Richard Ferguson

Some food for thought


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Stormers, Super Rugby on 3 Apr 2011 at 12:14
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I left the stadium a very disappointed man last night, not only because the Sharks lost, but more the way they had gone about it. It was also my first loss at the Tank since starting writing for Sharksworld. I was gutted!

But I am now over my initial anger and disappointment and can look back at the game, and after watching the game in more detail on TV, and give some more insight and analysis. A lot has been said about the Sharks and their traveling schedule and it all does make sense, but have a look at where it all went wrong for the Sharks.

The lineouts were a major issue, and even though this was throughout the match, it seemed to have gotten worse since Al Hargreaves left the park early in the second half. Now we all know that Hargreaves makes the lineout calls, and we have to question who made the calls in the last half hour when the Sharks could not win a lineout.

The lineout issue can further be analysed by the way the ball was thrown in. The Stormers did not lose one lineout from six, and of these three throwns went to the front and the other three went to the middle of the lineout. Now the Sharks attempted to do too much and played risky rugby by attempting four of their seven lineouts towards the back of the lineout.

The wet weather had a massive influence on the game, but this only came in the second half and the handling errors from the Sharks were evident throughout the game. It has to be said though that a lot of the fifty-fifty passes and bounces did go against the Sharks. The amount of handling errors could be explained in the amount of kicking that the Stormers did, and the Sharks running the ball from that resulted in lost possession through handling error or lost possession.

The weaknesses raised above are areas which the Sharks can easily improve on, especially if they have an entire week to prepare for their game, something they have not had the luxury of doing since their last home game against the Blues. Lineouts can be worked on by just spending more time getting the calls right and focusing on your strengths at the front of the lineout instead if risking a long throw in.

There are a few positives to be taken from this match even though you did not think so at the time. The Sharks missed a total of 10 tackles on the night, only one more than that of the Stormers. The Sharks managed four linebreaks, exactly the same amount as the Stormers. The point I am trying to raise here is that the Sharks managed to match the much vaunted Stormers defence and their much vaunted centre combination that was supposed to run through the Sharks midfield at will was not that influential in this game.

At the end of the day, a loss is a loss and we all have the right to be disappointed and angry, but it is something we need to put behind us and look forward to the game against the Lions, and most importantly, back our boys to bring home the five points.


104 Comments

  • well written Rich – thanks!

  • Comment 1, posted at 03.04.11 12:19:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • Chin up Punter, you haven’t lost to the Canes ….. yet 😆

  • Comment 2, posted at 03.04.11 12:24:54 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 2) :

    After yesterday, I am not very worried about the Canes..

    I am glad though that we are not playing the Highlanders..

  • Comment 3, posted at 03.04.11 12:27:32 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 3) : Stop poking fun at the less fortunate ! 😆 😆 😆

  • Comment 4, posted at 03.04.11 12:30:58 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 2) : After all the fuss, Mark Hammett is turning out to be a really c**py coach so far.

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.04.11 12:33:40 by beet Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 4) : @Richard Ferguson (Comment 3) : Apparently Hammett might be the opening act for the next David Blaine show. His trick of being able to turn a good team bad is starting to earn him growing recognition. 😈

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.04.11 12:36:05 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 5) : True …. could be in trouble.

    I see he has decided to back the players after the latest loss ! 😕

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.04.11 12:37:15 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 6) : 😆

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.04.11 12:37:47 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • Sharks forever :),the guys lost the game but so long as they don’t lose they love for the jersey and we as fans still back them,we win in the end,trophies come and go but we will always stay,I hope the guys know that and they try get better each week

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.04.11 12:37:52 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 9) : 😉

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.04.11 12:38:44 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 3) : Nice article Richard.
    I’ve got to say that the back of the lineout is where the money’s at. The Sharks need to work harder on getting their lineout up to scratch.
    The Sharks XV played a very similar game against the Lions in the wet a few weeks ago. I really thing this ball in hand approach needs to be re-evaluated for wet weather games. Mixing it up with some good tactical kicking and forcing our opponents to play from deep is more to my liking.

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.04.11 12:41:22 by beet Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 10) : my boss is a stormer ,he can’t wait for monday morning 😛

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.04.11 12:43:08 by Poisy Reply
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  • How about starting Smit at hooker against the Lions, does anyone agree with my suggestion?

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.04.11 12:53:04 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 13) :

    Give Bismarck a break?

    Not a bad idea..

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.04.11 13:05:06 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • my sentiments exactly as i felt the same. i drove down from jhb to witness this mess. 4 tries were waiting to happen that were seriously on. the real value of oupa, adi, john smit and even bosman needs to be looked at. the signing of almost retired players just dont make sense. where is the new breed of youngsters.

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.04.11 13:09:05 by Gerhardt Reply

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  • @Gerhardt (Comment 15) : The new breed of youngsters are still young 😉

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.04.11 13:15:43 by war1 Reply
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  • Well said Beet, you hit the nail on the head about the tactical kicking!

    Will the Sharks 15 game be televised on Saturday?

    Agree 100% with you Rob, must not rush Deysel back!

    Good article Richard.

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.04.11 13:17:45 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • We all know where it went wrong and that it can be fixed, what drives me up the wall is the lost opportunity. Management and the players need to account for the decision taken to play last Sunday .Had we had the entire week to prepare for the game (stuck to our routine),we would have beaten the Stormers. Yes we will bounce back but we need to be realistic, our remaing games involve playing the Bulls twice, playing the Stormers away, playing FS away, playing the Lions twice..infact, our last 3 games are away from home against local teams. Let’s be honest here..the teams we’ve played against to date (bar the Crusaders and Stormers @ home) are not better than us. Yes we’ll be competitive going forward but will it be enough? Last year we won 7 of our last 8 games and our position on the log didn’t improve. Still love the guys but I’m pissed off.

  • Comment 18, posted at 03.04.11 13:19:43 by GreatSharksays Reply

     
  • My thoughts on Smit ahead is to give Bis a break as well as to give Smit a fighting chance also this might sort out the lineouts. I also think the Sharks would do well to slow down the tempo of the game against the Lions and grind down their forward pack.

  • Comment 19, posted at 03.04.11 13:20:00 by war1 Reply
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  • The single worst performance in sharks rugby history, and the stormers can only put 10 points past us. I would have been ashamed if I was stormer. Expect a comfy 5 points against lions. A break, and then lambie is back. Sharks still only SA hope. Maybe bulls. Stormers not championship material. A lot like Anna Kournikova. Looks good, wins [email protected]

  • Comment 20, posted at 03.04.11 13:39:38 by GeneralSpecific Reply
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  • Well written Richard……I was annoyed last night by all the bloggers who like to shoot from the hip and then have a good think about the game and realise that it is not all negative.

    “The weaknesses raised above are areas which the Sharks can easily improve on, especially if they have an entire week to prepare for their game, something they have not had the luxury of doing since their last home game against the Blues.”
    My sentiments exactly!

    @GeneralSpecific (Comment 20) :
    😆 at you last sentence!

  • Comment 21, posted at 03.04.11 13:46:20 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @GeneralSpecific (Comment 20) : I’d be especially ashamed if my team was 9 points behind the Stormers on the log. 😛 😉

  • Comment 22, posted at 03.04.11 13:53:39 by McLovin Reply

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  • @GeneralSpecific (Comment 20) : In terms of Super Rugby the Stormers have indeed won ‘[email protected]’. In fact so have the Sharks. And Cheetahs. And Lions. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 23, posted at 03.04.11 13:56:09 by McLovin Reply

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  • I think we need to recognise the genius of Andries Bekker here, specifically at the line-out.

    He made Victor his bitch at Loftus and put massive doubt in the mind of Bismarck yesterday.

  • Comment 24, posted at 03.04.11 14:35:36 by Morné Reply
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  • I.e. the reason they went to the back Rich, was to avoid Bekker…

  • Comment 25, posted at 03.04.11 14:36:09 by Morné Reply
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  • Sharks is one bonus point victory behind the Stormers… ease up fellas.

  • Comment 26, posted at 03.04.11 14:37:03 by Morné Reply
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  • Well summed up Richard, like I said yesterday, the Stormers didn’t outplay us, we outplayed ourselves.

  • Comment 27, posted at 03.04.11 14:45:30 by Ben Reply
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  • Sarel Pretorious is turning out to be a real little find. Wouldn’t mind seeing him in a Sharks jersey. 🙂

  • Comment 28, posted at 03.04.11 14:49:40 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 28) : What exactly do you mean by find?

  • Comment 29, posted at 03.04.11 15:10:48 by war1 Reply
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  • Last week I said that jlp needs a fair chance, well he got it and was found to light, I’m not one to knock down players but he is not the answer. We are going to have to find a better 2nd for flyhalf asspecialy when lambs are on bok duty.

  • Comment 30, posted at 03.04.11 15:20:38 by franshark Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 29) : I mean he’s a good player and there are a lot of them out there but not all of them seem to be able to step up to super rugby level, which Sarel is able to do comfortable in my opinion. I think he’s a find for the Cheetahs. Valuable player. I’m sure the Sharks can pay him more than the Griquas and Cheetahs are at the moment. 😉

  • Comment 31, posted at 03.04.11 15:29:03 by Ben Reply
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  • Unfortunately, this looked like a Sharks team that spent the week trying to recover from a hectic travel schedule, instead of spending time practising their handling and drills!

    Not much they could do to change that, though, was there?

    They had just come off one of the most intense games of the Superrugby season, to take on one of the best local outfits with lots to prove after having performed so badly at Kings Park in recent times. The Stormers would’ve identified that the Sharks were right for the picking, and that they’d never get a better opportunity… I’m sure they were psyched!

  • Comment 32, posted at 03.04.11 15:36:36 by CS Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 31) : Ok, in my mind a ‘find’ is a young player who has not played Super rugby yet. Sarel is neither, he is very nearly 27 and has had a few seasons of Super rugby. I don’t think he will offer any more to the Sharks that what McLeod does at the moment.

  • Comment 33, posted at 03.04.11 15:36:56 by war1 Reply
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  • It crossed my mind during the game that Kockett may well have found himself in a starting position by now had he had the guts to fight for a place at the Sharks… McCleod’s not up to scratch lately imo.

  • Comment 34, posted at 03.04.11 15:38:10 by CS Reply

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  • @franshark (Comment 30) : JLP will be more than adequate for the Sharks during the Currie Cup whilst Lambie is on Bok duty… remember how “brilliant” Elton Jantjies looked against local opposition for the Lions

  • Comment 35, posted at 03.04.11 15:40:35 by CS Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 33) : I was more or less thinking of him as backup to Mcleod when and if he’s away with the Boks. Okay maybe “find” wasn’t the correct word to use.

  • Comment 36, posted at 03.04.11 15:41:24 by Ben Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 32) : Could not agree more!!!

  • Comment 37, posted at 03.04.11 15:43:36 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 36) : Don’t think McLeod will go away with the Boks… DuPreez and Hougaard will be the first choices imo (Not to mention the “teachers” pet, Januarie). And don’t be surprised if Pienaar makes a surprise appearance.

  • Comment 38, posted at 03.04.11 15:46:06 by CS Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 38) : Mcleod is easily the best scrummie in SA if he gets back the form he showed in the currie cup in my opinion.

  • Comment 39, posted at 03.04.11 15:48:25 by Ben Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 25) : I’d love to see Bekker dethrone Matfield for the World Cup, because I don’t see Matfield bringing much to the field these days… but I guess that would never happen!

  • Comment 40, posted at 03.04.11 15:49:32 by CS Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 39) : You and might think that, but I doubt Div ever will?

  • Comment 41, posted at 03.04.11 15:50:22 by CS Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 34) : Kockott is a loose cannon, someone who is just as likely lose his team a game than winning it for them. Plum publicly criticised Rory a few times last year and he was never going to stay at the Sharks.

  • Comment 42, posted at 03.04.11 15:52:20 by war1 Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 41) : Yes that’s a very valid statement. Anyhows I would still like to see Sarel in there as backup to Mcleod and to play in situations like now when Charl is struggling a bit. Hoffman can learn from them both.

  • Comment 43, posted at 03.04.11 15:53:25 by Ben Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 35) : Remember how average JLP looked for the Bulls in the Currie cup? I have a feeling Lambie won’t play Bok this year, not that he isn’t the best player just that he won’t get selected.

  • Comment 44, posted at 03.04.11 15:55:33 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 44) : Yeah got a feeling Useless Morne Steyn and Peter Grant will be the Flyhalves for us at the WC.

  • Comment 45, posted at 03.04.11 15:57:36 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 43) : I think Hoffmann should get a start against the Lions. I don’t think we should get Sarel nor that we will.

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  • @Ben (Comment 45) : I reckon it will be Morne and Butch if fit.

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  • @Ben (Comment 45) : Interesting to hear Div talking up Grant last week. Wonder if that’s cos he was being interviewed by the WC media or because he’s really that impressed by him?

  • Comment 48, posted at 03.04.11 16:00:57 by CS Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 46) : I don’t think we’ll get him either but let’s face it we are a bit low on depth at scrummie, what would happen if Charl got injured and misses a month of rugby? Would just like to see that quality cover in the team. Also not saying that Hoffman is crap but he hasn’t really had a chance to prove himself. Agree with you Hoffman should start against the lions.

  • Comment 49, posted at 03.04.11 16:03:00 by Ben Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 47) : I think Butch, Grant and Morne might all go, Buth as extra cover on centre.

  • Comment 50, posted at 03.04.11 16:04:44 by Ben Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 48) : Didn’t even know about that.

  • Comment 51, posted at 03.04.11 16:06:02 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 51) : Not sure where I read it, I think Supersport?

  • Comment 52, posted at 03.04.11 16:07:36 by CS Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 52) : Imo the 2 world class centres that play outside Grant makes him look a bit better than he really is. He’s goal kicking is very good though.

  • Comment 53, posted at 03.04.11 16:10:28 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 51) : Here you go.

    Grant the new Bok number 10?
    2011-03-31 22:04
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    Cape Town – The Stormers view Peter Grant as their unsung hero and if he maintains his current form he may well be rewarded with the Green and Gold this year.

    This is not the view of someone inside the camp, but the appraisal of Springbok coach Peter de Villiers himself.

    Grant is not among the contracted players announced by De Villiers this week, but the Bok coach is keeping an open mind about any player who might potentially add value.

    “We want to go and win the World Cup and you can’t do that if you’re stupid! If someone is playing the way Peter Grant is at the moment and I ignore him, why do we bother with these kinds of games?” said De Villiers.

    “If he maintains this kind of form, there is a good chance that he will be at the World Cup (in New Zealand in September). But he’s not the only one and there are other guys that are also playing well.

    “The other side of the coin is that some players realise that it’s a long season and are pacing themselves. For example, Fourie du Preez is the best scrumhalf in the world, but is currently only operating at 20% of his ability. He is still controlling games. Just think how good he will be when he’s at his best!”

    Grant last wore a Bok jersey against Australia in Perth in 2008 and then he was a substitute for Butch James. The latter may well be one of a number of experienced and talented players that stand between Grant and the Bok jersey.

    Like the rest of the Bulls, Morné Steyn has not been in good form. However, you don’t just discard a man who has notched a points record against New Zealand and clinched the test series against the British and Irish Lions with a long-distance penalty.

    Then there is still a young star like Patrick Lambie to keep in mind. He is still on the injury list this week and will not play for the Sharks against the Stormers on Saturday.

    However, if talent alone is taken as a measure, Lambie may probably be ahead of all the other candidates.

    The flyhalf position has often been a problematic one for South Africa in the modern era, but there are now numerous strong candidates for the Boks’ No 10 jersey.

    Grant will therefore have to continue playing well to be a contender.

    Stormers coach Allister Coetzee praised his flyhalf in the wake of the victory over the Western Force.

    “He is our unsung hero. There is maturity in his game and his decision-making of when to kick and take the ball wide is good. He also kicks well at posts and his kicking out of hand has also been good.”

    Grant has slotted 30 from 36 kicks at goal for the Stormers this year and a success ratio of 83% is what is expected of a kicker at test level.

    How much longer then before Grant is rewarded for his form? After all, he was also good last year.

    “Let’s not talk about the Springboks now. It’s still a long time before the World Cup,” said Coetzee.

    At least Grant now knows for sure that De Villiers is watching.

  • Comment 54, posted at 03.04.11 16:31:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 53) : Grant impressed me so-far. at this stage lambs and Grant are the form players, but we all know in SA form does not pick players… 😕

  • Comment 55, posted at 03.04.11 16:35:47 by franshark Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 54) : Thanks Oubaas, haha actually went and read it on Supersport.

  • Comment 56, posted at 03.04.11 16:38:23 by Ben Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 55) : Yeah I agree with you, based on current form I’d take Lambie and Grant to the WC.

  • Comment 57, posted at 03.04.11 16:40:19 by Ben Reply
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  • I’ve said this a lot of times on here but let me just say this again. I DO NOT rate Morne Steyn AT ALL!

  • Comment 58, posted at 03.04.11 16:42:01 by Ben Reply
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  • “We want to go and win the World Cup and you can’t do that if you’re stupid!” So basicly what Peter is saying is that we have no chance of winning the WC! 🙂

  • Comment 59, posted at 03.04.11 16:45:40 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 49) : If Charl got injured, Hoffmann would start and Tian Meyer would come onto the bench.

  • Comment 60, posted at 03.04.11 17:06:26 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 42) : Exactly! I reckon he cost the Lions on Saturday!

  • Comment 61, posted at 03.04.11 17:36:37 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • Rich, unfortunately the things that can be easily fixed aren´t new and aren´t being fixed. Our lineout problems didn´t start yesterday, we have been poor at the breakdowns for a while now and our inability to round off scoring opportunities is becoming a pain in the arse.

    Why have we deviated from our success recipe of respecting possession and not kicking aimlessly? Surely, when you have a game plan that works, you stick to it?

  • Comment 62, posted at 03.04.11 18:12:55 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 61) : He also slotted a last minute penalty to give them a bonus point, he is not a bad player just he sometimes loses his head.

  • Comment 63, posted at 03.04.11 18:57:06 by war1 Reply
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  • @Morne… Also thought the odds were stacked against the Sharks. So let’s put it behind us, Sharkies. Against the so-called form team we were pretty crap and to my mind had a fe•w kicks gone over and a few bounces our way, we could’ve taken this.

  • Comment 64, posted at 03.04.11 19:15:03 by catfish Reply
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  • it’s amazing how sharks fans always convince each other to keep their eyes wide shut, in the name of supporting the team. In a game where the stormers matched their usually belligerent forwards, the backs still couldn’t create any spark but that is fine because the ‘lineouts were the problem’ 🙄

    the yardsticks keep getting lowered, now the team made the same amount of linebreaks as the stormers – um, the same team berated by all and sundry for having scored only 2 tries in their first 3 games – that’s the team you people measure yourselves against? 😉

    none of the sharks backs are a threat on offence, NONE! A guy like sarel pretorius would’ve bagged the try mcleod butchered and that’s just one example.

    Maybe this loss to the stormers is a ‘blessing in disguise’ and it will help the sharks lift their intensity at the coke tin next week 😛 8)

  • Comment 65, posted at 03.04.11 19:35:36 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 65) : Transie, we play Lions at Kings Park next week. 😛

  • Comment 66, posted at 03.04.11 20:36:39 by Puma Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 44) : I think once Lambie returns for Sharks and takes up from where he left off. He could get selected. But he is young and 2015 is not that far away.

    Also about Kockott. He got a really good kick over to give the Lions a bonus point. Something that is missing with us since we lost Lambie to injury. We missing too much of our kicks. That alone is costing us.

  • Comment 67, posted at 03.04.11 20:40:45 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 66) : even better, then the boys will lift their intensity to full tilt!

    This is not sparta! This is KINGS PARK!!! 😉

    how come the Tank wasn’t full yesterday? Sharks fans are wack

  • Comment 68, posted at 03.04.11 20:42:45 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 65) :I hear you, but the same team(backline) your knocking now is the ones that played and help make the best super rugby game yet this year(against the saders)

  • Comment 69, posted at 03.04.11 20:50:37 by franshark Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 68) : They don’t go out in the rain… :mrgreen:

    Not sure but there were 37 000 More than turned up for the Twickers game. 😛

  • Comment 70, posted at 03.04.11 20:54:25 by Puma Reply

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  • With Lambie back and some rest the boys should be able to take them. I still think we can win against the Stormers and Crusaders. I still think we are a top 3 team in this competition.

  • Comment 71, posted at 03.04.11 20:59:00 by kingshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 69) : sharks tries were NOT made by any backline moves or attack…they were all from broken play or the forwards kept doing the pick drive to score – alberts & hargreaves, jlp poached a restart that was clumsily palmed towards him by sam whitelock, ndungane’s try came from israel dagg being stupid and the ball was shuffled to the wing until odwa scored, so what backline play are you talking about?!

    Compare all that to the mastery of the crusaders backline that ripped the sharks midfield to shreds from first phase ball where the ball touches ellis, carter, loops around to ellis, who finds fruean, who takes one step & sends a pinpoint pass to a flying israel dagg! No comparison whatsoever!

  • Comment 72, posted at 03.04.11 21:01:12 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 72) : the cheets and lions have both score a number off spectacular try’s but are nowhere in this comp, not even the super bok/storm backline looked any better in daurbs than the weakend and tired sharks backline, yes we need some leadership in the backline because again I say jlp is not the answer.

  • Comment 73, posted at 03.04.11 21:17:18 by franshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 73) : read, my initial post again…you backline is inept! Lambie is the only threat and a mild one at that besides that what does bosman bring on attack? Oupa? Odwa, Ludik, Mvovo – atleast he can finish but he is no zac guilford.

    Again, u’re making the barren stormers your yardstick – how many tries has the crusaders backline scored so far & remember they forfeited a game to the [email protected] canes after the earthquake.?

  • Comment 74, posted at 03.04.11 21:36:39 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 74) :Its not that I am turning a blind eye for the poor rugby we played on saterday. I am however comparing players like odwa, mvovo, ludik against the boks first choice’s in fourie, de villiers, haba and even the exiting aplon. They could not do to the sharks what the saders did as you have explained. I do agree that a string of below par preformances of oupa, combined with meyer and jlp not living up to expectations is not working in our favour. I would rather see swanie given a chance with adi in starting 15

  • Comment 75, posted at 03.04.11 22:15:55 by franshark Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 74) : I me and myself have to faceup to an on-slaught of storm and bull suporters at work tommorow. I will stand tall because I believe the sharks can still end up on top of sa-conference….

  • Comment 76, posted at 03.04.11 22:27:39 by franshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 73) : Just my take on this, I really think its unfair to judge and write off JLP already. He needs to go and work on his kicking, we all know he’s a better kicker than he’s showing at the moment. The guy has only started 2 games for us and already some of us are writing him off, I think its very unfair bud. Give the guy a fair chance to prove himself.

  • Comment 77, posted at 03.04.11 22:38:37 by Ben Reply
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  • Just an idea. I’d pay Stefan Terblanche on fullback against the Lions and move Adi in to the outside centre. Let Adi play the full game so we can see what he’s got. Stef is an attacking liability for me at 13. Doesn’t have enough pace.

  • Comment 78, posted at 03.04.11 22:51:52 by Ben Reply
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  • @GeneralSpecific (Comment 20) : They are unbeaten and have beaten the Bulls and the Sharks away, I would be pretty happy with that, don’t make such inane comments, without backing it up with something, they might of not beaten the Bulls in the final but they were in the final. They have improved immensely this year and if they can keep playing like they did on Saturday they will become champions!!

  • Comment 79, posted at 04.04.11 06:22:02 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 77) :This is exactly what I said last week about jlp, and the fact is he is going to get another chance against easier opposition. Maybe it would have been a good idea to give jlp 2 games in the vodacom cup, just to get his rithem back. I have never rated him high and was not impressed when the sharks made the deal.

  • Comment 80, posted at 04.04.11 06:22:03 by franshark Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 79) : they do have the potencial to be the champs this year, but not if they play like saterday, they will be murderd by a team playing like the saders.they are getting it easy at the moment, but that’s good for them and I hope they keep on building on that. We must try and get 3 teams into the semi/playoffs.

  • Comment 81, posted at 04.04.11 06:30:02 by franshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 81) : Their (Stormers) defence is the best in the Tournament, lets talk after the Saders game. The Sharks got caught by a rampaging Crusaders team, after 3 weeks on tour, and if they had had a decent kicker that result may have been very different. My point being the Stormers defence is a lot better that the Sharks. Remember also the Stormers are playing away, and winning, that always counts for something. They have not been pretty, but they are unbeaten and will get better as the tournament goes on. My only worry is that without Peter Grant, they will be in trouble. I can’t believe I am defending the Stormers, but I would put money on them to top the South African conference. The Bulls will also still come back, they will take a lot of confidence from that win, watch them. However I think the Sharks will be second at the end

  • Comment 82, posted at 04.04.11 07:11:50 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 82) : Pretty much what I think too. Without Grant they may suffer but they will probably top the tables.

  • Comment 83, posted at 04.04.11 07:25:05 by King Shark Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 83) : If Div does not look at him(Grant) now, then I just don’t know. He is kicking better than Steyn and is a better alround player and with Fourie du Preez service he will have even more time at his disposal. Makes sense to me, but it is still a long way off before the world cup!!

  • Comment 84, posted at 04.04.11 07:30:57 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 84) : By virtue of the fact that it is Pdivvie, I reckon Grant will play only after the World Cup (or is that too cynical for a Monday morning?)

    We will need him though – watch my statistical acumen 😉
    100% of World Cups where we had a Maritzburg boytjie at 10 we won.
    100% of World Cups where we didn’t we lost.

  • Comment 85, posted at 04.04.11 08:04:50 by King Shark Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 85) : If the past couple of games has taught us anything it is that you must have a kicker that can make 9 of 10 from anywhere on the park. Grant is that guy at the moment and so is Lambie. Morne had a good game with the boot this weekend so the race is on.

  • Comment 86, posted at 04.04.11 08:09:27 by Viking Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 85) : Interesting stat, and proud one for the school, I am a bit superstitious so I like that.

  • Comment 87, posted at 04.04.11 08:09:30 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 87) : I am actually helluva superstitious when I compete!

  • Comment 88, posted at 04.04.11 08:29:07 by King Shark Reply
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  • @GeneralSpecific (Comment 20) : :mrgreen: @ your last sentence! 😆

  • Comment 89, posted at 04.04.11 09:14:58 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 77) : True Ben – but by the time his kicking might be on parr, we might be at the bottom of the log…we need someone and we need someone NOW…we are losing games because of this. Yes – the team is not up to scratch – but I have always said – you need a reliable kicker – coz its those “easy points” that can get you a game or cost you a game.

  • Comment 90, posted at 04.04.11 09:19:51 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 74) : I’ve been saying it for a while, and the radio commentator mentioned it on Saturday. All the progress being made by the Sharks forwards is consistently undone by our inept backline. I wish people would open their eyes on this site and realise that our backline is our weak point. We have a scrummie who is woefully off-form (yet he gets backed every week on this site), JLP is nothing special. Bosman is okay, Oupa is a retreaded fullback and showing his age, Ndungane has an excellent work rate but his lack of pace makes him vulnerable on defence. Mvov’s is great but hardly utilised. The solution is very simple IMO: Start Hoffman at scrummie and Jacobs at 13, hopefully Lambie will be back for the next game so that JLP can take up his rightful place on the bench. Why are we still phasing Jacobs in off the bench? He’s the only runner that looks dangerous in our backline?

  • Comment 91, posted at 04.04.11 09:25:50 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 91) :

    …. he still hardly strikes fear into anyone though does he ! 🙄

  • Comment 92, posted at 04.04.11 09:30:26 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 85) : Heh-heh, now that is a case of using co-incidence as a compelling stat. Weird that Maritzburg college have produced such good flyhalves. I wish they’d produce some decent centres for the Sharks though 😐

  • Comment 93, posted at 04.04.11 09:34:45 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 92) : Don’t make me more glum, now 🙂

  • Comment 94, posted at 04.04.11 09:35:31 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 91) : “Why are we still phasing Jacobs in off the bench? He’s the only runner that looks dangerous in our backline ?” Only Plum will know 🙄

  • Comment 95, posted at 04.04.11 09:35:48 by Charlie Reply

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  • @CapeShark (Comment 94) :

    I do however take your point.

    I think Plum has selected the best of what he has. Adi has been coming back from injury and will definitely feature soon ! 😀

  • Comment 96, posted at 04.04.11 09:39:51 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 96) : Just hoping that soon is not to late 😉

  • Comment 97, posted at 04.04.11 10:19:16 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 4) : We Are the Less Fortunate! 😈

    @CapeShark (Comment 91) : Amen again. Maybe they`ll believe it if someone else says it cause when I went on about that subject weeks ago I got labelled a fair weather supporter. 👿

    There is an up side this week though. The Lions haven`t got Butch yet so I believe we might be in with a shout.
    Hopefully they`ll keep their most potent weapon, Taute on the bench again this week, or lets hope even start Jantjies against us! 😈

  • Comment 98, posted at 04.04.11 10:29:27 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 98) : Jantjies – our MVP!

  • Comment 99, posted at 04.04.11 11:17:13 by King Shark Reply
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  • Just a few quick thoguhts…

    Stormers have conceded 20 tries in their last 21 games… so dont be so hard on Saturday’s Sharks. This is one stingy side that has got even stingier this year.

    This is a good, disciplined Stormers, like it or not.
    They’re putting in the graft in the tight five and winning the collisions and break-downs. Then they have a world class backline and Grant kicking almost 90%.

    They might not go all the way but they’re head and shoulders above anybody else in SA at the moment. And that’s only because they look like they know what they’re trying to do. I.e. they have a game plan and they’re executing it.

    Charl McLeod is not the second messiah.
    Bismarck needs to do some serious work on his line-oput throwing, although that denigrates the excellent work done by Bekker of late.

    Sharks loosies arent winning on the floor, simple as. It doesnt help if have a Willem Alberts bashing all and sundry but loose that amount of break-down ball.

    Reckon the Stormers have worked out a great platform and they can surely only get better from here. By denying other sides the chance to score points they always leave themsevles in contention.
    Cant wait to see them play the Saders.

    Oh, and what the sharks would do to have Lambie back…

  • Comment 100, posted at 04.04.11 13:33:30 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Oh, and I watched Butchie play yesterday. He wasnt great… got out-played by a 20 yearold. But it was nice to see a few shoulder hits again though.

  • Comment 101, posted at 04.04.11 13:34:28 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 101) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 102, posted at 04.04.11 13:56:24 by Ice Reply
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  • No comment from me.

  • Comment 103, posted at 04.04.11 15:58:12 by Speed7 Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 100) : Pretty much go with all of that, Vin! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 104, posted at 04.04.11 19:20:38 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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