Richard Ferguson

Baby-Boks to play Ireland


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 21 Jun 2011 at 10:30
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Coach Dawie Theron has named his team to face Ireland on Wednesday night at the IRB Junior World Championship, with nine changes made to the team that lost to England in the last pool match on Saturday night.

Siya Kolisi has been released to the Stormers Super Rugby Squad and lock Ruan Venter has been injured and will return to South Africa. Carl Wegner, who has replaced Venter in the squad, comes straight onto the bench as cover for the lock pairing in Etzebeth and Cook.

In the front row, the big John Roy Jenkinson falls to the bench and is replaced by Sharks player Nic Schonert. Another Shark in Francois Kleinhans comes into the starting line up at flank.

In the backline we see a shuffle with Jaco Taute being moved to outside centre and Ulrich Beyers taking over from him at fullback. Johan Goosen will continue in the flyhalf role.

South Africa U20 – Ulrich Beyers, Tshotsho Mbovane, Jaco Taute, Francois Venter, Wandile Mjekevu, Johan Goosen, Pieter Rademan, Arno Botha (captain), Cornell du Preez, Francois Kleinhans, Eben Etzebeth, Jean Cook, Nic Schonert, Michael van Vuuren, Stephan Kotze.

Reserves: Bongi Mbonambi, John Roy Jenkinson, Carl Wegner, Nizaam Carr, Lohan Jacobs, John Welthagen, Paul Jordaan.


37 Comments

  • Theron got his selections completely wrong for the England game. How the heck he played Skosan ahead of Mbovane…only he knows!! 😯

  • Comment 1, posted at 21.06.11 10:47:10 by Villie Reply
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  • Selections aside, this team doesn’t play like it has been coached at all.

  • Comment 2, posted at 21.06.11 11:00:49 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Another player that has really impressed is Ulrich Beyers.

  • Comment 3, posted at 21.06.11 11:06:18 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Yip…I have watched all of the games and been very disappointed with the showings. Standouts for me have been Goosen, Etsebeth and the captain, Botha. Kolisi and Carr also look very promising.

  • Comment 4, posted at 21.06.11 11:07:49 by Villie Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 3) : Yes, he looked decent in the first 2 games and what does Theron do? Drop him for Taute for the important game against England.

    Taute is never going to live down that missed tackle on Christian Wade that effectively decided the game.

  • Comment 5, posted at 21.06.11 11:08:56 by Villie Reply
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  • The team against England looked like it was a scratch team assembled the day before. Handling and errors were horrendous. They should have easily beaten the England squad. 😯

  • Comment 6, posted at 21.06.11 11:10:39 by Caratacus Reply

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  • This is the backline dawie theron should have picked…skosan is a blue bull :mrgreen: sorry guys he was kak :mrgreen: taute is an outside centre NOT a full back…..francois venter was well marked and we had no plan ‘b’…both scruhalves are not that impressive….hehehehe paul jordaan will probably replace venter again let’s hope he DOES catch the ball this time :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 21.06.11 11:19:03 by Muzi Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 2) : Agreed! :– they have been totally unimpressive. Although individually they are good they look as though they have never played together before with handling and turnover errors shocking.
    The Irish winger – Conway, I think – ran through them last game and no doubt will do the same again. Very disappointed πŸ˜₯

  • Comment 8, posted at 21.06.11 11:45:42 by senior Reply

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  • One of the players to have an off day in the England game was Kolisi. It was very surprising coz he’s normally a very reliable player. I also thought Radaman produced much of the uninspiring play that he offered last season. I have no idea how he managed to hold down a starting berth. Our guys need to make better use of ball possession so that our opponents are the ones that live off scraps.

  • Comment 9, posted at 21.06.11 12:16:19 by beet Reply
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  • Does anyone know if the tournament process has changed from previous years? I can’t believe we’ve been knocked out for losing one game against a flippin tough team.

  • Comment 10, posted at 21.06.11 12:39:46 by molly Reply
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  • On another note, I am very happy to see Mbovane back in the starting lineup, he was flippin good against the Scots.

  • Comment 11, posted at 21.06.11 12:55:41 by molly Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 9) : Even lohan jacobs has not made the step up….i was not impressed with what i saw in bradley moolman i still think lindeque would have been a better option…skosan had a shocker…goosen hmmmm i think he had a good game but i expected more and jordaan with that knock on :mrgreen:

  • Comment 12, posted at 21.06.11 13:14:16 by Muzi Reply

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  • @senior (Comment 8) : I think if we get our school coaching structures sorted out the way New Zealand have, things will change. Most importantly, we need to play our kids in weight groups and not age groups, so that they can learn how to identify space, and use it, from an early age.

    We create blinkered players through our emphasis on size, because boys who are naturally bigger or simply grown earlier than their mates of the same age, don’t need to find space in order to go forward.

    But this backfires later (such as at U20 level) when we meet opponents of equal physical strenghth, but with the skills to play the situation.

  • Comment 13, posted at 21.06.11 13:42:28 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark: good points..”Skills to play the situation”..

  • Comment 14, posted at 21.06.11 14:25:41 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Muzi (Comment 12) : Ya Muzi, thinking back now, the whole selection process was bizarre. I recall Venter, Moolman and Skosan being sent packing at one stage. Then after a game against a WP invitation XV went horribly wrong, Theron made wholesale changes including dumping Williams and Lindeque who I thought were a far more effective centre pairing than the Bulls players last year.
    I think the fact that Lohan Jacobs was a late call up suggests something about his form this year. Last year he would have walked into the team.
    I’m hoping the lessons that weren’t learnt last year, would have now been taken in. For one there needs to be a better identification process or structure in place so that form players are picked for the JWC.

  • Comment 15, posted at 21.06.11 20:29:08 by beet Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 13) : There are some like myself who love schoolboy rugby just the way it is and don’t want these traditions to change one bit.

    However having witnessed what England were able to achieve with their u18s, I believe there is merit to the argument for u18 restructuring, not necessarily along weight category lines but I definitely think in terms of quality control. If we were to ID elite players, pull them out of the 60-80 strong schools system, provide them with even more specialised training and have them compete against each other in teams that would be very strong, this would see good players develop into even better players with better skills at a faster rate simple because of the higher level of competition. I’m pretty sure this is how England have gone about things.

    But I think we also need a change in mindset. A player like Francois Venter was a brilliant visionary schoolboy player but now he’s being developed into a one-dimensional brain dead thing with absolutely no lateral vision whatsoever. Eventually he’ll only be suited to one style of play.

  • Comment 16, posted at 21.06.11 20:45:17 by beet Reply
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  • Dealing with pressure was the difference between the SA and Eng u18 sides. They put huge pressure on us with their defense and we struggled to hold onto the ball etc. When they put attacking pressure on us we missed tackles etc. We also applied pressure to the English on defense but they managed to hang onto the ball and go through phases. And when we put the pressure on attack, and we did attack well at times, the english scrambled well and made the telling tackles. Its simple as that!

  • Comment 17, posted at 22.06.11 07:55:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Would it have made much of difference had Steve Kitshoff and Frans Malherbe both from the Stormers been selected for this tournament? Out of interest were there any other U20s playing in the Super 15 who could have been selected?

    I think we could have been undercooked going into this tournament. There is an Six Nation U20 tournament at the beginning of the year which identifies those players for the JWC while our guys if selected are messing about in the Vodacom Cup or Club Champs and don’t get a proper chance to gel with one another.

  • Comment 18, posted at 22.06.11 11:19:50 by slammerboy Reply
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  • @slammerboy (Comment 18) :

    So you are suggesting that we play an U20 tri Nations every year along with the main Tri Nations..

    Sounds like a good idea that..

  • Comment 19, posted at 22.06.11 11:30:40 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 19) : I also like the idea of an u20 Tri-nations. The games could be the curtain raisers!

  • Comment 20, posted at 22.06.11 11:32:54 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 20) :

    I thought about the same thing.. You would get such a nice crowd for the youngsters to play in front of..

    Its just too bad that the Tri Nations generally happens after the IRB Junior Champs, so it will be too little too late to help us out there..

  • Comment 21, posted at 22.06.11 11:35:55 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • I think a Tri Nations U20s tournament is a good start but these guys need to be playing with each before the JWC. The Six Nations teams also play an U18 competition so again as soon as they leave school or even while they’re at school they’re exposed to international rugby. I know our SA U18/SA Schools team play a few games after Craven Week but getting involved in an international competition would also be a positive move.

  • Comment 22, posted at 22.06.11 11:45:43 by slammerboy Reply
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  • What time is kickoff guys? SA time.

  • Comment 23, posted at 22.06.11 11:59:35 by Ben Reply
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  • It seems this game will not be shown on TV…

  • Comment 24, posted at 22.06.11 12:05:27 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 24) : Wtf? That sucks.

  • Comment 25, posted at 22.06.11 12:12:28 by Ben Reply
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  • It seems the games that will be shown on TV are the two semi finals…

  • Comment 26, posted at 22.06.11 12:14:53 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 26) : Huh? So what is this game?

  • Comment 27, posted at 22.06.11 12:16:41 by Ben Reply
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  • We are playing in the 5th place semi finals..

    Should we win, we will play either Wales or Fiji for fifth place..

    Semi final contenders are:

    England, New Zealand, France and Australia

  • Comment 28, posted at 22.06.11 12:20:08 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • And our game kikcs off at 20h10, not shown on SuperSport as far as their website is concerned..

  • Comment 29, posted at 22.06.11 12:21:39 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 28) : Okay I see. Thanks. SS should have covered this game anyway.

  • Comment 30, posted at 22.06.11 12:22:08 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 30) :

    They are more concerned with the semi finals I suppose..

    We would have been bleak had we played in the semi finals and they were showing the 5th place semi finals instead..

  • Comment 31, posted at 22.06.11 12:23:40 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 29) : Yup, checked on their website as well. Only showing the semis. Let’s hope they made a mistake on the website.

    Who are playing who in the semis?

  • Comment 32, posted at 22.06.11 12:23:50 by Ben Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 31) : Semis can still be shown on SS1, they have 4 other channels to cover our game?

  • Comment 33, posted at 22.06.11 12:25:14 by Ben Reply
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  • England vs France at 18h00

    New Zealand vs Australia at 20h10

  • Comment 34, posted at 22.06.11 12:25:39 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • SS7 doesn’t have any live Sport between 8 and 10. They could have showed it there…

  • Comment 35, posted at 22.06.11 12:29:49 by Ben Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 34) : Thanks, so it will be North vs South in the final.

  • Comment 36, posted at 22.06.11 12:31:10 by Ben Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 24) : Whaaaaat?

  • Comment 37, posted at 22.06.11 13:15:10 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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