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Bulls name strong lineup


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Bulls, Original Content, Super Rugby on 18 May 2011 at 13:33
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The Vodacom Bulls have named their side to take on the SHarks at Kings Park this weekend. Showing four changes to the unit that annihilated the Melbourne Rebels last week, the most significant change to the team is the return of Victor Matfield to the starting lineup.

The Bok lock was rested last week, with Danie Rossouw starting in the number 5 jersey. Matfield swaps places with the Bok utility forward this week (Rossouw is on the bench) and regains the captain’s armband from Fourie du Preez in the process. The other change to the starting pack sees Chilliboy Ralepelle take over from Gary Botha at hooker.

Amongst the backs, Francois Hougaard takes over from Gerhard van den Heever at wing, while Jaco Pretorius is fit again and slots in at outside centre in place of Stephan Dippenaar. The resulting configuration sees every position in the backline occupied by a capped Springbok, with only two of the starting forwards yet to play for South Africa in a test. Wener Kruger has played for South Africa in a non-test match, while fellow prop Dean Greyling is yet to pull on the green and gold at senior level.

Three further Boks on the bench bring the total in the match 22 to an impressive 16.

Bulls: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Bjorn Basson, 13 Jaco Pretorius, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Francois Hougaard, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Dewald Potgieter, 6 Deon Stegmann, 5 Victor Matfield (captain), 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 1 Dean Greyling.
Replacements: 16 Gary Botha, 17 Rossouw de Klerk, 18 Flip van der Merwe, 19 Danie Rossouw, 20 Derick Kuün, 21 Francois Brummer, 22 Gerhard van den Heever.


49 Comments

  • Jaco Pretorius, most overrated centre… Dippenaar’s been good for them and now isn’t even on the bench?

  • Comment 1, posted at 18.05.11 13:38:23 by molly Reply
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  • Was just thinking the same thing molly. Dippenaar looks a good prospect and Jaco hasn’t done anything of note in years!!

  • Comment 2, posted at 18.05.11 14:38:41 by wpw Reply
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  • Since the Sharks are currently above the Bulls on the log, I am sure the Bulls have selected what they consider their strongest lineup. Interesting to note no Dippenaar, Chili in front of Gary Botha, and Francois Hougaard over Van den Heever at wing. Hougaard’s versatility does allow them to carry 5 forwards on the bench though, making space for Kuun 😆 😈 I thought Danie Roussow was superb last week in the 5 jersey, I know he is not the most liked guy around, but he is an amazingly versatile forward, being able to produce international level performances at all loose forward positions and both locks. I honestly think it would be a mistake to overlook him for this RWC.

  • Comment 3, posted at 18.05.11 14:57:36 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • however you look at it good team on paper but they’ve been out of sorts this year.

    one thing though when we beat them in semis last year they were without their fairy. 🙄

  • Comment 4, posted at 18.05.11 15:09:16 by rekinek Reply
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  • Jaco Pretorius hasn’t been the same since he left the Lions. Maybe it was just a case of him shining in a other words flat team.

  • Comment 5, posted at 18.05.11 16:20:33 by Ben Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 3) : Danie Rossouw is immensely strong. Really intimidates the opposition players physically, would pick him in place of Dewald Potgieter any day.

  • Comment 6, posted at 18.05.11 16:22:42 by Ben Reply
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  • Front Rows: Adv Sharks
    2nd row: Adv Bulls
    Loosies: Even
    Halfbacks: Even
    Midfield: Even
    Back 3: Even

    Scrums: Adv Sharks
    Lineouts: Adv Bulls

    Homeground: Adv Sharks

    Tight, tight, tight… Flip a coin with a slight weighting on Sharks with the absence of an SA ref…

    Skidmarks time.

  • Comment 7, posted at 18.05.11 16:29:40 by Heavens Game Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 3) : Chilli and Botha have a rotation agreement with the bulls management and it is Chilli’s turn.

    No I am not joking.

  • Comment 8, posted at 18.05.11 16:53:03 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 8) : One of those agreements that Adi doesn’t have with the Sharks management.

  • Comment 9, posted at 18.05.11 18:23:57 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 9) : One of those agreements that Chilli and Botha are the only ones to have?

    Agreements like that are crap!!!!!! It gives a player assurances of whether he will play or not.

    Just 2 days ago Chilli was talking about a back strain that may stop him from playing. This is not only STUPID player management but it is also risking the team performance, but this is the Bulls what did we expect.

  • Comment 10, posted at 18.05.11 18:35:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : Yip I’m with you sounds like it should be a joke. Why do you have to give your all on the field if you’re assured a starting place every other game.

  • Comment 11, posted at 18.05.11 18:44:04 by Ben Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : Agree with you KSA

    A player should play his way into a team, not demand it via contracts

  • Comment 12, posted at 18.05.11 18:47:15 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 9) : a team player?

  • Comment 13, posted at 18.05.11 18:49:44 by rekinek Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : @sharks_lover (Comment 12) : Amen!

  • Comment 14, posted at 18.05.11 18:50:19 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 13) : Huh?

  • Comment 15, posted at 18.05.11 18:52:36 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 15) : i mean that Adi is a team player and not an individual thinking about his own opportunities 🙄 🙄

  • Comment 16, posted at 18.05.11 18:59:43 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 15) : long day ❓ 😉

  • Comment 17, posted at 18.05.11 19:00:06 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 16) : Hehe, don’t take my comment to serious. Just expressing my frustration with Adi’s lack of game time with a bit of Sarcasm. 😉

  • Comment 18, posted at 18.05.11 19:05:14 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 18) : i know … i always try to mean 😈
    imo adi was shaky last year but i really (let me underline it REALLY) bosman did not do anything deserving starting berth.

    the only time I was excited about him was when he slotted a penalty or conversion against the lions BECAUSE jlp was not able to get any kick through – c’mon

  • Comment 19, posted at 18.05.11 19:17:56 by rekinek Reply
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  • i guess my problem is that now we have bosman who looked the part in struggling cheetahs outfit taking a place of our very own star player 😐

  • Comment 20, posted at 18.05.11 19:19:06 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 20) : Bosman took Andries Strauss’ place. Stef is the one playing in Adi’s preferred position.

  • Comment 21, posted at 18.05.11 19:28:49 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 21) : I’m beginning to think that Oupa has some mysterious hold over people.

    I have yet to hear anyone explain to me what it is that he does well that a OUTSIDE CENTRE should do, but I DO hear people constantly imply that he should continue to be picked at 13.

    Kinda given up on this one.

  • Comment 22, posted at 18.05.11 19:33:07 by Big Fish Reply
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  • WTH does every thread end up about Stefan Terblanche? 😛

  • Comment 23, posted at 18.05.11 19:35:56 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 21) : @Big Fish (Comment 22) :
    oupa is a very very good fullback! but firstly because of Lambie and now Ludick he was forced to find another position in the first XV. the coaching staff wants him to start and 13 is default. full stop. that’s my take on this.

  • Comment 24, posted at 18.05.11 19:36:10 by rekinek Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 23) : we love him 😛

  • Comment 25, posted at 18.05.11 19:36:31 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 22) : Quickly starting to follow in your footsteps there BF.

  • Comment 26, posted at 18.05.11 19:37:12 by Ben Reply
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  • seriously though – i think oupa found himself out of position and 13 was there for the taking. 😐

  • Comment 27, posted at 18.05.11 19:37:22 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 24) : So now Adi who actually still realistically stand a chance to go to the WC, has to play in a unprefered or worse play of the bench just so that Oupa can get a starting spot each week?

  • Comment 28, posted at 18.05.11 19:40:53 by Ben Reply
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  • @Heavens Game (Comment 7) :

    Halfbacks even?

    A bit of a stretch to put Mcleod and Lambie even with duPreez and Steyn. And the Bulls have Hougaard as backup also.

    I;d rather:

    Front Rows: ++Sharks
    2nd row: +++Bulls
    Loosies: ++Sharks
    Halfbacks: ++Bulls
    Midfield: Even
    Back 3: Even

    Scrums: Adv Sharks
    Lineouts: Adv Bulls
    Defence: Adv Bulls

    Homeground: Adv Sharks

  • Comment 29, posted at 18.05.11 19:41:44 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 29) : sadly agreed. lambie is a great talent and with time will surely overshadow steyn imo but imo (again) people overpraise charl sometimes. it is his first super rugby, he was no 3 behind ruan and rory and unfortunately there were reasons for it.

  • Comment 30, posted at 18.05.11 19:50:11 by rekinek Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) :

    If there really is such an agreement it would not be so different from the rumoured deal the du Plessis brothers had with Sharks, would it?

  • Comment 31, posted at 18.05.11 19:50:43 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 31) : The agreement was mentioned by Chilli in an article a day ot two ago I’ll see if i can find it now.

  • Comment 32, posted at 18.05.11 19:59:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 31) : The coach is not someone who easily changes his team. It is Chiliboy Ralepelle’s turn to start at hooker again according to the rotation agreement with Gary Botha, but he’s struggling with a back injury.

    “It’s my lower back. I’m in discomfort, but I hope to recover in time,” said Ralepelle.

    It wasn’t Chili who said it it was JJ Harmse, but all you have to do is go and look at the team sheets.

  • Comment 33, posted at 18.05.11 20:10:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Du Plessis attorney Gerrie Swart also shed some light on the agreement that has been reached between the Sharks, Du Plessis and returning Springbok captain John Smit.

    “We anticipated earlier in the year that John Smit might return to the Sharks from French club Clermont. We reached a gentlemen’s agreement with the Sharks that if this was the case, then all parties concerned should sit around the table and discuss how both players would be managed.

    “This is what we have done and we have been assured that both players will be carefully managed and given sufficient game time to prove that they are the top two hookers in the country. They are both really good mates and respect each other immensely.”

    Agreeing to manage players is not really the same as agreeing to rotate week on week.

  • Comment 34, posted at 18.05.11 20:15:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 34) : though it looks like chilli – garry thing is just a practical implementation of du plessis – smit agreement …

  • Comment 35, posted at 18.05.11 20:26:35 by rekinek Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 34) :

    Semantics.

    While both players are healthy and their performances are about equal, a week on week rotation seems to be the most sensible and fair solution to me.

    “Manage” is too vague. Too likely to cause unhappiness.
    There were articles on this very site claiming that the “management” of Smit and du Plessis was the reason the Sharks failed that year.

  • Comment 36, posted at 18.05.11 20:42:54 by fyndraai Reply
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  • How did the Sharks “manage” Barrit and Pienaar and Steyn? What about their unethical management of Mapoe?

    Snide remarks by Sharks supporters aimed at the Bulls on this subject are a little foolish.

  • Comment 37, posted at 18.05.11 20:55:18 by fyndraai Reply
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  • I agree with fyndraai. Last week a comment was made about an alleged scuffle between Gary Botha and Pierre Spies about Gary’s alleged infidelity outside a restaurant. Where or who is the source of this alleged fracas?

  • Comment 38, posted at 18.05.11 21:24:22 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 38) : It happened in January and if the link was in my history on my PC I would have posted it for you.

    Agreeing with players that you would give them enough playing time is a little different from agreeing to a 1 week on 1 week off rotation.

  • Comment 39, posted at 19.05.11 05:55:56 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • http://www.keo.co.za/2011/05/19/sharks-the-new-beautiful-letdowns/#
    I dislike Keo!

  • Comment 40, posted at 19.05.11 06:15:46 by GreatSharksays Reply

     
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 39) : i am joining this post a bit late, but i don’t really think we are in a position to say one team’s policy is better than anothers based purely on what was said in the press.

    from the snippets you posted, all i am willing to admit is that the sharks probably worded their rotation policy better than the bulls.

    anyway, on the dippenaar issue. he certainly is a much bigger threat with ball in hand, compared to jaco p. but jaco p is an excellent defender, while dippies still need to work on this area of his game. while it is a bit harsh to have him left out of the 22, it is all about the balance of the bench. GvdH has to be in the 22, as he is cover for 11, 14 and 15.

    same thing happened with akona who played beautifully against the chiefs, but haven’t been able to get into the 22 since.

  • Comment 41, posted at 19.05.11 07:02:13 by bloubulblog Reply

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  • @ KSA Shark: Ever heard of google? 😀

  • Comment 42, posted at 19.05.11 07:20:31 by wpw Reply
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  • @bloubulblog (Comment 41) : Hey BBB long time.

    From the extracts that I posted yes, but couple that with the selection pattern and it is pretty clear.

    If you look at the actual selections I believe you will see a definite pattern of on off for Chili and Botha.

    I don’t believe any such pattern existed at the Sharks.

  • Comment 43, posted at 19.05.11 07:35:21 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 43) : hasn’t smit been injured a fair bit this year?

    i wouldn’t stick with the bulls kind of schedule with gary and chili, but in these days i can imagine players asking for that kind of rotation.

    we have seen that players become more willing to switch provinces to ensure game time. just take JLP for instance. he was unhappy at the bulls, and went to the cheetahs where he got game time. came back to the bulls and didn’t get enough game time, and then signed with the sharks, before Lambie turned into the prodigal son (at 10 anyway…).

    maku left the bulls for game time, so did a few others. hoffman moved to the sharks. just a few examples.

    not that i am defending this kind of selection policy, its just that i can understand it. and it is most certainly not fair, on the team or the players really, but that is the way the game is going.

  • Comment 44, posted at 19.05.11 07:42:50 by bloubulblog Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 42) : Ever heard of being stuck using a phone for SW access? 😛

  • Comment 45, posted at 19.05.11 07:55:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • having Jaco Pretorius back at centre helps us and any other team that faces The Bulls when he’s in… Has been nothing but average since swapping red and white for blue… Not an international classifed player IMO… In fact, he’s just plain kak…

    Going to be a difficult game for us, we need to boss the setpiece and dominate their loosies…

    Hope we choose the right balance for this week… HOPE!!!

  • Comment 46, posted at 19.05.11 08:00:30 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @bloubulblog (Comment 44) : I have no problem with a good rotation policy either. The issue that I have is the almost cast in stone, one week on one week off structure that they have adopted. It gives the player that assurance that next week he can be a little lacksidazical (sp) coz he ain’t going to play anyway.

    Chili is better than the current form Botha is in and should therefore get more gametime.

    Botha lost a LOT of form while overseas and it shows clearly at Superrugby level, whether that is because he KNOWS he will play anyway is not something I have an answer to.

  • Comment 47, posted at 19.05.11 08:03:37 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 39) : But KSA you’re missing the point. I can also post articled that “prove” Smit and Bismark had an training field bust-up, which Rob was at pains to say wasn’t true (he wrote a full article attacking the author). Oh, here it is – http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2011/04/20/talking-smack-about-smit/ it wasn’t even that hard to find in google. But that doesn’t make the story true.

  • Comment 48, posted at 19.05.11 08:54:36 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 48) : 😆 :mrgreen:

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