Richard Ferguson

A Sharks autopsy


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Bulls, Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 23 May 2011 at 09:26
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Some of you might have noticed the stunned silence around Sharksworld as we all try and figure out how exactly the Sharks managed to get such a hiding from the Bulls this weekend. I was planning on writing something on the night, delayed to Sunday to try not write when angry, but only managed to put words to feelings this morning when stuck behind my desk, with rage not an option.

Firstly, congratulations to the Bulls and all their supporters for a thoroughly deserved victory at the Shark Tank on Saturday evening, it was rather painful to watch, but a Bulls team at full flight is a team worth watching, just a shame it was my own team that was β€œraptured”!

To the Sharks fans, it is not the end of the world as many expected it to be, but it sure feels that way doesn’t it? That said, even though we love our team and will support them through thick and thin, we all have to agree that the better team on the night won, and the Sharks really looked like a team without a plan to start off with, and with no idea how to deal with a Bulls team that is starting to take great strides in getting to the play-offs.

One can understand that the Sharks might have been shaky for the first twenty or so minutes, coming off a bye weekend and all, but they had more than enough opportunity to hit back in the second half, when the Bulls seemed to take a back seat in play. It could have been a great come back win against an old enemy, but it wasn’t.

The Sharks’ handling let them down, not once, not twice, but somewhere around double digits. In all honesty, it was high school errors that let the team down. The Sharks need to get back on the training field and learn how to catch a ball, it is doing the basics well that win you matches.

I am not going to single out any one player, as I feel the entire team was undercooked and not one single player had a game that he can honestly say was a good one. How much the late change to the backline disrupted the team, we will never know, especially as the change that was made was something that every single person was calling for.

In closing, I honestly think the Sharks can win a few more games this weekend, but the chance of reaching the playoffs now is not only in their own hands, they will have to claim a few favours along the way. First and foremost, we need to sort out the basics and our players need to learn to adjust to how the opposition is playing. Sounds easy hey?


254 Comments

  • Damn but Saturday’s game was painful to watch. The way our guys played like a second string school boy team. But I have faith that the fighting spirit in Plum and the boys will repay our faith in them. They need our support now more than ever. I was disgusted on Saturday during halftime in the johns to hear a guy with a new Sharks jersey on complaining how crap the Sharks are and how he wasted a lot of money to come to the game. In my view, you are either a supporter through thick and thin, if you have problems with that, go support lawn ball or something.

  • Comment 1, posted at 23.05.11 09:34:07 by KingRiaan Reply
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  • yet another poor rugby show by the sharks .the centers are poor and Charl McLeod form is going backwards.the last couple of games the teams have found huge holes in the defense and the miss tackles are mounting. 😈

  • Comment 2, posted at 23.05.11 09:46:12 by pete69 Reply
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  • Nice article Richard. couldn;t agree with you more about doing the basics right. Our lineouts has been a problem all season. So has our tackling and handling. These are all very basic things for a rugby team and should be sorted. The bulls did not beat us by playing flashy rugby but by getting the basics right and capatalizing on our own mistakes. Let hope we can get it sorted as a team and win another couple of games. Go Sharks!!!

  • Comment 3, posted at 23.05.11 09:50:33 by Viking Reply
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  • I have to admit that the performance of The Sharks had me in a dark mood on Saturday evening, but on reflection it was obviously the pits for the players. Just nothing seemed to go right and the number of knock-ons at crucial times added to the frustration.
    But it is now done. Over. Learn from it and prepare for the next game. The Bulls have had their fair share of poor performances this season and have got over it. In fact many teams in the Super 15 have had nightmare games. We are still in the hunt and have to face up to the challenges ahead. They are huge but not insurmountable. Let’s get on with it.

  • Comment 4, posted at 23.05.11 10:01:44 by Donald Reply

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  • The Sharks made 28 handling errors. Not really what you expect from a Super Rugby squad and definitely not what you expect this far into the season.

  • Comment 5, posted at 23.05.11 10:02:37 by waje Reply

     
  • 19 missed tackles, Pat Lambie, Charl Macloed and Adi Jacobs missing 4 each. To let 12 players through the same gap is not acceptable.

  • Comment 6, posted at 23.05.11 10:05:44 by waje Reply

     
  • why was the Tank not full? this was a match against the DEFENDING champions and a crucial one in the playoff race!

  • Comment 7, posted at 23.05.11 10:07:49 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 7) :

    I wish I knew..

    I think the late games are less supprted, and it was fuller than usual, but you would expect a full stadium..

  • Comment 8, posted at 23.05.11 10:10:06 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @waje (Comment 6) : the stats on lambie and charl can only mean that channel was targeted due to the lack of an openside flanker. Even Lambo will not be able to sustain a channel full of big Bulls fwds

  • Comment 9, posted at 23.05.11 10:21:45 by catfish Reply
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  • The Sharks were absolutely pants on Saturday and the Bulls must be kicking themselves for failing to get 4 [email protected]waje (Comment 6) : The first two tries for the Bulls were down to simple missed tackles. Not even the Rebels would have missed that many tackles off first phase play. Utterly pathetic.

    Beast, Alberts and Adi had uncharacteristically poor games. The irony being that if Bosman had started we’d probably have kept out one or two tries.

    Lambie was okay in most areas, but also poor defence from the young lad.

  • Comment 10, posted at 23.05.11 10:22:20 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @catfish (Comment 9) : Deysel looking a bit undercooked, eh?

  • Comment 11, posted at 23.05.11 10:23:33 by CapeShark Reply
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  • Charl Macloed should remember why he is in the team and that is for fast quick ball.He became a glory boy.

  • Comment 12, posted at 23.05.11 10:24:46 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @waje (Comment 5) : against only 16 from the Bulls…Alberts on 6 and McCleod on 5 alone!

    Most tackles made was Botes on 10…Beast gave away most penalties..less than Bakkies! who only gave 2 penalties away..

    Looking at the stats – I will echo my post of yesterday and many others – it;s BASICS…these guys are suppose to know this..

  • Comment 13, posted at 23.05.11 10:24:55 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 13) :

    I will be doing an in depth look at not only individual but team stats later today or tomorrow morning.

    Will make for some interesting reading..

  • Comment 14, posted at 23.05.11 10:27:24 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Honey Badger (Comment 12) : I’ve been saying that since February! Once again he took a quick tap option when we desperately needed a 3 point confidence booster. Just plain dof.

  • Comment 15, posted at 23.05.11 10:27:47 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 15) :

    Three points that could have secured a bonus point..

  • Comment 16, posted at 23.05.11 10:29:40 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Honey Badger (Comment 12) : He does the same thing over and over and expects a different result. Perhaps the coach needs to chat to him?

  • Comment 17, posted at 23.05.11 10:30:30 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 17) :

    Perhaps Hoffmann needs to play for more than his allocated 10 minutes at the end of the game..

  • Comment 18, posted at 23.05.11 10:33:20 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • On a different point – can someone explain the law to me regarding the last PK, where Fourie was penalised for tackling Mvovo – when he jumped to cath a passed ball…its not as it was like he was in the air catching a ball from a kick…it will be much appreciated…thank you kind gentlemen…

  • Comment 19, posted at 23.05.11 10:35:28 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 7) : the most support exept for semi final 2007 for a game that I’ve been there

  • Comment 20, posted at 23.05.11 10:38:10 by franshark Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 19) :

    Call was a dangerous tackle, difficult one, but still dangerous.

  • Comment 21, posted at 23.05.11 10:45:09 by MornΓ© Reply
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  • There is only one thing I would love to know from Plum. How can our best wing be sitting on the bench each week?

  • Comment 22, posted at 23.05.11 10:46:00 by Uli Reply
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  • Same story. Different week. πŸ™„

  • Comment 23, posted at 23.05.11 10:52:27 by Ben Reply
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  • @MornΓ© (Comment 21) : Was my thought, but someone actually mad a comment that basically if you are going for the tryline, and you have a tackler infront of you – just jump high in the air and the guy is not allowed to tackle you! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 24, posted at 23.05.11 10:53:25 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 13)
    : maybe too much ‘pi*l’ates and no balls

  • Comment 25, posted at 23.05.11 10:58:11 by catfish Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 20) : you did say you missed the 2009 Currie Cup semi hey?

  • Comment 26, posted at 23.05.11 11:01:29 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 24) : To be honest I dont think there was any maliciousness in it however Mark Lawrence saw it differently, telling Bryce Lawrence that FduP launched himself at Mvovs while in the air – this was repeated a few times. Mark Lawrence clearly saw it differently to Bryce Lawrence who awarded the penalty without making much fuss of the incident.

  • Comment 27, posted at 23.05.11 11:02:08 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 27) : Did you not hear Bryces remark to Fourie? He said something to the effect that he is actually wondering if a plain tackle was Fourie’s intent…

  • Comment 28, posted at 23.05.11 11:05:30 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 28) : a plain tackle WAS indeed fourie’s intention, what is he supposed to do when Mvovo prances around and falls over?

    this is why Mark Lawrence is not going to RWC, he can’t be impartial in a game, he always has to take sides. there was NO penalty there.

  • Comment 29, posted at 23.05.11 11:16:17 by Megatron Reply

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  • Okay people – here is one thing that I was really concerned about.

    Yesterday there was a big discussion on how k*k our lineouts were and the locks being rubbish and the hooker being even worse..blah, blah, blah…I said to my husband that perhaps I watched another game or are blind, but the Lineouts was not that major issue to me and I dont think we did bad at all considering who we played against….seems I was not too far wrong.

    Stats on the lineouts:

    Sharsk had 18 only lost 3 (83.35% won)
    Bulls had 11 and lost 1 (90.9% won)

  • Comment 30, posted at 23.05.11 11:16:31 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 29) : hey dont kak me out – I was just asking a question and then telling Sammy what Bryce said to Fourie…I also did not see it as a penalty (dangerous perhaps)…

  • Comment 31, posted at 23.05.11 11:18:11 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 29) : And come on…ML was quick to show the ref on the Sharsk infringements – you are just being a toss now.

  • Comment 32, posted at 23.05.11 11:19:29 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 30) : Its more a case of where we lose our lineouts. One of them cost us 7 points.

  • Comment 33, posted at 23.05.11 11:19:31 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 33) : Just went according to the comments on here Benna – where some people made it out like we lost ALL our lineouts..

  • Comment 34, posted at 23.05.11 11:20:29 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 34) : Luckily I weren’t one of them! πŸ˜‰ But honestly our lineouts are a problem and I hope they are working on it.

  • Comment 35, posted at 23.05.11 11:22:59 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 31) : not “kakking you out” just expressing how i saw it πŸ˜€

  • Comment 36, posted at 23.05.11 11:27:12 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 32) : no, you’re being a “toss”, Lawrence was hoping the Sharks will get a losers bonus point, but he failed πŸ˜›

  • Comment 37, posted at 23.05.11 11:28:53 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 36) : πŸ˜› Be less aggressive in the way you see things today, please…I am hurting.. 😐

  • Comment 38, posted at 23.05.11 11:28:56 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 37) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 39, posted at 23.05.11 11:30:25 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 37) : Then he should have let our earlier mistakes slip and not point them out to the Ref…in that case we even might have WON the game – let alone get a losing BP! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 40, posted at 23.05.11 11:31:53 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 37) : Why don’t you take off those Anti-Sharks tinted glasses of yours for just a bit?

  • Comment 41, posted at 23.05.11 11:34:09 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 40) : i think he was looking on in horror as your players knocked-on senselessly!

  • Comment 42, posted at 23.05.11 11:36:23 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 42) : he was not the only one…

  • Comment 43, posted at 23.05.11 11:37:18 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 41) : πŸ˜€ nope, not wearing them today, they got lost in the revelry of saturday night

  • Comment 44, posted at 23.05.11 11:38:05 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 30) : there definetly was a gr8 improvement. Really think Harvies took control of the early mess and sorted things out.

  • Comment 45, posted at 23.05.11 11:41:38 by catfish Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 35) :
    For some inexplicable reason, when the Sharks are in their own 22, they love throwing the ball to the back of the lineout, often right of the jumpers, this becomes 50/50 ball which we often lose and if we do recover it, its under pressure.

  • Comment 46, posted at 23.05.11 11:43:22 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 26) : yes I was not there, the games where the attendance is good its difficult for us staying far to get proper tickets

  • Comment 47, posted at 23.05.11 11:51:22 by franshark Reply
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  • Far to many knock on,s were a big problem which eventually makes for negitivity!!

  • Comment 48, posted at 23.05.11 11:55:32 by ruggabugga Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 7) : and moses mabida next door had 55000 for a game of soccer..

  • Comment 49, posted at 23.05.11 11:59:34 by ruggabugga Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 46) : I’ve noticed. Would like to know why. Its not like we are going to be doing huge backline moves from there.

  • Comment 50, posted at 23.05.11 12:04:49 by Ben Reply
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  • lets just all hope this satutday is not our last game at home for 2011!!!

  • Comment 51, posted at 23.05.11 12:07:04 by ruggabugga Reply

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  • @ruggabugga (Comment 51) : I’m sure we’ll have a few Currie Cup games at home in 2011. πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 52, posted at 23.05.11 12:11:10 by Ben Reply
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  • Even my wife tells me to learn a new song, but for me one of the problems is the lack of an attacking nr15. So much more so when you lack that ability at 12 and 13 – which everyone sort of write about. Who is challenging Ludik? When last (if ever) did he made a contribution to a try. He does not even kick to the post, so what is his contribution? The sharks simply do not score enough tries, although 2011 seems a bit better. The stats of their ranking in this competition is not good, in fact to me it explains why they struggle to get a sniff of the silverware.
    For the S12 it was:
    1996 2nd
    1997 4th
    1998 2nd
    1999 7th
    2000 10th
    2001 2nd
    2002 9th
    2003 11th
    2004 10th
    2005 8th
    Average 6th for this competion. For the S14 it was:
    2006 2nd
    2007 4th
    2008 9th
    2009 10th
    2010 14th
    Average 8th for this competition. And here lies the problem, because the core of the current team played the last 3 years. Their try scoring went only one way. PLEASE GET YOUR FULLBACK IN THE LINE

  • Comment 53, posted at 23.05.11 12:11:15 by snoestaxi Reply

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  • @snoestaxi (Comment 53) :
    It’s not Ludick’s fault…..he runs very well from the back. Rather blame our so-called backline coaches!

  • Comment 54, posted at 23.05.11 12:16:23 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 30) : if this stats is correct then it must be like ben said about where we lost them, but at one stage the bull supporter infront of me said they will keep kicking they ball out because they getting it back more than half the time. I’ll count them when I watch the game myself on pvr

  • Comment 55, posted at 23.05.11 12:16:28 by franshark Reply
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  • @ruggabugga (Comment 49) : the football was LOOOONG finished by 19:00 o’clock charlie…

  • Comment 56, posted at 23.05.11 12:16:59 by Megatron Reply

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  • @snoestaxi (Comment 53) : Snoesie… you’re starting to strike me as a bit of a “single issue poster”…. πŸ™‚

    Not that there’s anything necessarily wrong with what you’re saying, but if you only ever mention the same point, it starts to look as if you have an agenda.

    Kind of like a certain Stormers fan who only ever comes on here to post negative stuff about John Smit. Makes you wonder if it’s personal.

  • Comment 57, posted at 23.05.11 12:18:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 52) : πŸ™‚

  • Comment 58, posted at 23.05.11 12:18:32 by franshark Reply
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  • @snoestaxi (Comment 53) :

    I don’t think you have a basis to attack Ludik on his contributions so far this season..

    Would you rather see Stef at the back?

    If not, what do you suggest we do, please don’t tell me you are going to suggest Frans Steyn?!

    Ludik has been one of the better player in the team so far this season..

  • Comment 59, posted at 23.05.11 12:21:56 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 59) : I agree, ludik not guilty

  • Comment 60, posted at 23.05.11 12:23:30 by franshark Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 54) : a little bit of truth in your comment, saffa back 3s don’t play in unison, same thing with Aplon who is more elusive and threatening than ludik. he makes a lot of breaks but usually ends up on the ground trying to hold on to the ball because of the lack of support runners.

  • Comment 61, posted at 23.05.11 12:28:59 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 61) :
    True the NZ teams tend to support the runners from the back a lot better than the Saffa teams.

  • Comment 62, posted at 23.05.11 12:31:19 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 61) : @Pokkel (Comment 62) : Ludik has made many a line break just to find that there is no support runners with him. He gets tackled and gets isolated.

  • Comment 63, posted at 23.05.11 12:35:57 by Ben Reply
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  • Hi guys, I’m new here…its good to be on a board with a majority of Sharks supporters. Two questions, when does Joubert arrive and is Vulindlu injured?

  • Comment 64, posted at 23.05.11 12:39:45 by Stu Reply

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  • @Stu (Comment 64) : Welcome to the site. Not sure if Vulindlu is injured be has sort of fell out off favour in the Sharks senior team. Marius Joubert is coming as soon as Clermont wins or gets knocked out of their French league. Not sure if the semi finals were this weekend.

  • Comment 65, posted at 23.05.11 12:43:01 by Ben Reply
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  • @Stu (Comment 64) : Not sure re Joubert, but I believe Zuks is out of favour.

  • Comment 66, posted at 23.05.11 12:43:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Stu (Comment 64) :

    Welcome to the site!!

    Joubert’s team have made it into the final as far as I know, and he will only arrive in time for the last game. But I stand to be corrected.

  • Comment 67, posted at 23.05.11 12:43:41 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 66) : I wonder why?

  • Comment 68, posted at 23.05.11 12:48:15 by Ben Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 15) : Let me take a quick tap and run straight into bakkies and olivier,that stuff seldom work in school rugby and he tries it 3 times per game.

  • Comment 69, posted at 23.05.11 12:50:03 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • Thanks for the welcomes. I’m thinking in terms of this years CC….and the problem we’re having in the midfield. Surely we need to identify and blood new guys tp prepare them for next year’s S15.

  • Comment 70, posted at 23.05.11 12:51:35 by Stu Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 66) : Why is zuks out of favour,He has not gotten a chance to do anything @ 13.

    Zuks,Mvovo if they do not want to play you………other places will.

  • Comment 71, posted at 23.05.11 12:52:06 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @Stu (Comment 64) : oh – and welcome to the site!

  • Comment 72, posted at 23.05.11 12:56:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • i see al lot of you are pinning your hopes on marius joubert heheheehe, i reckon you are setting yourselves up for disappointment! he was no great shakes when he played for the cheetahs before going overseas. i don’t expect him to be super duper now 5 years or so later… πŸ˜€

  • Comment 73, posted at 23.05.11 12:59:50 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Honey Badger (Comment 71) : yeah Zuks must come back home to the KINGS! πŸ˜›

  • Comment 74, posted at 23.05.11 13:01:06 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 74) : He’s a Xhosa. What are you?

  • Comment 75, posted at 23.05.11 13:02:42 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 75) : i’m most definitely an umXhosa bloke, but i don’t see the relevance this has to rugby…anyway πŸ˜€

  • Comment 76, posted at 23.05.11 13:09:30 by Megatron Reply

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  • @franshark (Comment 55) : Frans – this is according to rugga stats – so would presume it’s pretty accurate. But please count! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 77, posted at 23.05.11 13:10:03 by Ice Reply
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  • Megatron how many people supported the Kings on Fri against the baby boks? I watched how they last to the babies couldn’t help laughing too but great to watch.

  • Comment 78, posted at 23.05.11 13:15:23 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 78) : why would you laugh when the Baby Boks were playing the Kings Academy with a sprinkle of the reserves from the 1st team? πŸ˜›

    how many fans do you think would go to kings park to watch the baby boks play the sharks academy when they don’t show up when your main team plays the blue bulls, hehehe πŸ˜†

  • Comment 79, posted at 23.05.11 13:18:31 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 76) : You know what they say. Keep your friends close and keep your enemy’s closer. πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 80, posted at 23.05.11 13:18:54 by Ben Reply
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  • @Stu (Comment 70) : welcome stu, the problem is that the guys we have is good enough for cc, so I hope that they will not only look at cc level but do think ahead, els these okes gonna play all of cc.

  • Comment 81, posted at 23.05.11 13:20:12 by franshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 81) : I tink the problem is our coach is only good enough at CC level :mrgreen:

  • Comment 82, posted at 23.05.11 13:36:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 82) : Now there is a comment that may raise a few eyebrows?

  • Comment 83, posted at 23.05.11 13:39:44 by Greg Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 83) : yes – it may. And will win me few friends in Durban.

    But probably worth discussing at least?

  • Comment 84, posted at 23.05.11 13:46:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 84) :

    The question is, who is good enough to take the Sharks to Super glory?

    Or is it that we only require assistant coaches with more to give?

  • Comment 85, posted at 23.05.11 13:53:40 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 75) : Megatron is apparently a Swazi umXhosa.

  • Comment 86, posted at 23.05.11 13:56:54 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Kapow!!!!!!!

  • Comment 87, posted at 23.05.11 14:00:34 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 87) :

    Congrats!!

    5-star performance!!

  • Comment 88, posted at 23.05.11 14:01:29 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 86) : what the hell? 😯

  • Comment 89, posted at 23.05.11 14:04:43 by Megatron Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 84) : You could well be right, remind me again when he took over as head coach?

  • Comment 90, posted at 23.05.11 14:08:14 by Greg Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 88) : Hehe Thanks.

  • Comment 91, posted at 23.05.11 14:08:35 by Ben Reply
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  • As much as i agree with most that is said in here? what worries me is a few area’s.

    Forwards playing as individuals and not a hungry pack, Sykes haas not had a good game for prolly the last 5 matches ( his mind maybe in Ireland already)?
    Bismark not as agro and hard as before?? ( this seems to be since Pdivvy came to durbs re Smit)?
    Scrums have not been bad and i felt our scrum did fine against the Bulls, our lineouts still an issue but we did not do to badly there against the bulls
    Simple fact is our forwards got out muscled in general play and loose forwards got bullied

    Backline we had 3 players that can be happy with their performance
    Lambie,JPP and Odwa ,ADI was not to bad besides aroun d 4 missed tackles

    Main concern here is center pairing not doing well and Mcleod is playing poor rugby

    slow service and poor decision making and option taking

  • Comment 92, posted at 23.05.11 14:10:52 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Sorry forgot to add

    There seems to be no urgency in the team , no hunger ??????

    watch the last 4 matches and see no hunger at all , only 2nd half when we in troubloe do they start playing

    only 1 of those matches could we win, that against a very poor Brumbies team in Durban

    Mindsets to aint right, attitudes need to be looked at

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 93) : spelling and grammar need to be looked at

  • Comment 94, posted at 23.05.11 14:15:31 by Ice Reply
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  • They need to get the help in of Dr Calder the lady that helped out the Boks etc

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  • @Ice (Comment 94) : 😈 πŸ˜†

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  • @Ice (Comment 94) :

    hehehe..

  • Comment 97, posted at 23.05.11 14:18:59 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 93) : I agree 100%. The Sharks are rudderless on that field at the moment. There is no clear leadership, and that, in my opinion, is what is letting them down the most.
    The lack of direction, of concisive decision-making and clear headed captaincy is beginning to disturb me greatly, especially when you consider how everything came together so well at the end of last season.
    What has changed?
    The amount of talent on the field has not changed THAT drastically. Sure, a few of the players are tired/off form but intrinsically the ability is still there, but somehow it is not cohesive. The Sharks are not playing as a team. They are playing like 15 individuals.
    I think the question that really needs to be asked is “Do we have a captain, and if so would someone please point him out?”
    A rudderless ship will always find the rocks.

    PS: Sorry I’ve been out of action with an internet cap that was hit prematurely. Sorted now!

    xxx

  • Comment 98, posted at 23.05.11 14:19:39 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 82) : Sadly, I must concur with this. 2011 is shaping into yet another Season That Could Have Been, which, unfortunately, seems to be a common thread on the great narractive arc of Sharks rugby since the mid- to late ’90’s.

    What makes it even more galling is that at the start of the season so many factors seemed to be aligned in our favour; we had won the Currie Cup in 2010 with much the same personnel, dominating all local opposition; we started touring early, avoiding the humid and oppressive Durban conditions, and facing a relatively favourable selection of teams on the road; we had retained a number of key players despite big money offers at other unions; we had, for the first time in who knows how long a bona fide flyhalf in Pat Lambie; and lastly, we had assessed areas where we lacked depth, and recruited accordingly.

    Theoretically, we went into the season with a settled, happy squad (including back room staff) of talented individuals, who had performed well against local opposition (who would make up the bulk of our opposition in the revised format), with depth in all positions, and a forgiving tour schedule. I think we the fans could be forgiven for having gotten rather excited about it all.

    And yet, here we find ourselves over the barrel again, and when I look at the reasons (poor player management – rotation, selection and succession planning being the glaring issues -, tactical naivety, lack of defensive of attacking systems and structures, appalling basic skill levels, and of course, the inabaility to adapt to- or address any of aforementioned), then I can’t help but feel that most of the blame has to rest at the coach(es)’ feet.

    There has also been a clear lack of intensity from the players, but even there I feel the coaches have some culpability, as players are being overplayed, or alternatively, selected regardless of performance, with the result that there is not a healthy level of competition for starting spots in certain positions, and players can rest on their laurels.

  • Comment 99, posted at 23.05.11 14:19:51 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 98) : yep – you are awfully quiet… ❓

  • Comment 100, posted at 23.05.11 14:22:11 by Ice Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 98) : hey sharon, hope u gonna read my post ‘back home’ trying to learn from u how to wright properly πŸ™‚

  • Comment 101, posted at 23.05.11 14:25:38 by franshark Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 98) : How about that Loftus thing?

  • Comment 102, posted at 23.05.11 14:27:42 by Ice Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 99) : I hear what you say, but a coach can only do so much. The will to win is something only the players can conjure up.
    I don’t doubt that John Mitchell is a good coach, but I seriously doubt whether the goods he is dealing with at the Lions really want to play rugby.
    I think there is a sad tendency in this country for players (and supporters) to think that a coach has to prove himself worthy of his team. Players tend to think of themselves as the bee’s knees and that the coach is there for appearance’s sake only.
    Everywhere else in the world, especially in Australia and NZ, the coach is the head honcho and the players have to prove themselves worthy of being in the team or they are out.
    In my book, the coach is the king, and the players the pawns.
    Maybe I’m wrong? But that’s not very often! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 103, posted at 23.05.11 14:28:02 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 89) : Ok then, a Swazi schooled umXhosa.

  • Comment 104, posted at 23.05.11 14:28:16 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 94) : lol ice dagse taante :mrgreen: , check your own spelling their πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜†

    en eish te besig om not te proef lees πŸ™„ πŸ˜†

  • Comment 105, posted at 23.05.11 14:29:33 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 99) : I agree, also when your captain is not leading by example, how is he leading?

  • Comment 106, posted at 23.05.11 14:29:42 by franshark Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 102) : That Loftus thing? Is ek n’bietjie blonde, there darlin?
    Sorry I’ve been so quiet. Busy with the Naas thing. Hectic!
    Then the internet cap was hit on Tuesday night… nightmare. πŸ˜† πŸ™„

  • Comment 107, posted at 23.05.11 14:30:11 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 101) : Will have a looksie and let you know! πŸ˜›

  • Comment 108, posted at 23.05.11 14:30:58 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 107) : Either Loftus or CC park – talked about organising a “outing” when our boys are playing there (the night of the get-t-gether!)

  • Comment 109, posted at 23.05.11 14:32:29 by Ice Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 99) : Agree with that last paragraph 100% (didn’t see it before I posted the reply).
    There is zero intensity in the team right now. They are rather gormless and lacklustre, in fact.

  • Comment 110, posted at 23.05.11 14:33:09 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 105) : πŸ˜† what’s wrong with my spelling? πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 111, posted at 23.05.11 14:33:41 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 109) : Yup. Remember now. Let’s do something? I may be up in Zambia on the 6th for a week or so, not sure yet, but yup. Let’s brainstorm! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 112, posted at 23.05.11 14:34:23 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 112) : Gosh! Us “brainstorming” can be dangerous! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 113, posted at 23.05.11 14:35:57 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 113) πŸ˜† Especially if alcohol is involved! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 114, posted at 23.05.11 14:36:57 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 103) : Agree with you about the will to win coming from the players (although the coach can certainly influence that to a certain extent).

    The thing that gets me though is that in a number of games, particularly the 2nd loss to the Stormers, it was not so much that we lost, nor that we were beaten by a better team, but the fact that they had clearly out-thought us in engineering their respective victories.

    I’m not going to get on my soapbox and rant about the whole play-to-your-strengths-attack-their-weaknesses spiel again, but you get my drift.

  • Comment 115, posted at 23.05.11 14:53:39 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 98) : guys were doing conditioning two weeks ago, hope they won’t start another Super Rugby competition this under cooked. Only explanation for our boys being treated like news boys against matrics on the field.

  • Comment 116, posted at 23.05.11 15:06:34 by GreatSharksays Reply

     
  • @Culling Song (Comment 115) : Absolutely. We need to find the flair and unpredictability that the Reds and the Saders have been demonstrating. It doesn’t look like the Sharks are having fun out there at the moment. They aren’t enjoying their rugby. And it shows. 😐

  • Comment 117, posted at 23.05.11 15:07:20 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 99) : when are you going to start writing for us?

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  • @robdylan (Comment 118) : I told him this weekend to start writing for SW!

  • Comment 119, posted at 23.05.11 15:10:00 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 98) : hey Shazzy-poo 😳

  • Comment 120, posted at 23.05.11 15:10:43 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 111) : πŸ˜€ bugger you fixed it πŸ˜† πŸ˜† mooi so

  • Comment 121, posted at 23.05.11 15:11:29 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 121) : he he… careful πŸ™‚

  • Comment 122, posted at 23.05.11 15:12:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 118) : When I actually get to understand rugby properly! I only played from grade 5 – 8, and never really understood the game thoroughly then, and still don’t. I enjoy watching, but my comments are really just other people on the site’s insights regurgigated in slickly packaged format.

  • Comment 123, posted at 23.05.11 15:12:28 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 116) : To an extent I agree. I was shocked at how easily the Bulls pack made mincemeat of us, especially given our Springbok front row. 😯

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  • @robdylan (Comment 122) : πŸ˜† hiyas bro

  • Comment 125, posted at 23.05.11 15:14:52 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 120) : Meggy-moo… how ya doin? πŸ˜›

  • Comment 126, posted at 23.05.11 15:15:01 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 117) : hiyas aunty sharon, you well?? πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 127, posted at 23.05.11 15:15:53 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 122) : How do you like my new look? πŸ™‚

  • Comment 128, posted at 23.05.11 15:16:29 by Ben Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 123) : Don’t sell yourself so short. You know way more than I do, and I am on a stellar learning curve right now…! πŸ˜† Your posts are always excellent and you write superbly. So don’t hide your light under that thar bushell! πŸ˜›

  • Comment 129, posted at 23.05.11 15:17:18 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 123) :
    So what you’re saying is that you know just as much about rugby as you do about whisky 😈 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 130, posted at 23.05.11 15:17:26 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 127) : Howzit skat! Fine thanks. Just busy! πŸ˜›

  • Comment 131, posted at 23.05.11 15:18:02 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 124) : sharon , if one looks at our last 5 starts you will see the new sharks way of late

    we get pummelled in the first half and then try fight back in the 2nd

    well we only won 1 of the last 4 with only the brumbies falling to us in the 2nd half

    this is not the sharks way

  • Comment 132, posted at 23.05.11 15:18:03 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 132) : I agree with you. And it is becoming a BAD habit, and one which will be hard to break. It worries the hell out of me, because we all know what our team is capable of, but they seem to have forgotten it completely!

  • Comment 133, posted at 23.05.11 15:19:12 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 130) : What whiskey does he like?

  • Comment 134, posted at 23.05.11 15:20:14 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 134) : Laphroaig if he has any sense! πŸ˜›

  • Comment 135, posted at 23.05.11 15:21:31 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 130) : πŸ˜† Good one! Love your avatar too!!!

  • Comment 136, posted at 23.05.11 15:22:10 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 134) :
    It’s a long story….but Culling actually knows a lot about whisky….more than the average person I would think and he knows his rugby more that he’s letting on!

  • Comment 137, posted at 23.05.11 15:23:29 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 137) : @SharonvanWyk (Comment 135) : Hehe don’t know much about whiskey buy Jaimeson is the best I’ve ever had.

  • Comment 138, posted at 23.05.11 15:25:29 by Ben Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 135) :
    We sipped on a Glenfiddich 15 year old Solera Reserve last week and we both thought is was very nice.

    Next will be the Glenfiddich Snow Phoenix which I’m looking forward to! πŸ˜€

  • Comment 139, posted at 23.05.11 15:26:57 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 137) : He does come to the fore as someone who knows his rugby.

  • Comment 140, posted at 23.05.11 15:27:19 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 128) : what new look?

  • Comment 141, posted at 23.05.11 15:28:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 125) : hey dude… how’s life?

  • Comment 142, posted at 23.05.11 15:29:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • I see Morne mentioned it on another thread: we have the strike runners to make the yard, but the gameplan doesn’t allow them any space. Those saying we don’t have the personnel are wrong – its the selections that are mindless.

    I really respect Stefan as a Sharks legend and a helluva guy, but some here will remember me moaning about his selection ever since he was elevated above Murray and Adi.

    A 13 is a strike runner first and foremost – when the ball gets to him, the opposition should be worried. Like I said to Ice, which other 13 do we see who kicks up and unders? We are sacrificing penetration at this key position for who knows what.

    Remember the excitement when Jeremy Thompson got the ball? It feels that long since we had an attacking 13.

    Same regarding the back 3 – the complaint is that they are not involved enough. Sure, they should run good lines and look to be played in, but its the inside backs who set the moves – we have 2 of the best wings in the business and a very good 15 who are allowed no opportunity to express themselves on attack.

    Regarding the staid forward play: our boys are not sissies or weaklings – but anyone will become hesitant and impotent if the whole world can read you and have 3 men waiting to tackle you: poor strategy will make good players useless and lack confidence.

    Finally, that dreaded fall-back: attitude. Before these poor players are called out for poor attitude, let’s remember that the coaches are the ones who saw fit to do away with the mind coach in any event (I don’t believe we have one at all anymore).

    Sure, the players let themselves down, but let’s not forget that this is a squad packed with talent, and that they play the way the coach tells them too.

    Time for Plumtree to declare his mea culpa and take responsibility. Right now, he has got the boys playing the rugby of the Sharks under Rudolph Straueli.

  • Comment 143, posted at 23.05.11 15:30:18 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 143) :

    Interesting views Fish..

  • Comment 144, posted at 23.05.11 15:32:50 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 141) : Stars?

  • Comment 145, posted at 23.05.11 15:32:51 by Ben Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 143) : umm, no… cos we actually reached the Super 12 final under Straeuli…

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 143) :

    I believe a mental coach will give our team the necessary mental capacity to pull back from a bad start like we had against the Bulls and be able to win it..

  • Comment 147, posted at 23.05.11 15:34:33 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 40) : LOL not even Mark Lawrence would`ve been able to save us I`m afraid.

  • Comment 148, posted at 23.05.11 15:35:34 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 143) :

    If you had control over the backline, how would your selections differ?

  • Comment 149, posted at 23.05.11 15:35:35 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 143) : Andre Snyman was the closest we ever came after the great Jeremy 13 ! :mrgreen:

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  • @Ben (Comment 145) : ah yes! Well done indeed, sir. Very nice achievement

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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 150) : Andre Snyman before we got him, you mean. Before he’d broken both legs.

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 135) : great taste Shazzy πŸ˜‰ i enjoy a good single malt too

  • Comment 153, posted at 23.05.11 15:44:06 by Megatron Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 146) :
    You know what I mean dummkopf! πŸ˜†

    And Straueli didn’t have the talent that Plumtree has.

    In every position except lock and perhaps scrumhalf, we have world-class players. Poor Rudolf’s “stars” were the likes of Henno Mentz and Trevor Halstead.

    @Richard Ferguson (Comment 149) :
    Wouldn’t change too much in personnel: Bosman 12, Adi 13, Mvovo 14.

    I would change the way we used our backline more than anything, and address the defensive marshalling. Who is in charge right now? I honestly have no idea.

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 123) : nice try, but I’m not buying πŸ™‚ Try again

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 154) : Dries Strauss is still in charge. See what I mean?

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  • @robdylan (Comment 151) : Had to talk a lot of shite to get here. Will calm down now. πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 157, posted at 23.05.11 15:49:30 by Ben Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 154) :

    Thoughts on whether Bosman at 12 this weekend would have kept Olivier busy? Would he have made a difference?

  • Comment 158, posted at 23.05.11 15:49:51 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 154) : Fishy, my point on Straeuli is that I actually feel, in lot of ways, he was actually a better coach than Plumtree. Say what you like about his methods, but his results – at least in Super Rugby – were better, with a worse squad to boot.

  • Comment 159, posted at 23.05.11 15:50:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 156) :

    Hahahaha!!!

  • Comment 160, posted at 23.05.11 15:50:26 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 132) : Actually now that you put it like that, very similar of the Boks in the TriNations 2010, always pumped in the first half with a brave fightback in the end.

    Hopefully if the Sharks can fix their issues it’ll translate for the Boks.

  • Comment 161, posted at 23.05.11 15:51:10 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 159) :

    Strauli was good, what I can remember..

    And he made a difference at Bok level when he took that job!

  • Comment 162, posted at 23.05.11 15:51:46 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 162) : initially, at least πŸ™‚

  • Comment 163, posted at 23.05.11 15:58:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 158) :
    I don’t think so: we lost that game up-front. Only a gameplan change would have won that.

    @robdylan (Comment 159) :
    I get your point, and fully agree. To be honest, despite our partisan natures, this is probably one of the most talented Sharks squads ever.

  • Comment 164, posted at 23.05.11 16:06:08 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 163) :

    They all seem to be good initially..

    And then they somehow end up under the bus?!

  • Comment 165, posted at 23.05.11 16:10:32 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 152) : Well then Jeremy was the best we ever had and nobody else came close.

  • Comment 166, posted at 23.05.11 16:13:41 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 158) : Would`ve made zero difference.

    The loss was not Adi`s fault at all.

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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 167) :

    Im not blaming Adi..

    You have to remember the centres practice the entire week, a disruption before the start of the game can cause confusion and loss of communication.

  • Comment 168, posted at 23.05.11 16:17:13 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • ok – so maybe we need to take a step back here.

    Our forwards were owned… pretty much in every facet bar the scrums, where matters were about even. Why was that?

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 168) : I have an idea that combo was on the cards from the start – so we were played..just an opinion..

  • Comment 170, posted at 23.05.11 16:19:33 by Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 169) :

    Man for man, we probably have the better players in the front row, they own the locks, and we should eat them in the loosies.

    As a unit they worked together better…

  • Comment 171, posted at 23.05.11 16:20:08 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 168) : I’m pretty sure they trained with Adi at 12… the decision to not name him there even though everybody knew he was going to play there was frankly just silly. Sharks playing mind games that were never really going to fool anyone.

  • Comment 172, posted at 23.05.11 16:21:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 165) : I have to agree with you Rich, when you say that we need a mental coach. When you consider that we have a biokineticist, then the leap to mental coach is not that difficult, and in many respects more productive in terms of the scoreboard…
    @Big Fish (Comment 164) : Spot-on. We definitely caved-in up front. And are desperately in need of an overhauled game plan.
    @robdylan (Comment 163) : I’m interested in what you think would make Plum a better coach? Is the problem as you see it with Plum, per se, or is it with the entire coaching team? I think our backline is shoddy at the moment, so naturally feel our backline coach is letting us down… Get my drift?

  • Comment 173, posted at 23.05.11 16:21:46 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 170) :

    Quite possible..

    And their team had two disruptions and it didn’t seem to affect them at all..

  • Comment 174, posted at 23.05.11 16:22:01 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 172) :

    I wasn’t aware of this.. apologies..

  • Comment 175, posted at 23.05.11 16:23:16 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 171) : if one looks at the stats, there isn’t anything obvious to explain it either. We attended more rucks than they did… we even forced them to make more tackles and they missed more than we did as well.

    I reckon it comes down to poor execution of the basics by our forwards. Poor technique at the breakdown, coupled with poor handling and a lack of “clinicalness” in the set phases. Has this been a problem all season? Have we managed to win against teams with physically smaller packs in spite of our own deficiencies up front?

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 173) :

    The thing is that we had a very good one, and that somehow management decided to shunt him..

    He was invaluable during our good run 2 years ago.. It’s a shame really!

  • Comment 177, posted at 23.05.11 16:24:38 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 166) :
    Andre Snyman’s career was a tragedy. He should have been a legend, but those leg injuries made him just a footnote. Kind of how I feel about Bobby Skinstad – he should have been a Bok record-holder, but his career just stalled.

    @robdylan (Comment 169) :
    Predictable, and failure to evolve. Crusaders, Stormers and Bulls all beat us the same way.

    I actually feel we dominated the scrums. But remember Jake saying that statistically there are about 2 lineouts to every scrum in the modern game: scrums don’t really matter, especially since we never completely demolish opposition scrums.

    Also, our cleaning and technique at ruck time is abysmall.

    Beast was twice pinged for holding onto the ball. The first time Sykes and Hargreaves went in for the clean and failed, the second time the cleaners were Pat and Botes – only!

    I don’t blame a ball-carrier for poor cleaning.

  • Comment 178, posted at 23.05.11 16:25:20 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 176) :

    Im going to mail you something and you tell me if you can read any of that in the stats I had before the Bulls game..

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  • @robdylan (Comment 176) :
    Ruck attendance, like counting phases, gives you an incomplete and impoverished view of the game.

    Ruck attendance is only relevant if the clean or steal is good. Botes hit plenty of rucks, but I didn’t see him being effective in the clean.

    Saffers tend to think counting phases indicates success. It doesn’t: gain line advantage and speed of ball tells you what you need to know. The Crusaders off-loading in the tackle probably limits their total phase count, but does it matter?

    Similarly carries is irrelevant without looking at metres gained.

  • Comment 180, posted at 23.05.11 16:31:34 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 170) : Plum said after the Brumbies game he was going to consider starting Adi…
    @robdylan (Comment 172) : @Richard Ferguson (Comment 171) :
    I think the problem we have at the moment, as I have said before, is that we have begun to get into the habit of having an absolutely khazi first-half. Our second half was way better than our first on Saturday, but we got completely creamed in the first half and were absolutely outclassed.
    However… and here comes the kicker… Or actually, kickers… Rob and I have been discussing the fact that we are worried about SuperPat’s performances of late.
    I think Pat is being starved of decent ball by McLeod and decent support (especially defensively) and onward transmission from the backline (specifically inside centre, and in this instance I mean Bosman). This is completely neutralising Pat’s ability to create effective charges and is also stopping him from breaking opposition defences and slipping through himself.
    The only way he is able to contribute meaningfully at the moment is on defence, with his tackling. And while he missed a couple on Saturday, generally speaking since his comeback from injury, he has had to handle more defence than playmaking. Which is a waste.
    While everyone is going on (and on, and on) about Pat vs Morne Steyn, the fact is that on Saturday both missed only one kick. It was sad that Pat’s was crucial, but the cookie crumbles oddly at times.
    The REAL reason we lost on Saturday, in my opinion, is because we conceded WAY TOO MANY PENALTIES…
    We always knew that penalties mean kicks at goal, and Morne Steyn rarely misses kicks at goal. Ergo, take away penalties against us and you have a very different scorecard.
    πŸ˜›

  • Comment 181, posted at 23.05.11 16:35:07 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 181) : Penalties yes but those knocks killed us as well.

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 179) : thanks Rich… let me ahve a squizz

  • Comment 183, posted at 23.05.11 16:42:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 179) : jeez… I’m not clever enough to actually determine anything from those stats

  • Comment 184, posted at 23.05.11 16:46:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 181) : Yes, but by the same token alot of the Bulls game plan is to force the opposition into penalties (also a Stormers tactic), since they know they’ll convert 90% of them (although this has been percentage has been a little less this year). So while its easy to say “give away less penalties” its a lot harder to put into practice in the real world.

    You conceded penalties because your forwards got dominated, not because of what “SuperPat” could or couldn’t accomplish with the ball he did/didn’t recieve or pass on. You put too much emphasis on him, he is just one player in the greater 22.

  • Comment 185, posted at 23.05.11 16:48:48 by molly Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 181) : so again… penalties and knocks. Both come from poor execution of the basics. Most of the penalties were conceded for technical infringements at the breakdown. Mostly by forwards. And the vast majority of the knocks and other execution errors came from the forwards.

    So what the f**k is up with our forwards? Because coaching good forward play is MEANT to be Plumtree’s forte… at least, if he’s not doing that, then who the hell is?

  • Comment 186, posted at 23.05.11 16:51:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 185) : wait – hang on….

    now we get to a potentially important stat that I don’t believe we have yet. How many penalties were conceded on attack v defence. Or actually, come to think of it, if the pack is being dominated to the extent you say (which I feel was true) it probably wouldn’t matter.

  • Comment 187, posted at 23.05.11 16:52:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 187) : Look Rob, I don’t really know how good/bad the forward pack has been, but I’ve noticed too many times where the debate keeps coming back to “SuperPat” and he isn’t your problem and shouldn’t be your focus. When the forwards give him loads of front foot ball he will perform, like he has so many times in the past.

  • Comment 188, posted at 23.05.11 16:55:14 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 187) : I was however shocked how many times Alberts dropped the ball, he’s never really been one for knocking on, and at least one of them was in a brilliant field position, he needs a break I think. Hopefully Deysel can shake off the rust and Kanko/Daniel can take the 8th man jersey so Alberts can have a breather. Much the same as I hope Vermuelen gets a breather now, too much impact and not enough rest.

  • Comment 189, posted at 23.05.11 16:57:34 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 185) : Hi Molly, that comment was directed at Rob and Rich, because of a conversation Rob and I had about Pat. It didn’t actually refer to Saturday’s performance per se, but more in general since things began to go pear-shaped when Pat got injured, and have not really recovered since his return. 😳
    I agree that Pat isn’t our problem, and most definitely is not our focus, but in the same way that Grant is very much a playmaker for the Stormers, as is Carter for the Saders and Cooper for the Reds, the shortcomings in the team eventually lead back to him and his efficacy and very much have a domino effect.
    I agree with your point on penalties and the Bulls forcing them (as do the Stormers) and appreciate the fact that it’s hard to overcome this, but we are talking about professional rugby players here, not schoolkids (even though the Sharks did quite a good impression of them on Saturday! 😯 )
    If you and I know that this is a Bulls tactic, then hell… so should they! And do all in their power to evade every “trap” set for them.
    Sad to say I think you are right about Alberts. He needs a break. And Saturday was not his finest hour.
    πŸ™

  • Comment 190, posted at 23.05.11 17:25:33 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 186) : Like you said, take it back to basics and move on from there… 😐

  • Comment 191, posted at 23.05.11 17:27:28 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 187) : Would still be nice to see those stats.

  • Comment 192, posted at 23.05.11 17:28:28 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 188) : oh right… yes. I think we are probably on the same page.

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  • @molly (Comment 189) : we’re not going to have Kanko back for a while…

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 190) : I don’t know if I agree. If Lambie performs well that doesn’t mean his team will win, but if the forwards do… then there’s a MUCH bigger chance. And while there may be a domino effect, I think it starts when the forwards aren’t performing rather than the pivot not.

  • Comment 195, posted at 23.05.11 17:41:27 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 194) : Daniel’s ok there, and while I haven’t seen much of Marcell I trust he’s as impressive as you guys say.

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  • @molly (Comment 185) : “…You put too much emphasis on him, he is just one player in the greater 22…”

    Do I detect a touch of the dictatorial or the diva in that comment? πŸ˜†

  • Comment 197, posted at 23.05.11 17:47:05 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 195) : OK. You seem to be misunderstanding me completely. I said that the shortcomings in the team (ie: the forwards, etc etc etc) have a domino effect on the efficiency of the pivot/playmaker to make his plays…
    At no point have I said that if Lambie plays well, the team will win. And yes, the forwards, as you so ably pointed out, need to perform well, but then let’s not put too much emphasis on them, they are, after all, only part of the greater 22… πŸ˜†

  • Comment 198, posted at 23.05.11 17:52:06 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 194) : Is there any news on how long he’s likely to be out? What was the injury to his cheek, exactly?

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 197) : Ag, its just an observation, use it – don’t use it.

  • Comment 200, posted at 23.05.11 17:55:51 by molly Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 198) : yes, one BIG cohesive unit of the 22, I’d hardly underplay their importance. The “powderpuff” Stormers of the past are proof of it.

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 198) : and yes, I did misread your comment, apologies. But I still think of Lambie as the third domino in the effect, not the first.

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 130) : Ouch! Fair though… Having said that, I’m a lot more motivated to learn more about whisky than I am rugby, particularly with what the Sharks have been serving up of late…

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  • @molly (Comment 200) : πŸ˜† OK. Cool. I won’t use it. But thanks anyway! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 204, posted at 23.05.11 18:03:13 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 202) : Apology accepted! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 205, posted at 23.05.11 18:04:25 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 201) : Well they’ve certainly overcome that particular nametag. The comeback on Saturday was outstanding.

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 135) : I’ve tried a fair few whiskies, but have not had enough of most to be able to give an informed opinion. However, I have yet to taste any of the typical smoke-heavy peated monsters birthed in the Islay and Isle of Skye regions that I do not like, whether they be single malts like Laphroaig, Ardbeg, Caol Ilha or Talisker, or blends like Black Bottle or Islay Mist. So there you have it!

  • Comment 207, posted at 23.05.11 18:06:31 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 204) : rad πŸ™„

    @SharonvanWyk (Comment 205) : sooper, focus on the important part of the comment there πŸ˜• πŸ™„

  • Comment 208, posted at 23.05.11 18:15:39 by molly Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 206) :
    Dear Sharon

    How is this line working out for you this week?

    “They (the Bulls)don’t want to win more than the Sharks, they are just afraid of losing and the embarrassment it will cause them if they do”.

  • Comment 209, posted at 23.05.11 18:20:21 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 209) : Not terribly well, actually! πŸ˜† Hoist with my own petard, there, I was! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 210, posted at 23.05.11 18:32:16 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 164) : @Big Fish (Comment 143) :

    Fish

    In Vaisnava Hindu discussion, when a dude says something particularly insightful, sometimes other people who’re in the room listening will mumble or shout “Sadhu! Sadhu!” which means “wise man” or “sage” – the idea being that when somebody says something so completely on-point that you can’t add anything, it’s natural and fitting to just recognize out loud.

    Right now, that seems to be the most appropriate response to your posts. Well that and maybe starting up an ashram in your name.

  • Comment 211, posted at 23.05.11 18:33:22 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 208) : πŸ˜• πŸ™„ ???
    Actually, I’m too busy focusing on steadfastly refusing to rise to your apparent baiting… Seems you like to chum the waters, Molly. Not sure what I have done to offend you, but evidently my friendly olive branches are being wasted, which is a shame because I like lively debate, but without the barbs.

  • Comment 212, posted at 23.05.11 18:44:27 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 207) : I tried Laphroaig once. And nearly gagged… So we’re on the same page there!!! Sadly, with the exception of Glenfiddich, the rest of my whiskey/whisky experience is limited to sour-mash and good ole JD and Jim Beam! And even worse, with Coke! (the drink, not snorty stuff!)

  • Comment 213, posted at 23.05.11 18:49:31 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 213) : I think you misread my comment; I *do* like Laphroaig, very much so. Not so fond of the bourbon/sour-mash variety; I can drink it, but too much abuse during the recklessness of youth means that it tends to go down with a fight!

  • Comment 214, posted at 23.05.11 19:07:55 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 209) :
    I’m guessing sharon was extracting the urine there, but I find the issue of “wanting it more” quite interesting.

    Most studies on high performance/ successful individuals find not that these people wanted the success more, but that they were able to sustain that desire and focus more.

    Its not really a matter of wanting it more, its a matter of wanting it more for longer – and that sustainability of focus and desire (which sets aside the truly greats in any field) is not endemic, but cultured. THAT is the benefit of a good mental coach.

    @Culling Song (Comment 211) :
    I just say what everybody else in more words. But thank you: I take it from whence it comes.

    And your eloquence once again reiterates why we would all like you to scribe us a few articles. That and your demonstrated good appreciation of rugby knowledge. πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 215, posted at 23.05.11 19:08:25 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Shaz and Culling Song – Ever tried Lagavulin? As for Bourbon, only one I will drink is Gentleman Jack which is a single malt bourbon by Jack Daniels.

    There is a reason my only post this week is about Scotch Whisky, with no mention of our beloved Rugby Team.

  • Comment 216, posted at 23.05.11 19:26:15 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 211) : I’m a fairly simple and uncultured guy by my own admission but I really enjoy reading your rugby related posts. I second what Big Fish has said about you writing some things, stuff, you know, whatchamacallit…Articles!

  • Comment 217, posted at 23.05.11 19:26:17 by beet Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 199) : kanks had a cheekbone fracture that will keep him out for at least another month. The Sharks are trying to keep it quiet, but I honestly can’t see the point any more

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  • @robdylan (Comment 218) : The Sharks may be trying to keep it quiet, but it hasn’t stopped Kanko posting about his injury on Facebook.

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 216) : I haven’t tried Gentleman Jack, but it would need to be a huge improvement on regular Jack to pique my interest. I loathe that stuff. Too sweet with no subtlety.

    BTW, it’s not even a bourbon πŸ™‚

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  • @robdylan (Comment 220) : sourmash corn whiskey, close enough to a bourbon. It is much smoother than regular Jack, but still quite sweet. Jack Daniels has just come out with a honey sourmash.

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  • @robdylan (Comment 220) : Oh, and by the way, according to the North American Free Trade Agreement, all Tennessee Whiskey is defined as Bourbon.

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  • Although Bourbon whiskey originally came from Bourbon County in Kentucky, all American corn whiskey is generally considered Bourbon.

  • Comment 223, posted at 23.05.11 19:37:00 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 215) : This is the exact reason I didn’t do well at company 10 pin bowling on Friday night. In game 1 I was on fire, energetic, knocking down spares, not throwing a single “potential” gutterball, in my opponent’s slash work colleagues faces. I played one of my best games ever. In game 2 I no longer had that spark. The focus or desire were gone. I thought my saving grace was breaking 100 just just, however just about every employee incl the ladies that I’d trash-talked had somehow found the motivation to improve and beat me. 😳 I don’t really want to stop mouthin’ off, so I think a good mental coach is the way to go.

  • Comment 224, posted at 23.05.11 19:39:25 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 224) : Gee, I wonder what kind of motivation they possibly could have derived from your trash talking??? πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜€ :mrgreen: πŸ˜›

  • Comment 225, posted at 23.05.11 19:41:12 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 220) : The first “Bourbon” whiskey was produced in the 17th century in Virginia, Kentucky was part of the Virginia Colony, and there was no such place as Bourbon County Kentucky. The drink was simply called Corn Whiskey and did not take on the name Bourbon until after Jim Beam started producing whiskey in Bourbon County. There is far more “Bourbon” whiskey produced outside Bourbon County than inside Bourbon County.

  • Comment 226, posted at 23.05.11 19:45:18 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 225) : Hey I learnt trash talking from watching the NFL. With it comes the motivation to beat you’re opponent so that you can stick back to him, which they did. But all in good spirit.

  • Comment 227, posted at 23.05.11 19:47:03 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 227) : I am not sure why anyone would want to emulate NFL or NBA players when it comes to good ole ‘merican trash talk. πŸ˜‰

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 228) : This advice would have come in handy on THURSDAY night! πŸ™

  • Comment 229, posted at 23.05.11 19:52:54 by beet Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 216) :
    “There is a reason my only post this week is about Scotch Whisky, with no mention of our beloved Rugby Team.”

    I feel your pain brother.

    @beet (Comment 224) :
    That’s like me and shooting pool: when I’m on song, I’m damn good. But if I’m not really focused, my game drops by about 40%.

    Its also why I’m changing my lifestyle to a more healthy one after a few years of little exercise and too much junk food. Living healthy (eating well and exercising regularly) is a great way to build focus and discipline. These are essential for success in business.

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  • @beet (Comment 229) : Sorry, I should have been here then πŸ˜‰ The winningest American team of all time the Navy SEALs NEVER EVER trash talk. πŸ˜†

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 230) : Hmmmm I shoot pretty good Pool as well, except like you my game drops 40%, but only when I am playing a pretty woman! πŸ˜† Not exactly sure why. πŸ˜›

  • Comment 232, posted at 23.05.11 20:01:44 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Unfortunately my sailing performances for the past three weeks has been about on a par with the Sharks rugby performances. :mrgreen:

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 232) :
    Totally acceptable and praiseworthy drop in performance – its all about priorities. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 234, posted at 23.05.11 20:08:42 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 234) : It is either priorities or focus (specifically focusing on something that is not going to help my game). πŸ˜†

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 235) :
    Depends on what game you are playing old bean. πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 236, posted at 23.05.11 20:13:55 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 236) : If that is the case, then my focus is just fine. Doesn’t help my sailing and pool performances though. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 237, posted at 23.05.11 20:16:14 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Well Pesce Grande, I must be off, I have a meeting to attend. Be well Mister Feesh!

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 237) :
    Eye on the prize lad, eye on the prize! πŸ˜†

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 216) : Personally, I have not had Lagavulin, although I’ve eyeballed the 16 year old every time I’ve gone to the local liquor store (which also stocks the Kanonkop Paul Sauer that Rhineshark recommended). However, as with the Kanonkop, I just have not been able to part with the amount of cash required. Of course, now that we have a local whisky club going, I’m pretty sure it’ll feature somewhere in the very near future… πŸ˜‰

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 143) : those were the days, Adi was also good a few years ago. Time for management to rethink their strategy on backline play and players. My love for rugby doesn’t make me blind. Ludik, Mcleod, Bosman and Stef have not delivered the goods. It could be that we don’t have a backline and defence coach but the facts speak for themselves. I don’t think Marius Joubert is going to solve our problems at this level…we all saw what Butch brought to the party…0!

  • Comment 241, posted at 23.05.11 21:26:49 by GreatSharksays Reply

     
  • Odwa and JDP are out injured. Odwa played half the match with a broken hand. What a hero. Adi is also injured, doubt we will see him again this weekend.

    My team for the weekend. I know most will disagree.

    15 Ludik
    14 JP
    13 Swanepoel
    12 Lambie
    11 Mvovo
    10 JLP
    9 Hoffman
    8 Keeegs
    7 Jean Deysal
    6 Botes
    5 Mostert
    4 Hargreves
    3 Eugene
    2 Smit
    1 Beast

    Bismarck, Chadwick, Marcel, Sykes, Charl, Stef, Richards.

  • Comment 242, posted at 23.05.11 23:01:19 by Mocho Reply

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  • Wait Bosman replaces Richards.

  • Comment 243, posted at 23.05.11 23:04:34 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 242) : Hey Mocho, I really enjoyed the Westville game vs College. Unfortunately for Westville Fisher and Boulle didn’t get any quality ball all afternoon but the small flank Jackson Buthelezi was great again. He’s now one of my fav players of the season. It was a much closer game than the scoreline suggested

  • Comment 244, posted at 23.05.11 23:06:08 by beet Reply
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  • is john smit leaving the sharks at end of super rugby comp or end of currie cup?

  • Comment 245, posted at 24.05.11 03:02:41 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • All week you saw Bulls players tweeting and talking to journo’s how that game was going to be a crunch game. You kept hearing from the bulls camp how they are getting psyched and how ready they are.

    The sharks camp was quiet. Suppose it is hard to tweet when you’re on holiday.

    OK, so the sarcasm was uncalled for. The sad thing is that we just can’t seem to get ourselves mentally prepared for the big games…

  • Comment 246, posted at 24.05.11 07:29:45 by King Shark Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 242) : Wouldn’t mind that team. And no, keep Bosman out.

  • Comment 247, posted at 24.05.11 07:31:33 by King Shark Reply
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  • Ola! A little bragging from my side! Our netball team trailed 5 goals last night in league play-offs (to a team we have lost to before with more than 14 goals) – anyway, with a few minutes to go, we managed to beat them with 4 goals!! Changed to “plan B” by changing our whole game to short, hard passes instead of long over the head balls – and that change seem to through our opponents! Great BMT by the “ol ladies squad”! Think I can get a job at the Shark tank now?? πŸ˜†

  • Comment 248, posted at 24.05.11 07:53:54 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 248) : Even better would be if you could bottle that BMT! 😎

  • Comment 249, posted at 24.05.11 08:10:03 by King Shark Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 248) : Coool, you play Netbal! I love Netbal. Didn’t know this ’bout you.

  • Comment 250, posted at 24.05.11 08:57:55 by Letgo Reply
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  • I don’t feel like rugbu for a while after this. The Sharks are playing rugby that makes me mad. We don’t need changes to the team. We need changes to the way we play, then we can think of making changes to the players.

  • Comment 251, posted at 24.05.11 09:01:47 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 248) :

    Nice!!

    Congratulations!!

  • Comment 252, posted at 24.05.11 09:03:41 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 250) : Indeedo! I also managed the Natal U21 and U 23 teams and was assistant coach back in 2004. πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 253, posted at 24.05.11 09:05:33 by Ice Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 244) : sorry about the late reply beet. Yeah I hear that it was a matter of fitness, injury and kicks that won the game for college. Westville definitely need a new kicker, maybe hijack the U16 kicker. What do you think makes Jackson so effective? His not a normal loosie from people tell me.

    Hey beet how’s that Northwood match? What a win. I think that the Northwood coached planned for this win all season and Glenwood went there with expectations of a win. It really puts Northwood on the school rugby map. I won’t lie some of the Glenwood supporterts were needed to be brought down to reality. No offence ofcourse. Its all healthy for KZN. Beet how about doing a weekly round up of KZN school rugby on Monday or Tuesday. These boys will be the future, and its nice to have someone of your calibre and knowledge to let others know what’s happening. You wrote beautiful articles on R365.

  • Comment 254, posted at 24.05.11 19:18:12 by Mocho Reply

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