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Sharks v Lions: by the numbers


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 29 Aug 2011 at 14:43
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It’s always far less fun doing this after the team has suffered a loss, but let’s see if we can glean anything from the match statistics that might help to understand where things went wrong. The numbers we’re using, as always, are courtesy of www.ruggastats.com.

The set pieces worked well for the Sharks this time around, with almost 94% resulting in good possession for the Sharks. John Plumtree was apparently frustrated, yet again, at the refereeing inconsistencies that saw his side unable to capitalise on a clearly dominant scrum, but the Sharks coach will need to also look at what his team does with the ball once they’ve won it. Defence was better this week, with 16 missed tackles out of 133 attempts translating to an overall effectiveness of 88%. That’s 4% better than against the Leopards the week before, but still short of the benchmark of 94% set earlier in the year. Once again, indiscipline and errors killed the Sharks, with a whopping 15 penalties conceded, to go with 33 handling and other unforced errors.

Looking at the best individual defender, Keegan Daniel wins the gong for most tackles completed, with his 11 stops just slightly ahead of Ross Skeate, Marcell Coetzee and Fred Michalak, who managed 10 each. Each of the players already mentioned, though, missed at least one tackle, leaving Dale Chadwick as the best tackler statistically, with 9 hits and no misses. Amongst the backs, Lwazi Mvovo was statistically the best, with 6 stops and none missed.

Marcell Coetzee missed the most this week, with 3 out of his 13 attempts going awry (77% effectiveness). Daniel and Michalak missed 2 each (both on 83%) while the worst tackler, statistically, was Adrian Jacobs, who only attempted a single tackle – and missed it! Jean Desysel also missed 1, while making 2 others, giving him a surprisingly-low 67%.

He might not have started the game, but Jean Deysel certainly made an impact with ball in hand, leading the ball-carrying stat with 13 carries. Next-best was Mvovo with 9, just ahead of Coetzee with 8. It was a feature of the match, though, that the ball carriers for the Sharks made very little ground – Deysel’s carries only resulted in a nett gain of 35m, while Coetzee managed 40. The backs did better, with Louid Ludik topping the pile, gaining 87m, just ahead of Mvovo with 86m. There were only 3 line breaks in total, courtesy of Mvovo, Craig Burden and Stefan Terblanche.

Deysel was also the most active handler of the ball (outside of the halfbacks), touching the pill 15 times. Terblanche was just a little further back on 14, with Meyer Bosman and Mvovo each handling the ball 12 times. Meyer Bosman came into his own as a distributor, passing the ball 10 times, with Jacques Botes just a little further back with 9. Spare a thought for Charl McLeod, who had a busy day passing the ball 43 times… pity nobody outside him could think of anything useful to do with it!

Ruck attendance was surprisingly low this week. Ross Skeate was top of the pops again, hitting 24 this time around, just a little ahead of Chadwick and Botes, on 21 each. Meyer Bosman was the busiest back, with 17 ruck hits, which was more than a number of the forwards!

Looking at errors, Coetzee and Ludik share the dubious honour of most penalties conceded, with 3 each. Hats off again to McLeod, with only 2 handling errors out of the 50 times he touched the ball… while Keegan Daniel goofed most with ball in hand, dropping it 4 times. The total screwup score, which sums errors, penalties and missed tackles, is split a few ways with Keegan Daniel and Marcell Coetzee both racking up a score of 8, while Louis Ludik was just behind on 7.

Lwazi Mvovo and Jean Deysel were joint contenders for statistical man of the match, with neither doing enough to win it outright.


41 Comments

  • Sharks, even with their Bok discards were OWNED by the lions, Elton making line breaks willy nilly! πŸ˜†

    hats off to warren whitely, derrick minnie & ou wikus for showing up the sharks loosies.

    kanko is a showpony πŸ˜›

  • Comment 1, posted at 29.08.11 14:45:51 by Megatron Reply
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  • kanko & keegan in the same team, young marcel coetzee was left to his own devices in the colisions, those tow lightweights are not grafters by any means!

    for all the comparisons to stegmann, did keegan at least DOMINATE derrick minnie? πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 2, posted at 29.08.11 14:50:37 by Megatron Reply
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  • mapoe is one of the Lions’ most improvd players.

  • Comment 3, posted at 29.08.11 14:51:27 by Megatron Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 1) : @Megatron (Comment 2) : @Megatron (Comment 3) :

    Feeling better now..? πŸ™„

  • Comment 4, posted at 29.08.11 14:56:14 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 1) :

    Sadly it’s all true!

  • Comment 5, posted at 29.08.11 14:58:11 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Gotta look at coetzee back at 8 with Deysel at 7.

  • Comment 6, posted at 29.08.11 15:02:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • I’ve been very disappointed in Deysel’s tackle stats lately, he doesn’t seem to contribute enough there and he missed a fair amount of the few he attempts. This weekends stats were made 2 missed 1, isn’t that the primary job of the loosie?

  • Comment 7, posted at 29.08.11 15:11:39 by molly Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 4) : oh i forgot you’re one of those πŸ˜†

    did keegan at least slow down lions ball, how many defensive rucks did he attend as the openside flank?

  • Comment 8, posted at 29.08.11 15:41:12 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 8) : :mrgreen: πŸ˜†

  • Comment 9, posted at 29.08.11 15:48:20 by wpw Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 8) : One of those…?

  • Comment 10, posted at 29.08.11 15:48:38 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 8) : πŸ™„ Sheesh dude, don’t tell me I have to lecture you *again* about not expecting objectivety from us bunch of froth-at-the-mouth-fanatical Sharks supporters!? :mr. green:

  • Comment 11, posted at 29.08.11 15:59:02 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 10) : yes, those rabid sharks supporters who care about the details in a game only when THEY win.

    my judgement not being clouded by subjectivity allows me to look at a guy like keegan for example and not be doey-eyed even when i see that keegan only hit for rucks in defence as the first player to arrive at the point of breakdown, meaning bondesio had truck loads of quickball to either snipe before the sharks defence has re-grouped or pass to elton to exploit the fractured defence.

  • Comment 12, posted at 29.08.11 16:01:18 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 11) : please don’t cos that means i’ll have to reply and tell you again, i don’t expect sh*t from you πŸ˜€

  • Comment 13, posted at 29.08.11 16:03:54 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 12) : keegan is a number 8, dude. He’s never been a great ground player.

  • Comment 14, posted at 29.08.11 16:04:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 13) : TouchΓ©, oh tireless champion of the facts! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 15, posted at 29.08.11 16:08:37 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 12) : I can be objective…no problem….What I do have a problem with is the fact that when we LOSE you are one of “those’ who cannot wait to throw your disdainful comments about my teams’players…If you did this with all other teams, I might have a different view of your comments, but I have never seen you slain any other team like you do the Sharks. So naturally I see your comments as stirring or trolling…You have given me NO indication that your comments could or should actually be taken seriously. Perhaps try another approach and I might just discuss my objective opinion with you… πŸ˜€

  • Comment 16, posted at 29.08.11 16:11:18 by Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : where was he playing last weekend?

    i still remember the chorus about why he wasn’t in the bok team that went to australasia to play 6 OPENSIDE in front of stegmann and how he “dominated” stegmann @ loftus :mrgreen:

    now he is a 8, go figure

  • Comment 17, posted at 29.08.11 16:12:07 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 15) : no need to brown nose :mrgreen:

  • Comment 18, posted at 29.08.11 16:12:48 by Megatron Reply

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  • Guys, never mind Megatron or ‘Trannie’ as he’s better know.

    He’s just bitter because the Sharks raid all the Eastern Cape talent leaving the Kings’ pantry threadbare.

    Also, he has finally realised that the Kings is not the transformation team he hoped it would be but rather a team where has beens and never were’s go to die.

  • Comment 19, posted at 29.08.11 16:15:40 by John Galt Reply

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  • @John Galt (Comment 19) : hey johnny-come-lately, the people hear know who i am, no need for a re-introduction. πŸ™‚

  • Comment 20, posted at 29.08.11 16:17:53 by Megatron Reply

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  • @John Galt (Comment 19) : Shame, and he also had to recently learn that the upstanding Cheeky Watson supported Pdivvy for the Bok job with the payback that Luke would be made Bok captain.

  • Comment 21, posted at 29.08.11 16:21:05 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Memo

    To: All Sharksworld Readers
    From: Culling Song
    Re: Keegan’s Drop in Performance

    Hey guys ‘n gals, don’t worry about Keegan. He’s just resting. So he can stuff up the Bulls single-handedly. Like he always does.

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 22, posted at 29.08.11 16:22:11 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Just cause keegan is a shit 6 doesn’t mean he’s a worse one than stegmann :).

    My gran’s a better 6 than stegmann

  • Comment 23, posted at 29.08.11 16:23:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 22) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 24, posted at 29.08.11 16:24:45 by Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : πŸ˜†

  • Comment 25, posted at 29.08.11 16:25:20 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 20) :
    They know you by name not the true nature of your bitterness oh tranny boy.
    I would put a mrgreen sign here but you already have green all over you, it should actually be mrenvybecauseidonthavearealteamtosupport.
    (oh to hell with it) :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 26, posted at 29.08.11 16:26:17 by John Galt Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 22) : 😎

  • Comment 27, posted at 29.08.11 16:27:30 by Megatron Reply

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  • @John Galt (Comment 26) : how can i be bitter when my EC boys are pursuing careers at unions playing in leagues higher than the one my hometown team currently plays?
    are you suggesting that i’m also bitter about siya kolisi, kurt coleman, tim whitehead?

    yours is a dumb accusation, fabricated from nothing πŸ˜€

  • Comment 28, posted at 29.08.11 16:33:10 by Megatron Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : ok, while we’re on this subject, what do you think of the ground skills of Deysel?

    I really thought you were one of the peeps calling for him to be a Bok #6 ❓

  • Comment 29, posted at 29.08.11 16:36:10 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 29) : apparently every Sharks loosie is better #6 than Stegmann πŸ˜†

  • Comment 30, posted at 29.08.11 16:50:18 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 28) : Kolisi is good, but soft.

  • Comment 31, posted at 29.08.11 16:59:08 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 31) : maybe a wp kampstaaldraad is the solution πŸ™‚

  • Comment 32, posted at 29.08.11 17:04:11 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 32) : You must be joking, it was the wp contingent led by Krige that had misgivings about staaldraad.

    Hmmm what would a WP version of staaldraad entail? I see pink feathers being involved.

  • Comment 33, posted at 29.08.11 17:14:49 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 30) : even the U21 and U19’s…. πŸ™‚

  • Comment 34, posted at 29.08.11 17:17:35 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 33) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 35, posted at 29.08.11 17:18:45 by Megatron Reply

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  • Linebreaks and ball retention create momentum, if you have momentum in your favour you get the results… Look how the momentum swung into our favour with the likes of Deysel coming onto the park, Deysel is a bus and hard to stop, but when he is stopped there is no flair… Creativity is way down, and predictability way up… Really disappointing – we had the firepower to win this game, we didn’t – round 2 begins and we need to find our mojo…

  • Comment 36, posted at 29.08.11 17:28:47 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • Just finished watching rebroadcast of the match. I am very impressed with the next “Bakkies”. Jandre Marais played 27 minutes he forced 1 turnover on defense, made 2 tackles no misses, 4 ball carries, and the most important hit 11 rucks 2 less than Keegan 4 less that Ross 3 more than Bresler. He also had two line out steals. When will he get more game time. Maybe because he is an import he is not so well liked?

  • Comment 37, posted at 29.08.11 17:57:05 by FS Shark Reply

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  • @FS Shark (Comment 37) : Most of our team are imports of some kind or another.

    It’s never stopped us from giving them a chance ahead of homegrown players or liking them.

    Jandre has come thru the junior system and is still very young – only 22.

    I’m quite sure Jandre be awarded an S15 contract for next season and I won’t be surprised if he becomes a regular starter in a year or 2.

    I believe that the Sharks need a 5th lock for S15 to go with Jandre, Hargreaves, Bresler and Skeate. If we’re not planning to use Aberts as cover here, it will be interesting to see if young Peet Marais is relied upon or if we get yet another IMPORT. πŸ˜€

  • Comment 38, posted at 29.08.11 18:26:17 by beet Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 29) : me? I dunno hey. Look, wollie does have very good ground skills… I actually rate him as the best of the Sharks loosies when it comes to that, but I think that playing him as an out-and-out 6 wouldn’t suit him. He is a far more natural ball-carrier. At 7, his fetching skills are just a bonus.

  • Comment 39, posted at 29.08.11 18:38:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • @FS Shark (Comment 37) : I agree would like to see him compliment our other big boys ,willem /deysel so on…

    Sharks need better centers and need to find a balance in the loose forward trio ,some players need to find form or be dropped, tough times

  • Comment 40, posted at 29.08.11 19:43:51 by Talent Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 38) : I agree with you but the age thing does not fit nicely. Marcell is only 19 turning 20 and he is selected ahead of other more experienced players. I would suggest a rotation system to bleed all the young players for next year S15. How will ever get eperienced if you do not get on the field? πŸ˜†

  • Comment 41, posted at 30.08.11 09:25:25 by FS Shark Reply

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