let him go without a “little hello” 😉

  • Comment 39, posted at 22.02.11 16:15:27 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 36) : Only mistakes can cost us the game.

  • Comment 40, posted at 22.02.11 16:15:53 by Ben Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 39) : Yep… Some aggressive man handling of him would be in order (within the rules of course)…

  • Comment 41, posted at 22.02.11 16:17:19 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • Kicks by the Sharks

    Lambie 20
    Mcleod 5
    Terblanche 3
    Ludik 3
    Bosman 2
    Ndungane 1

  • Comment 42, posted at 22.02.11 16:18:29 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 39) : Maybe a little bit of using his head to stand up of the ground! 🙂

  • Comment 43, posted at 22.02.11 16:18:31 by Ben Reply
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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 29) : Louis Ludik is a very well rounded fullback I agree, and his defense is great I still remember the hit on Schalk in the CC final.But an attacking fullback to put on in the second half can break a game open as Kamana did for the Lions.I believe the Sharks are well covered at the back with Odwa and Ludik.

  • Comment 44, posted at 22.02.11 16:18:52 by Danman110 Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 40) : Yep, I can foresee The Blues trying their natural game and falling short, if we can man up on defence and gain momentum on attack the game is for the taking, yep, so only we can lose the game…

  • Comment 45, posted at 22.02.11 16:18:52 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer of course 😈

  • Comment 46, posted at 22.02.11 16:18:59 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Ben well how could he have seen his head was there Bissie was going for the ball

  • Comment 47, posted at 22.02.11 16:22:40 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Danman110 (Comment 44) : Yes, can’t argue there, Kamana really made an impact on the game, Jaco Taute is no slouch and Kamana as a matter of fact made him look ordinary… But with our gameplan we look rounded, we play with momentum and support runners and our team ticks accordingly…

  • Comment 48, posted at 22.02.11 16:23:32 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @Danman110 (Comment 44) : @DarkDestroyer (Comment 48) : I agree here. Louis Ludik is a awesome fullback for the sharks game plan. Solid in all parts of his game and oh geez that guy always runs at full tilt into a tackle.

  • Comment 49, posted at 22.02.11 16:25:59 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 34) : I was really hoping that would happen to Phillp Burger I really hate his try scoring antics.

  • Comment 50, posted at 22.02.11 16:26:12 by Danman110 Reply

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  • @Danman110 (Comment 50) : I’ve always disliked that guy his attitude stinks!

  • Comment 51, posted at 22.02.11 16:27:40 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 51) : There will be someone to collect his bones, there are a few that come to mind, call me a little sick, but I would love Francois Hougaard to get hit proper… Running into a channel that is guarded by Deysel, Bismarck and Alberts… FANTASTIC!!!

  • Comment 52, posted at 22.02.11 16:29:17 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • Lambie kicked 20 times and gained 807m (40m avg)
    Olivier kicked 16 times and gained 485m (30m avg)

    I thought someone said Lambie couldn’t kick far?

  • Comment 53, posted at 22.02.11 16:29:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 53) : Lambie is WELL on his way to become a total product, he is a great rugby player and rarely does wrong, and even if he does, it is sport and every sportsman makes a mistake in a total game, no one has a scorecard without blemish, but does that really matter? Pat Lambie is a special find and we can count our lucky stars to have him…

  • Comment 54, posted at 22.02.11 16:33:10 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 52) : I would so love to see Alberts breaking Derick Kuun’s ribs in a mean tackle.

  • Comment 55, posted at 22.02.11 16:34:27 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 55) : Apologies to whoever that comment offends.

  • Comment 56, posted at 22.02.11 16:37:11 by Ben Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 53) : @DarkDestroyer (Comment 54) : Thank our lucky stars and pray to the Gods that he stays with the sharks forever! 😉

  • Comment 57, posted at 22.02.11 16:38:38 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 55) : Yep, I am not offended, Kuun is a Pit bull in a sausage dogs body… Overtly aggressive… Loved the cleanout of him from Jannie Dup in the CC semi… Geeze, I don’t like that oke…

  • Comment 58, posted at 22.02.11 16:41:49 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 58) : He’s the player I dislike most in world rugby!

  • Comment 59, posted at 22.02.11 16:47:06 by Ben Reply
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  • Just as a matter of interest.

    Steyn kicked 15 times and gained 656m (43m avg)
    Jantjies kicked 9 times and gained 411m (45m avg)

  • Comment 60, posted at 22.02.11 16:48:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 58) : Don’t think many non-Bulls fans do. 😈

  • Comment 61, posted at 22.02.11 16:50:40 by McLovin Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 60) : Do the stats specify the type of kicks. Asking coz Lambie + Olivier tried some “cute” kicks in attempts to breach the oppo defensive line.
    Also hard to believe that guys at altitude in the dry only kicking a little further than Lambie.

  • Comment 62, posted at 22.02.11 16:53:56 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 62) : did you get my response? ie Johan Jackson?

  • Comment 63, posted at 22.02.11 16:55:50 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 63) : Thanks Ben. I just read it.

  • Comment 64, posted at 22.02.11 17:00:15 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 64) : Sorry I can’t help you but I’d lie if I’d had to tell you as I would be guessing. But like I said it wasn’t really anything special. But he’s very solid. Tried to tackle him once and went for his stomach region. Let’s just say I was left flat on my back!

  • Comment 65, posted at 22.02.11 17:04:09 by Ben Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 62) :

    No it doesn’t

    Have a look here.

    http://ruggastats.com/games.aspx?G=167

  • Comment 66, posted at 22.02.11 17:04:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Ranger definitely a man to watch.
    I gotta say Grant Fox summed up Rene Ranger perfectly on Sat. Something to the tune of for every magical moment he produces (and there was an obvious one on the weekend) there’s an extremely poor one. So yes Ranger with ball in hand is a dangerman but he also coughs the ball up so often that a team alert to counterattacking opportunities can take full advantage of his turnovers.

  • Comment 67, posted at 22.02.11 17:10:53 by beet Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 65) : He looks solid and well balanced. Anyway it was a good story you shared a few weeks ago. We see them all the time. Guys who look like they’re heading for the very top and never get there. Johan’s gotten further than most IMO.

  • Comment 68, posted at 22.02.11 17:14:16 by beet Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 66) : They should add a “tackles broken out of” stat to that. Would be interesting.

  • Comment 69, posted at 22.02.11 17:14:32 by Ben Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 68) : That story was a bit long ago hey, you got the link?

  • Comment 70, posted at 22.02.11 17:16:44 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 70) : No I just remembered it and I’m sure you must have mentioned Johan’s name again last week, prompting me to answer the question.

  • Comment 71, posted at 22.02.11 17:19:32 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 71) : Yeah I asked for who he’s gonna play this season. But didn’t think you read that other story I shared.

  • Comment 72, posted at 22.02.11 17:22:24 by Ben Reply
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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 54) : DarkDestroyer, with comments like that you could easily woo me over to the dark side…

  • Comment 73, posted at 22.02.11 21:07:09 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 60) : Hard to believe, esp Jantjies, who had a truly awful game, IMO.

  • Comment 74, posted at 22.02.11 21:10:00 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 74) : Yeah I agree.

  • Comment 75, posted at 22.02.11 21:22:39 by Ben Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 73) : aaaah yes; I have noticed you are quite the Pat fan… I understand though… Its totally justified…

  • Comment 76, posted at 22.02.11 22:34:07 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 74) : they measured the distance the ball travelled past the posts with his fluffed kicks… Jantjies needs to step up or else vultures could soon be circling in this ruthless savannah that is flyhalf…

  • Comment 77, posted at 22.02.11 22:37:32 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 76) : it think it is our sworn duty, as Sharks fans, to be Pat fans too 🙂

    He’s a once-in-a-generation kind of player

  • Comment 78, posted at 22.02.11 22:38:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 74) : It certainly seems as if Jantjies kept the ball in hand more.

    I suspect when the conditions improve in Dbn Pat will be doing the same.

    As Beet said in Comment 62, Lambie tried more fancy kicks than Jantjies. I suspect Jantjies’ big number come from the fact that all 9 of those kicks were probably clearance kicks.

  • Comment 79, posted at 22.02.11 22:43:58 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 78) : Absolutely!!!

  • Comment 80, posted at 23.02.11 07:20:46 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • Stats do give an idea of what happened but they can be misleading if not considered in the context in which they occurred. For example a guy can hit 30 rucks in a game- but how effective was he at each ruck? A guy can make all his attempted tackles – but does that tackle count include times when guys simply run around him? Likewise kicking metres gained- does that take into account if the opposition catch and run the ball back? Another example is a guy can gain x metres with ball in hand- but if his knock on occur after these metres it paints a different picture. So yes while stats do prove very usefull-they also need to be seen in context of the game.

  • Comment 81, posted at 23.02.11 08:31:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 81) :

    I agree with that wholeheartedly..

    The fact is though that stats available is very limited, it can be broken down so much more detail, but there does not seem to be anybody willing to do that..

  • Comment 82, posted at 23.02.11 09:03:45 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 82) : No argument there. And agree 100% with SheldonK @SheldonK (Comment 81) : in that taken out of context, stats can be more confusing than enlightening. Deconstructing a game to the nth degree would also be a little difficult, methinks, and unless it was an absolutely horrific loss, possibly counterproductive?

  • Comment 83, posted at 23.02.11 10:46:34 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 6): I’m with you there, but what I meant was we won’t beat them if we play defensively. We have to go out there and make sure we keep the ball for long periods, making them defend and forcing them into high-risk rugby when they eventually do get some possession. It was the basis for our CC success last year and I believe it will work in Super Rugby as well.

  • Comment 84, posted at 23.02.11 11:52:39 by rhineshark Reply
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  • You all know my take on stats and over-disecting a game…I watch for pure joy! 😀

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