Richard Ferguson

Kirchner back in Blue, maybe…

Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Bulls, Currie Cup, Original Content on 11 Oct 2011 at 13:41
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The Bulls have selected their team to face the Leopards on Friday night, with returning Springbok Zane Kirchner bracketed in with Jurgen Visser as fullback.

Kirchner, after being called to New Zealand following the injury to Frans Steyn, comes off a round trip that had him carrying a few tackle bags, and will be the only returning Springbok available for selection for Friday night’s game, should they be able to get hold of him.

Kirchner is yet to touch down in South Africa, and the Bulls are still in the dark whether he will be available, but should he fail to return on time, Jurgen Visser will slot into the fullback jersey. Visser is back in the squad after an injury picked up two weeks ago, that had Gerhard van den Heever covering the last line of defence.

15 Jurgen Visser/Zane Kirchner, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 Wynand Olivier, 12 Francois Venter, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Louis Fouch, 9 Jano Vermaak, 8 CJ Stander, 7 Jacques Potgieter, 6 Deon Stegmann, 5 Juandre Kruger, 4 Flip van der Merwe, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Gary Botha (captain), 1 Dean Greyling

Substitutes: 16 Willie Wepener, 17 Frik Kirsten, 18 Gerrit-Jan van Velze, 19 Arno Botha, 20 Dustin Jinka, 21 Francois Brummer, 22 Jurgen Visser / Gerhard van den Heever


  • This year has been a horrible year for the bulls πŸ™ i just can not stomach the bulls not making the currie cup semi finals.

    I know i was shooting my mouth last week about van den heever at full back :mrgreen: he failed to impress at full back. πŸ˜₯

    This year i got all my predictions wrong. 😈

    I had high hopes for dippernaar..francois brummer..van den heever…bradley moolman..skosan and a few more players to make the step up.

    Very disappointed.

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.10.11 13:50:44 by Muzi Reply
  • I have eaten wayyyyy tooo much humble pie this year. πŸ‘Ώ

    Now i will have to sit on my couch..shut up :mrgreen: and try find the reasons as to why my beloved bulls have regressed this year.

    Not kewl at all.

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.10.11 13:54:06 by Muzi Reply
  • @Muzi (Comment 2) :

    Regressed is a term that you have been using a lot this year?!

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.10.11 13:56:03 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 3) : What can i say :mrgreen: i am lost to words as to why my beloved bulls did not play well this year.

    I mean we were super 14 champs last year now we can not even make the currie cup semi finals.

    Dude it really sucks being a bulls supporter right now. πŸ˜₯

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.10.11 14:01:08 by Muzi Reply

  • @Muzi (Comment 1) : What you doing next weekend when the rest of us are watching our teams in the semi-finals? πŸ™‚

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.10.11 14:07:55 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 5) : Thanks alot πŸ‘Ώ

    Well i have varsity exams coming up i might as well go hiding. :mrgreen:

    Everytime i log in you sharkies will give me a tough time about the bulls not making the semi finals. 😈

    Like i said i just can not stomach the fact that the bulls will not be playing in the semi finals.

    So stop it now :mrgreen:

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.10.11 14:13:14 by Muzi Reply

  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 5) :


  • Comment 7, posted at 11.10.11 14:18:05 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 7) : πŸ‘Ώ

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.10.11 14:20:27 by Muzi Reply

  • Bulls under 21s against the leopards its going to be tough.
    This side is not unbeatable.
    The backline is exciting but on defence the likes of jacobs….blommetjies…and mastriet are abit suspect.
    Willie did well against the valke.

    Clayton Blommetjies, Sampie Mastriet, Bradley Moolman, Adri Jacobs, Courtnall Skosan, JC Roos, Lohan Jacobs, Jono Ross, Wiaan Liebenberg, Dalton Davis, Franco Mostert, JJ Breet,Stephan Pretorius, Bongi Mbonambi, Juan Schoeman.

    Replacements: Jacques Momberg, Basil Short, Rudolph Smith, Lean Schwartz, Xander Redelinghuys, Willie du Plessis, Ulrich Beyers

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.10.11 14:23:28 by Muzi Reply

  • Very happy that ex grey college prop pretorius is fit again juan schoeman struggled in the scrum.

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.10.11 14:24:46 by Muzi Reply

  • @Muzi (Comment 9) :

    Beyers on the bench? To be fair, on his Junior World Champs form he’s not a Super rugby prospect, but sitting on the bench at his province? Seems a bit harsh.

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.10.11 14:25:43 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 11) : Very Harsh on beyers he was starting to look like the beyers of the wp under 19s. :mrgreen:

    Look blommetjies is talented BUT again its the size that worries me.

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.10.11 14:29:56 by Muzi Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 11) :Looking at some of these players i struggle to see any players who will make the step up soon.

    Moolman used to run over players at monument but we all saw in junior rugby world cup he got exposed.

    Beyers has potential but he still needs alot of hard work to do.

    Mastriet i’d say 50/50 he has speed but again on defence he is like basson.

    Skosan is a no.

    Ross 50/50 he is a dirty player though :mrgreen:

    Liebenberg is the only player that can join arno botha soon.

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.10.11 14:34:15 by Muzi Reply

  • @Muzi

    Did you watch the valke game? How did the former sharks u/21 Willie played? I been away and did not saw the game on telly. I have heard that the CC and u/21 couches were impressed with his performance. He learned a lot in 3 years in durbs. Oom Ian submit an application for him to play in the semi and final.It was granted.

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.10.11 14:41:33 by Reebok Reply

  • Bulls under 19s a great bunch of talented players picked by Paul Anthony.

    Jantjies is the top scorer in this year’s competition with 172 points, way ahead of the next player.

    The Blue Bulls will expect some magic from Jantjies, but also the rest of the team as they are approaching the playoff rounds of the competition.

    The team is: Juan Nel; Richard Gorrah, William Small-Smith Β©, Andile Jho, Travis Ismael, Tony Jantjies, Abrie Griesel, Hardus van der Walt, Cloete Wessels, Shaun Adendorff, Marvin Orie, Schalk van Heerden, Hencus van Wyk, Jason Thomas, Du Toit Genis.

    Replacements: Jaco Visagie, Christoph Gouws, Herman Groenewald, Stefan Willemse, Rudi van Rooyen, Christian Rust, Christopher Bosch, Nico van Vuuren.

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.10.11 14:43:26 by Muzi Reply

  • @Reebok (Comment 14) :
    Willie Du plessis has already won me over i was over the moon with his performance he was great. :mrgreen:

    He looks wayyyy better than Roos at 10.He attacked the line well he gave the bulls a new dimension on attack.

    You wouldnt think he plays like a bulls junior flyhalf.

    Du plessis has already won himself a contract.

    The Bulls management were impressed !

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.10.11 14:50:21 by Muzi Reply

  • So we finally see the back of Gary ‘the lip’ Botha at Loftus..

    I say, good riddance!

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.10.11 15:09:21 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Muzi (Comment 2) : Reasons are obvious.

    1 your depth isn`t as it should be. But that`s a problem all of us share.

    2 Craig Joubert was at the world cup as well and everyone knows he favours you guys as much as Marius Jonker. 😈

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.10.11 15:10:02 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Reebok (Comment 14) : In your opinion, why didn’t Willie make the grade as a Sharks u21 this season?

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.10.11 15:19:46 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 19) : The Sharks u21 coach probably saw Fred Zeilinga as a better prospect and pulled him up and when he slotted in with relative ease,it was tickets for Willie,just my opinion. Fred has been highly rated for sometime,remember watching him in 2009 at Craven Week,should’ve been SA Schools flyhalf that year,was the best flyhalf by far

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.10.11 15:41:30 by Ludz Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 20) :

    What’s the story this year? Not in the Sharks U19 squad, but rather on the bench for the U21’s 😯

    On the other hand, the U21’s look a shot… maybe they’ve given up on the U19’s title prospects.

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.10.11 15:45:31 by hendrikp Reply

  • @Beet(Comment 19): He had a raw deal this year. Sean Everitt told him and Andrew Norton that Fred z and Paul J must play under instruction to fast track them and groom them for next year. It was nothing they did wrong. This is just how rugby works. My opinion is that Fred will not make the step up. They tried him in the VC. He only played 4 games. The rest is history. Now they trying him at 9. PJ is a differnet story, he can play. He will make the step up.

    Willie is set to play Varsity Cup for Tuks next year.

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.10.11 15:48:10 by Reebok Reply

  • @Original Pierre (Comment 18) : πŸ‘Ώ sweet

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.10.11 15:49:32 by Muzi Reply

  • @Reebok (Comment 22) : So what you telling me is that Jordaan is being groomed as a back up for Pat Lambie at 10

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.10.11 15:53:38 by Muzi Reply

  • @Reebok (Comment 22) : Thanks Reebok.

    I figured that much. I kind of have the same feeling about Brynard Stander. He’s been benched to let the younger and very promising Jafta get as much exposure as possible.

    I guess the Union has to consider long term interests as well as the short term. It’s actually in a way pleasing to hear that their is a co-ordinated effort with a long term goal in mind.

    Willie definitely has opportunites up in Gauteng. The Varsity Cup has already opened a few doors for “overlooked” players + there are a number of teams on close proximity Bulls, Lions, Leopards, Valke, Pumas who could enlist his services later in the year.

    BTW have you seen been able to see any good relatively unknown youngsters that we should be keeping an eye out for in 2012, particularly at u19 level?

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.10.11 15:55:50 by beet Reply
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  • @Ludz (Comment 20) : Ludz. Seems like you were spot on mate :mrgreen: Reebok has an inside track on happens, so his post on why Willie was dropped is as good as fact.

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.10.11 15:57:58 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 25) : I hope young emile swartz can play rugby again he could have been playing currie cup rugby soon.

    He had the size..pace and power to be a bok wing.

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.10.11 15:59:36 by Muzi Reply

  • @Muzi (Comment 24) Yes it was between FZ and PJ. They gave them the opportunity to proof themselves at 10. I haven’t had chat with Grant Bashford since moving to CT. But I know they are highly impressed with PJ at 10. He must just work on his kicking game.

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.10.11 16:01:38 by Reebok Reply

  • @Reebok (Comment 28) : You guys have another great talent at 10 Gavin Haupleisch from paarl boys high he has a long term injury though.

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.10.11 16:07:34 by Muzi Reply

  • @beet (Comment 26) You seen all the real good youngsters. Why? you know junior rugby. I follow you on all the blogs. Will keep you in the loop. BTW I am ecstatic about the opportunity Gouws got. Now for Heimar and Piet. What is happening with Cobus? The Bulls are after Stander. I believe they had a chat with him. Enough said.

  • Comment 30, posted at 11.10.11 16:17:06 by Reebok Reply

  • @Reebok (Comment 30) : The bulls have released Marnus Schoeman πŸ‘Ώ so to make bulls supporters happy Heyneke is trying hard to sing Byrandt :mrgreen:

    The bulls have already told Dalton Davis he will not get a senior contract.

  • Comment 31, posted at 11.10.11 16:22:27 by Muzi Reply

  • @Reebok (Comment 30) : I am still waiting for plum to give heimar and piet a chance.

    Pine did not hesitate to drop watermeyer and dippernaar for francois venter.

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.10.11 16:24:02 by Muzi Reply

  • @Muzi (Comment 32) : You guys can always send Mastriet back to the 7s .That would be most cool.

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.10.11 16:30:39 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
  • @Muzi (Comment 4) : Dont worry. The bulls are a proud team ,one I admire , I cant see them being terrible for much longer .

  • Comment 34, posted at 11.10.11 16:31:37 by Talent Reply
  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 33) : Na Mastriet will be playing senior rugby next year he will need to sort out his defence big time.

  • Comment 35, posted at 11.10.11 16:37:27 by Muzi Reply

  • @Talent (Comment 34) : Its been a depressing year i hope things are better next year.

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.10.11 16:39:04 by Muzi Reply

  • @Muzi (Comment 32) you will see Heimar vs Francois and Piet vs Bradley in the u/21 Semi on Loftus. Also returning for the Bulls are Fouche, Botha and CJ. That is if WP beat the Pumas. The bulls will be awsome next year.

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.10.11 17:53:26 by Reebok Reply

  • @Muzi (Comment 31) : @beet (Comment 25) : @Reebok (Comment 22) : Firstly Reebok,I think that FZ will make the step up,let’s not forget he’s only 19 so give him time he’ll get there. Beet the only lads I know of are Sphu Msutwana (Dale no.13),now this is a player and half,ripped defences apart this season,blessed with a great step and unbelievable pace,he also has great strength to back his already impressive figure,he formed a dangerous centre pairing with Ace Jho last year. The only problem might be that with Tyler Fischer there,he might have to shift to wing,a position he could also fill with aplomb. The Sharks have a star in this lad. Of course big Johan Meyer will also be there,excited about that 8,9,10 combo between him,Stefan Ungerer and Robert du Preez. Muzi Stander would definitely be a great aquisition for the Bulls,more especially since I reckon Arno Botha and CJ Stander are natural 8thmen and shouldn’t be seen as flankers in the future,we need a guy like Stander for blinside flank

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.10.11 19:12:40 by Ludz Reply

  • Hey Muzi

    In relation to your posts via Brummer, Watermeyer and Dippenaar, any idea what is happening to them? Have always liked these guys, saw them play at JWC in Belfast and they were pretty good, always thought Brummer would be excellent flyhalf. My feeling is he might be better suited playing a more attacking game, I would love it if the Lions got hold of him and Spencer took him under his wing. What about Dippenaar and Watermeyer, are they likely to stay on?

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.10.11 19:57:43 by Pat Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 38) : Hey Ludz. I seen Msutwana playing for Dale earlier this year and altho all the Dale backs were exciting and a pleasure to watch, Sphu stood out as a fantastic prospect. I’m really excited about him coming to join us.

    Players positions aren’t set in stone. A very highly respected coach here who works at all levels from schools to club said that he believed that Tyler Fisher wud make an excellent wing. This wud pave the way for Sphu to play centre or who knows maybe even fullback.

    I’m sad that Moolman will be leaving us at the end of the year but happy that we’ve signed a good no.12 in the form of Michael Bernard of the high flying Oakdale team from Riversdale.

    Allan Dell’s father told me that Bangi Kobese is heading our way. Bangi was amongst my favourites at the Kearsney Fest. I’m just sad that he’s u19 this year. It’s a hard road ahead for him.

    I’ve seen Matthew Williams at Kingspark a few times. He’s sort of in the same boat at the moment. It’s extremely difficult to establish yourself when you miss out on the u19 year and have to go straight to u21 rugby. That’s why I think a national u20 compo in the first part of the year as a lead up to selecting the JWC team wud be a good idea (the club coaches will hate me for this suggestion).

    S. Dell also said that altho he went to Marlow Gouws Prinsloo is from Queenstown originally and that you guys are expecting something like 11 players back next year, so hopefully will be able to put one or two over Selborne in 2012, seeing that they only have 3 back.

    Johan Meyer is a prize signing. He comes to us rated as a 5-star player so we’re expecting a lot from him. Sharksworld’s Robdylan does some awesome work for junior rugby and players at the Sharks, so I’m sure that at some stage in early 2012 he’ll do an interview with Johan which will be a kind of introduction to the fans for a player who will hopefully go on to become a household name here and abroad.

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.10.11 21:01:42 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 40) : one or two steps ahead of you, Beeto…

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.10.11 21:24:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pat (Comment 39) :

    Hey Pat

    Stephan Dippernaar i believe is in stellenbosch with the sevens side.

    His little cousin said the bulls are not giving him game time so he is trying to get a sevens contract.

    There are rumours that watermeyer might be going oversees he still has a two year contract with the bulls though.

    Francois Brummer is perhaps the major disappointment.

    Apparently brummer might me on his way to france its a good career move for him he was an attacking flyhalf BUT the bulls tried to change him into a conservative flyhalf he looks tentative..undecided and off form.

    He did turn down an offer from a french side last year i think that was a huge mistake also the signing of JLP did not help him at all.

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.10.11 21:26:20 by Muzi Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 38) : I believe the bulls were after marcell coetzee and Stander.

    Byrandts style of play will suit the bulls he likes inflicting pain on other players :mrgreen:

    I heard the bulls are desperate to sign him.

    Meyer spoke about getting back to the days of having strong powerfull loose forwards.

    Dewaldt Potgieter is an intelligent player BUT he gets bullied in the contact points.

    Stander would be a fantastic signing.

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.10.11 21:33:27 by Muzi Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 41) : Rob, I think it wud still be a gross underestimation if you said that you’re a half marathon or 2 ahead of me. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.10.11 21:42:28 by beet Reply
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  • @Muzi (Comment 42) : I think the whole Brummer rollercoaster ride is a reminder of how tough and uncertain a career in the pro rugby industry can be. 1 minute the sky appears to be the limit and the childhood dream of being a local hero that goes on to wear Green and Gold seems like it’s bound to become a reality and the next minute it’s the start of a nightmare, at barely 22 y.o. the player is almost portrayed as a has-been who can’t cut it in the S/Hemisph. game. Too harsh sometimes don’t you think?

  • Comment 45, posted at 11.10.11 21:50:13 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 45) : Well said Beet very harsh and i am still not happy πŸ˜₯ at all about this whole brummer fiasco.

    Up to this day i still question the way the bulls handle some of the junior flyhalves.

    Brummer will now join the likes of len olivier and many more who failed to make the step up at the bulls.

    The keyword is game time.

    The bench will make or break you.

  • Comment 46, posted at 11.10.11 21:56:02 by Muzi Reply

  • @Muzi (Comment 43) : dude… Byrandt?
    Do you perhaps mean Brynard?

  • Comment 47, posted at 11.10.11 23:05:00 by robdylan Reply
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