Richard Ferguson

Tale of the Tape: Sharks vs Tahs


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 26 May 2011 at 08:10
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Our friends at ruckingoodstats.com have sent me a boxing-like Tale of the Tape, for those that are not familiar with boxing, this compares the two boxer’s vital statistics, and as such, we will do a comparison on vital statistics between the Sharks and Waratahs based on their season averages so far. These stats are then also ranked per team, so if one of the teams are the worst at missed tackles, they will be ranked first.

Again I will only make the numbers clear and leave to you any conclusions that you can make from that. I am not going to make this a massive, intense article that you cannot absorb, so I am keeping it to only a few points that really stand out.

Surprisingly, a lot can made of the kicking out of hand numbers, which the Waratahs rank the highest in the competition in, making on average 27 kicks per game. The interesting part is the Sharks are best when kicking out of hand, with lowest ranking on kicks in error (this relates to kicking the ball out on the full etc). From what we saw the Waratahs doing last weekend, we can expect a fair few nudges and chips, so our back three will have to be on the ball.

A not so surprising stat is that of the handling errors, where I have explained before that RGS only count a handling error if it means loss of possession, and not like other sites where a loose pass and backwards drop counts as a handling error. The Sharks have the highest average of pure handling errors, but we all knew that this is a bit of a problem. What they can do to address this still baffles me, but it is a basic skill that will have to be worked on.

Lastly, something that I would not have noticed without the help of RGS, the Waratahs have the second highest amount of reset scrums in the competition, and this is where I think the Sharks need to focus and get penalties. Especially if they can pin them in their own half and force a few extra three pointers.

If there are any other specific stats that you would like to know, drop a comment and I will do my best to answer your questions.


54 Comments

  • Line breaks?
    Discipline? (Penalties and Cards)

  • Comment 1, posted at 26.05.11 08:18:59 by King Shark - Kanko at 12! Reply
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  • @King Shark – Kanko at 12! (Comment 1) :

    On average, we concede more penalties at ruck time and we are the team most ruled offside.,

    Waratahs are more prone to foul play penalties..

  • Comment 2, posted at 26.05.11 08:23:58 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 2) : “Waratahs are more prune to foul play penalties..” – eating too many prunes will lead to foul play, for sure 😉 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 3, posted at 26.05.11 08:32:27 by diablo Reply

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  • @diablo (Comment 3) :

    You only come out of the woodwork when I make a mistake like that !! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 4, posted at 26.05.11 08:33:31 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @diablo (Comment 3) :

    Some real comments will be appreciated..

  • Comment 5, posted at 26.05.11 08:34:35 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • When last did we beat the Tahs?

  • Comment 6, posted at 26.05.11 08:37:37 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • I am nervous for this game. Our game needs massive lifting – not just from last week, but in general – if we do not stop the rot in this game – then it is yet another season of The Sharks being their own worst enemies… I grow tired of being frustrated at them. Currie Cups are one thing – International tournament another.

  • Comment 7, posted at 26.05.11 08:41:32 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • Sharks only got 1 yellow this season – Bismark.
    Waratahs only 2 – Mumm and Carter.

    Stormers on 7…

  • Comment 8, posted at 26.05.11 08:43:01 by King Shark - Kanko at 12! Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 4) : Touchy this morning? Sorree, thought you had a sense of humour. 🙄

  • Comment 9, posted at 26.05.11 08:43:14 by diablo Reply

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  • The Tale of the tape that the Waratahs are most worried about is the one for referee Jonathan Kaplan.

    How many games have the Waratahs won compared to their opposition when JK refereed the match?

    Opponents 14
    Waratahs 2

  • Comment 10, posted at 26.05.11 08:45:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @ KSA good hope its payback for last year’s cheating Beal and I have blocked out the cheating ref’s name 👿

  • Comment 11, posted at 26.05.11 08:52:16 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @diablo (Comment 9) :

    C’mon, you saw the smiley..

    All in good fun..

  • Comment 12, posted at 26.05.11 08:53:32 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 6) : We’ve beaten them 3 times in 14 outings.

    Last win was in 2007 in Durban

    LOSS – S14 06 Mar 2010 Sharks v Waratahs 21-25 Sydney
    LOSS – S14 09 May 2009 Sharks v Waratahs 12-16 Durban
    LOSS – S14 24 May 2008 Sharks v Waratahs 13-28 Sydney (SF)
    LOSS – S14 26 Apr 2008 Sharks v Waratahs 10-25 Sydney
    WIN – S14 09 Feb 2007 Sharks v Waratahs 22-9 Durban
    LOSS – S14 04 Mar 2006 Sharks v Waratahs 16-31 Sydney
    LOSS – S12 05 Mar 2005 Sharks v Waratahs 13-36 Durban
    LOSS – S12 28 Feb 2004 Sharks v Waratahs 14-48 Sydney
    LOSS – S12 08 Mar 2003 Sharks v Waratahs 36-49 Durban
    LOSS – S12 23 Mar 2002 Sharks v Waratahs 8-42 Sydney
    WIN – S12 24 Mar 2001 Sharks v Waratahs 42-17 Durban
    WIN – S12 18 Mar 2000 Sharks v Waratahs 26-19 Sydney
    DRAW – S12 27 Feb 1999 Sharks v Waratahs 13-13 Durban
    LOSS – S12 05 Apr 1998 Sharks v Waratahs 18-51 Sydney

  • Comment 13, posted at 26.05.11 08:58:52 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 11) : Referee’s don’t cheat!

  • Comment 14, posted at 26.05.11 08:59:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 13) :

    That’s a bit surprising..

  • Comment 15, posted at 26.05.11 09:03:50 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : And juuuuuuuuust incase it is not clear who is reffing this weekend.

    Sharks vs Waratahs in Durban
    Referee: Jonathan Kaplan (South Africa)

    That ALONE should give the Waratahs’ mind coach HOURS of work. 😛

  • Comment 16, posted at 26.05.11 09:08:07 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 15) : YIP.

    We don’t have the best record against these guys.

    Going to be tough but we should up our win percentage a little after this game IMO.

  • Comment 17, posted at 26.05.11 09:09:43 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA spoken like a true ref! But that man cost us two consecutive matches through bad calls – the penalty try vs Waratahs and gave the line out to the Brumbies when they had kicked it out and should have gone to the Sharks and that gave them the winning try! So if not cheating then incompetent for sure. But sorry the blues complaine to SANZAR about his blowing of their game against Waratahs too many coincidences there sorry.

  • Comment 18, posted at 26.05.11 09:09:46 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 18) :
    Bad call? Yes!
    Cheat? NO WAY!!

  • Comment 19, posted at 26.05.11 09:11:11 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 13) : Looks like they have our number although they were lucky to beat us last year. Hope we win but I’m tired of mediocre performance from the Sharks.

  • Comment 20, posted at 26.05.11 09:11:19 by GreatSharksays Reply

     
  • GreatSharksays me too!

    Ok KSA the ozzi didn’t cheat but should never be allowed near a rugby field again 🙁

  • Comment 21, posted at 26.05.11 09:17:15 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 19) :

    Check your mail..

  • Comment 22, posted at 26.05.11 09:22:18 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 22) : 😎

  • Comment 23, posted at 26.05.11 09:30:22 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • We need to be more concerned with the ARs wanting to put their 2cents worth in to make sure they get in the limelight this weekend.

    Assistant referees: Jaco Peyper (South Africa), Stefan Breytenbach (South Africa)

  • Comment 24, posted at 26.05.11 09:33:44 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 24) : Yes – some of the AR calls in this tournament have been dubious at the least – there are some real bolters in the ranks…

  • Comment 25, posted at 26.05.11 09:36:05 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 25) : and usually from the up and coming ones trying to make name for themselves. Combine that with having two Saffas on the line trying to show that they are not favouring the local team and we could easily see another “nothing call” 🙁

  • Comment 26, posted at 26.05.11 09:38:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Waratahs have previously been able to nullify our forwards; if they manage that again this time, we will lose.

    Hope we bring some variation into the play and tighten up I the midfield – Beale is a real danger.

  • Comment 27, posted at 26.05.11 09:44:06 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 26) : Yep “Number 8 Shoulder charge” – mean while it was a ruck clean out… That has irritated me this season – the amount of ruck penalties that were indeed nothing calls…

  • Comment 28, posted at 26.05.11 09:44:57 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 28) : And let’s not forget last weekends bumbling call trying to point out Adi Jacobs’ jersey tug. That was another nothing call and the AR got himself flustered when he realised it.

  • Comment 29, posted at 26.05.11 09:46:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : Yes, that was a shocker – these annoyances have a marked impact on the game. And don’t belong in big league rugby… Its sometimes pathetic when you take stock of the level of officiating in an international tiered sport/competition…

  • Comment 30, posted at 26.05.11 09:52:33 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 13) : that looks freekin terrible, we need to get a few w’s in there

  • Comment 31, posted at 26.05.11 09:57:22 by franshark Reply
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  • @King Shark – Kanko at 12! (Comment 1) :

    Stats for the season so far regarding Yellow and Red cards. Citings are only listed if the players was found guilty and suspended.

    Blues: Y, Y
    Brumbies: C, Y
    Bulls: Y
    Cheetahs: Y, Y
    Chiefs: Y, Y, Y, Y
    Crusaders: Y, Y, Y
    Force: Y, R, Y, C, Y, Y, Y, Y
    Highlanders: Y, Y, Y, Y, Y
    Hurricanes: Y, Y, C, Y, Y, Y, C
    Lions: Y, C, Y, Y
    Rebels: Y, Y, Y, Y
    Reds: Y, Y, Y, Y, Y
    Sharks: Y, C
    Stormers: Y, Y, Y, Y, Y, Y
    Waratahs: Y, Y

  • Comment 32, posted at 26.05.11 09:57:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 26) : By being seen to be not favouring the Saffa team they could quiete easily be favouring another Saffa team (even the one they support, ;-))

  • Comment 33, posted at 26.05.11 10:52:46 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • How our ruck sats?

    Turn-overs at ruck time? Penalties at the ruck? I think that and general errors are the two things the sharks needs to work on the most.

    We don’t get enough players to the point of contact fast enough. There’s always a delay and that gives the opposition a chance to latch on. Get the upper hand, win the penalty or turn over and if not, just make the ball very slow for the Sharks.

    We need to take care of possession. Like we did last year. We keep losing the ball. How many different ways can you lose the ball? The sharks know all of them and they need to start eliminating them. It’s frustrating, because we’re not being beaten any more. We’re giving our wins anway!

  • Comment 34, posted at 26.05.11 11:08:49 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 34) :

    We average 75 rucks/mauls a match, which is the 9th highest in the competition. The Tahs rank 5th in this regard.

    Lost possession at ruck time – 3 a match avg (4th lowest)

    Penalties conceded at ruck time – 5 a match (5th lowest)

  • Comment 35, posted at 26.05.11 11:47:16 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 34) : Well said letgo!

    I also shout in every game for the people to get to the BALL and SUPPORT!! But there seems to be quite a lack of urgency and we tend to lose the ball or get a penealty for holding on – like Beast did last weekend..

  • Comment 36, posted at 26.05.11 11:48:33 by Ice Reply
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  • Bottom line, the Tahs has a good touring record in SA and can beat any team in SA on any day. We will have to pitch up for this one and play to the best of our abilities if we want to take away 5 points. Anything less could spell disaster for the men in black.

  • Comment 37, posted at 26.05.11 11:58:41 by Viking Reply
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  • FINALLY!!! Plum grew a pair and realised something needed to be done. He opted for Hoffman at 9 and Daniel at 8. Well done and probably what you need against the Tahs.

    Team for the weekend from Sharksrugby.co.za:
    1. John Smit (Captain)
    2. Bismarck du Plessis
    3. Eugene van Staden
    4. Steven Sykes
    5. Alistair Hargreaves
    6. Jacques Botes
    7. Jean Deysel
    8. Keegan Daniel
    9. Conrad Hoffmann
    10. Patrick Lambie
    11. Lwazi Mvovo
    12. Meyer Bosman
    13. Stefan Terblanche
    14. JP Pietersen
    15. Louis Ludik

    Replacements
    16. Tendai Mtawarira
    17. Wiehahn Herbst
    18. Gerhard Mostert
    19. Willem Alberts
    20. Charl McLeod
    21. Jacques-Louis Potgieter
    22. Riaan Swanepoel

  • Comment 38, posted at 26.05.11 12:23:22 by Viking Reply
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  • I am really happy to see that Daniel gets a chance at 8 and that Alberts the workhorse gets some rest and plays of the bench.

  • Comment 39, posted at 26.05.11 12:25:43 by Viking Reply
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  • Hopefully Hoffman can show us what he can do as well over the weekend. Would be great if he can make the step up.

  • Comment 40, posted at 26.05.11 12:26:35 by Viking Reply
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  • It looks like I am the only person that has an opinion about this? Is everyone else to busy with work to comment? 🙄

  • Comment 41, posted at 26.05.11 12:38:07 by Viking Reply
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  • @Viking (Comment 38) : really interesting team.

    not to chuffed seeing Bosman back starting, but I guess you cannot throw Swanepoel straight in.
    Thought that Alberts needs some rest so good to see him benched.
    and Finally let’s see what Hoffman can do.

  • Comment 42, posted at 26.05.11 12:48:07 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Viking (Comment 41) : they pretend they’re working …

  • Comment 43, posted at 26.05.11 12:48:41 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Viking (Comment 39) : let’s hope that Daniel can cause some havoc – he would have been good against the Bulls. Wonder how long before Kankowski is back.

  • Comment 44, posted at 26.05.11 12:52:35 by rekinek Reply
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  • Willem Alberts rest are so long overdue, he did not even have to be on the bench, what if a injury occur in the opening stage of the match…touch wood though 😉

  • Comment 45, posted at 26.05.11 12:53:17 by Charlie Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 44) : Daniel wil get them tired for the first 60 minutes, then you bring on Alberts to run them stukkend for the last 20. 😈 Lets hope all goes well and according to plan.

  • Comment 46, posted at 26.05.11 12:56:43 by Viking Reply
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  • @Viking (Comment 38) : I like I like 🙂

  • Comment 47, posted at 26.05.11 13:00:03 by franshark Reply
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  • @Viking (Comment 41) : No they are all waiting for the official announcement to comment on that thread. 🙂

  • Comment 48, posted at 26.05.11 14:23:41 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 48) :

    Hahahaha!

  • Comment 49, posted at 26.05.11 14:24:57 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 48) : LOLness 🙂

  • Comment 50, posted at 26.05.11 14:39:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • well gee if we loose one more i’m not doing anymore picks on SB until we do mmmm Chaz who are you kiding

    can do better i know it was pay back time so thought the Bulls they got that one right but lets at least win against the TAHS

    GO SHARKS GO

    and what is worse about that game i was camping but glued to the old fashion way of the 60’s RADIO 🙂

  • Comment 51, posted at 26.05.11 19:35:10 by chaz Reply

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  • We better win this one we are off the play off contenders

    hope the whole sharks team put there socks and feet in those

    WIN WIN AND JUST WIN 😆

  • Comment 52, posted at 26.05.11 20:22:44 by chaz Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 52) : We are not playing playoff quality rugby at the moment, and I think we will not progress much further if we make the playoff – but yes I hear you – JUST WIN!

  • Comment 53, posted at 27.05.11 07:43:33 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • Even though Deysel has yet to find form and confidence, I think this is the game where his momentum will gather steam – we need him to be the juggernaut that he is… I actually quite like the look of this loose trio – Botes, Deysel, Keegs – I want to see Keegs and Botes feeding off the momentum that Deysel will hopefully get us – and I want to see him standing more in the midfield with Bismarck as the first receiving strike runner, I hope Mostert gets some solid game time and trust that we can be more intelligent and creative when bringing in JPP and Mvovo – I like this wing combo – and I would like to see Oddie being used more at Fullback where he and Ludik can rotate to stay fresh.

    Talking of freshness – we really missed a trick with rotation here this season – a lot more players deserved more game time JLP and Swannie spring to mind here and I look forward to seeing them get some game too…

    I hope Hargreaves’ column springs true and the boys show some grit and determination…

  • Comment 54, posted at 27.05.11 07:55:12 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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