There’s no place like home

Written by Sharon van Wyk (Shaz)

Posted in :Admin, Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 10 May 2011 at 21:32
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Something amazing happened to me on Saturday. Something which put a smile on my face bigger than the proverbial Cheshire cat’s, injected a spring in my step worthy of a July-winning thoroughbred and sent enough adrenaline zipping through my veins to make the Vic Falls gorge swing look like a playground ride…

Before you all start placing bets on what that “something” was (and I can guess at this point that some of you who know me by now will be throwing money on a certain flyhalf!) I am now going to give you a quick history lesson…

Way back in the mists of time, when I was a pretty young thang in spray-on lycra, black leather and fringed cowboy boots and hung-out with rock stars, London’s Hammersmith Odeon was my “Mecca”. It’s where I shared banter with Robert Plant, words of wisdom with James Page, got pecked on the cheek by Brian May, hammered with Lemmy Kilmister and got to witness the best rock bands in the world tread the hallowed boards. The place always gave me a buzz. Even when it was empty. It was that special.

So when I popped into Mr Price King’s Park last Friday afternoon to collect my very first media accreditation for a rugby match, the last thing I expected was to come over all Hammersmith Odeon. But I took a bit of a wrong turn somewhere and stumbled round a corner where I was stopped in my tracks by the “presence” of the empty stadium stretching out before me.

Right. History lesson dispensed with, background filled in, let’s go back to the opening paragraph, and fearless Shaz, wired like the Energizer bunny making her way to the media centre giggling to herself and wanting to stop and hug concrete pillars, stroke brick walls and kiss consecrated ground… completely in love with King’s Park. And feeling part of something completely wonderful and almost overwhelming – the Sharks family.

There I was, sat virtually between Darren Scott and Joel Stransky in the media centre, surrounded by enough testosterone to launch a gender reassignment programme, smiling from ear to ear and feeling… Well…. Like what? The rose amongst the thorns? The token bra-wearer? Danielle in the lions den? Intimidated? Out of my depth? Actually. None of them… the overwhelming amazing feeling I had was like I had come home. Darren smiled and said hi. Joel greeted me. Andy Capostagno gave me a hug (we worked together many years ago), Michael Marnewick made we welcome and, as match time approached I went outside to take up my seat and felt the love welling up inside as I took in the view of the Sharks warming up, their beautiful proud home encircling them, and me, with a protective embrace – a living monument to the Sharks family… MY family…

Wait… Hold on a minute… Before I descend into the sugary, candyfloss land of The Waltons and come over all misty-eyed… Because on Saturday the “family” had evidently got something better to do than watch a rugby match. At least that’s what the numbers (just over 21,000 in attendance) and the acres of empty seats seemed to be saying. And in spite of my (obvious) euphoria, it left me somewhat peeved and just a bit angry (and craving those cookies they have on the Dark Side…)

Please forgive me, now, because the next bit of this post is directed largely at Sharks supporters based in Durban, or with bottomless pockets, who weren’t there on Saturday… And it goes like this: If a largely ignorant (at least in rugby terms) former rock chick from Pretoria can get her sorry backside to King’s Park to watch her Sharkies in the flesh (which is the only way to watch them, believe me) what’s YOUR excuse for not being there with her?

OK. I didn’t have to buy a ticket. But if I had bought a ticket I wouldn’t exactly have bankrupted myself in the process. And it’s not like the weekend didn’t cost me in cabs, the crummy room at the Blue Waters hotel and airfare.

I cannot believe that people who have the opportunity to go and watch the Sharks play at home – at a stadium which gives ME (a woman who has seen the inside of some pretty impressive venues) absolute gooseflesh – rather stay home. Or go somewhere else.

What is wrong with you? ARE YOU MAD? Or am I mad?

Am I mad to love a bunch of misfits playing a game which can occasionally be compared to outright thuggery and playing it occasionally so dismally that I want to throw things at them and smack their naughty bottoms?

Am I mad to love the Sharks SO much that had I the means I would be there for EVERY game, to show them how much I love them? Am I mad to love the bricks, mortar and concrete that is their home SO much that it makes the hair on my arms stand up just thinking about the buzz I get when I go there?

Probably. But I’d rather die mad finding ways to get to Durban and scream for the Sharks at King’s Park stadium than squander the privilege of living in the same town as my rugby gods and watch them play on television. Or do something else entirely while they play a few kilometres down the road.

What made the Hammersmith Odeon so special was that it was always full of people who loved rock music. King’s Park, to me, is the rugby equivalent of the Hammersmith Odeon. But sadly without the crowds, it would seem.

There is NO place like home. And NO team like the Sharks. And (sorry for this because I just KNOW what’s going to come below and the whinges I am about to stir up) in my mind just NO excuse if you are able to for not combining the two and going to King’s Park to lend YOUR team your support.


  • interesting as always, the rodgering we received from the stormers the previous week definately played a hand in the poor turn out

  • Comment 1, posted at 10.05.11 23:47:06 by RuckingFun Reply
  • @RuckingFun (Comment 1) : Yes to this!
    Who can blame people for watching at home in the comfort of their own couches where they can drink beer to their hearts content and eat whatever they like (kilograms of biltong) . If you are at the stadium you will likely miss the game after aswell ,besides I feel you can analyse the game much better from tv .

    Sharon ,you have a brilliant way with words however this kind of blind faith and guilt reminds me of when I was at school and the stuff we had to put up with as juniors if we missed a 1st team match.

    The total experience has lost its appeal to be honest ,and thats what most people look for ,its not about supporting the shark-ask any of the school girls who is playing at any given game, and you will get brian habban or schalk burger as an answer.

    It is boring and thats something that needs fixing .They are losing a huge segment of the market to the night clubs around umgeni road . To me if you are over that stage in your life or to young then rugby is the place to be but that also detracts the 18-35 crowd with the hordes of screaming rugby ball kicking children .

    Blind loyalty wont get numbers down to rugby

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.05.11 00:43:40 by Talent Reply
  • I don’t think getting dismantled by the Stormers helped, but isn’t a crowd of 20 000 pretty good against the Brumbies….. surely no one would expect 50 0000 (paying members of the public) 😯

    Newlands I think gets the best crowds in SupeRugby but there are often two sets of supports there ! 😯

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.05.11 01:02:13 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 3) : nope 20 000 is not good at all, a few years ago we used to get 30 000+ for all games

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.05.11 01:05:07 by RuckingFun Reply

  • @Talent (Comment 2) : there are so many ex-natalian/ sharks supporters that have moved to cpt and gauteng, testament to this is how well our team is supported everywhere else in sa with not as many left in kzn. we were probably the only team that would attract 30 000+ supporters in london with only 2 weeks planning

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.05.11 01:09:31 by RuckingFun Reply

  • @RuckingFun (Comment 4) :

    So what is the average gate this year 20 or 30…. i don’t think we want to be taking too much credit for other centres crowd sizes 😯

    So you don’t think other SA teams could get 30+ in London. I think those type off one off matches just attract NZ and Sa and Aussies regardless of who is playing admittedly you wouldn’t want the Lions playing the Highlanders.

    But Bulls v Tahs would still draw a crowd… dare i say bigger than Sharks v Someone

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.05.11 01:18:09 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 6) : ya actually think im overeacting a bit just checked the stats and they pretty normal have ranged from 21 000 – 37 000

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.05.11 01:31:11 by RuckingFun Reply

  • @RuckingFun (Comment 7) :

    Not bad sizes really ! πŸ˜•

    We had a crowd for the Crusaders match here of over 20 which was very exciting. Against the bigger sides there is always that chance we average about 10 and that is in a city of 100 which is about 10% of the population is the pop of Durban 300 ❓

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.05.11 01:35:43 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • gees the chiefs and canes getting less than 10k for some games

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.05.11 01:39:59 by RuckingFun Reply

  • the population of dbn’s pretty hard to determine and u cant really compare apples with apples here bout would statistically be about 3mil

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.05.11 01:42:49 by RuckingFun Reply

  • SupeRugby city populations (well close anyway) πŸ˜•

    Durban 3 500 000
    Capetown 3 500 000
    Pretoria 1 200 000
    Jo Burg 3 800 000
    Blo 600 000
    Sydney 4 500 000
    Brisbane 2 000 000
    Perth 1 600 000
    Melbourne 4 000 000
    Auckland 1 400 000
    Wellington 400 000
    Chrischurch 375 000
    Dunedin 100 000

    Invercargill 50 000

    I wonder what the crowd size will be for Highlanders v Hurricanes this friday night in Invercargill 5,000 😯

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.05.11 02:08:17 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • the shark supporters are predominantly white and they make up 277 000 so also bout 10% if u look at it that way, it makes sense how the aussies can have union, league, and aussie rules teams all in 1 city!

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.05.11 02:39:30 by RuckingFun Reply

  • Great post Sharon. Guys, if you stay in Durban, have the money too go and watch the game, then you really have no excuse. People saying that the whole experience needs to be attractive, probably haven’t been to a live game in a while. Granted, they can put some more effort into pre-game entertainment, but there are always good artist providing live music afterwards etc. What more do you want? Freaken people mud wrestling while aflame?

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.05.11 06:07:03 by KingRiaan Reply

  • I agree with Talent. They missing the 18 – 35 age segment. That’s where the majority of the support is. Sooner or later most of the guys end up moving away from Durban. Its not about supporting your team to the death,because if I guarantee you that majority of the population will say they Sharks supporters in and out. As I said before, ita a culture thing. Going for the rugby has to change to accomodate for that.

    SA 2023 RWC, and I don’t think KIngspark is going to hold out till then. A move to Moses plus some fresh ideas could get us 40000 people per game.

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.05.11 06:41:25 by Mocho Reply

  • Awesome read Shaz :mrgreen:
    Two things that imho influence turnouts is: 1. Current performance 2. Opposition.

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.05.11 07:18:46 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Did you share a beer with Richard at least? πŸ™‚

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.05.11 07:48:00 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 14) : Dude a move to Mabhida stadium would lose as many spectators as it would gain.

    A lot of those spectators in Durban are hospitality suite guests. Mabhida has less than half the number of suites KP has. How many of the gold zone season ticket holders (who have had those tickets passed down generations) will hang around if they now get stuffed about by having to jostle for new seats?

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.05.11 07:52:05 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • I have a little something to say:

    Firstly, it was awesome to meet you on Sat night Shaz, good to see such enthusiasm!

    Secondly, when the Sharks play a 7pm match, they immediately rule out all towns that are not in close proximity, like Pmb and Scottburgh and the like. The game just finishes too late and people don’t want to drive that far at 10pm.

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.05.11 07:52:18 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 18) : very good point

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.05.11 07:54:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 18) :

    … interesting all games kick off in NZ at 7:35 couldn’t get there otherwise after work ! πŸ˜•

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.05.11 07:57:40 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 20) : Might be why you guys get such small crowds?

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.05.11 07:59:36 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 21) : On Saturdays that is.

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.05.11 08:04:58 by Ben Reply
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  • I have been going to Newlands since 1976 as a 13 year old, and have hardly missed a game since ! The crowds at Newlands are amazing,the atmosphere at the Sharks and Saders game far better and ‘ electric ‘ than many a Test match I have attended. I completely agree with the sentiments of this piece, I simply do not understand watching the game on tv when it is happening live just down the road!

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.05.11 08:21:18 by grant10 Reply

  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 3) : I think it’s relative. A 20 000 crowd in a 25 000 capacity stadium has a much better atmosphere than a 30 000 crowd in a 50 000 capacity stadium.

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.05.11 08:23:52 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 17) : I agree. The RWC ( I’m 90% sure its coming to SA) is only in 2023. So KP will probably be home more for a couple more year. If the Sharks Rugby is not attracting the younger generation now, how will it attract them when they older? When one looks at Newlands what strikes me is the amount of univ students at the game, compared to the age segments that come to KP. Those univ students will get married and bring the kids to the games and going to the rugby becomes part of culture.

    When one goes to buy a ticket at the TANK, there are only two types of tickets. Scholars – those in school, and adult. There’s nothing for pensioners, students or price segmentation depending where you sitting. If Sharks Rugby keeps the strategy of only targeting the U18 and over 30’s, the problem will get worse with regards to crowds.

    That’s why in my opinion moving to Moses in say 2016 might be more feasible. They can split the hospitality suites, build more, and increase the price for them. Mark my words, if nothing innovative is introduced in bringing the crowds to the Rugby, we going to be having this convo next year.

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.05.11 08:25:14 by Mocho Reply

  • Great one Sharon just great and agree with you 1000% if i stayed in durbs well i will be there and would of got season tickets long before the games start but what the hell i stay in Brits so its far away and got grans kids to bring up one is 3 and the other is 6 so all the money etc goes to give them a better life

    And then one sore part is that my hubby just won’t take me so i’ll have to wait some years to go there myself with a walking stick but Chaz will go at some stage
    but i think its an honour to just see your team that we support and love to have them play their hearts out before you i don’t think i’ll have any voice left at all after the match πŸ™‚

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.05.11 08:44:40 by chaz Reply

  • Jeez, wish I had the opportunity to go to the Shark Tank.

    Newlands is more picturesque I feel, but there`s nothing like supporting your own team amongst thousands of fellow supporters.
    Actually, that`s the case when the Sharks play here as well, better think of another motivational speech 😯

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.05.11 08:46:41 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 25) :

    You raise a very good point..

    The Sharks marketing should look into having more variety in their ticket prices, like a sliding scale of some sort depending on where you sit and maybe even some form of loyalty package that gives you a discount on your following ticket.

    Im no marketing genius, but surely they should look into this..

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.05.11 08:47:46 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 21) :

    Well not really I think comment 11 illustrates why the crowds are smaller in NZ πŸ˜•

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.05.11 08:53:14 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 11) :

    Those are some interesting numbers..

  • Comment 30, posted at 11.05.11 08:56:47 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @chaz (Comment 26) : You can still go to Loftus and Ellis Park if your willing to risk having to walking home. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 31, posted at 11.05.11 09:02:45 by Danman110 Reply

  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 30) :

    …probably only to bean counters πŸ˜†

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.05.11 09:04:17 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 32) :


    The percentage representation in crowd figures to population in NZ is remarkable!!

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.05.11 09:05:05 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 23) : 😯 No mention of John Smit? πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 34, posted at 11.05.11 09:10:41 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 34) : Have you written to Sharks management about this incident? Obviously the security would do little as he is contracted and paid little, but you should have asked his name as a witness to take this up with management. I agree there is a racist element at rugby, but by letting these incidents slide you just allow it to happen again. I am sure all Sharks fans will back you in cleaning out the scum that go to the rugby.

  • Comment 35, posted at 11.05.11 09:19:00 by waje Reply

  • Poisy that is shocking! I have been to all home games having missed only 2 during this time and always thought the race groups got on well I have always sat around a variety of races and we all got on well. I guess even Durban has its @rseholes, its disappointing. The looking away thing is an english thing I am afraid πŸ™ never forget going out with my dad in a larney suburb in PMB and there was a guy (white middle age) staggering holding onto a wall everyone looked at him no one save my dad did anything to help this bloke who as it turned out was having a heart attack.

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.05.11 09:23:40 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @waje (Comment 35) : Where’s Poisy’s comment?

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.05.11 09:24:26 by Mocho Reply

  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 36) : Okay I`m confused. What happened?

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.05.11 09:27:39 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 37) : Not sure? It was at 34. But the incident was in poor taste and I hope poisy will actually take this up with Sharks management. I also hope that girl will be taken back to a game and get to experience the good side of Kings Park. As I have always said always try something twice, the first time might not have been the best conditions, but if it happens twice then you make sure no-one tries it. I especially use this principle when going to restuarants. Maybe someone at Sharksworld can organise tickets for the girl and let her experience the better side of Sharks rugby.

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.05.11 09:33:52 by waje Reply

  • @Danman110 (Comment 31) : agree with you but me hubby has a think about big cities JHB is one and
    Pretoria i just don’t know the Bulls will hang me for just wearing my Sharks jersey,

    i’ll have to wait until they come to RTB and hope he’ll take me, which i don’t think he’ll do at all πŸ‘Ώ

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.05.11 09:37:00 by chaz Reply

  • @chaz (Comment 41) : HeHeHe,
    Loftus is not a Shark Friendly venue like Newlands!

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.05.11 09:40:16 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • Its not the only incident. I can remember countless occasions going to the rugby and guys being picked on because of their race. Its normally the guys who are not from Durban who insult and abuse the guys. Its weird because the Indian population in durban have a lot of interest in rugby, but due to circumstances like the one mentioned are intimidated to come.

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.05.11 09:41:50 by Mocho Reply

  • @Poisy (Comment 39) : that is really 😯 but if i go i’ll make sure that i have the sharks team to protect me at all times 😳 πŸ˜‰
    and gee i’ll be a gran walking with a stick by then so i’ll just boot them or they’ll feel sorry for me and give me the best seat in ST :mrgreen:

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.05.11 09:42:04 by chaz Reply

  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 37) : you are right most people are totally fine and happy with each other its always a good atmosphere but there’s always idiotys ready to ruin everything

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.05.11 09:42:18 by Poisy Reply
  • Original pierre was just telling Poisy that not to get involved is an english thing the incident one of many I have witnessed since coming to these shores is when a guy having a heart attack in a public place and everyone just looked past him but did not assist him at all until my dad came past and helped him

  • Comment 45, posted at 11.05.11 09:43:29 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 42) : you can say that again i know of someone that was so afraid to go with her Sharks jersey that her husband gave his new BB jersey to put on but i’m not a scared person and there is no ways in hell i’ll give up my Sharks jersey not even for on Bulls game πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 46, posted at 11.05.11 09:44:55 by chaz Reply

  • @grant10 (Comment 23) : As much as there was the “other” supporters at Newlands on Saturday the roar that the Stormers received when they ran out was louder than any reception they received in a long time.

    Stormers will always get over 35k for Super rugby game

  • Comment 47, posted at 11.05.11 09:45:40 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
  • @Poisy (Comment 45) : true but i get along with all :mrgreen:
    i mean we are all one family in the name of the game arn’t we

  • Comment 48, posted at 11.05.11 09:46:11 by chaz Reply

  • @Mocho (Comment 44) : my girlfriend is indian and her whole family absolutely love!!! Rugby but again the parents read something like that and its back to square one but her brother goes anyway as he and I have friends of all races and generally if that’s the case than nothing ever happens

  • Comment 49, posted at 11.05.11 09:47:23 by Poisy Reply
  • @Poisy (Comment 39) : Sorry to hear that Poisy. You definitely seem to “attract” the bad side of Kings Park. Maybe we can use you to root out the bad element in Kings Park. Jokes aside though, it is disappointing the incidents you’ve witnessed. I cannot answer for Sharks management or promise an enjoyable time at Kings Park, but the more the incidents are reported publicly the sooner management will get out their Ivory tower and sort it out. By letting it slide, no-one hears of it, so when an incident is reported it seems a rare occurence and it gets swept under the rug. The more these incidents are bought to the fore the higher priority it becomes to clean it up. I cannot offer you any better solution.

  • Comment 50, posted at 11.05.11 09:48:18 by waje Reply

  • @chaz (Comment 47) : I never had such problems at Newlands or Ellis Park. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 51, posted at 11.05.11 09:53:20 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 49) :
    @waje (Comment 50) :
    @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 45) :

    Hi guys

    You all know the rules..

    Lets try keep away from the racial comments and keep it clean.

  • Comment 52, posted at 11.05.11 09:57:50 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Hi Shaz!! Good to hear you had a great time!! Thanks for the wishes BTW – have just been a little occupied lately – but am back now!

  • Comment 53, posted at 11.05.11 09:59:12 by Ice Reply
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  • @chaz (Comment 41) : I am inclined to share your husband’s sentiments regarding small towns I also live in Brits and I’ve lived here all my life. I have watched quite a few Sharks games at Loftus in my Sharks kit and never had any problems but that might be because the Sharks won all the game watched at Loftus.

  • Comment 54, posted at 11.05.11 09:59:38 by Danman110 Reply

  • Poisy I do however believe what you say as I have been appalled at how some parents let their children disappear after the game so they can socialise. And most the time these kids are getting drunk and getting up to all types of nonsense not morally acceptable. Now if this is what these parents allow for their own offspring, I can imagine what level of morality they hold for other people.

  • Comment 55, posted at 11.05.11 10:01:56 by waje Reply

  • @Danman110 (Comment 54) : Now whats your problem – get your ass over to Loftus everytime we play from now on – and THAT’s an ORDER! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 56, posted at 11.05.11 10:04:25 by Ice Reply
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  • Poisy.

    I invite you and a few youngsters who you’d like to bring along to join me and my family for any game in Dbn between 27 July and 25 Aug. (except the test match as I won’t be able to get tickets for that πŸ™‚ )

    And hopefully I can show you and the youngsters a good time at KP without any hassle.

    My email address is under the about us link at the top of the page.

  • Comment 57, posted at 11.05.11 10:09:25 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 57) : Was hoping you’d cme to the resque here… πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 58, posted at 11.05.11 10:13:36 by Ice Reply
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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 57) : Hats off to you KSA. That is a truly kind gesture. Hopefully Poisy will let that girl experience a true Sharks experience.

  • Comment 59, posted at 11.05.11 10:14:54 by waje Reply

  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 57) :

    *standing ovation for the prince on his white horse*

  • Comment 60, posted at 11.05.11 10:25:14 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 52) : I’m with Richard here… we’ve had to remove comments from this thread already for breaching the site rules and I’d prefer to not have to do any more of that.


  • Comment 61, posted at 11.05.11 10:26:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 56) : I am sorted for the 18 June match at Loftus 😎 but I am still sorting out the logistical issues for the 11 June match at Ellis park.
    But I will be there come hell or high water.

  • Comment 62, posted at 11.05.11 10:26:41 by Danman110 Reply

  • @Danman110 (Comment 62) : My Hero!! So I can make my Superbru bets with safety then! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 63, posted at 11.05.11 10:33:52 by Ice Reply
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  • @waje (Comment 55) : Don`t even get me started on kiddies!! 😈

  • Comment 64, posted at 11.05.11 10:39:19 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 63) : Sharks by 35 😎

  • Comment 65, posted at 11.05.11 10:40:54 by Danman110 Reply

  • Thanks guys for the interesting comments here regarding crowd stats. Very useful to me! And thanks KSA for being such a star. And cheers to you Mr Ferguson for being such a cheerful Sith Lord! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 66, posted at 11.05.11 18:22:43 by SharonvanWyk Reply

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