As a wise man once said

Written by Maria Delport (Letgo)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Springboks, Super 14 on 1 Apr 2011 at 09:03
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In an earlier article, one of our more esteemed and established authors, Morne Nortier made a very interesting point regarding the debate around John Smit and his selection as player and captain for both the Sharks and the Boks. Why can’t we name Smit squad captain, but not necessarily team captain of the match-day 22 if he comes from the bench?

By starting John you take your Captain of the field for the most crucial time of the match. The final 20 minutes. Four years ago Smit was replaced in the final 10 minutes of a match. An important decision was made by a stand-in captain and a young inexperienced player was given the responsibility of a kick that maybe should never have been taken by him and resulted in a tragedy. Would it have happened with Smit on the field? Maybe, but more importantly, maybe not and considering how highly Smit is regarded as a captain, most probably not. So why not keep Smit on the bench as Tighthead, Loosehead, Hooker, experience and Captain?

This way we will have him on the field at the end, fresh and clear thinking, for those tense moments where you really need a captain to keep the team calm and together and make the important last minute decisions.

We have enough leaders to stand in for Smit for the first 40, at the Sharks and the Boks. Keep the man fresh. I believe he could make a huge impact of the bench.

This way you can even bring John on at hooker, a preferred position out of the three he is more than capable of covering. Bismark is a great player, but sometimes, still to passionate on the field. He has matured over the past season or so, but still, in tight situations he tends to overdo it and sometimes gives away penalties. If you think of it in this context, then perhaps Smit is the better option of the two…for the last 20 minutes.

I agree with Morne. Why can’t we name John as our Captain, but play him of the bench. The team will already know when to kick for touch and when to go for posts. These things are discussed and planned before hand. With the Sharks we have Stefan and if he also gets some bench time to make room for Adi, then guys like Keegan, Hargreaves, Botes and even Bissie could step-up to do the job. At the Boks we have many players who have captained their provincial teams and many that has been part of the Bok team since the last World Cup. Juan Smith, Schalk Burger, Victor Matfield, Fourie Du Preez, Jean De Villiers, Jacque Fourie, all very experienced players. Any one of these players could step-up to do the job on field until John Smit arrives to take over in the decisive last minutes.

I guess think out of the box would be the appropriate thing to use here. I urge our coaches to take the advice of the very sensible, very wise Morne Nortier.



  • Agreed, JS needs to be on the field for the last 20 minutes to help us close out the game.

  • Comment 1, posted at 01.04.11 09:07:37 by Original Champion Reply
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  • Whilst it’s a great idea, and completely the correct decision imo… it’s far too “out of the box” for our conservative Bok coaching team, and I’d therefore go as far as saying it will NEVER happen.

  • Comment 2, posted at 01.04.11 10:23:21 by CS Reply

  • Agree totally with you and Morne. We still need John. Even if he is squad captain. His influence on the players is huge. Also think probably his knowledge of the game is better than all 3 Bok coaches. He has to be on the plane to NZ come September. I would never go to the world cup without John. While we still have him WE must use him. Plum will use him no doubt. From the bench or starting some games. At the Sharks we will use him well. It is at the Boks that is a worry. What will PdV do? He will only select his captain on 2nd of May. Does he realise John can be squad captain and not necessary the captain on the field?

    Very good article Letgo. Good to see you back.

  • Comment 3, posted at 01.04.11 10:31:20 by Puma Reply

  • Just my 5c worth.

    People are avoiding the real issue which Morné did touch on in article. The succession of leadership which just isn’t evident at the Sharks and has to an extent has been missing in the Bok setup as well.
    IMO Smit has now become like the once AB captains Todd Blackadder and Reuben Thorne. His place in the national side is no longer based on form but rather on leadership qualities. The Sharks are also trying desperately to find a place for Smit the leader and not Smit the player. Remove the leadership qualities from the equation and despite his wealth of experience, Smit the player is no longer as good as Burden or a few of the props in our wider squad.
    All rugby players get old or pick up injuries along the way. Both factors lead to these players no longer being able to perform anywhere near what they are capable of at the peaks of their careers. I’ve never been a huge Smit fan (not sure why but it doesn’t mean I dislike him or will ever undermine or disrespect the huge contribution he has made) but over the years I’ve seen some of my favourites gradually or suddenly lose that edge that they once had. My best advice is respect and appreciate these players for what they could do on the field when they were in the primes of their careers. Cherish and re-live the memories in your head and relay the stories of their once greatness but don’t ever lose touch with current day reality. Peace.

  • Comment 4, posted at 01.04.11 10:39:45 by beet Reply
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  • imagine the Boks play the All Blacks in the semi final, the All Blacks have carved up the Boks like the Saders did @ Twickenham and the score is 37 – 6, what the hell will John Smit do to help them ‘close out a game’? He can’t get around the park quick enough and always has his mouth gaping sucking air in @ every stop in play…

  • Comment 5, posted at 01.04.11 10:42:33 by Megatron Reply

  • I’m a great believer that great sportsmen should retire while in just past their prime and not when while on a downhill slope because we want to remember them at their best. I do not think that we have time to get another captain before then WC and believe that JS should be heavily involved in the WC and the suggestion that Letgo makes for me is the best possible way to do things IMO.

    I don’t want to remember JS as a player that hung on too long but as the great leader and player that he was.

  • Comment 6, posted at 01.04.11 10:45:31 by Pokkel Reply
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  • The one flaw in the “we need John Smit in the last 20 minutes to close out the game” argument is that it presupposes that we will be in a position to close the game out; i.e. in the lead, or trailing only slightly. So what happens if, like in the Crusaders game, we get a right royal hiding in the first stanza and have a mountain to climb to get back in the game?

    Having said that, I still really like the idea of John as squad captain. Adding to that, I really think it is not neccessary for your best 15 and your starting 15 to be the same, provided you are judicious in the use of your squad. For instance, imagine the havoc Bismarck could wreak if unleashed with only 30 minutes to play, and the opposition players being fatigued?

    Of course, careful thought would have to go into player selection, because you wouldn’t want to create a situation where you have to play catch-up rugby as a result of a weakened starting line-up. So, for instance, you’d play John Smit against teams where scrummaging, rather than winning the ball on the deck is likely to be more critical, or where the opposing team’s openside flanker is not of the Pocock/McCaw pedigree. Or alternatively, start with Botes rather than Daniel to boost your ball-winning abilities.

    These are just a few hypothetical situations, but I do believe there is a lot of room for improvement in terms of our management of squad and utilisation of substitues.

  • Comment 7, posted at 01.04.11 10:45:40 by Culling Song Reply
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  • I agree that JS should be at the RWC for his input especially being there before. But is this not in a way “downgrading” him to a “mascot” from the great player and leader he once was?

  • Comment 8, posted at 01.04.11 11:03:46 by Ice Reply
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  • I wonder what John thinks about all this ? Do we have any contacts via Sharksworld that could ask the man directly?

    I suppose these are things that players only write about in books after they retire… oh hang on, he’s already written his book 🙂

  • Comment 9, posted at 01.04.11 11:06:50 by CS Reply

  • @Ice (Comment 8) : I don’t think so. A players role will change as his career moves on. Smit’s role will be just as important coming of the bench this year as it was starting in 07. And remembering that he must have been a huge mentor to not only Bismark, but many other young players that has come after the Smit era, I would say this would be the best way to end a career.

    He should feel honored that people respect and value his leadership qualities so much that they want him at the world cup. Plus he is still a great player. If Bismark is injured, or one of our props, we would all still be happy to see him in the starting 15.

    It’s just that he is competing with arguably the best hooker in the world at the moment.

  • Comment 10, posted at 01.04.11 11:15:57 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 7) : @Megatron (Comment 5) : I don’t think Bismark alone would make that much of a difference as one man if we are that far behind.

    But if we are really far behind and feel we still need him on the field, just leave john on the bench or put him on as prop replacement.

  • Comment 11, posted at 01.04.11 11:21:04 by Letgo Reply
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  • Play him like Jake played Bob Skinstad at 2007 RWC

  • Comment 12, posted at 01.04.11 11:31:07 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 12) : Good point

  • Comment 13, posted at 01.04.11 11:42:31 by CS Reply

  • @Letgo (Comment 11) : Hmm, I think possibly you misunderstand me. I am not arguing the merits of how much difference one man (be it Bismarck, or Beast, or.., or…) would make. I am saying that the argument of relegating John to the bench because his contribution in the final, critical 20 minutes would be invaluable is a little senseless because that specific scenario could only apply in a small percentage of games. After all, we could be so far ahead, or behind for that matter, that his input would have little effect on the outcome. Or it could be a close game, but with Beast or Bismarck being so influental it would be suicidal to substitute them.

    What I am advocating is a more measured approach; keep John in the squad, appoint him as squad captain, and utilise him in both starting or bench capacity, but with adequate cognisance of his strengths and weaknesses vs. those of the person he replaces, and how that fits into the team make-up, and how it complements the strategy required for a specific opponent.

  • Comment 14, posted at 01.04.11 11:55:07 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 14) : well articulated!

    This whole ‘we need john’ chorus is tired!

    We played a whole eoyt & came from behind against wales without john, we won in dunedin for the first time with john sitting in durban with his wife nursing a groin. The sharks have 2 currie cups without john’s hand anywhere near those campaigns.

  • Comment 15, posted at 01.04.11 12:36:33 by Megatron Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 5) :
    I dont think that the man that can inspire a 31 point turn around against the All Blacks has been born yet, and you want someone to do that in the last 20.

    I really pitty your Eastern Cape team when they start playing Super rugby, your expectations are excessive.

  • Comment 16, posted at 01.04.11 12:47:45 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 16) : hahahahahahaha :mrgreen: isn’t john that ‘miracle maker’? You’d swear the way his choir of sycophants are singing he would pull that off by just showing up on the pitch…

  • Comment 17, posted at 01.04.11 13:12:36 by Megatron Reply

  • I agree with Megatron.

    John is not good enough to start for the Sharks and is therefore not good enough to be selected as captain of the Boks.

    He is past his best and has been since end of 2009.

  • Comment 18, posted at 01.04.11 13:21:45 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 18) : 🙄 Ek dag jy is n Smit fan?

  • Comment 19, posted at 01.04.11 13:35:13 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Is this April’s Fools Joke 😯

  • Comment 20, posted at 01.04.11 13:41:46 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 19) :

    What do you mean??

    So you still think he is good enough to start at 2 for the Boks??

    We all know he isnt good enough so why defend him?? He is a LEGEND and has done a lot for rugby in SA but if he aint good enough he aint good enough!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 01.04.11 14:18:50 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 21) : Well I agree with you! So can we trade Smit for de Jongh? 😈

  • Comment 22, posted at 01.04.11 14:19:53 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Picture this… The tired, battered and injury riven Sharks return home on Saturday. Not any given Saturday but tomorrow after a tour encompassing 3 countries in as many weeks.

    Before the match in the warm up room in the caverns of the Stadium (wonder if it still has the green, running track material) they hear the distant rumbles of the Stadium announcer and the cheers of the crowd as the Sharks girls no doubt do their customary prancing around the field.

    They are nervous after reading and hearing stories all week long about how rubbish their midfield is, how hopeless their front row looks, and how John Smit – their leader – is now irredeemably useless. They have also heard and read about how great the Stormers midfield is, how magnificent their defence… and now attack is. Of how their forwards are now the match for anyone and that there is this young wunderkind hooker Fourie who is ready to bust onto the scene and show the Sharks hookers about real skills. They have heard how slick the Stormers loosies are and how Peter Grant truly runs a game like the general SA has been missing for years… They have read and heard much…

    They are nervous but, with Big Plum standing and watching them warm up, they are determined. He feels sorry for nobody. JLP and Bosman limber up and look around their still new surroundings and watch their team mates get on with it… Not too much emotion, no koppestamp, but probably with a steely determination that is probably slightly at odds with their experiences elsewhere. It also probably dawns on the two that they have won more points abroad in the S15 with the Sharks in one season than in all their seasons combined with other teams.

    They see John Smit who has this granite look in his face as he probably warms up with his so called usurper Bismark. But they have a bond as team mates and they help eachother with big boet Jannie looking on. Alberts limbers up in the corner, expressionless face, with Daniel and Kanko beside him… Odwa and JPP are hopping, springing and jumping hyperactive… and suddenly the whistle goes….

    They line up and they walk past Plumtree… not saying a word, looking into his silent glare as they walk past… John Smit is at the front and breaks into a trot leading from the front onto the field into the humid Durban swirl… The Sharks follow him. The crowd starts going benzene. This is not Sparta…

    (Welcome Stormers)

  • Comment 23, posted at 01.04.11 14:47:08 by Heavens Game Reply

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  • @Heavens Game (Comment 23) : Awesome prose, HG!

  • Comment 24, posted at 01.04.11 14:53:24 by SharonvanWyk Reply
  • @Heavens Game (Comment 23) : *LIKE A LOT BUTTON*

  • Comment 25, posted at 01.04.11 14:59:40 by Ice Reply
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  • @Heavens Game (Comment 23) : lol dude u need to write a story book. 🙂

  • Comment 26, posted at 01.04.11 15:00:53 by Uli Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 24) : Thanks, but it starts flowing when getting a bit Shark patriotic sitting on Mud Island under Grey Skies on a day off. And not one beer in the system yet 😉 Been on Keo for the week and a bit sick of the Smit bashing and Stormer cockiness – fighting the good fight 😈 Hope you are well and still scribing some engaging articles here…

  • Comment 27, posted at 01.04.11 15:02:01 by Heavens Game Reply

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  • @Heavens Game (Comment 23) :
    Great stuff.
    Lets hope its just like that.

  • Comment 28, posted at 01.04.11 15:02:15 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Wow, I just read that Keo is punting the Sharks to win this weekend. And here I thought he was romantically involved with the Stormers brand…Must be a domestic spat…

  • Comment 29, posted at 01.04.11 15:04:37 by KingRiaan Reply

  • @Ice (Comment 25) : @Uli (Comment 26) : Thanks chaps. Am bored but getting well up for the game tomorrow. So please forgive the OTT. 😉 Funny to think of the Stormers as favourites… but on the other hand Sharks seem to perform at their best when they are underdogs.

  • Comment 30, posted at 01.04.11 15:06:54 by Heavens Game Reply

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  • You know what? We actually need to cut John Smit some slack now. We’ve all made our points, as has everyone else and their dogs, cats, gerbils, hamsters and second cousins, twice removed.
    In the immortal words of Monty Python, I WILL NOT BUY THIS RECORD, IT IS SCRATCHED.
    Yes. On current form JS is having a hard time. But hell, he’s had a handful of games since coming back from an extended period of injury and recovery. In a few weeks time our equally Spartan and even more fabulously talented SuperPat comes back from his injury-forced sebatical. If he doesn’t get right back into the swing of things immediately are we going to start calling him a one-kick wonder and call for his blood, resignation, transfer, removal, supplantation and a few games in the XV until he can show us he deserves the No 10 slot again followed by a few thousand hours on the bench waiting for JLP to break a leg?
    This isn’t just anyone we are talking about here, it’s John Smit, people. And I think he deserves an even break, not just here, but everywhere else. Not just because he’s a legend in his own lunchtime, but because when he’s in form he’s that good. Good enough to win us the Webb Ellis trophy. (Note to all and sundry – he didn’t do that by sitting on the bench – he went out and bled for it).
    Talent doesn’t suddenly wither and die. The older you get the harder it gets to recover from injuries and niggles which as a whippersnapper you forget in the blink of an eye. The talent remains, but the body, and mind, take longer to assimilate it.
    There’s still a HUGE amount of SupeRugby left to play, and who’s to say that JS won’t suddenly find his form and become the blistering player we all know he can be.
    Based on what I am reading here and elsewhere, I am dreading watching poor Patrick Lambie take to the field against the Canes in a few weeks time, presuming his paw allows him to do so, and miss his first kick at poles, because I can guarantee that before the final whistle blows he’ll be relegated from hero to zero.
    Can’t we just be patient and trust in the credentials of the Sharks coaches and management, who I don’t believe would jeopardise the team’s chances by fielding a player who is past his sell-by date. Unless, of course, they’re all “sycophants” too?

  • Comment 31, posted at 01.04.11 15:08:59 by SharonvanWyk Reply
  • @Heavens Game (Comment 27) : Trying my best, dude. Mud Island is no place to be without beer. Best day of my life was the one where I left it FAAAARRR behind!

  • Comment 32, posted at 01.04.11 15:11:25 by SharonvanWyk Reply
  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 31) : Yup, I doubt Plum is anyone’s sycophant… Jeez, I actually would like to meet the person who calls Plum a sycophant… to his face…

    It was only last year that Barney, about 50kgs overweight, taught the rising Liebenburg from the Stormers a lesson he still hasn’t forgotten about Hooker play in the scrums and loose. Barney is now at fighting weight and I know that he will be peaking at the right time… as you say, a long tournament and at the business end will be just right.

    Sharks are fortunate to have 2 of the best “2s” on the planet. The unfortunate thing is that there are not 2 hooking positions on the same side in rugby.

    Who knows it could be a rematch against the Crusaders… This time round with Silence of the Lambie present… Bismarck softening everyone up for the first 60 mins and who better than John Smit to take the field and bring the team home… Bring it on!

  • Comment 33, posted at 01.04.11 15:20:54 by Heavens Game Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 14) : Gotcha. And I agree. I don’t think anyone will spesifically make that big defernce in 20 minutes or whatever. And you’re right it should not be a simple ‘John has to be there for the last 20 min’, but rather make a good decision on who’s best suited for that game, without the Captaincy being to much of a worry.

  • Comment 34, posted at 01.04.11 15:21:37 by Letgo Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 31) : I’m going to add an addendum in the form of this parting thought:
    As fans, we are prepared to scream our lungs out for our team to make a huge last-minute comeback when the odds are against us and the points stacking up for our opponents, and yet we are not willing to do the same for one of our greatest ever players. JS is part of our team. He deserves more from us. He’s going to be there for us in the “last 20 minutes” of this competition, where the results really do count, so let’s stop the bickering and just sommer support the oke, wherever and whenever Plum chooses to play him.

  • Comment 35, posted at 01.04.11 15:22:13 by SharonvanWyk Reply
  • @KingRiaan (Comment 29) : his feeble attempt at jinxing the sharks!

  • Comment 36, posted at 01.04.11 15:23:45 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 36) : Yup. Schalkie probably told him his hair looked kak so now he’s dikbek.

  • Comment 37, posted at 01.04.11 15:27:51 by SharonvanWyk Reply
  • @Heavens Game (Comment 23) : HG is smoking tik again…

  • Comment 38, posted at 01.04.11 15:32:27 by Megatron Reply

  • @KingRiaan (Comment 29) : Its puzzling because he also professes to be a Bulls supporter…

    Maybe its a journo primer for stories come WC time later in the year – try be nice to everyone at some point… Makes things easier when trying to access players.

  • Comment 39, posted at 01.04.11 15:33:00 by Heavens Game Reply

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 37) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 40, posted at 01.04.11 15:33:50 by Ice Reply
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  • @Heavens Game (Comment 30) : 😯 bored. You must have broken all your Keo playthings, I really thought they were made of sterner stuff.

  • Comment 41, posted at 01.04.11 15:39:13 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • The way Keo and his cronies go on over there on Keo.co.za, you’d swear the Stormers are the best thing since sliced bread.

  • Comment 42, posted at 01.04.11 15:39:43 by KingRiaan Reply

  • @Heavens Game (Comment 39) : Nothing beats rattling cages when it comes to getting access! The “prove me wrong” attitude sometimes works best of all! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 43, posted at 01.04.11 15:39:52 by SharonvanWyk Reply
  • @KingRiaan (Comment 42) : Which must make the Sharks the knives that sliced the bread, then! 😆 Those Stormers blokes have really short memories. Bit like goldfish.

  • Comment 44, posted at 01.04.11 15:41:14 by SharonvanWyk Reply
  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 44) : “Sharp” miesies Vanwyk! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 45, posted at 01.04.11 15:43:47 by Ice Reply
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  • @Heavens Game (Comment 23) : Priceless!! 😆

  • Comment 46, posted at 01.04.11 15:48:14 by Puma Reply

  • shark fans feeling a bit grootbek today 😛

  • Comment 47, posted at 01.04.11 15:49:02 by Megatron Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 47) : It’s called “positive thinking”…. 😉

  • Comment 48, posted at 01.04.11 15:49:49 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 48) : no wonder you’re all feeling fuzzy you’ve HG for ur praise singer….hahaha :mrgreen: he is bloody good

  • Comment 49, posted at 01.04.11 15:53:44 by Megatron Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 49) : He is!! I could actually feel sitting in the stands, hearing the crowd as they came onto the field! 😆

  • Comment 50, posted at 01.04.11 15:55:22 by Ice Reply
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  • Over and Out for me!!

    Have an awsome weekend everyone! GO MY SHAKS BOYS!!! MAKE MOMMA PROUD!! 😉

  • Comment 51, posted at 01.04.11 15:56:16 by Ice Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 31) : Nice post Sharon… 😎

  • Comment 52, posted at 01.04.11 15:58:33 by Puma Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 52) : Thank you. Just visited Keo. What a trumpet blowing, own-horn blaring scenario that one is, eh? A real “we are gods among men” back slapping thang.
    I worked with Gary Lemke when he was sports editor at the Pretoria News… could tell a few tales! Far too slick and self-congratulatory for my palette.

  • Comment 53, posted at 01.04.11 16:03:04 by SharonvanWyk Reply
  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 53) : Sharon..hehe. Good to see you over there. You and HG together over there winding em up would be a bloody good laugh.

    Anyhow out of here now.

    Cheers Sharon. Have a lekker weekend.

    Go Sharks.

  • Comment 54, posted at 01.04.11 16:18:55 by Puma Reply

  • OOOHHHHH! What fun! Stirring up a storm on Keo! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 55, posted at 01.04.11 16:37:44 by SharonvanWyk Reply
  • Sharkspeople: I am away to prepare my evening repas (oriental style chicken stir fry) and reflect on the fact that Sharksworld is a wonderful place to be and that y’all are really quite fab (even Megatron, bless him) and dandy!
    Thank you all for your cameraderie and bonhommie!
    I bid you all adieu until the morrow! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 56, posted at 01.04.11 16:49:08 by SharonvanWyk Reply
  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 55) : A masterful display.

  • Comment 57, posted at 01.04.11 17:21:47 by Heavens Game Reply

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 55) : now now, Shaz… your pearls are far too good for that swine.

  • Comment 58, posted at 01.04.11 17:33:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • Definitely a place for John in the squad – we just need to play horses for courses, and utilise his versatility well.

    Loved the picture you painted HG – probably not far off really.

  • Comment 59, posted at 01.04.11 17:34:35 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 59) : Cheers. Actually looking forward to tomorrow’s game. Hope the guys pull it out the bag and get the belief going again.

  • Comment 60, posted at 01.04.11 20:14:45 by Heavens Game Reply

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  • @Heavens Game (Comment 33) :

    Have you seen Plum in a post match presser ever?


    You start your question off as “Sir…”, gooi a ‘Sir’ somewhere in that sentence and finish your 5-worded question by graciously thanking him for allowing you the opportunity to ask him a question!

    He is one mean mother…

    I can only imagine how much kak he gives his players during practice!!!

    But jokes aside, he is one focussed dude. Softly spoken but arguably the most intense coach I have ever seen in a post match presser, whether he won or lost.

  • Comment 61, posted at 01.04.11 21:37:05 by Morné Reply
  • Any score from the griquas game in?

  • Comment 62, posted at 01.04.11 21:44:27 by bergshark Reply

  • @bergshark (Comment 62) :

    Sharks lost 23-16

  • Comment 63, posted at 01.04.11 21:45:44 by Morné Reply
  • Hope the sharks show them stormers and their supporters (and media!).

  • Comment 64, posted at 01.04.11 21:46:57 by bergshark Reply

  • The sharks lost?????????? 😐
    @Morne: isd this another april fool’s joke..?

  • Comment 65, posted at 01.04.11 21:55:40 by bergshark Reply

  • Any news on deysel?how did he go?

  • Comment 66, posted at 01.04.11 21:56:45 by bergshark Reply

  • @bergshark (Comment 65) :unbelivable but true; the sharks lost… It was raining buckets full before the game, they scored 3 try’s to one. That’s acording to supersport. No mention was made of deysel. Earl Rose apperantly had a good one 🙂

  • Comment 67, posted at 01.04.11 22:42:20 by franshark Reply

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