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Silly season comes around again


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Stormers, Super Rugby on 10 May 2011 at 06:51
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With the Northern Hemisphere season reaching its close, I suppose it’s par for the course that another round of so-called “silly season” transfer rumours should start to come up. Two stories in particular, both concerning players with Sharks ties, are worth some discussion.

The first is that former Sharks halfback Ruan Pienaar, on completion of his duties with Irish club Ulster, may be made available to join a South African side (looking likely to be the Stormers) on loan. The story first broke over the weekend, with JJ Harmse suggesting that the Bulls were the most likely recipients of Pienaar’s services, regardless of how little sense that would make. A source close to the player told Sharksworld on Sunday that there was no truth whatsoever to the story, but things seem to have moved on a little from then, perhaps even without Pienaar’s knowledge!

Recent press stories have the player’s agent, Gerrie Swart, confirming that discussions with the Stormers are indeed taking place, although Ulster themselves would still need to agree to any such move. Talk that a spot on the Stormers tour group in being specifically kept open for Pienaar would then seem a little premature. I for one can’t understand why the player, who left South Africa last year in a huff about being messed around (and forced to shift positions willy-nilly) would be doing anything at all at the behest of the Bok coach, who is understood to be the driving force behind this move. Peter de Villiers apparently wants Pienaar to be playing Super Rugby in order to come into contention for World Cup selection later this year. Pienaar’s stated preference for the number 9 jersey was one of the strongest reasons given for his decision to move North and it would then remain to be seen where the Stormers opt to use him, given that they have already named two scrumhalves in their tour party.

The other story is that John Smit is looking to join Saracens at the end of the domestic season and with the story even appearing in the British newspapers yesterday, there may just be a shred of truth to this one. The English club have refused to confirm anything, although media sources in South Africa seem pretty certain that this one is happening. Smit was widely expected to announce his retirement after the World Cup, although it now seems that he will only retire from international rugby and will look to play on for a year or two while transitioning into a coaching role.

Our understanding is that the Sharks are keen to keep him on their books post 2011 with exactly that sort of player-coach role in mind, but if there is indeed a deal with Saracens on the table, it will undoubtedly be a far more lucrative one than he could expect in Durban. The captain will, no doubt, find himself weighing up the pros and cons of such a move, with the fact that he has a settled family life in Durban and many business interests in the area hopefully swaying his decision in favour of staying put.

Be aware that both of these stories are currently unconfirmed and we’ll be sure to update you once we have more of an idea of what’s actually going on.


73 Comments

  • Half the rumours on RP are wishful thinking.

    Guys are saying he will go to the Bulls to play flayhalf??? As Rob said above the guy left ‘coz he was being stuffed around and not playing 9. Now come back to play 10? Yeah right.

    Stormers keeping a spot open just for him yet as Rob says they already have 2 scrumhalves and I believe 2 flyhalves on tour. Yeah that spot must be for him.

    Silly season pisses me off, because people add 2 and 2 and come up with the answer they most desire to be true.

  • Comment 1, posted at 10.05.11 07:06:57 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 1) : Which is 9…. or 10 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 2, posted at 10.05.11 07:10:49 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Silly season indeed.

    Thanx for the update Rob, will have to wait until it is confirmed before commenting on this..

  • Comment 3, posted at 10.05.11 07:11:17 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Agreed KSA, it makes me mad that some dutchman Bulls journalist thought of this fantastic rumour and now has everybody in a huff..

    Get a life, or a job!

  • Comment 4, posted at 10.05.11 07:13:21 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • I for one hope Pienaar never sees a Bulls jersey.

  • Comment 5, posted at 10.05.11 07:24:20 by Ben Reply
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  • According to Ludeke he won’t just accept any player into the team. RP with The strong family unit of the Bulls seems like a far cry of reality. The stormbarians are probably much more accommodating and warm to the idea.

  • Comment 6, posted at 10.05.11 07:31:44 by Mocho Reply

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  • As much as I dislike Ruan he will be a welcome addition to the Stormers squad.
    Duvenage is crap and Ricky overweight and inconsistent.
    Stiek uit Ruan. 😈

  • Comment 7, posted at 10.05.11 07:37:33 by wpw Reply
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  • Another story in the Mercury is that Marius Joubert could be coming to the Sharks sooner than expected if Clermont lose this Saturday. I guess we got a game to watch this weekend.

  • Comment 8, posted at 10.05.11 07:40:35 by Mocho Reply

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  • POSSIBLE BEST KEPT SECRET OF 2011
    This is an unconfirmed rumour so please don’t quote me on it but it’s coming thru the grapevine that the Currie Cup will be joining the Lions later this year. Seems like agent Wiz Phil Dinkin is behind this acquisition. Altho not yet certain where the Currie Cup will fit into the Lions gameplan, it’s widely believed that it will be used as a catchment for the residue that pours thru their leaky defence.

  • Comment 9, posted at 10.05.11 08:14:34 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 9) : LMAO! 😀

  • Comment 10, posted at 10.05.11 08:24:40 by Mocho Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 9) :
    Beet seeing as you are the schools rugby boffin can you help me out here.

    Recently someone posted that Marcel Coetzee did not make the KZN Craven week teams. If so do you know how he progressed to where he is now. Is he at the Academy or is he just club affiliated. If at the academy is he there on his own steam or is he on a a bursary. Basically I would like to know if someone at the KZNRU had identified his potential even though he never made the representative sides at school level?

  • Comment 11, posted at 10.05.11 08:59:56 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 7) : that would be particularly unwelcome since he could take the stormers up a notch.

    BTW. From the Belfast Telepgraph

    Pienaar voted player of season at Magners Awards
    By Niall Crozier
    Tuesday, 10 May 2011

    Ulster were handed a massive boost ahead of Friday’s crunch clash with Leinster last night with Ruan Pienaar voted the Players’ Player of the season.

    The award, voted for by Pienaar’s peers in the Magners League, couldn’t have been timed any better for both the player and his team-mates as they head to the RDS on Friday for the biggest game of their season.

    The play-off semi-final against Leinster will give South African Pienaar another big stage on which to display his talents and to a large extent Ulster’s hopes of success will hinge on his performance.

    Whether it’s been at outhalf or scrumhalf Pienaar has excelled this season and twice in recent matches he’s scored the winning points with the last kick of the game — showing that he has great mental strength to go with undoubted playing ability….

  • Comment 12, posted at 10.05.11 10:03:04 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 12) : also saw the arti on keo but thought that if I post anything from there I’m afraid Rob not only would ban me from the site but also send some strong men after me – so I chickened :mrgreen:

  • Comment 13, posted at 10.05.11 10:04:30 by rekinek Reply
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  • Me thinks it’s Divvies wishful thinking.

    I read that Pienaar and Stey are to play Baa Baas end of June – so when exactly are they to play S15 ? Like 2 weeks?

  • Comment 14, posted at 10.05.11 10:09:56 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 5) : i wouldn’t mind if he comes to the Sharks on loan. Me afraids Charl could do well with some benching.

  • Comment 15, posted at 10.05.11 10:11:32 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 15) : I will welcome him back at the Sharks with an open heart.

  • Comment 16, posted at 10.05.11 10:25:50 by Ben Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 11) : To be honest I rely on Rob’s articles for Academy background information. I don’t know how the systems and bursaries work at the Academy, so I have no clue which local players are there on their own steam. I know that Hans Scriba, Roelof and co have different measurements, objectives and criteria to the KZN schools selectors, so it’s possible they saw something in Marcell that the KZN selectors didn’t or didn’t have an opportunity to witness. Here’s a good example: Stefan Ungerer , the current M/College no.9 and captain this year, an outstanding player in 2010, was overlooked by the schools selectors for the top 2 representative teams last year. This effectively translates to them believing that 4 scrumhalves were better than him. Yet just a month and a bit after C/Week, guess who was playing Sharks u19 C/Cup while the other 4 scrummies watched from the stands – Stefan Ungerer.
    With regards to schools rugby I’m a lot more clued up. The process of selecting the KZN schools Craven Week team starts this week with 1st round trials. Unfortunately this is what it comes down to in many cases particularly for kids from smaller schools – performing well at these trials coz of just about all for them it will be the first time selectors get to see them in action. Many of the selectors are from the big KZN schools. They are involved coaching and only get to see their team and usually the players from the big school they play against on a Saturday. I’m no different. I could tell you about every player from the 1st team of Kearsney, Glenwood, Westville, College, DHS and a bit about Michaelhouse, Northwood and George Campbell this year. However ask me about talented players from Port Natal, St Charles, Voortrekker etc I’m clueless. So I think it’s either today or tomorrow, Port Natal will sent a handful of hopefuls to South Durban trials to try and make a first time impression, playing against “well-known” players. Very difficult.
    To add to the difficulties, Craven Week, the selectors are only allowed to select 22 players, so utility players are part and parcel of the package + there is a strict requirement laid down by Craven Week officials which the selectors have to factor in. Our first choice l/fwds in 2009 were Kleinhans, Jafta and Groenewald. They formed a pretty good trio back then and although selections are always subject to debate, these selections made sense in 2009. Last year Kleinhans was excellent in u19 but there was little to separate Jafta , Coetzee and a few other l/fwds. This year Marcell is the star and it looks like the selectors got it wrong in 2009, but maybe they didn’t??? Only the people who watched both Marcell and the other candidates playing that year can answer this. I don’t think there are too many to be honest.

  • Comment 17, posted at 10.05.11 10:40:49 by beet Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 13) :

    Rob is not allowed to ban anyone before speaking to his Board members!! 😈

    Dont worry Reki, you’ve grown on me since you joined the site – I wont allow him to ban you!! :mrgreen: 😯

  • Comment 18, posted at 10.05.11 10:42:56 by wpw Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 17) :
    Thanks Beet, appreciate the effort in writing all that.
    Are you involved in schools rugby or is it just an interest / passion of yours?

  • Comment 19, posted at 10.05.11 10:48:45 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 18) : we don’t have a board here… you must be suffering from flashbacks 🙂

  • Comment 20, posted at 10.05.11 10:55:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : Yeah…you have Rob and off course the Queen… 😆

  • Comment 21, posted at 10.05.11 10:59:09 by Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : no board… Even I have one…. A dart board, actually I have another, a finger board… 🙂

  • Comment 22, posted at 10.05.11 11:00:27 by franshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 19) : It’s just an interest. It’s very entertaining and the standard of rugby is really good. Some of the games draw huge crowds. Last year Paarl Gym vs Paarl Boys High 25000 people, MHS Hilton last year 16000, Grey Bloem Glenwood 10000. That’s more people than a lot of Euro club rugby matches.

  • Comment 23, posted at 10.05.11 11:10:56 by beet Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 18) : 😎 so now that we are girlfriends we can swop our hairdressers’ details :mrgreen:

  • Comment 24, posted at 10.05.11 11:12:15 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : @Ice (Comment 21) : IMO it’s much easier to look out for one person but I’m counting on some gender bias from the Queen 😉

  • Comment 25, posted at 10.05.11 11:15:30 by rekinek Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 23) : I went to Hilton MHS last Saturday and somebody mentioned that there were between 15 000 – 20 000 people in attendance.
    Unbelievable atmosphere with all the school war cries. Though scores were more like a test rugby.

  • Comment 26, posted at 10.05.11 11:17:31 by rekinek Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 17) : What do you think of the WBHS loosehead prop. Jason De Broize. He has just been accepted at the academy for next year.

    He is newish to KZN as he grew up in the Middle East and this is his 1st season at WBHS.

  • Comment 27, posted at 10.05.11 11:17:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • UK papers saying the Smit deal is a done deal. Heard anymore Rob?

  • Comment 28, posted at 10.05.11 11:19:36 by Sportbilly Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 18) :

    That mouth writing cheques your body can’t cash again. 😉

  • Comment 29, posted at 10.05.11 11:20:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 3) : And Rich where the hell is my Superbru 6N 2011 Medal? 😉

  • Comment 30, posted at 10.05.11 11:20:32 by Sportbilly Reply

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  • @Sportbilly (Comment 28) : Needs to build a pension fund sooner or later…makes me wonder if Oupa Stefan had started… 😈

  • Comment 31, posted at 10.05.11 11:23:29 by Charlie Reply

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  • “The “AN Other” that the Stormers listed at the end of their touring squad that was announced on Saturday night may well be a spot being kept open for Ruan Pienaar.” – from News 24 – more and more pressie joining into RP rumour.

  • Comment 32, posted at 10.05.11 11:25:52 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 31) : Think Stef did that in Wales.

  • Comment 33, posted at 10.05.11 11:29:57 by Ben Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 32) : They would be stupid doing that. The Semis are this coming weekend meaning he will miss 1 of their tour games.

    If Ulster makes the final he will miss 3 of the Stormers tour games and only arrive a day or 3 before the final tour match for the Stormers.

    Besides they have 2 scrumhalves on tour already.

  • Comment 34, posted at 10.05.11 11:30:43 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 26) : Who won and what was the score?

  • Comment 35, posted at 10.05.11 11:31:16 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 35) : Hilton won the main game (ie. 1st XV) 18 – 14
    and others are
    Hilton – MHS
    2nd lost 7-10
    3rd lost 10-19
    4th lost 12-62
    5th won 25-10
    6th won 12-5
    7th won 13-12
    8th won 24-19

    16A won 12-3

    So the main games are quite close.

  • Comment 36, posted at 10.05.11 11:35:56 by rekinek Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 34) : i’m counting 6 games + playoffs left. Plus as mentioned he may be in Baas Baas squad so if Ulster makes the final it’s at least 6 – 3 .

    Makes little sense to me, but if Stormers are in playoffs then who knows.

  • Comment 37, posted at 10.05.11 11:40:00 by rekinek Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 27) : To be honest KSA, in the last game I watched, Jason didn’t really stand out. I was a lot more impressed by this compatriot Sithole who did well in the scrums and got thru quite a bit of work in the loose. I’ve got 2 more WHBS games lined up this season and they’re biggies vs College and Glenwood, so I can report back to you on these if you like.
    In my mock draft KZN team, I’ve ided TH as a position up for grabs this year, so altho I wouldn’t count on it, I think he has an outside chance. His height of 1.80m will make him a good fit coz we’ll have a light scrum and will need to try and get under our CW opponents but I think the selectors will be looking out for a bit more than the 100kg of weight that he carries.

  • Comment 38, posted at 10.05.11 11:40:14 by beet Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 36) : Did you see any players that impressed you? When I watched MHS vs Westville they were poor. I noticed that Josh Moon had been moved to inside centre, is he still there or back at flank?

  • Comment 39, posted at 10.05.11 11:41:49 by beet Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 33) : 😈

  • Comment 40, posted at 10.05.11 11:41:50 by Charlie Reply

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  • The Ulster guys are really pissed of at this rumour. They really trying to persuade Ruan to sign an extension to his contact. Some are even saying they should let him go and play Super Rugby under one condition: that he extends his contract.

  • Comment 41, posted at 10.05.11 11:45:08 by Mocho Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 39) : i would need to consult the programme 😉
    To be honest it being my first schoolboy rugby experience i did pay too much attention to these warcries instead of watching the rugby. 😳
    It was very close game. Hilton’s flyhalf struck me as a huge guy for a back but nobody really stood out for me.

  • Comment 42, posted at 10.05.11 11:48:30 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 41) : where are you reading this?

  • Comment 43, posted at 10.05.11 11:49:06 by rekinek Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 39) : What about that Fisher guy from Westville? Incepto ne disistem!!!

  • Comment 44, posted at 10.05.11 11:53:16 by Mocho Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 13) : nobody gets banned here, i saw a blogger use the word “dutchman” on this very same thread and nothing happened 😎

  • Comment 45, posted at 10.05.11 11:55:14 by Megatron Reply

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  • 🙄 👿

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  • well for one i thing Raun should come back home

    and for Smit i think its good if he goes i think his game in SA is over after the RWC

    don’t get me wrong Smit is and was great he did wonders to the team but was it not said that he was to go on pension after the RWC

  • Comment 47, posted at 10.05.11 12:07:12 by chaz Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 44) : Very good player hey. I heard that he was instrumental in setting up the try over the weekend against DHS when he bust thru their midfield. Another feather in his cap. His clash vs Daniel Kriel of College is going to be huge. Google this: “KZN top three to take centre stage” and this “Westville win classic clash”

  • Comment 48, posted at 10.05.11 12:08:45 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 48) :
    WBHS only produces class. 😎

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  • @Megatron (Comment 45) : I’m that blogger. 😛

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  • @Megatron (Comment 45) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 50) : this blogger has connections … 🙄 I’m the ordinary one 😀

  • Comment 51, posted at 10.05.11 12:43:41 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 37) : I agree he would get enough games if he played after the tour, but to leave a spot open in a touring squad and then only have him available for 1 of those 4 games is stupid.

  • Comment 52, posted at 10.05.11 12:47:21 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 49) : Ah-ha, the Waylon Murray support group’s motivation becomes clearer by the minute. I’m surprised you didn’t jump on the Tian Meyer for centre bandwagon with Mocho a few minutes ago. 😉

  • Comment 53, posted at 10.05.11 12:48:22 by beet Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 52) : yip. unless they run out of option or play some sort of a surprise game. 😐

  • Comment 54, posted at 10.05.11 12:49:16 by rekinek Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 53) :
    I like to think I’m not a parochial supporter.

    I rated Murray because a 13 weighing 105kg+ and quick enough to play wing can’t be ignored.

    Being a Bok at 20 indicates that the promise I saw wasn’t just my memories of me old alma mater colouring my vision. 😉

  • Comment 55, posted at 10.05.11 13:35:41 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 17) :like your analysis of the selection issue for smaller schools.makes sense. Was hard to swallow though at the timw, as I played with a few guys in the early nineties at Port Natal, who certainly deserved a shot. Fondly remember our fly running circles around the Craven Week DHS fly in 91…

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  • @catfish (Comment 56) : Are you perhaps thinking of the DHS flyhalf of 1990, Chris Beukes who went on to play SA Schools? I remember Dixie Tyrell of College and I think it was Clinton Scholtz of Westville were pretty good flyhalves as well that year. Chris’ father Koos was a prominent coach in Natal at the time and I think he was a selector.

    In 1991, the MHS import from Australia named Oliver Harvey was the flyhalf. He was a really good player.

    Who was the Port Natal flyhalf?

  • Comment 57, posted at 10.05.11 14:09:28 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 53) : haha what ? I never say that with any bias. . .

    I remember one year we had tian Meyer, Chris mickelwood and waylon Murray. We also had that earles chap whose at the lions at the moment if I remember correctly. What a backline that we had thar year.

  • Comment 58, posted at 10.05.11 14:20:40 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 58) : I meant it in good spirit.
    I heard Micklewood was back in Durban playing club rugby? He was a really good schoolboy player.

  • Comment 59, posted at 10.05.11 14:32:26 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 57) : impressive memory! Heinrich Haupt. Think he did quite well u/20 level afterwards, but his knees didn’t hold up.

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 55) :

    Hou op nonsens praat velkro! 🙄 😈

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  • @catfish (Comment 60) : I was at school at the time so my memory of that period is a little better. I think it was ’92 when I went to watch College play at Porties. Porties put in a spirited performance and held a good College team to a lead of 4-3 at half time and then the floodgates opened in the 2nd half. But good times. Even club rugby was a bigger back then. U21 rugby was great. Guys like Andy Marinos, Sean Payne, Wayne Fyvie, Warren Britz, Errol Fynn played Natal u20. Tech were the dominant u21 team. They and Dbn Varsity don’t even have teams now.

  • Comment 62, posted at 10.05.11 14:54:54 by beet Reply
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  • Good times indeed! Porties 91 team lost 3-6 to DHS and 6-12 to Glenwood, beat Northwood 4-0 in a cracker!Those were the days… Thanks for the trip down mem lane.

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  • @wpw (Comment 61) : Grootvis(uitgevang) se: “Janee! Ek weet hy’s van my ou skool af, maar dis nie die enigste rede waarom ek so baie van hom hou nie. Ek kan steeds onafhanklike bydrae oor Waylon maak. Ek’s nie velkro nie. Ek is nie ‘n magneet nie! Nie! Nie! Nie!” 😛

  • Comment 64, posted at 10.05.11 15:05:03 by beet Reply
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  • @catfish (Comment 63) : Last word on 1991. Catfish I can’t remember a Natal Schools rugga player that went far from that side, but our cricket team was something else: Sean Pollock, Doug Watson, Craig Sudgen, Mark Bruyns, Lloyd Ferreira, Sven Koenig, Dale Benkenstein all had good 1st class careers.

  • Comment 65, posted at 10.05.11 15:18:06 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 65) : and Gary Gilder if I remem correctly? Did Shaun play any rugga? Think he was flyhalf?

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  • @wpw (Comment 61) :
    😆 Hou jou bek njamau. 😈

  • Comment 67, posted at 10.05.11 15:29:40 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 67) : Is dit hoe braase met mekaa weetie’s ? HO$H Pagamiesha’s !!!

  • Comment 68, posted at 10.05.11 15:32:49 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 68) :
    LMAO!!! 😆

    I won’t fight with wpw – he is way too big for me to take on.

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  • @beet (Comment 64) :

    ‘Grootvis’ is letterlik (sp?) n GROOTvis!!

    En hys n kortgat ook. 😕 😉

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  • @Charlie (Comment 68) : is julle oud Werda #A$? Lol!

  • Comment 71, posted at 10.05.11 15:44:02 by catfish Reply
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  • @catfish (Comment 66) : I think Shaun played for Beachwood but when the schools merged he focused on hockey. A guy named Solomon/s was the Northwood flyhalf. He was also a good cricketer.
    I forgot about Gilder!

  • Comment 72, posted at 10.05.11 15:50:35 by beet Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 69) : @wpw (Comment 70) : @catfish (Comment 71) : 😆 😆 😆

  • Comment 73, posted at 10.05.11 16:15:08 by Charlie Reply

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