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Confessions of a fair-weather fan


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 20 Jun 2011 at 15:20
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Hi. My name is Rob and I’m a fair-weather Sharks supporter.

Don’t get me wrong. I love the team – I cry when they lose and smile when they win. Hell, ask my wife. The result of the Sharks match can make or break my entire week! I’m a right pain to be anywhere near if the Sharks lose a game – much more so if it’s an important one that they were expected to win. I like trophies and I like success. I don’t, however, feel that the team owes me anything simply as my “reward” for supporting them. I like to think that I’m generally pretty sensitive to the fact that those playing in the black and white are just people at the end of the day and people can make mistakes along the way.

I also devote a not inconsiderable amount of personal time writing an average of 20 articles a week for this site, 75% or more of which are about the Sharks. I guess it’s safe to say that I’m just a little bit nuts about this team – perhaps even obsessed (again, ask my wife and she’ll agree).

I’m not perfect, though. I have doubts. My head drops from time to time. I question decisions. I can be negative. That last one is the biggest sin according to some – being negative about the team. Being a PROPER fan, it seems, means not to question, not to raise concerns, not to point out the failings and weaknesses I see. Who am I to question the coach, because I’m not a coach? Who am I to challenge the Commercial Director, because I’m not one of those either? And above all, who am I to refuse to steadfastly “believe” just because Stefan Terblanche asks me to, somewhat impersonally, via Twitter?

Let’s lay my cards out on the table here. I didn’t believe that the Sharks would beat the Bulls on Saturday, because experience triumphed sentiment and told me that the men from Pretoria would play the big points better, as they’ve tended to do in the past. Note that I’m not saying that I didn’t believe the Sharks could win, because this team has the talent to beat anyone, on any day, in any stadium in the world. My contention leading up to the Loftus match, though, is that somehow, the systems and structures in Durban are contributing to the team being less than the sum of its parts and fair-weather fan or not, I feel it is my duty as somebody who CARES for the Sharks to report honestly and openly on the failings and areas for improvement that I see. Not to say I’m always right, but if I’ve learned anything over the last three years, it’s that I’m not always wrong either.

In this case, I was wrong and never have I been more pleased to be wrong about something. Don’t get me wrong – I’m very, very pleased that the Sharks pulled together to deliver a compelling team performance against the Bulls. It is my most fervent hope that another similar performance will follow on Saturday against the Crusaders, because I do believe, with all my heart, than we can beat them, because we have the players to do so. I urge you all to get behind the team and support with everything that you’ve got. because that’s what I’ll be doing, just as I always do (even though it may not always seem that way).

The real challenge, as war1 pointed out yesterday, is for the Sharks to build on what happened at Loftus, rather than let it be an isolated high point in an otherwise lacklustre campaign. This win was hugely significant at the point in time when it occurred, but only the Sharks – the players, coaches, support staff and management – can give it a more lasting significance. Let’s hope they can do that, in the process putting this fair-weather fan back in his box for good.


139 Comments

  • Strong opinions will evoke strong criticism. It’s not about being right, or wrong, it’s about raising a point for people to debate. If you achieve that, it doesn’t matter what you are called.

  • Comment 1, posted at 20.06.11 15:24:44 by Morné Reply
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  • Nice one Rob! Let’s hope they do build on their performance!

  • Comment 2, posted at 20.06.11 15:26:42 by vanmartin Reply
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  • My thoughts exactly Rob. I confess 😳

  • Comment 3, posted at 20.06.11 15:29:52 by Ossa Reply

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  • All good points. The difference for me is that you (sharksworld) isn’t a fan anymore. You as Rob yes, but you as sharkswolrd no. When you speak on behalf of sharksworld that is when you have to stay professional and not let your emotions get in the way.

  • Comment 4, posted at 20.06.11 15:31:47 by go_4 Reply

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  • I agree Rob…..questioning and doubting the team doesn’t mean you are not a passionate supporter!

    You can ask my wife, 4 year old daughter, 2 dogs, 2 goldfish, 1 hamster and the whole bloody neighborhood about my passion on Saturday between 5 and 7 because they all sure as hell heard my shouting.

    Did I think they would win…no but hell I’m glad they did!

  • Comment 5, posted at 20.06.11 15:35:03 by Pokkel Reply
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  • STORMERS ❗

  • Comment 6, posted at 20.06.11 15:36:25 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • Can’t critisize the coach coz you’re not a coach?
    I’ve always maintained that, I may not be able to lay an egg (coz I’m not a chicken), but I can sure as hell tell you when that egg is rotten!

  • Comment 7, posted at 20.06.11 15:37:03 by Crock Reply

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  • Even the best break down sometimes Rob, last week is behind us and lets all cheer for a Stormers vs Sharks final shall we.

  • Comment 8, posted at 20.06.11 15:37:55 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • I agree 100 percent . I still think ther verdict is out ,one big performance in a grudge match doesnt patch up what has been a long season of “should have won” games . All it highlighted was that there has been a definate lack of intensity and commitment when they played .

    Truth be told we should have played like that when we played the Crusaders ,so much was made about how we finished strong in that game ,so much was made about the spectacle of running rugby pff
    We should have risen better to the occasion and had they we would be smiling right now ,knowing we can give the saders away from home.

    Glad we had the bulls game and it was awesome and im sure spirits are high ,just hope we can get up there again this weekend . If we play like we did against the Bulls we can beat any side.

  • Comment 9, posted at 20.06.11 15:38:17 by Talent Reply
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  • @Crock (Comment 7) : I need to remember that one.

  • Comment 10, posted at 20.06.11 15:38:18 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @go_4 (Comment 4) : I find that a very interesting concept… what, then, do you consider this abstract “sharksworld” beast to be, if not a collection of opinions from myself and the others who write here?

    Genuine question… not attacking your point, but simply trying to understand.

    When i post something as “sharksworld”… what am I actually representing, if not my own thoughts and opinions?

  • Comment 11, posted at 20.06.11 15:38:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • Also, if we aren’t allowed to criticise coaches and selections etc what the hell are we supposed to talk about around a braai?

  • Comment 12, posted at 20.06.11 15:40:04 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 12) :

    Exactly….what the hell would we talk about in this forum if we just all ‘believed’ blindly.

  • Comment 13, posted at 20.06.11 15:43:17 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 12) : I totally agree. but as jou know there is a saying… ‘poef praat is duiwels raad” 😛

  • Comment 14, posted at 20.06.11 15:45:06 by Uli Reply
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  • Personally I think we won more @ Loftus than just the game.
    I think the team got together for the first time this season and are more committed than ever before, I know of another team that had o beat the sharks to get the believe they needed to go on and win the Super 14, and the Sharks are on that same level now that they managed to get over that exact same hurdle.
    Go Boyz make us all proud. 🙂

  • Comment 15, posted at 20.06.11 15:47:16 by Uli Reply
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  • Agree 100% Rob.

    I just can`t be objective when it comes to the Sharks.
    They`re either the best in the world or they ruin my life, there`s no middle ground.

    Like all addictions, it`s a health risk!

  • Comment 16, posted at 20.06.11 15:51:59 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : maybe you should start a new profile for “negative” rob? then no one will know its you? 😐 okey, i`m just trying to help…

  • Comment 17, posted at 20.06.11 15:54:35 by VanWilder Reply

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  • Guys a thought on the team sheet this weekend ;John Smit starts @ 2 and Alberts @ 8 or atleast what I would do.

    They messed us up last time @ set piece and Smit is consistant . Our line outs have been in shambles and we cant have that against the crusaders in a crunch match.Kanko ,Bismarc and Jacobs on in the last quarter for a strong finish when things are loose.

    Other wise nothing else should change.

  • Comment 18, posted at 20.06.11 15:55:01 by Talent Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 17) : ha ha… I did consider that 🙂

  • Comment 19, posted at 20.06.11 15:55:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • Good one Rob. All I know is, is that I believed that if we can get into the play-offs then anything is possible. But one thing is for certain, its going to be one hell of a ride.

  • Comment 20, posted at 20.06.11 15:55:47 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • Rob, awesome article. One of your best IMO.

    I share those sentiments; love the Sharks, but I’m not blind or stupid (well, not VERY stupid). I call it as I see it, but that doesn’t mean that I always like what I see.

    @Crock (Comment 7) :
    Beautiful!

    @go_4 (Comment 4) : But at which point is he unobjective? When he is optimistic or pessimistic?

    I ask because some fans believe SW is too pro-Sharks, while others claim its too critical of the Sharks.

    Maybe the discrepancy is because it ALL boils down to opinion?

  • Comment 21, posted at 20.06.11 15:57:04 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Great read Rob, I’m the same kinda supporter, just not on your level of obssession 😉 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 22, posted at 20.06.11 15:59:49 by molly Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : writing your team down before a massive game like this weekend, i`m sure is not negative. ill be the first to admit that if had to put money on the game, i would have gone with bulls by plenty, and i`m sure youre allowed to say it.

  • Comment 23, posted at 20.06.11 16:01:12 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 23) : maybe I’m a little oversensitive, but some of the tweets coming out from the Sharks team after the game had a slight undercurrent of saying “up yours” to those of their OWN FANS who didn’t chose to blindly believe they would win.

    Did anybody else detect that, or am I being oversensitive?

  • Comment 24, posted at 20.06.11 16:03:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) :

    I didn’t see it but it would piss me off as well.

  • Comment 25, posted at 20.06.11 16:05:04 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 21) : thats so true. in most cases it comes down to the type of person youre dealing with, as different people handles situations diffently. some may see everything in a positive light, even if we lose, he will be positive about our backline play or something. while others will write their team down from the start as some sort of shield to getting hurt if they lose, just to be able to say that i told you so, that backline is useless.

  • Comment 26, posted at 20.06.11 16:05:46 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 25) : Hargreaves: “Thanks to all the sharks fans out there who believed in us! That was for you. ”

    Terblanche: “Believe! For those of you who did,I thank from the bottom of my heart! Fantastic support at Loftus!its not the end,just the beginning!”

    Is there an undercurrent there? Or am I reading too much into it?

  • Comment 27, posted at 20.06.11 16:09:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : i`m not on twitter, so i would not be able to comment, but i would be pissed if true. i mean, its just natural for us as supporter to get frustrated with the state of rugby at the sharks as it was the last few months, not that we want to whine, but that we know we SHOULD play ALOT better… as we did this past weekend.

    if the twitter attack (attack sounds bit harsh) on sharks fans are true, then i`m glad they could find some sort of motivation to get them playing as they should…

  • Comment 28, posted at 20.06.11 16:10:07 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : the hargreaves tweet i think was meant for all sharks fans. i cant see nothing wrong in his, but i can see where youre coming from with Stefs tweet.

  • Comment 29, posted at 20.06.11 16:12:11 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) :

    Probably a bit of an overreaction from them and you.

    IMO BELIEVE had got to be EARNED and coming up to Saturday the Sharks haven’t earned my believe.

    They did earn my believe last year prior to the CC finals though, through their commitment and passion showed on the field.

  • Comment 30, posted at 20.06.11 16:12:31 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 30) :

    and they also earned my believe for this coming weekend.

    There is also a huge difference between could and would like you said in the article.

  • Comment 31, posted at 20.06.11 16:15:05 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Rob I must say I did a bit of a double take when I saw your reaction on twitter after the Lions game.

    Must have rubbed a few players the wrong way.

  • Comment 32, posted at 20.06.11 16:15:57 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • I also think Stef needs a new catchphrase now

  • Comment 33, posted at 20.06.11 16:16:53 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : Nope. I think you are right Rob. I guess the guys felt like a significant portion of the fans weren’t firmly behind them and didn’t believe that they would win. I guess it irked them a bit.

    I can totally understand Stefan’s situation as he has been getting a HELL of a lot of flak..some of it justified but a lot not. A lot of the blame has been apportioned to him when the team hasn’t been functioning, just as John Smit has also copped it. His performance on Saturday was excellent and he deserves the praise now.

  • Comment 34, posted at 20.06.11 16:19:30 by Villie Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 32) : which one was that?

  • Comment 35, posted at 20.06.11 16:20:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 34) : I buy that, but I don’t think you should ever take motivations from “proving your own fans wrong”…. Stefan seems to like his laager mentality just a little bit much for my liking. Seems he can only really motivate the troops by pointing out that their backs are to the wall and everyone’s written them off. It’s a negative form of motivation, if you ask me…

    (I could, once again, be reading way too much into this)

  • Comment 36, posted at 20.06.11 16:25:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 32) : oh wait – the one where I told people they were dreaming if they thought we would win at Loftus? He he, ja… fair enough.

    It’s not like any of the players on Twitter follow us anyway.

  • Comment 37, posted at 20.06.11 16:26:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : just thought about this… if it WAS that tweet that gave the Sharks the motivation they needed to beat the Bulls, then surely I can claim credit for the victory?

    I’m actually a hero! 🙂

  • Comment 38, posted at 20.06.11 16:27:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : why you still chatting around here? go, off to twitter with you. Go motivate our team… 😈

  • Comment 39, posted at 20.06.11 16:29:41 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 39) : ha ha 🙂

  • Comment 40, posted at 20.06.11 16:35:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • I read the headline and thought Trytime was back. 😉

  • Comment 41, posted at 20.06.11 16:40:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 1) : Sheez that’s just a polite way of saying. “Lob the handgrenade into the conversation and stand back to see what happens” 😛

  • Comment 42, posted at 20.06.11 16:42:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • As far as fan sites go (and I visit a lot of them – across sporting codes) this has got to be the most balanced and most rational of the lot.

    Rob, you’re not a fair-weather supporter….but you’re also not a robot…or a zombie…you’re a freakin passionate Sharks fan.

    By the way, I really love it when the Sharks prove us wrong…in a good way.
    🙂

  • Comment 43, posted at 20.06.11 16:48:45 by blackshark - the lurker Reply

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  • I think the article is great for discussion. I did think that your anger and overt criticism on Twitter during Lions game was OTT. Just my opinion. And I know that you are amongst the most dedicated Sharks fans in the World… and an ex-Westvillian to boot so you’re alright in my eyes :P.
    However – I have loved the Sharks since day dot and still do despite my 10,000 km separation from Kings Park. I just know that as in most sport, the guys will have shit games where they just don;t get it right. It’s not intentional or for lack of effort, and our anger should not become personal as a result (and I have done it in the past too but realised that I was acting like a plank!).
    I just don;t want Sharks fans like your good self to start coming across like those Stormers “fair-weather fans” we all despise and think to ourselves, ” Thank God we don’t support a team supported by boorish fans like that”. (And I know majority of Strmers fans are not those type of people by the way – my Dad being a constructive, dedicated fan for them since moving to CT 6 years ago).
    The boys need our support – 100% of the time. Especially in a Super rugby season which is so long and arduous. The Stormers can have their top of the table trophy – I want us to have the real one! And good or bad this week against the ‘Saders – I will wave goodbye to the boys tomorrow, and welcome them back just as heartily whenever they return.

  • Comment 44, posted at 20.06.11 16:48:58 by Sharks_UK Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) : I channeled his spirit whilst writing this 🙂

  • Comment 45, posted at 20.06.11 16:50:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) :

    Honestly I have been on the sharksworld.co.za site only a handful of times. So I am not exactly sure what your aim is for the site. I mostly follow rugby news and events on twitter and as you know I also follow sharksworld. From my perception/opinion I thought sharksworld to be more like a keo.co.za site. Therefore my previous comment/opinion. I just read through the about section on sharksworld.co.za and I agree with your comment and your article: “When i post something as “sharksworld”… what am I actually representing, if not my own thoughts and opinions?”
    Keep up the great work

  • Comment 46, posted at 20.06.11 16:53:17 by go_4 Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) :
    @Pokkel (Comment 25) :

    Something like that wouldn’t really piss me off at all. I’d look at it from the point of view that at least the message that we as supporters were pissed at them for their lack of
    performance got through to them. The fact that some of them are sorta pissed at us lets me gloat a little that they react the same way as we do when what we/they expect is not delivered.

    We expect good performances, they expect support.

  • Comment 47, posted at 20.06.11 16:54:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 26) : And some (me) will just resign themselves to the fact that we lost, be really pissed, but know that no matter how loud I shout it isn’t going to change anything.

    And that in itself is frustrating as hell.

  • Comment 48, posted at 20.06.11 16:57:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @go_4 (Comment 46) :

    In that case, welcome to the site and we hope to see you around here more often!!

  • Comment 49, posted at 20.06.11 16:59:18 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Sharks_UK (Comment 44) : ok – I can take that one on the chin… perhaps the reaction after the Lions match was going a little far.

    BTW, I went to Pretoria Boys High, not Westville 🙂

  • Comment 50, posted at 20.06.11 16:59:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 48) : How does that little prayer go?

    Give me the strength to change the things that I can and live with those the that I can’t and the Wisdom to distinguish which is which.

    something like that.

  • Comment 51, posted at 20.06.11 16:59:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Oh and I thought the Tweets by Al and Stefan were innocuous enough. Let’s put it into context: If I had become Sales Director last year on the back of taking my company to be the best in our sector, and then been villified and judged by people outside the organisation for being slightly below forecasted targets in Q3 – I would not take it easily. Especially when there is still another quarter to go before results are due. Were I to then have sales above those forecasted come the end of the year, I think I would be putting a little word in their ear to let them know. It’s what competitive people do – those same competitive people we want to BE THE BEST! They play for themselves and their union, THEN the fans. That’s reality and the way it should be.

  • Comment 52, posted at 20.06.11 17:00:42 by Sharks_UK Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : Maybe because I actually believed we were going to win, I don’t see to much wrong with that.

  • Comment 53, posted at 20.06.11 17:01:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Hahaha! Nothing much in those tweets – ok, maybe a bit of testosterone and adrenaline and beer…

    I actually think most of us were on the fence before this match…we didn’t write them off but we weren’t too optimistic…we feared the worst and hoped for the best…

    We still sat there before the match – proudly wearing our black & white. Is that not the whole point?

    BTW, I picked the Sharks on Superbru… 😆

  • Comment 54, posted at 20.06.11 17:02:44 by blackshark - the lurker Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 50) : Ah sorry – for some reason thought you were Westville. PBH far better school anyway …

  • Comment 55, posted at 20.06.11 17:02:47 by Sharks_UK Reply
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  • @go_4 (Comment 46) : thanks mate… much appreciated.

    We’re amateurs and fans, just doing our best for the team we love.

  • Comment 56, posted at 20.06.11 17:04:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 53) : oooh mate… that was just a little barbed :mrgreen:

  • Comment 57, posted at 20.06.11 17:10:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • Rob, although I admit that you did seem more negative than usual about the team and the chances this past week, I don’t think anyone could say you didn’t believe the Sharks could or even would win. But when it came down to making a rational prediction, you went with your head. Since I think it was clear the Bulls were the favourites going into the match, your “rational” choice was actually quite rational. HOWEVER, that choice did not take away your belief that the Sharks could win, so not sure you ever really “stopped believing”. Just my thought, I think you’re being a little to hard on yourself here. (But do gather some warped delight in seeing your apology, albeit unneeded). 😆 😉

  • Comment 58, posted at 20.06.11 17:19:32 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 58) : thanks… I think! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 59, posted at 20.06.11 17:25:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • rob the twitter thing i think is just saying truelly thank you to those who believed the sharks could win even after so many weak and inconcistant games,maybe your feeling a bit guilty or just angry that it took so darn long.

  • Comment 60, posted at 20.06.11 17:39:41 by juba_fan Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 58) : @robdylan (Comment 59) : I still have Rob as a bit of a jinxer so I do feel somewhat comforted if he is not overly optimistic – seems to be working :mrgreen:

  • Comment 61, posted at 20.06.11 17:42:29 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Sharks_UK (Comment 55) :
    Watch it Sunshine! 😉

  • Comment 62, posted at 20.06.11 17:42:56 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @juba_fan (Comment 60) : maybe you’re right and I’m reading way too much into it.

    And yes, I am angry, because I don’t see why it’s the Stormers resting this week and us having to head to New Zealand. It could so easily have been the other way round if Stefan and the boys had stepped up earlier in the season

  • Comment 63, posted at 20.06.11 17:44:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • Haha KSA…

    Not really. If you give an opinion you had better stand by that, but don’t be scared to give an opinion that will not be popular especially on a site like this where you know you are dealing with one team’s supporters in general.

    I have been extremely critical of the Sharks in recent weeks, strangely, I still stand by each and every point I made, one great win like last weekend does not change that, and in that respect I agree with Rob, (although you are reading too much into it dude), Sharks players’ tweets are a bit childish given the context of it all (we all know they read this site and follow your tweets).

  • Comment 64, posted at 20.06.11 17:46:03 by Morné Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 63) : this is the vice and the beauty of the Sharks – they are incredible team but you never know what they will dish out. Surely you should now after so many years of supporting :mrgreen: but that’s what’s making as true fans – we’re always taken by surprise if they do not perform.

  • Comment 65, posted at 20.06.11 17:46:56 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 57) : Hehehehehe was it obvious 😆 😛

  • Comment 66, posted at 20.06.11 17:47:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 65) : being a Sharks supporter, in other words, is like getting married for a second time.

    A triumph of hope over experience 🙂

  • Comment 67, posted at 20.06.11 17:50:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 64) : perhaps I am overreacting to the tweets, but can you see where I’m coming from?

    I mean, the okes won a hard game and did it by playing beaut rugby, but it’s not like they’ve just won the competition. All they’ve achieved is snuck in 6th when a top 2 or 4 finish was well on the cards earlier in the season, but squandered. Let’s save the self-congratulations for when we have a trophy…

  • Comment 68, posted at 20.06.11 17:51:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 66) : you’re a lot of things, old friend, but subtle is not one of them :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 69, posted at 20.06.11 17:52:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • i agree rob but at the same time i must say i like this starting well then having a mid season tumble and then ending strong a bit more than last years weak start and ending strong,like bulls this season and ending nowhere or starting with a bang and going down like we done so many times before.maybe being too + is my weakness.

  • Comment 70, posted at 20.06.11 17:53:11 by juba_fan Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 68) :

    Absolutely, and I agree with you 100%. The Sharks did make the play-offs and bloody well done to them, but to deny they let themselves down this season would be silly, because they did.

    Yes they can still win it, but it should have been from a much easier position than they are in now.

  • Comment 71, posted at 20.06.11 17:56:47 by Morné Reply
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  • @juba_fan (Comment 70) : that’s probably not a weakness, mate… 🙂

  • Comment 72, posted at 20.06.11 18:01:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 71) : didn’t see any sarky tweets from the Stormers guys… maybe they’ll think some up during the week they have off ahead of their home semi 🙂

  • Comment 73, posted at 20.06.11 18:02:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • morne and rob the sharks have tried it that way just to get robbed of the title at the tank by the bulls and maybe they just tryin a different way .lol

  • Comment 74, posted at 20.06.11 18:02:17 by juba_fan Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 73) :

    Mate you ask me I think the Stormers are kakked scared, remember they have been in 2 finals in one year, and they are possibly heading to another, a fail this time would put serious pressure on a team who last won something 10 years ago…

  • Comment 75, posted at 20.06.11 18:04:28 by Morné Reply
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  • @juba_fan (Comment 74) :

    Mate if the Sharks pull this off, they will write novels and make movies of this season.

    To beat the Bulls, Saders, Reds and possibly Stormers all away from home, in 4 consecutive weeks is the stuff of legends…

  • Comment 76, posted at 20.06.11 18:06:52 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 75) : LOL – fair comment.

  • Comment 77, posted at 20.06.11 18:15:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • i believe.lol
    faith is believing in something you cannot see. excl sat we havent seen anything that suggests we can win this title

  • Comment 78, posted at 20.06.11 18:17:47 by juba_fan Reply

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  • so I BELIEVE

  • Comment 79, posted at 20.06.11 18:18:37 by juba_fan Reply

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  • I remember supporting Natal when predicting a win either made one incredibly naive or a moron. I am sure there were matches where not a single person in the stadium believed Natal could or would win. However, we were all still at the stadium, still supporting our beloved Banana Boys. I just don’t think that believing a team will win is a prerequisite to supporting said team.

  • Comment 80, posted at 20.06.11 18:24:32 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 80) : Which is why I think the tweets sent out by some of the Sharks players were rather immature.

  • Comment 81, posted at 20.06.11 18:25:53 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • as a fan that believed,went for sharks on sb by 12,i see those tweets as a honest thank you.maybe thats just me

  • Comment 82, posted at 20.06.11 18:33:44 by juba_fan Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 51) : There are actually a number of variations on the traditional prayer, intended to adapt it to specific situations. I work in a pretty high stress environment, with some, uh, “interesting” 🙄 characters, so the version I always resort to is: “God grant me the stregnth to change the things I can, the serenity to accept the things I can’t, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those that p*ssed me off…”

  • Comment 83, posted at 20.06.11 18:55:23 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 83) : There ya go!!!!!!!

    Dear Lord please grant me the stregnth to change the things I can, the serenity to accept the things I can’t, and the wisdom to know the difference 🙂

  • Comment 84, posted at 20.06.11 19:12:29 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 69) : 😆 I DO get my point across most of the time though 😆

  • Comment 85, posted at 20.06.11 19:16:33 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 80) :
    Wise words at the end there.

    And a very happy birthday to you; may you always have the wind at your back.

  • Comment 86, posted at 20.06.11 19:20:18 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : Hiyas bro

    Yes the probably is , as they are human and no doubt read on the various blogs

    And i agree with what you say , we can only try to give articles as we think

    what we must be careful of is not only about what we say , but sometimes how we say it, ( not referring to you here)but general bloggers

    sometimes bloggers also seem to think they know everything and say things harshly ,and many things are not just said in sharksworld of keo or rugby talk

    Take for an example a few so called sharks fans in rugby365 where some of the sharks personel are basically sworn , and trashed ,

    So just maybe there are undertones , just_rugby on tweeter is a good example of someone who blasts a player like bosman etc , they all read twitter,

    I have always thought that yes i say my say, but i must never forget i am a supporter first and formost, not the coach , not a player , not a selector

  • Comment 87, posted at 20.06.11 19:21:51 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Anyone have the game on dvd ?

  • Comment 88, posted at 20.06.11 19:25:30 by bergshark Reply

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  • Anyone have the game on dvd?

  • Comment 89, posted at 20.06.11 19:26:09 by bergshark Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 87) :

    Say what you want to say, but never resort to personal attacks, or petty insults.

  • Comment 90, posted at 20.06.11 19:27:34 by Morné Reply
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  • actually i never tweeted on SW twitter 🙄

  • Comment 91, posted at 20.06.11 19:27:40 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 90) : exactly morne

  • Comment 92, posted at 20.06.11 19:28:21 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 90) : Fact though is MOrne , the boys read all this kinda stuff ,and they no doubt want support…

  • Comment 93, posted at 20.06.11 19:29:38 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • …Anyone have the game on dvd..?anyone..?

  • Comment 94, posted at 20.06.11 19:30:13 by bergshark Reply

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  • The Sharks read this..?? @ the sharks: anyone have the game on dvd?

  • Comment 95, posted at 20.06.11 19:32:32 by bergshark Reply

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  • the other side of the coin is that just maybe the negative talk did get to them and it fired them up more :mrgreen:

  • Comment 96, posted at 20.06.11 19:32:36 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 90) : Very important that bit, unfortunately that is very seldom adhered to. 🙁

  • Comment 97, posted at 20.06.11 19:33:56 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @sharks_lover: do you know of anyone who has the game on dvd?

  • Comment 98, posted at 20.06.11 19:34:04 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 95) : On PVR but 500miles away from you and still not sure how to get it from PVR to DVD.

    I do have the 1995 and 2007 RWC finals. 😉

  • Comment 99, posted at 20.06.11 19:35:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 93) :

    Mate if they ever doubt that you guys, and thousands of other Sharks supporters ‘support’ them then they need to grow a pair of balls.

    Fans are emotional, simple as that, what players need to realise is that they are simply current custodians of a brand, name, jersey and emblem that has been supported for decades – it is a privilege, not a right, and you guys will continue to support that long after they’re gone (and so will they probably).

    Your support, and criticism is because of your pride in that brand, not always the player…

  • Comment 100, posted at 20.06.11 19:36:54 by Morné Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 98) : no sorry mate

  • Comment 101, posted at 20.06.11 19:44:34 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 100) : MOrne i agree 100% , it still comes down to how we say things though

    @KSA Shark © (Comment 97) : exactly boet

  • Comment 102, posted at 20.06.11 19:46:51 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @KSA SHARK: 500 miles?or 5000 miles?

  • Comment 103, posted at 20.06.11 19:47:31 by bergshark Reply

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  • @KSA SHARK:’95 and ’07 rwc finals ..!

  • Comment 104, posted at 20.06.11 19:49:02 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 104) : YIP!! 😎

  • Comment 105, posted at 20.06.11 19:49:44 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 102) :

    Ja well that comes down to individuals, to be honest, you lot have a hell of a lot of patience with your team. Things get emotional, but seldom crosses the line to insults.

  • Comment 106, posted at 20.06.11 19:51:31 by Morné Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 103) : 5000.

    I am in Saudi Arabia.

    To be Honest it is only 4200 Miles.

  • Comment 107, posted at 20.06.11 19:52:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 106) : lol boet all teams have their ups and downs , so always need patience :mrgreen: 😆

    @KSA Shark © (Comment 107) : 😆

  • Comment 108, posted at 20.06.11 19:55:08 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 83) : I …yey ahhh erggg hmmmm… would like to discuss with you the part ” and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those that p*ssed me off…”… psst just don’t tell anyone 😀

  • Comment 109, posted at 20.06.11 19:58:40 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Morne:patients as in mental patients ’cause you have to be crazy to support the sharks?or they will drive you crazy?.. Lol just kidding team,just kidding..:-)

  • Comment 110, posted at 20.06.11 20:00:51 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 110) : 😆 bergdwerg 😆

  • Comment 111, posted at 20.06.11 20:02:42 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 110) :

    Haha, the power to edit stupid posts!

    But that too! 😉

  • Comment 112, posted at 20.06.11 20:03:49 by Morné Reply
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  • 🙂

  • Comment 113, posted at 20.06.11 20:07:19 by bergshark Reply

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  • Guys go watch espn 231 n see the banana boys vs northern transvaal..so old school

  • Comment 114, posted at 20.06.11 20:15:37 by shaniboi Reply

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  • I agree entirely with this article. I was extremely surprised with the result although I knew the Sharks had it in them. After all, there is nothing in theory which should separate the Bulls and Sharks.

    I just hope the result won’t be treated as the Sharks’ final, their peak… This will be their biggest challenge. Hopefully they will treat it as a kick start to their real potential, dig deep and show us all what they are capable of, rather than sitting back and now thinking their season has been a success (which it hasn’t).

  • Comment 115, posted at 20.06.11 20:22:27 by siorc Reply

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  • @siorc: true words..

  • Comment 116, posted at 20.06.11 20:26:18 by bergshark Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 109) : That’s the beauty of living in the countryside; so many open spaces to dispose of life’s little problems in… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 117, posted at 20.06.11 20:53:21 by Culling Song Reply
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  • I’ve just read through the posts. If it took a few negative comments to make the Sharks FINALLY play some real ballsy rugby, then… I reckon the Crusaders are gonna smash ’em this weekend, the Sharks have no chance at all *wink wink*.

    Seriously, give me something to be positive about and I will crow till the cows come home. But if you carry on dishing up sub standard, 40 minute performances, with no sign of improvement or real commitment, then I will criticise you until things are put right.

    Well done on the win against the Bulls, it was a MASSIVE improvement. But know that your fans are expecting you to lift your game even more now, we now know what you are really capable of and expect big things of the Sharks. All the best.

  • Comment 118, posted at 20.06.11 21:06:48 by siorc Reply

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  • Win or lose you hope for another win next time round

  • Comment 119, posted at 21.06.11 05:18:44 by overseas shark Reply

     
  • When are the guys flying over to NZ?

  • Comment 120, posted at 21.06.11 07:57:53 by Crock Reply

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  • @Crock (Comment 120) : I think its today.

  • Comment 121, posted at 21.06.11 08:02:56 by Ben Reply
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  • The Sharks made money off the Crusaders in London, now they must make the Crusaders pay again. 😆

  • Comment 122, posted at 21.06.11 08:26:24 by waje Reply

     
  • @robdylan (Comment 63) : Rob, with 2 rounds to go the Sharks still had a chance to sneak into second spot. At the time you wrote an article telling us to throw our weight behind the Stormers, not the Sharks, as they had no hope when in reality we still had a chance of ending second.

  • Comment 123, posted at 21.06.11 08:37:28 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : They don’t 😯

  • Comment 124, posted at 21.06.11 08:40:54 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 90) : Thats it really and unfortunately there have been many personal insults lately.

  • Comment 125, posted at 21.06.11 08:59:04 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 123) : Salmo, I stand by that call. The Sharks needed to beat one of (but preferably both) the Stormers and the Bulls at Kings Park for a conference top spot to be a reality. By the time of that Stormers-Bulls match, we were hoping for a Stormers loss in both of their final matches, something that I didn’t consider realistic. Turns out I was right.

  • Comment 126, posted at 21.06.11 09:06:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 126) : The chances were always going to be that you would be right but you promoted an oppositions team above your own when there was still some chance for your own team succeeding.

  • Comment 127, posted at 21.06.11 09:27:50 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 127) : actually, I promoted an opposition team above another opposition team because I felt that with the Bulls out of the running, the Sharks would stand the best possible chance of proceeding to the knock-outs.

  • Comment 128, posted at 21.06.11 09:48:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 128) : But you said earlier that you wanted to be at home preparing for a semi, for that to have happened then we should not have backed the Stormers 2 weeks ago. 😈

  • Comment 129, posted at 21.06.11 10:12:21 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 129) : umm, no… as it turns out, it made no difference anyway because the Stormers lost against the Bulls, yet still went on to finish second.

    The issue was always about the Cheetahs’ ability to beat the Stormers.

    If we wanted to keep the Stormers out of home semi-final contention, we needed to beat them when we had the chance. Those points would have counted double.

    You’re just messing with me now, right? I mean, I KNOW you understand my point…

  • Comment 130, posted at 21.06.11 10:23:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • Of course I understand your point but….

  • Comment 131, posted at 21.06.11 10:39:39 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 131) : but you like arguing with me 🙂

  • Comment 132, posted at 21.06.11 10:52:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 132) : No sh*t?? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 133, posted at 21.06.11 10:56:01 by Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 132) : @Ice (Comment 133) : Never, 😆

  • Comment 134, posted at 21.06.11 10:58:06 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 132) : well you started it, you FWF :mrgreen:

  • Comment 135, posted at 21.06.11 11:08:07 by franshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 132) : what happend to the changed mobile site… Did it not work?

  • Comment 136, posted at 21.06.11 11:09:13 by franshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 136) : too many people complained that it was chowing their bandwidth.

    I’ll have another look at it some other time.

  • Comment 137, posted at 21.06.11 11:24:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 137) : tell them to get BB’s 🙂

  • Comment 138, posted at 21.06.11 11:40:51 by franshark Reply
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  • @[email protected]: I also quite liked the new site

  • Comment 139, posted at 21.06.11 16:18:23 by bergshark Reply

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