robdylan

Letting the side down


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 9 May 2011 at 07:22
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I’m not sure how the Sharks can really be expected to progress to the finals of Super Rugby, much less actually win the competition, if they can’t depend on their fans to get out and support them when they play at home.

Tournament-winning teams, in addition to all the other factors going for them, generally always have a strong, vocal (and ultimately loyal) home crowd to bank on when they’re playing in their own stadium and that factor can often pull them through in tight games. Establishing the “fortress mentality”, where no side, regardless of how good they are, can ever beat you at home, depends to a large extent on the sort of support you can expect when playing at home and I feel that if the Brumbies game is anything to go by, Durban is letting the Sharks down at present.

In a stadium built to cater for over 50 000 people, attracting a crowd of just a shade over 20 000 for a crunch Super Rugby game simply isn’t good enough. I’ve personally seen just how vocal and intimidating Kings Park can be for the opposition when it’s close to full and in full voice and given that we – as Sharks fans – tend to expect so much of the team, perhaps it’s only fitting that we (or at least, those of you who are a little closer) do our part too, by at least attending the games?

The game against the Hurricanes a fortnight ago attracted over 30 000 and while the stadium was by no means full, it was full enough to get a little atmosphere going and to encourage the Sharks when they found themselves in the doldrums. A large crowd of vocal support, clapping hands and drumming on the advertising boards did just the trick to rev up the Sharks’ engines in that game and if we’re going to stand any chance of going all the way in this tournament, we’ll need that again from the fans in the two home games that remain.

Hell, apart from the rugby, the Kings Park experience is 1000 times better than anything else I’ve experienced at any other rugby stadium anywhere in the world, so I simply can’t understand why anyone who’s anywhere near Durban over the weekend would choose not to go. Come on, Sharks fans. This is OUR team and we’re letting them down.


155 Comments

  • Too true. I was at the game on the weekend and was saddened by the lethargic crowd. If we can’t even drum up the energy to vocally support our boys, then what gives us the right to criticize the team for their lead-footness? Come on people, the Player23 factor is huge. Let us all be Player 23 for our boys.

  • Comment 1, posted at 09.05.11 07:32:48 by KingRiaan Reply
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  • Very true and very sad. If I were a bit closer I’d be at every game.

  • Comment 2, posted at 09.05.11 07:37:12 by Ben Reply
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  • Well said Rob, but the apathy is Durban is a lifestyle.

    1). Why do you think a lot of the Big bands touring SA don’t swing by Durban? Because OUR public in Durban just couldn’t be arsed.

    2). Stefan said it on Saturday “not only did we get beaten, we got beaten up” last week. The supporter need a week or two to get their blind faith back.

    Add those 2 together and you have a HUGE influence on the turnout.

    Fast Forward to 2 weeks time against the Bulls. The Stormers will have lost this weekend 😉 we will have gotten the freebie points and will be right on top of the Stormers again AND we will be playing the Bulls. Suddenly we will have an enthusiastic crowd again.

    The Media can help by getting the public all worked up and ready to support in the week before the game as well.

  • Comment 3, posted at 09.05.11 07:50:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) : true. Will be close to a sell out if not totally against the bulls. But Rob has got a point. Support in Durbs is not what it could or should be for a champion side like the sharks… And they don’t lose that often @ Kings Park.

  • Comment 4, posted at 09.05.11 07:58:17 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • It’s shocking. My wife and I drove down from Pretoria for the Hurricanes game. I’ll give at least one little toe and maybe one testicle if I could watch all the sharks games live at Kings Park.

    Growing up in Northern Natal and working in PMB, my dad and I watched every game live that we could. Durban fans should really pull up their socks. It’s getting embarrassing.

  • Comment 5, posted at 09.05.11 08:13:42 by PTAShark Reply
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  • Too many high tea parties?

  • Comment 6, posted at 09.05.11 08:36:15 by Uli Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) : I have to agree, apathy is an ingrained trait in Durban. I remember, way, way back in the mists of time, when the Smashing Pumpkins toured SA, Jhb sold out, CT sold out, but in Durban you could still buy tickets at the gate (and it was at Westring, not the biggest venue around either!).

    Mind you, the concert was so piss-poor I wanted to demand a refund from Billy Corgan afterwards…

  • Comment 7, posted at 09.05.11 08:36:38 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Was actually considering doing my marketing dissertation next year on how to attract the crowds to Kingspark.

    1. We need to have high school derbies before the main game. The union can give 1500 tickets to each school, where everyone else will have to pay. What happens is that most 1st team rugby matched start at 3 pm. That’s 5000 enthusiastic rugby supporters who will probably not make the game, if the game is at 5pm or too tired to go watch the Sharks play at 7pm. Remember most parents are there from the morning to support which ever team their son plays for.

    Further more imagine 2000 ( 1000 boys from each school) doing war cries at the stadium. One visiting school rugby team making noise is enough for the whole stadium to hear.

    2. Garnering rugby support will always be a mission here in durbs due to migration to JHB and CT and other parts of the country. The Sharks were a well supported team who had the best branding and marketing campaign from all other rugby clubs. Sadly I think they relied on that too much and have become quite slack these days. New innovative ideas need to come out

    3. Natal as a union needs to go and spread the game of rugby to regions who were not traditionally rugby supporters. The game, and I am sad to say this is dying slowly in schools, as naturally the make of these schools change as time goes on.

    4. Going for a match needs to become an experience, and needs to compete with going for a movie, going for a party, going for supper for example. There needs to be more concerts at the stadium, more U18 and Over 18 parties, open up and market the bring and braai’s after the match.

    5. Ok, this is going to controversial and many will disagree with me. If we want a packed stadium, moving to Moses Mabida might be the Ace up our sleeves. Its the perfect way to start a fresh. Its obvious that the first match at Moses will be full, and that’s where we target as many people as possible in coming again.

    6. We need to make the stadium more friendly. I know so many people who watch rugby, but are intimidated of coming. The geo-demographics of the game needs to be analysed. A family area and an alcohol free area needs to be in place.

  • Comment 8, posted at 09.05.11 08:39:27 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 7) : same reason I managed to get Robbie Williams tickets for Durban long after Pretoria and Cape Town were sold out. Also a kak concert. My wife made me go.

  • Comment 9, posted at 09.05.11 08:39:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • I wonder how long before Megatron pops up with a disparaging remark? These kind of articles seem to have a red flag/bull type of effect on him…

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.05.11 08:39:54 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Too be honest, for a couple to go and watch the game is pretty expensive, its about what R80 each for tickets, then drinks, the odd burger / braai afterwards, the travel, add all this up you looking at spending at least R800 bucks for a few hours at the stadium.

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.05.11 08:40:40 by Uli Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 7) : Was exactly the same when Simple Minds played in Durban. 😳

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.05.11 08:42:32 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 7) : 🙂

    I’m guilty as well. Of the Early bands that toured SA (before I started working overseas in 2001) I only went to UB40 in Durban.

    That said. I still have my 4 season tickets to KP and we make sure they get used everyweek.

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.05.11 08:42:41 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : I firmly maintain that there are good studio bands, and good live bands, and only occassionaly do the twain meet. Although I can’t claim to have any fondness for Mr. Williams, I had actually been told he puts on quite an entertaining show.

    The Pumpkins though… watching paint dry and all that…

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.05.11 08:42:42 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : I feel your pain. 😆

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.05.11 08:43:27 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 13) : Hey, I was also there. Huge spliffs were making the rounds :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.05.11 08:44:43 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 11) : There is no disagreement from me on that, but that is the same all over the country so why can the Bulls and Stormers fill their stadiums?

  • Comment 17, posted at 09.05.11 08:47:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I think a lot of our support doesn’t come from natal anymore..the hurricanes game was over a easter weekend..a lot of gauteners down..

    It would be nice to see a packed stadium but u must also realise that most of the one side is season ticket holders too..

  • Comment 18, posted at 09.05.11 08:52:01 by shaniboi Reply

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  • Also as students we can’t afford to come to games anymore. R90 a ticket, for students is a bit much. Another thing is the going for it live needs to compete with watching it on a HD TV for free with your entire family or friends.

  • Comment 19, posted at 09.05.11 08:54:42 by Mocho Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 17) : Yea but I for one live in PMB and would live to be there every weekend, esp, considering I am so close. But it does not come cheap.
    therefore you pay a tv sub, and its cheaper + you get movies included with all the rest of games to eye.

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.05.11 09:05:13 by Uli Reply
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  • Quite right Rob. I remember the days when we were in the B section and just after. I remember a disconsolate Joel Stransky kicking his way through the leaves of the plane trees that were just behind the old stadium one evening after a loss to the Bulls. A hand came up and waved half heartedly at our shouts of ‘dont worry Joel next week will be a killer’ It mattered not to drive all night home again through mist – we had been and would go again. These days we go as we can – school hockey matches for the girls sadly take up valuable rugby time!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 09.05.11 09:19:29 by Caratacus Reply

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  • It’s not cool at all – I agree that the club has to try new marketing strategies… They should really push for people to get season tickets. Sweeten the deals a bit more and get people committed.

    Also, we had rain on Saturday morning so that probably put some people off… 🙁

    I agree about getting some vocal support (schools) – a French team visited last year and they made good noise at the stadium. Sometimes it gets too quiet and people stare at you when you make a bit of noise – so sometimes I feel like clapping and shouting instructions from my couch. 🙁

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.05.11 09:23:57 by blackshark - the lurker Reply

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  • I think the sad facts need to be looked at. Durban doesn’t have a large white population, and sadly this is a large base of Sharks support (although it is nice to see a bigger Indian and Black presence at the ground). Most Sharks support comes from towns outside Durban. So it is a lot of effort to get to the stadium. Another big factor is the recession hit companies hard and entertainment costs are one of the first cost cutting measures. And I suppose one also has to take into account the unentertaining style of play the Sharks are playing. What happened to the great expansive game plan we used to support. You don’t have to go to the Shark Tank to realise the Sharks are going to play the same 3 set moves over and over again. Gone are the days of exciting backs and loosies inter-changing and causing chaos on the field. Now we have Alberts, Sykes, Bismarck and Beast all carrying the ball up and getting tackled with it (repeat until ball is turned over or kicked away). None of the players offload to players into space. Since Hugh Reece came on board the backline is barely pedestrian. For the Sharks to get back the crowds they need to bring back the entertainment. Lets be honest and say the Sharks have been routine of late, and to win the tournament and win back fans they need to get some playmakers and get some creative assistent coaches.

  • Comment 23, posted at 09.05.11 09:36:51 by waje Reply

     
  • @Mocho (Comment 8) : I agree whole heartedly, school rugby definitely added spice in the 90’s. It has definitely been neglected by the Sharks.

  • Comment 24, posted at 09.05.11 09:38:24 by waje Reply

     
  • Durban has the most boring crowd,no getting past it.People always talk about did you hear the support for the bulls and stormers,but us pfffft.

  • Comment 25, posted at 09.05.11 09:41:27 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • I think it is a little tough to single out Durban. One look at Bloemfontein, Jo’burg, New Zealand and Australia, and there are many empty seats at their grounds. Even Loftus never had a massive crowd when they played the Chiefs.

  • Comment 26, posted at 09.05.11 09:49:55 by waje Reply

     
  • @waje (Comment 23) : Agree. Also its not like Durban does not have potential. Look at cricket . .they basically selling the tickets black market for an IPL match! Natal Rugby Union has to shoudler the blame as well. If people can afford to pay for an IPL match then why not take the game to places like Chatsworth and Phoenix. Rugby is a culture than needs to spread and be open minded. Bring those Previously Disadvantaged rugby players from greater Durban to the games. If things carry on like how they are, we going to end up looking the Ellis Park faster than a SBW offload

  • Comment 27, posted at 09.05.11 09:55:20 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 27) : 😆 😆 Love your analogy.

  • Comment 28, posted at 09.05.11 09:58:31 by waje Reply

     
  • This apathy from home fans is like a South African disease but it does seem to be worse in Durban. Where else in South Africa would you have a Currie cup semi final that is only half full? I have unfortunately only had the privilege of going to Kings Park three times.

  • Comment 29, posted at 09.05.11 10:08:34 by war1 Reply
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  • Damn but its difficult to get more stars on here 😆

  • Comment 30, posted at 09.05.11 10:14:20 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 10) : hehehehe not so fast 😛

    this is not a new trend, sharks fans didn’t pitch for a Currie Cup semi-final against the Cheetahs in 2009 and their team after leading 18-6 at half-time lost the game with JlP slotting the game clinching drop-kick.

    Nevermind the fact that those that make it there are prone to loutish behaviour like booing of francois steyn and the pelting of stephen donald with beer cups.

  • Comment 31, posted at 09.05.11 10:14:37 by Megatron Reply

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  • So I see that Plum said after the game that there is even more pressure on him to pick Adi in the starting team now. Lets hope he does!

  • Comment 32, posted at 09.05.11 10:15:42 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Uli (Comment 20) : Again I agree, but NONE of thoseproblems are unique to Durban or KZN and the other Provinces have the same problems. Yet their stadiums are much fuller.

  • Comment 33, posted at 09.05.11 10:17:20 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 31) : I had tickets for that semi-final yet I couldn go 😥 Was working right outside of Kingspark because of the construction on Moses Mabidha

  • Comment 34, posted at 09.05.11 10:22:36 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • Was at the game on Saturday in full support of our team!!! Hope Plum does pick Adri instead of Bosman – he is far superior. The Sharks should loose Bosman and McCleod and should have kept Rory and Andries, can you imagine our side then!!! Looking forward to 21st when we play the Bulls here and will never miss a home game!!!

  • Comment 35, posted at 09.05.11 10:23:27 by Ardent Shark Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 32) : Oh so he actually realises it now. All hope is not lost it seems.

  • Comment 36, posted at 09.05.11 10:24:04 by Ben Reply
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  • I think McCleod will get his game back, he showed glimpses again. But it seems as if Bosman isn’t playing with any hart.

  • Comment 37, posted at 09.05.11 10:28:38 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 36) : 😈

  • Comment 38, posted at 09.05.11 10:30:16 by Charlie Reply

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  • I think KZN road zero tollerance has alot to do with it now ,guys cant go out and have two or three beers then they would rather stay at home ,unless they make the girl friend or wife drive and then you have to store up brownie points for months and months.

    Another thing is people would just rather watch it on tv …
    Marketed at families with young childeren they missing many segments that they are not catering for.

  • Comment 39, posted at 09.05.11 10:43:11 by Talent Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 32) : if he doesn’t pick adi then we’ll know he is a chop! what more does he need to see that meyer is rubbish atm?

  • Comment 40, posted at 09.05.11 10:53:59 by Megatron Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) :

    Hell, apart from the rugby, the Kings Park experience is 1000 times better than anything else I’ve experienced at any other rugby stadium anywhere in the world.

    Really ❓

  • Comment 41, posted at 09.05.11 10:55:04 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 11) :the cost for us coming from far is big, but if you stay close : u have to eat any case, drink too, drive to the shop too.. Only the entrance fee, which is a bargain considering u,re watching a sharks game live…

  • Comment 42, posted at 09.05.11 10:55:14 by franshark Reply
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  • lets do a facebook flash party……we could fill the stadium in no time!!!! Lets do it for the team!!!! Shock the country! 😈 😈 😈 😈

  • Comment 43, posted at 09.05.11 10:55:37 by weeman Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 40) : Swanepoel at 12 and Adi at 13 is what I would like to see!

  • Comment 44, posted at 09.05.11 10:55:39 by Ben Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 40) :

    Tom Marshall isn’t ! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 45, posted at 09.05.11 10:56:19 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 41) : it is always great to be there 🙂

  • Comment 46, posted at 09.05.11 11:00:59 by franshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 42) : I think the drink/drive is a factor…

  • Comment 47, posted at 09.05.11 11:02:32 by franshark Reply
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  • Me, I go at least 3 games in a season, costing around 2grand a trip, if I were staing close I would have been there as much as possible.. 🙁

  • Comment 48, posted at 09.05.11 11:05:51 by franshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 46) : 😉

    Must put it on my ‘Bucket List’ 😎

  • Comment 49, posted at 09.05.11 11:18:52 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 49) : definitely

  • Comment 50, posted at 09.05.11 11:25:05 by franshark Reply
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  • @waje (Comment 23) : nope, i disagreeHR-E is not the problem, the problem was THERE before he was roped in by plum…what has the duo pf Bashford & Boyd done in the past 3 years with the Sharks backs?

  • Comment 51, posted at 09.05.11 11:27:07 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 44) : swannie – at least the FAT version – is as impotent on attack as meyer & dries strauss are. sure he will make the tackles but you’ll still be useless on attack.

  • Comment 52, posted at 09.05.11 11:30:28 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 52) : Yes but like I said earlier I would want to see Adi playing outside Meyer before I write Meyer off. Stef has been consistantly poorer throughout the season. Would just like to see Adi and Swannoie together to see what happens. Swannie has lost some weight and is looking much better.

  • Comment 53, posted at 09.05.11 11:34:46 by Ben Reply
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  • Maybe this combination would work.

    10. JLP
    12. Lambie
    13. Adi

    Lambie distributes well and could possibly create some space for Adi.

  • Comment 54, posted at 09.05.11 11:37:03 by Pokkel Reply
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  • So far I’ve only missed 3 home games in the last 3 years years

  • Comment 55, posted at 09.05.11 11:37:06 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 54) : No thank you. Not for me.

  • Comment 56, posted at 09.05.11 11:38:20 by Ben Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 54) : Bosman at 10 perhaps

  • Comment 57, posted at 09.05.11 11:40:21 by Talent Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 51) : Boyd? I’d forgotten about him

  • Comment 58, posted at 09.05.11 11:47:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • Guys guys guys. We should be happy with our 20000. They all supported the Sharks this past this weekend. We even had more supporters than those cheering for the Stormers 😉

  • Comment 59, posted at 09.05.11 11:57:41 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 54) : no, not for me either, lambie should stay 10.

  • Comment 60, posted at 09.05.11 12:09:14 by franshark Reply
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  • Mocho 😆 if you didn’t know better one would have thought the game was being played at AMI!

    And in 3 years I have missed only 2 home games, I travel 90 kms one way to see the Sharks play have sat through rain, driven through rain, storms and mist to watch my team. Worked hard for brownie points with hubby who hates rugby to go to shout for my Sharks; and spent a fortune in support of this my Sharks team. Now it would be nice if this same team would return the favour and play rugby the full 80 minutes instead of delivering 40 mins here and there :evil:.

  • Comment 61, posted at 09.05.11 12:20:49 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 31) : Booing of own players and pelting of opposition players is just not on. Another unfortunate trend, although I haven’t been to Kings Park in a while, so not sure if it is stll prevalent, is the booing of opposing players when lining up a kick at posts. It’s unsportmanlike, disrespectful, and unbecoming of supporters of (arguably) one the better unions in world rugby.

  • Comment 62, posted at 09.05.11 12:22:16 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 61) : As they say, ” the more things change, the more things stay the same” lol

    We should also try and get East Coast Radio to start doing a show at the rugby. The should be there for the build up. That should encourage the supporters

  • Comment 63, posted at 09.05.11 12:30:27 by Mocho Reply

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  • Mocho ECR really irritate me, I was in Pretoria Last year for a conference and on the radio all you heard was about the Bulls ECR have a sportswave that interviews all rugby players other than the Sharks players I guess like CT is geared towards foreign visitors so the eastcoast is geared toward the Gautengers 👿

  • Comment 64, posted at 09.05.11 12:47:14 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 59) : Haha that’s true I only saw one guy with a old brumbies jersey, and one guy with a 1995 Wallabies jersey

  • Comment 65, posted at 09.05.11 12:55:57 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 59) : SA people that support the Crusaders are so sad! Glory hunters really piss me off!

  • Comment 66, posted at 09.05.11 12:58:25 by Ben Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 45) : well to, marshall has hardly STARTED all the games this season has he?

    a player i enjoy watching is Ben Smith, wow, such balance, quick accelaration, handling and offloading is superb…future all black!

    i had to laugh when TJ on reunion was talking about B.Smith and hoe he hopes the NZRU will keep him in NZ “instead of him ending uo in some dark corner of the world where he’ll be made to field high kicks the time” :mrgreen: Taine Randell couldn’r contain himself hehehe

  • Comment 67, posted at 09.05.11 13:00:58 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 66) : The Cape(d) Crusaders. :mrgreen:

    Allow me to play devil’s advocate here*. Surely what they are doing is no different to what SA ‘soccer fans’ are doing by supporting European clubs?

    *I don’t really care who or why they ‘support’. 😈 🙂

  • Comment 68, posted at 09.05.11 13:48:00 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 68) : which European club is involved in any competition with Ajax Cape Town where one would be expected to support the saffa team?

  • Comment 69, posted at 09.05.11 14:11:30 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 69) : Are you saying that if Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea or whoever showed up in Cape Town (or anywhere in SA) tomorrow to play even a friendly there won’t be any locals supporting them instead of the local side? 😈

    But like I said, I don’t care who people support or for what reason. It’s a free country. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 70, posted at 09.05.11 14:16:34 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 70) : of course there have been and there will probably be more in the future.

    the problem with this country re football is one of perception “soccer is for them and rugby is ours” a perception borne out of ignorance!

  • Comment 71, posted at 09.05.11 14:44:39 by Megatron Reply

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  • Very true Rob.

    Newlands really setting the pace, crowd attendance wise . . .

  • Comment 72, posted at 09.05.11 14:53:03 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 72) : Until the Stormers start losing again. Isn’t that what it is about? Loftus was full until the tour. The Chiefs game had an empty stadium. Look at the attendance at the Hurricanes Blues game on Friday. This isn’t a uniquely Durban problem. Pity there isn’t a site that keeps record of attendances.

  • Comment 73, posted at 09.05.11 15:01:16 by waje Reply

     
  • @waje (Comment 73) : Newlands is the exception. Good or bad the fans come.

  • Comment 74, posted at 09.05.11 15:17:47 by McLovin Reply

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  • Can u guys still remember the day’s when sabc sport tried to block the signal of sport within a certain radius from the stadium so to force people to go and watch live…its an old problem this..

  • Comment 75, posted at 09.05.11 15:21:25 by franshark Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 71) : Wasn’t having a go at soccer. Simply used it as an example as it’s such a high profile sport with plenty of supporters the world over.

    My point is simply that imo supporting the Crusaders (or any other Kiwi/Aussie rugby team) is no different from supporting an overseas team in soccer, cricket, tiddlywinks or any other sport you wish to pick. 🙂

  • Comment 76, posted at 09.05.11 15:24:20 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 76) : 100% agree. if Man United came to Durban i doubt i would be shouting for Amazulu. and for some reason i can not support the bulls…..

  • Comment 77, posted at 09.05.11 15:31:12 by weeman Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 71) : @McLovin (Comment 76) : don’t u just love this, two province supporters having a tuffel about soccer on a sharks rugby blogg… 😉 🙂 🙂

  • Comment 78, posted at 09.05.11 15:34:52 by franshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 78) : Is Megs a Province supporter? 😯

  • Comment 79, posted at 09.05.11 15:37:23 by McLovin Reply

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  • Soccer in SA is at a very low standard. Rugby and cricket isn’t. Thus I would support a rugby and cricket team from SA and I would support a football club from overseas. I support Chelsea.

  • Comment 80, posted at 09.05.11 15:41:08 by Ben Reply
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  • @waje (Comment 73) : The average crowd that has attended Stormers matches at Newlands since the inception of the Stormers brand in 1998 is 37,531. 😎

  • Comment 81, posted at 09.05.11 15:41:29 by McLovin Reply

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  • Even during the worst years in terms of performance from the Stormers in 2006 & 2007 the average attendance was still around 30,000. 😎

  • Comment 82, posted at 09.05.11 15:47:11 by McLovin Reply

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  • The problem is the people in Durban is spoiled with good weather during winter times. We moved from the FS (always a Sharks supported) and will go through rain , wind etc. But the true Durbanites cannot take a drop of rain or a hint of cold. Problem nr 2 is the lack of parking. We used to have the outer fields of the old soccer stadium. Now you have to walk very far and the Durbanites are very lazy and laid back. So if the Sharks want support , they need good weather, closer parking AND a team that performs. I only miss a game if I cannot help is (like a family wedding on the finals of the currie cup) I am still unhappy about that

  • Comment 83, posted at 09.05.11 15:54:47 by Stef Reply

     
  • @McLovin (Comment 82) : I doubt that!

  • Comment 84, posted at 09.05.11 15:57:01 by Uli Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 79) : oops! 😳 ag u know I like to shake your cage, sounded good saying it.

  • Comment 85, posted at 09.05.11 15:57:51 by franshark Reply
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  • @Stef (Comment 83) :
    (like a family wedding on the finals of the currie cup)…that is just unacceptable!!! 😯

  • Comment 86, posted at 09.05.11 15:58:20 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 80) : and what a game yesterday was hey? whats gonna happen with Ancelotti? papers seem to speculate that he is on his way to Roma… Its easy to let the guy go, but who would replace him?

  • Comment 87, posted at 09.05.11 15:58:54 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @Stef (Comment 83) : ouch

  • Comment 88, posted at 09.05.11 15:58:58 by franshark Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 76) : i know what your point is/was, i’m saying to you no it is not…because Man Yoo are NOT in a YEARLY competition with Ajax Cape Town for instance where a saffa/capetonian would be expected to support the local team.

    Support for the Crusaders is an extension of the support the All Blacks enjoy from a certain demographic in that part of the world, nothing more nothing less. And the fact that they’ve been soooo successful in Super Rugby attracts those people as it is an easy way to say “stuff you” to whomever they have a historical grip with..

    how come the Highlanders didn’t get the same kind of support earlier this year at Newlands if those people genuinely support kiwi sides?

    it’s all meant to be a big “up yours” 😀

  • Comment 89, posted at 09.05.11 16:00:23 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 86) : Yip, but what do you expect, they are Bulls supports. Luckily my daughter was at the game (she refused to go to the wedding) and send me sms’s the whole time. Slipped away early and saw the last 10 min on TV.

  • Comment 90, posted at 09.05.11 16:01:43 by Stef Reply

     
  • @McLovin (Comment 82) : I tend to agree with stormers filling the stadiums, some bulls supporters here is forever pestering me that when the sharks loose the stadium gets emptier by the weekend.

  • Comment 91, posted at 09.05.11 16:02:32 by franshark Reply
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  • I think its more a case of Durban people having way more things to do than the good souls of Cape Town…..a sea that can be fully utilised to swim, surf, fish, play in and not just to look at, real mountains to hike in and climb and real game reserves as opposed to identifying different hues of fynbos in national parks. 😈

  • Comment 92, posted at 09.05.11 16:04:31 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Stef (Comment 90) : I just wanted to ask who did that…..

  • Comment 93, posted at 09.05.11 16:04:42 by franshark Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 86) : Yip, but what do you expect, they are Bulls supporters. Luckily my daughter was at the game( she refuse to go to the wedding) and sms me all the time. Slipped away early and could see the last 10 minutes

  • Comment 94, posted at 09.05.11 16:04:53 by Stef Reply

     
  • @Megatron (Comment 89) :
    I take it as an up yours to the new South Africa – its sad.

  • Comment 95, posted at 09.05.11 16:07:55 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Stef (Comment 94) : o ok its all clear now 🙂

  • Comment 96, posted at 09.05.11 16:08:25 by franshark Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 79) : nope EP Kings

  • Comment 97, posted at 09.05.11 16:11:44 by Megatron Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 87) : I say can the idiot. Really can’t see the use of a manager in the ENGLISH premier that can barely speak english. How does he motivate his players at half time? I would love for Jose to come back to Chelsea but I highly doubt that.

  • Comment 98, posted at 09.05.11 16:13:13 by Ben Reply
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  • Why is the Stomers ahead of the Crusaders on the log if the Saders have 44 and Stormers 43?

  • Comment 99, posted at 09.05.11 16:14:58 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 89) : I’m fully aware of the reasons for this ‘certain demographic’s support of kiwi sides. I’m saying I don’t care. 😈

    Whether there’s an official league of some sorts or not is irrelevant to me.

    But lets say for arguments sake that some local soccer teams were included in the champions league, we would then see plenty of locals supporting the best Euro sides. Exactly the same thing to me, even if their personal reasons for doing so are different. 🙂

  • Comment 100, posted at 09.05.11 16:16:22 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 99) : Cause they’re better. 😉 😈

  • Comment 101, posted at 09.05.11 16:16:53 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 99) : Are you joking?!

  • Comment 102, posted at 09.05.11 16:16:58 by Ben Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 95) : nope, to the old order.

  • Comment 103, posted at 09.05.11 16:17:21 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 99) : because the 1st 3 spots go to the conference leaders! 🙄 come in Ice i trusted you…

  • Comment 104, posted at 09.05.11 16:18:41 by Megatron Reply

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  • @franshark (Comment 91) : Bulls are probably the worst when their team is not performing. 😈

  • Comment 105, posted at 09.05.11 16:18:41 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 102) : No – do I have my wires crossed again?

  • Comment 106, posted at 09.05.11 16:19:05 by Ice Reply
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  • Ahh – the winner of each conference goes through and then only do they mix ’em..

  • Comment 107, posted at 09.05.11 16:19:48 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 97) : Good for you. Would love to see them do well. 😎

  • Comment 108, posted at 09.05.11 16:20:23 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 104) : I realised that! 😆 Just a simple moment of madness – accept my momentarily insanity plea… 😉

  • Comment 109, posted at 09.05.11 16:21:19 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 107) : Good thing you didn’t win Lady Rugga! 🙂

  • Comment 110, posted at 09.05.11 16:23:18 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 107) : zigzacly 🙂

  • Comment 111, posted at 09.05.11 16:23:34 by franshark Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 110) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 112, posted at 09.05.11 16:24:11 by Ice Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 101) : ja sure!!! Good luck with that one in court 🙂

  • Comment 113, posted at 09.05.11 16:24:42 by franshark Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 110) : Hey – I know I am not perfect – but I am pretty darn close! 😈 😆

  • Comment 114, posted at 09.05.11 16:25:22 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 110) : ouch

  • Comment 115, posted at 09.05.11 16:25:28 by franshark Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 103) :
    As I am living in the new SA I cant fathom out how one is giving the old order the “stuff you” by supporting a winning foreign team. Im sorry, in my book its the opposite and an up yours to where we are today, despite what these people may say. Then again it is propbably a Cape thing.

  • Comment 116, posted at 09.05.11 16:28:38 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 110) : exactly :mrgreen: imagine lady rugga stumped on international tv as to why the stormers are above the Saders 🙄 😎

  • Comment 117, posted at 09.05.11 16:40:16 by Megatron Reply

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  • Supporting a team like the Crusaders if your a south african has got absolutely nothing to do with Politics, imo. Its all about being a glory hunter and supporting a succesfull club. Nobody likes losing and these people have chosen their team to experience the losing feeling almost never.

  • Comment 118, posted at 09.05.11 16:41:16 by Ben Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 117) : LolB that wouldn’t be good for business.

  • Comment 119, posted at 09.05.11 16:43:13 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 119) : and then the commentator reply’s… Because they are better. 🙂

  • Comment 120, posted at 09.05.11 16:48:35 by franshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 116) : it is not a cape thing but sure it predominatly occurs there…there fact that it still irritates some in our country is fuel for those people to do it…

    try saying the Bok emblem should be scrapped and out team called the Proteas and see how much passion you will raise out of people, now, imagine an aggrieved lot who grew up not liking the same bok emblem but are now “expected” to just bury the hatchet…well they haven’t burried it and that’s their choice 😀

  • Comment 121, posted at 09.05.11 16:52:55 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 118) : the saders get beaten… 😆

  • Comment 122, posted at 09.05.11 16:54:44 by Megatron Reply

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  • @franshark (Comment 120) : The commentator will say something like, “its because the stormers has only had one bye so far.” 🙂

  • Comment 123, posted at 09.05.11 16:54:53 by Ben Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 122) : I know Megatroll. But I’m sure you get my point.

  • Comment 124, posted at 09.05.11 16:57:04 by Ben Reply
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  • None of u 2 asswipes ever had a temp month of insanity??? 🙄 at least I don’t mistake Lambie for Frans Verstaan like some contestants…imagine how she would have stuffed the log up! 😆

  • Comment 125, posted at 09.05.11 17:03:07 by Ice Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 75) : They still do that for American Football (NFL). If a stadium is not sold out, the television coverage is blacked out within 100 miles of the stadium.

  • Comment 126, posted at 09.05.11 17:03:41 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 121) :
    Ok, so its all about the emblem so if the Bok went then they would all be happy..I some how doubt it.
    As you say we are free to support who we want, I just dont really understand it. Having said that I was very grateful for the fantastic support the Crusaders got on Saturday.

  • Comment 127, posted at 09.05.11 17:04:53 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Moment..blooming auto text!

  • Comment 128, posted at 09.05.11 17:05:01 by Ice Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 126) : And it works, I can’t remember the last time a NFL match was not sold out, and we are talking about 16 matches every week.

  • Comment 129, posted at 09.05.11 17:05:50 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 125) : You know me mos Icey. I’m kiddin around! 😉

  • Comment 130, posted at 09.05.11 17:07:01 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 130) : u cut me real deep, shrek! 😆

  • Comment 131, posted at 09.05.11 17:09:16 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 131) : Shrek???

  • Comment 132, posted at 09.05.11 17:10:37 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 124) : glory hunting is only but a part of it and not the whole as you would like us to believe. trust me i know quite a number of people who are if the same ilk.

  • Comment 133, posted at 09.05.11 17:11:44 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 133) : Let me put it like this, the glory hunting explenation is the only one we are allowed to discuss on this site. 😉

  • Comment 134, posted at 09.05.11 17:14:36 by Ben Reply
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  • Ben – your comment was ogre-ish! 😉

  • Comment 135, posted at 09.05.11 17:15:30 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 135) : LOL. Okay thanx Ice! 🙂

  • Comment 136, posted at 09.05.11 17:17:45 by Ben Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 126) : I’ll say that’s why I stay in Newcsastle, its near enough to go if I want to but out off the blogged radius 🙂

  • Comment 137, posted at 09.05.11 17:19:11 by franshark Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 134) : hehehehe i know 😕 :mrgreen: i tried to be as PC as i could while typing responses 😛

  • Comment 138, posted at 09.05.11 17:19:41 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 121) :
    You are right about the reasons some people support the AB sides, but there are plenty who do so just for the exciting brand of rugby.

    Mclovin’s attitude to this is the most fair-minded, but it still sticks in my craw to see ANY foreign side supported by Saffers above a local side.

    If Man U came here, I would be wearing my Ajax colours to that game. Patriotism to my country is one foolishness I indulge myself in unashamedly.

  • Comment 139, posted at 09.05.11 17:21:40 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 139) : Amen to your last paragraph. 😎

  • Comment 140, posted at 09.05.11 17:25:55 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 139) : Good for you big feesh! So I take it you watch the psl then? And why don’t you support a football team from the KZN?

  • Comment 141, posted at 09.05.11 17:26:20 by Ben Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 139) :
    If it really comes to it (and thankfully it hasn’t yet) I’m a Springbok fan first and a Shark second.

  • Comment 142, posted at 09.05.11 17:26:53 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 139) : sure thing it’s good that u’re a patriot, i support the EP Kings and no other saffa union.

  • Comment 143, posted at 09.05.11 17:31:31 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 143) : EP kings fall under or used to fall under the Sharks when it comes to Super rugby. So surely you must support them as well! 🙂

  • Comment 144, posted at 09.05.11 17:39:47 by Ben Reply
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  • So I did a bit of research from a couple of my friends in CT. They inform me that because SBW is the first Muslim international famous rugby player the Cape Malays came to support him. . . My friends insisted that although they were quite a lot of them who were there only because of SBW, it was not them who were roudy. More it was those traditional All Black supporters who think its 1970 that were the trouble makers.

  • Comment 145, posted at 09.05.11 17:39:49 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 141) :
    Be careful on the assumptions there Ben.

    I’m not a soccer fan (though I played for many years), but I watched many a game at the Athlone stadium, and even a big Ajax/ Santos derby at Newlands once.

    @Megatron (Comment 143) :
    We will make a Shark of you yet.

    There must be some reason you grace us with your presence rather than other fan sites.

  • Comment 146, posted at 09.05.11 17:41:30 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 145) : Didn’t know SBW is a muslim?

  • Comment 147, posted at 09.05.11 17:42:16 by Ben Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 146) : So I am a football fan. And thus the English leagues has far higher standerds than the psl. That’s why I only watch the english league. Not like I prefer the England soccer team over the Bafana Bafana team. Will still support SA when it comes to the international stuff.

  • Comment 148, posted at 09.05.11 17:47:26 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 118) : ha ha 😆
    I do support Sharks because I do not experience any stress during the weekend and I wanted to on par with the rest of the nation :mrgreen:

  • Comment 149, posted at 09.05.11 17:55:32 by rekinek Reply
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  • I watched snippets from few Magners League games and there the crowd is rather vocal despite being small (often less than 10K) so I guess it is not so much about the attendance.

    I guess Durban crowd is more laid back that’s all.

    Although I think I would go to the stadium more often should I live in Durban I can quite understand that people think it’s easier to watch the game on tv.

  • Comment 150, posted at 09.05.11 17:59:29 by rekinek Reply
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  • My friends in Cape Town inform me that the reason why there was strong support for the Saders, is that SBW is the first popular muslim rugby player. The cape Malays are big rugby supporters and supported the saders for that reason. They did emphasis that they were not the roudy bunch lol as it was the older guys from other parts of cape town

  • Comment 151, posted at 09.05.11 18:23:59 by Mocho Reply

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  • Sorry for the repeat my phone is going bonkers

  • Comment 152, posted at 09.05.11 18:26:35 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 147) : yeah mate. He had a drinking problem and in 2008 turned to spirituality

  • Comment 153, posted at 09.05.11 18:28:34 by Mocho Reply

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  • I heard Cipriani was booted because of his latest drinking spree…

  • Comment 154, posted at 09.05.11 18:32:58 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 154) : He’s a real snotkop.

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