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Looking at the Sharks’ Currie Cup squad


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 5 Jul 2011 at 11:56
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The question on everybody’s lips at the moment seems to be something along the lines of “where is the Sharks Currie Cup squad”. Fact is, that we probably know what it looks like already… but let’s take a closer look.

In terms of player losses after Super Rugby, the good news is that very few of the side have opted to leave outright. We know that Steven Sykes will probably go to Ireland, while John Smit looks very likely to join Saracens as well. Riaan Swanepoel has left to join Clermont, as we know. Other than those three, we have a little uncertainty around the future of Gerhard Mostert (who I am confident will not leave) and that’s pretty much it. The major obstacle is, of course, Bok call-ups, with no fewer than 13 of the Sharks Super Rugby squad included in the Bok 49-man squad.

Nobody is yet sure how many of those players will be released for Currie Cup duty, but the odds are good that most of them will be unavailable for the duration of the Tri Nations. Once the final World Cup squad has been picked, the left-over 20 or so players will probably be allowed back into the Currie Cup.

Looking at those names, it is quite likely that Beast Mtawarira, John Smit, both du Plessis brothers, Willem Alberts, Pat Lambie, JP Pietersen and possibly also Adi Jacobs and Lwazi Mvovo will make the World Cup squad. That leaves Alistair Hargreaves, Ryan Kankowski, Charl McLeod and Odwa Ndungane as the only Boks who are likely to return to the Sharks squad at some stage during the Currie Cup.

In terms of player gains, the only one we know about is Marius Joubert, who should already be training with the side.

Let’s then have a look at the anticipated squad and options available to the coaches. The obvious conclusion is that fringe players from the Vodacom Cup and under 21 ranks will come into the reckoning quite strongly.

Front row: In the definites column, we have Eugene van Staden, Wiehahn Herbst, Craig Burden and Kyle Cooper. Players that might feature in addition to the above are Dale Chadwick, Julian Redelinghuys, Sabelo Nhlapo and possibly even Nic Schonert. Monde Hadebe should be the third-in-line at hooker.

Locks: Definites are Ross Skeate, Alistair Hargreaves when he returns, Gerhard Mostert and Anton Bresler. Add Jandre Marais to the maybe column, with his brother Peet the next in the pecking order too.

Loose forwards: Keegan Daniel, Jean Deysel, Jacques Botes and Kankowski (once released) will form the backbone here. Marcell Coetzee will be next in line, with Daniel Adongo, Tera Mtembu and Francoi Kleinhans listed in the maybe column.

Halfbacks: Ross Cronje, Fred Michalak, Conrad Hoffmann and Charl McLeod are the scrumhalf options, with the latter two currently unavailable. Don’t be too surprised to see Cobus Reinach called up from the under 21s as cover. Flyhalf options are Michalak, Jacques-Louis Potgieter, Guy Cronje and Meyer Bosman, with Fred Zeilinga and Willie du Plessis the youngsters who might need to step up.

Centres: The definites here are Bosman, Marius Joubert and Stefan Terblanhce, while Potgieter can also play at 12. There is room for the likes of Heimar Williams, Piet Lindeque and maybe even Paul Jordaan to make a big step up if required.

Outside backs: It is here that there are lots of spaces up for grabs, with all of the Sharks wingers expected out, at least in the initial rounds. Louis Ludik will have a huge role to play here as the cornerstone of a young back three. Don’t expect the Sharks to look past Mark Richards, Sbura Sithole, Rosco Speckman and maybe even Gouws Prinsloo when it comes to plugging the holes.


101 Comments

  • I don’t know 80% of the names mentioned here! 🙂

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.07.11 12:03:10 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • I think Adi Jacobs is a dead certain for the World Cup, and I wouldn’t be so sure of Willem Alberts making it. Kanko may yet pipe Alberts as cover for Spies. The chances the Mvovo is going to make the World Cup squad is slim unfortunately. He is one for the future.

    The wing positions are where we really are going to have to dig deep.

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.07.11 12:03:55 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 1) : Ja same. A lot of u21s over there!

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.07.11 12:04:33 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • That looks a more than decent squad.

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.07.11 12:04:57 by war1 Reply
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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 1) : we kind of make it our business to know these guys 🙂

    Anyone in particular you want more info about?

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.07.11 12:07:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 1) : @robdylan (Comment 5) :

    Morne’s taking the piss I reckon…I bet he knows at LEAST 80% of the names mentioned! 🙄

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.07.11 12:15:02 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : Wouldn’t mind knowing who Fred Zeilinga and Heimar Williams are? Never ever heard the names before!

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.07.11 12:15:22 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • Do we know what Oupa’s plans for next year are yet and any speculation on vice-captain?

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.07.11 12:21:40 by vanmartin Reply
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  • I’d like to see Plum give someone other than Oupa a chance at captaincy. Maybe Hargreaves when (or if) he gets back from the Boks. Time to let the future of Sharks rugby get a shot at the important jobs.

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.07.11 12:27:59 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • Haha…

    Look I think you are missing some experience in the front 3, depth at lock and experience in the back three.

    Otherwise a decent squad.

    Remember, all other teams suffers the same fate apart from the Cheetahs, they will be the team to beat this year I reckon.

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.07.11 12:28:02 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 9) :

    Yes, you need to groom your captain for next year now – and give him the CC to do it under.

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.07.11 12:28:37 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 10) : I don’t know why everyone thinks the Cheetahs aren’t affected by the Boks. They have lost three loose forwards to the Boks and a handful of players to the Griquas. Many underestimate the loss of Sarel Pretorius to the Griquas. Cheetahs will have problems as well. Maybe not as bad as the big 3 unions (Sharks, Stormers and Bulls) but it could still be a factor and a problem they will have to deal with.

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.07.11 12:31:22 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 10) : Cheetahs? I don’t see it… because I see them being pretty weak in the front row, loose forward and particularly at scrumhalf.

    Virtually all of the big names that lead to a successful Super Rugby season for the Cheetahs are either with the Boks or with Griquas.

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.07.11 12:31:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 7) : Heimar is an inside centre that came to the Academy last year after being in the Affies first XV in 2009. He was very unlucky to miss out on SA Schools selection, but played for the SA Academy side.

    He was one of the stars in the Sharks under 19 side last year and also won the top performer of the year award at the Academy last year. A very good player and one to watch for the future.

    Fred Z is a phenomenal schoolboy talent who was still at Glenwood last year, but has played Craven Week for the Sharks 2 years running and even got a few under 19 caps last year.

    He was a surprise member of the Vodacom Cup squad this year despite still being only 19. Got a BIG boot and some lovely skills… this kid could go all the way.

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.07.11 12:34:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) : My point exactly! 3 of their best loosies and promising loosehead Coenie Oosthuizen are all tied up with the Boks either temporarily or permenantly (for the remainder of the CC). Sarel Pretorius is the most notable loss to the Griquas. Cheetahs have also had the worst of luck with injuries in the Super 15 this year and some of those players could still possibly be out.

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.07.11 12:35:50 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 12) : @robdylan (Comment 13) :

    Coenie, Adriaan and WP will all be available to them in the front row – all experienced.

    Ashley, Floors, Raubenheimer will front up in the loosies, again all capable and very experienced.

    Tewis might not be Sarel but he is also very experienced.

    Add the Ebersohn twins, Andries in the midfield Benjamin and Daniller in the back three and you have a pretty experienced team but more importantly, they keep a lot of momentum and continuity.

    Cheetahs are going to be super tough imo.

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.07.11 12:36:33 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : Good to see some centers finally coming through then! I just hope that they are given a shot and retained at the Sharks in the years to come.

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.07.11 12:36:52 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 15) :

    Coenie won’t even make the second string 3N squad.

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.07.11 12:37:47 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • Neither Ashley Johnson – but I suppose we can wait until Saturday when the 3N squad is announced – I don’t see it happen though.

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.07.11 12:38:36 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 18) : Coenie “penalty” Oosthuizen :mrgreen:

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.07.11 12:40:24 by rekinek Reply
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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 16) : Isn’t Raubenheimer still with the Griquas?

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.07.11 12:41:12 by Ossa Reply

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  • @Ossa (Comment 21) :

    Almost thought I read he moved – let me check…

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.07.11 12:42:14 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 16) : Adriaan Strauss is also in the prelimanry squad.

    @Morné (Comment 18) : No perhaps not.

    @Morné (Comment 19) : I rate Johnson will be a second stringer 3N squad. On the bench at least. Strauss will also make it to the bench if a complete seoond stringer squad is announced. Of course PDV might want insurance on the bench if things get a little too embarrasing.

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.07.11 12:42:44 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • He is… My mistake, but they also have Pieter Myburgh

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.07.11 12:45:27 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 23) :

    There are at least 3 players ahead of each of those guys in the pecking order, I don’t see them being selected for actual tests.

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.07.11 12:46:34 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • well – they will definitely lose Strauss and I think Johnson is in with a big shot of touring for 3N too… reckon Coenie probably won’t make it.

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.07.11 12:47:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 25) : Ok hang on imma check this out more closely.

  • Comment 27, posted at 05.07.11 12:47:29 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • let’s not forget Riaan Viljoen is also back with Griquas

  • Comment 28, posted at 05.07.11 12:47:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) :

    I reckon Peter will fall back on Kanko for the 3N.

    Chili at hooker with Bismarck or John as captain touring along as insurance.

    Viljoen is back yes, but they also have this very talented Goosen kid who will play with Daniller at 15 – no probs there I imagine.

  • Comment 29, posted at 05.07.11 12:51:10 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • Any news on when Hoffman will be fit?

  • Comment 30, posted at 05.07.11 12:54:38 by MerckZ Reply

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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 29) : Johan Goosen? The BAby Bok? At 15?

    could work well… also look at Pieter Rademan as a real option at 9, I think.

  • Comment 31, posted at 05.07.11 12:54:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) : Based on form of some players the Griquas are starting to look like the team to beat. They are definitely a threat.

    @Morné (Comment 25) : Hookers in the squad include Bismark Du Plessis; John Smit; Chiliboy Ralepelle and Adriaan Strauss. Du Plessis and Smit can be considered first choice players. There is a good chance for Strauss to make it.

    In the case of Ashley Johnson there is Ryan Kankowski, Willem Alberts, Pierre Spies, Heinrich Brussow (if fit), Danie Rossouw, Deon Stegmann and possibly Schalk Burger. Juan Smith and Duane Vermuelen are still injured. Maybe Johnson’s chances are a little on the outside but I still think he could do it.

  • Comment 32, posted at 05.07.11 12:55:07 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 32) : Spies and Burger are prob considered “first choice” and danie rossouw is probably seen as a good bench warmer as he is versatile. maybe he will start at lock in the away leg of the 3N. Kanko and Brussow along with either Alberts of Johnson could play in the loose trio.

  • Comment 33, posted at 05.07.11 12:57:22 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @MerckZ (Comment 30) : 10 weeks from the injury… so I’m guessing that means he’ll still have 4 weeks to go… misses out on the first 3-4 CC matches?

  • Comment 34, posted at 05.07.11 12:59:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 31) :

    The very one.

    @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 32) :

    Okay let’s take a worst case scenario for the Cheetahs where they do lose both Johnson and Strauss, it will only be for the away leg of the 3N (two tests, two weeks), following which, the first choice players will get a run in the home leg.

    Those two away tests is in Rounds 2 and 3 of the Currie Cup, so they will be back in Round 4.

    For me continuity and the least disruption to combinations are key, and I reckon the Cheetahs are probably least affected in this regard.

  • Comment 35, posted at 05.07.11 13:02:24 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 32) : I’m very interested to see how the Griquas do without Dawie Theron as coach.

  • Comment 36, posted at 05.07.11 13:05:51 by vanmartin Reply
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  • So no new signings for the Sharks?

    We gonna keep on doing it the hard way with a “has been centre” in Joubert, another centre(Bosman) that can only defend if he plays against a 60 year old and a 60 year old centre in Stef. Not to mention our “caveman” lock(Skeate) that can’t even enforce authority on a std 5 schoolboy!

    Why do they not approach Sadie or Whitehead for that matter. Why spend money on Michelack if you bought JLP?

    Now I will ask the question, Streauli, do you know what you are doing or are we on a road to nowhere?

    I find it really frustrating to see that we are going down the same garden path. Doing the same things with the same players and expecting a different result.

    The Bulls will get Sadie , Watch this space.

  • Comment 37, posted at 05.07.11 13:06:02 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 35) : I still think that the Griquas might just pose a greater threat. Cheetahs are there but we will all just have to wait and see.

    @vanmartin (Comment 36) : I never thought about that! Do you know who has replaced him at all?

    @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 37) : I doubt the Bulls will get Sadie after one of the Bulls coaches commenting on his loyalty to WP.

  • Comment 38, posted at 05.07.11 13:13:24 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 38) :

    They will look to prove a point no doubt especially since the 6-team CC format is now proposed.

  • Comment 39, posted at 05.07.11 13:16:46 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 38) :

    That’s just to butter up the Province and Sadie.
    What is frustrating is that the Sharks are not even interested.
    They just keep on hammering the overseas players that is at the end of their careers.

  • Comment 40, posted at 05.07.11 13:17:11 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 40) : As one of my fellow Shark supporting friends pointed out to me a few months ago after Bosman and Terblanche had been embarrased by Jean De Villier and Jaque Fourie, the last time the sharks had a good center pairing as when Frans Steyn and Brad Barrit played for us in 2007. Ironically both promising youngesters are now plying their trade overseas in France and England repectively.

  • Comment 41, posted at 05.07.11 13:20:23 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • I think we will have Ndungane or Mvovo available for our Currie Cup. Not enough space for Both. Def.Bok Wingers JPP,Aplon and Habana. Only really space left for one more for a 30 man springbok squad.

    Keen to see what Jaco van Tonder does for Sharks U/21; i think he could be really good at 15. We shall see, exciting times.

  • Comment 42, posted at 05.07.11 13:20:28 by JJR Reply
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  • Let’s look at WP quickly…

    Front row (well we know we ain’t losing shit in that area!!!)
    Hookers: Both Liebenberg and Fourie
    Locks: hmmm… Might be short here…
    Loosies: Koster, Vermeulen, Louw (P), Carr, Kolisi,
    Scrummies: Duvvies, Schreuder, Groom
    Flyhalf: Van Aswegen, Cronje, Coleman
    Centers: Whitehead, Sadie
    Wings: Engelbrecht, Poolman
    Fullback: Jantjies, Cronje

    Almost all featured in Super Rugby this season or last, haven’t touched on the U/21 guys even…

  • Comment 43, posted at 05.07.11 13:23:12 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 38) : Abrie Minnie is Griquas head coach for the Currie Cup

  • Comment 44, posted at 05.07.11 13:24:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 42) : I believe both Mvovo and Ndungane will return for the Sharks unless either of them puts in huge performances in the away leg of the 3N (that is if they’re choosen at all). PDV will probably prefer Hougaard over both anyway as he can cover scrumhalf as well as wing in equal capacity (meaning he isn’t a Ruan Pienaar).

    I hope with Michalak back that Lambie doesn’t get moved to fullback. He is best used at flyhalf I think. (I am now of course thinking about Super 15 next year!).

  • Comment 45, posted at 05.07.11 13:24:15 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 43) :

    Molly has all the names of players under contract, perhaps she can fill the gaps there for me.

  • Comment 46, posted at 05.07.11 13:24:56 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 44) : Albrie Minnie… unfamiliar with that name. Coached any major team before?

  • Comment 47, posted at 05.07.11 13:25:48 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 41) :

    Haleluja Brother, Amen!

    The defense rests your honor!!!
    Lets get steyn!!!!

  • Comment 48, posted at 05.07.11 13:25:53 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 43) : Isn’t Van Aswegen still out?

  • Comment 49, posted at 05.07.11 13:26:27 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • Let’s not forget our newest signing that will be with us come Currie Cup. The brand new Sharkie! 🙄

  • Comment 50, posted at 05.07.11 13:27:32 by Ben Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 49) :

    They reckon he should be ready, I know Dollie is playing in the friendlies now.

  • Comment 51, posted at 05.07.11 13:28:21 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 50) : Yes hello, thats me! 😆

  • Comment 52, posted at 05.07.11 13:28:39 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 50) :

    Hehe…

  • Comment 53, posted at 05.07.11 13:28:40 by MornĂ© Reply
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  • I never liked Steyn at 12. I only like him at 15 and nowhere else. I haven’t seen him play much in France but when he was still here he was the most selfish 12 we’ve ever had.

  • Comment 54, posted at 05.07.11 13:28:41 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 54) : I would still take Steyn at 12 over Bosman or Joubert anyday!

  • Comment 55, posted at 05.07.11 13:30:28 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • Here’s a off topic story. The shortest Springbok ever died recently! He was 15cm shorter than Gio Aplon! Check it out: http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Shortest-Springbok-ever-dies-20110704

  • Comment 56, posted at 05.07.11 13:31:52 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 55) :

    Joubert is a 13 and not a 12.

    I’ll reserve my judgement about Steyn till I see him play in the Tri Nation. Last time he played for the Boks he looked fat, lazy and slow.

    On form and in shape I would love to have Steyn at 15 for the Boks in the WC.

  • Comment 57, posted at 05.07.11 13:33:23 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 57) : Oh my bad 😳

    And I was just about to say we need to find a replacement for Oupa Stef. So the Oupa is being replaced by an Oupa. Great logic Sharks! 😐

  • Comment 58, posted at 05.07.11 13:35:28 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 55) :

    Well said young man!!!!
    I would even take Jeremy Thompson at age 50 over Bosman or Stef.

  • Comment 59, posted at 05.07.11 13:36:40 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 59) : Who said I was young?? 😉 And I think anyone who fought in the Boer War or thinks black and white TV is the new thing has got to be banned from playing rugby. 😆

  • Comment 60, posted at 05.07.11 13:39:28 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • don’t forget the lions, we drew with them recently and they arent losing anyone besides butch. I know theyve lost their check book but they still got the same players

  • Comment 61, posted at 05.07.11 13:43:50 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 59) :

    Jeremy Thompson was great but also only while Dick Muir was playing on his inside at 12. Dick Muir’s brilliance made Jeremy Thompson look great IMO

  • Comment 62, posted at 05.07.11 13:44:03 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Mvovo should be with the Boks for 3N and WC. The only reason he won’t be ahead of Aplon in the pecking order is that Plumtree hasn’t started him nearly enough.

    @Pokkel (Comment 57) :
    I agree with you that Frans has looked fat and slow of late. Not sure where he would be better – in my opinion he could be an awesome 12 or 15. But he needs to join Weighless first.

  • Comment 63, posted at 05.07.11 13:44:15 by Big Fish Reply
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  • don’t forget the lions, we drew with them recently and they arent losing anyone besides butch. I know they’ve lost their check book but they still got the same players

  • Comment 64, posted at 05.07.11 13:44:22 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 61) : Butch James was largely the cornerstone of that draw (in both a good and bad way :mrgreen: ). Saying that the Lions have “only lost Butch” is the understatement of the century.

  • Comment 65, posted at 05.07.11 13:47:48 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • Steven Sykes is definitely going away as @RossSkeate has just tweeted on twitter that he is wishing him (Sykes) and Swanepoel goodbye. Check out the pic at http://yfrog.com/h4tolmqj

  • Comment 66, posted at 05.07.11 13:50:10 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 64) : Ive been waiting for someone to punt the Lions. I agree, if the latest shenanigans havent totally deflated their spirit, that they will be serious contenders.

  • Comment 67, posted at 05.07.11 13:50:28 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Service announcement from Multichoice: 

    All “Lion” games will no longer be shown on Supersport channels as Supersport is the Channel of Champions. 
    “Blue Bull” games will be moved to the History Channel.
    All Sharks games can be viewed on Cartoon network.
    Cheetah games will be a specialty show on Animal Planet, since they are almost extinct.

  • Comment 68, posted at 05.07.11 13:54:13 by franshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 68) : And Province games? Can’t show them on Supersport as it is the Channel of Champions. Can’t show their games on the history channel either as the last time they won a trophy TV hadn’t yet been invented :mrgreen: can’t show their games on the disney channel either because that is where dreams come true.

    guess province just don’t deserve to be on tv…

  • Comment 69, posted at 05.07.11 13:58:06 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • @The Sharks Sharkie (Comment 69) : 🙂

  • Comment 70, posted at 05.07.11 14:08:04 by franshark Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 62) :

    So lets get Dick and Thompson to sort out the midfield and sommer get Robert Du Preez to help Mcleod.

  • Comment 71, posted at 05.07.11 14:15:12 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 71) :

    while you at it let’s get Rolls Royce and Lem as well.

  • Comment 72, posted at 05.07.11 14:21:27 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I think the WC team will be
    1. Beast
    2. Bismark
    3. Jannie
    4. Steenkamp
    5. John Smit
    6. Chillyboy
    7. Victor
    8. Bakkies
    9. Flip vd Merwe
    10. Bekker
    11. Burger
    12. Brussow
    13. Juan Smith
    14. Spies
    15. Danie Rossouw
    16. Alberts
    17. Fourie du Preez
    18. Pienaar
    19. Hougard
    20. Butch James
    21. Morne Steyn
    22. De Villiers
    23. Jaque Fourie
    24, Juan de Jongh
    25. JP Peterson
    26. Habana
    27. Bjorn Basson
    28. Mvovo
    29. Frans Steyn
    30. Zane Kirchener

  • Comment 73, posted at 05.07.11 15:16:59 by Mutley Reply
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  • I don’t think Zane will make it… definitely not ahead of Aplon.

    Also reckon one of Mvovo or Basson will fall our for Lambie

  • Comment 74, posted at 05.07.11 15:22:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 53) : You mentioned that Raubenheimer might have moved to Vrystaat.

    Why do you think the Cheetahs haven’t taken the the opportunity to make Sarel Pretorius an offer? A couple of years back Sarel had an excellent Currie Cup for Griquas while Tewis struggled to show decent form.

  • Comment 75, posted at 05.07.11 15:22:22 by beet Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 73) : Aplon will replace Kirshner I think. You also need another tighthead IMO

  • Comment 76, posted at 05.07.11 15:23:17 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 43) : You left out Bosch. Is he going somewhere?

  • Comment 77, posted at 05.07.11 15:24:05 by beet Reply
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  • @MornĂ© (Comment 43) : Locks : Quinn Roux and Neil’s son Reniel Hugo seemed decent enough as back ups for Fondse and Steenkamp???

  • Comment 78, posted at 05.07.11 15:26:28 by beet Reply
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  • I hope Lambie doesn’t go to the WC because then he can play for the Sharks and it would be a waste to take him because he isn’t gona play, they won’t take another tighthead because pdv sees Smit as one, but your right about Aplon he will go

  • Comment 79, posted at 05.07.11 15:27:38 by Mutley Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 75) : Raubies is definitely still with Griquas

  • Comment 80, posted at 05.07.11 15:27:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 79) : nah mate… can’t endorse that line of thinking.

    Going to the World Cup, even if it’s just as a squad member, would be an amazing experience for Pat… and it’s something that I feel he truly deserves based on his play over the last 12 months. To rob him of that just so we can keep him for Currie Cup would, I feel, be short sighted and frankly a little selfish.

  • Comment 81, posted at 05.07.11 15:29:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 79) :

    Who knows what Divvy will do but I wouldn’t go to the WC with just one tighthead.

  • Comment 82, posted at 05.07.11 15:30:36 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 82) :
    No team can afford that. I wonder if BJ Botha is worth a look – good TH’s are in short supply.

    JdP and CJ both haven’t impressed of late.

  • Comment 83, posted at 05.07.11 15:36:10 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Stormers defensive coach Jacques Nienaber is set to join the Springbok coaching team…

  • Comment 84, posted at 05.07.11 15:36:14 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 84) :
    Damn good call that! Masterstroke maybe.

    Them fairies can barely threaten a cupcake on attack, but they sure do have a awesome defence.

  • Comment 85, posted at 05.07.11 15:38:22 by Big Fish Reply
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  • That’s just wishing Lambie would stay but he will go to the WC probebly but that was just who I thought they would take, if I could choose I’d take
    BJ Botha for Chillyboy
    Olivier for Basson
    Aplon for Mvovo
    Lambie for Zane

  • Comment 86, posted at 05.07.11 15:41:57 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 83) :

    PdV will probably take CJ but he definitely won’t be my first choice. Dean Greyling maybe?

  • Comment 87, posted at 05.07.11 15:53:47 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 82) : hehehe spot on, also agree 100% that an in shape Frans Steyn is superb at 15. As for tightheads, I believe BJ will slot in as second tighthead. Also, I think Odders has more chance of making it than Mvovo. I know Rob has mentioned that Basson has done something to hurt his chances for selection, so I think we will see Mvovo drop out with Odders getting the nod.

    And you saw this here first, Danie Roussow will play a huge role in this RWC. 😉

  • Comment 88, posted at 05.07.11 16:02:47 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • PdV may consider Smit as loosehead cover, which would mean Steenkamp possibly dropping out.

  • Comment 89, posted at 05.07.11 16:05:50 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 87) : he’s a loosehead

  • Comment 90, posted at 05.07.11 16:11:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 90) : CJ’s strength has always been his ability to play on both sides of the scrum. This usually makes him the best choice for the bench.

  • Comment 91, posted at 05.07.11 16:26:08 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Who I think PdV may select as his top 22 for the RWC:

    1. Beast
    2. Smit
    3. Jannie
    4. Bakkies
    5. Matfield
    6. Burger
    7. Smith
    8. Spies
    9. FdP
    10. Morne Steyn
    11. Habana
    12. JdV
    13. Fourie
    14. JPP
    15. Steyn
    16. Bissie
    17. CJ
    18. Danie
    19. Alberts
    20. Ruan
    21. de Jongh
    22. Aplon

  • Comment 92, posted at 05.07.11 16:30:06 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 92) : Maybe Butch in for de Jongh or Aplon. This leaves only 7 more spots available. Perhaps Chilli, BJ, Bekker, Hein Brussow, Hougaard, Lambie, and Odders.

  • Comment 93, posted at 05.07.11 16:41:14 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 91) : sorry – I meant Greyling, not CJ

  • Comment 94, posted at 05.07.11 16:51:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 94) : I know you did, was just picking up on your comment to point out that Greyling will not go.

  • Comment 95, posted at 05.07.11 17:15:40 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 95) : Hey Uncle 🙂

  • Comment 96, posted at 05.07.11 17:25:09 by Ben Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 95) : oh thanks 🙂

  • Comment 97, posted at 05.07.11 17:29:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • Peterson, Habana and Aplon will be the wings and the 4th will be between Mvovo, Odwa and Basson

  • Comment 98, posted at 05.07.11 20:21:43 by Mutley Reply
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  • Chatting is little on SW this week….

  • Comment 99, posted at 05.07.11 21:57:44 by franshark Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 98) : On form Habana shouldn’t even make the World Cup squad. I would go with a back three of F. Steyn / Lambie; Pietersen; Mvovo / Hougaard.

  • Comment 100, posted at 05.07.11 22:14:52 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • As much as i like Odwa there is no reason to take him to WC as he will not start and doesnt offer anything off the bench. Your bench needs to inject something into the game. Hence guys like Alberts,Bismarck,Pienaar/Hougaard/Mvovo etc are good bench options as they add something special. Also starting with Butch and having Steyn on the bench isnt a bad move- remember he did win the Lions series for us off the bench!

  • Comment 101, posted at 06.07.11 09:00:10 by SheldonK Reply

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