Jaque Fourie off to Japan

Written by Wesley Weber (wpw)

Posted in :Original Content, Stormers, WP on 24 Oct 2011 at 13:09
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In news that is sure to annoy most WP/Stormers supporters, its been confirmed by www.unionsportsmag.co.za that Jaque Fourie will be joining Japanese club Panasonic Wild Knights.

In a deal similar to the one Peter Grant has with his Japanese club, Fourie will join the Knights on 1 November 2011 and return to the Stormers at the end of the Japanese season.

Sharksworld would like to thank Western Province Rugby (Pty) Ltd CEO Rob Wagner for being so economical with the truth!!


  • OK, so let’s just get this out of the way then…

    We should never have allowed Sadie to leave! That is all… πŸ™„ πŸ˜•

  • Comment 1, posted at 24.10.11 13:12:16 by wpw Reply
  • Ugh! Couldn’t he wait a couple more years before chasing the money. This will mean he’ll need to be managed much more carefully next year, with no rest in between seasons.

    Can’t say I’m happy about it. Will have an impact on his Springbok future as well.

    Would be interesting to know how much these guys are being paid in Japan. Whether it’s actually being done for the money, or because they want an overseas experience.

    I know if I had the choice, I wouldn’t be heading that way. Surely a club in France would pay him big money.

  • Comment 2, posted at 24.10.11 13:14:54 by hendrikp Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 1) :

    If the Bulls are really going to embrace a more balanced game (as Heyneke Meyer suggested) then I get the feeling Pretoria is the perfect place for Sadie at the moment.

    We’ll be okay with what we’ve got. With each Japanese franchise signing on overseas players now, who knows, he might be back before the S15 season even starts.

  • Comment 3, posted at 24.10.11 13:18:13 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 2) : I think he chose Japan because the game is a bit easier on the body up there, only crap is the humidity.

  • Comment 4, posted at 24.10.11 13:19:12 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
  • So when will he be back?

  • Comment 5, posted at 24.10.11 13:22:10 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • So every year when someone goes over we say this, so I’ll say it again.

    Fourie will be big in Japan. 😳

  • Comment 6, posted at 24.10.11 13:23:52 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • So economical with the truth? πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

  • Comment 7, posted at 24.10.11 13:25:11 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @Ice Ice Bokkie (Comment 5) : Usually around round 3 unless the team makes the top play-offs then it could be as late as round 6.

  • Comment 8, posted at 24.10.11 13:26:52 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • I don’t think this is a huge issue: much better than losing him completely. Probably a very good compromise.

    He isn’t the first player who has a yen for a bit of travel and foreign currency.

  • Comment 9, posted at 24.10.11 13:29:22 by Big Fish Reply
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  • technically, Wagner didn’t lie…. Fourie will still be available to the Stormers for Super Rugby.

  • Comment 10, posted at 24.10.11 13:32:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 9) : πŸ™‚

  • Comment 11, posted at 24.10.11 13:34:56 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 8) : Juan de Jongh must be relishing the idea of a few more starts in the early rounds.

  • Comment 12, posted at 24.10.11 13:38:30 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Good luck to him. JdJ now has an opportunity to step up in the off-season.

  • Comment 13, posted at 24.10.11 13:39:58 by Speed7 Reply

  • Jaque is 29 already. So we allow our young stars to leave for the Bulls as long we don’t lose our Boks??

    Doesn’t make sense at all.

    We have now lost Sadie, Whitehead and Fourie will prolly not even play CC rugby (like Peter Grant)

    What happens if JDV or JDJ get injured?? Oh wait, we have Marcel Brache and young Klaasen to step up while Sadie is starting for the Bulls!! IDIOTS!! πŸ˜• πŸ‘Ώ

  • Comment 14, posted at 24.10.11 13:47:25 by wpw Reply
  • So Jaque Fourie will be playing rugby for 12 months of the year?

    I hope it’s worth it for him.

    Will he then be available for the 2012 EOYT?

  • Comment 15, posted at 24.10.11 13:47:41 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 15) :

    That is pretty scary. 😯

    I hope the Stormers manage him correctly.

  • Comment 16, posted at 24.10.11 13:58:36 by wpw Reply
  • You have to think that this is the correct move by Mossie at this stage of his career.
    Earn a bit more cash in a league that is not too taxing on the body and then return to SA some time during next years S15.

    Only negative might be the lack of a decent R & R period but rugby in Japan is not exactly uber physical. Shouldnt be too big a deal for him.

  • Comment 17, posted at 24.10.11 14:06:56 by John Galt Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 9) : Aaaaah! I was so hoping your first comment would be: “sounds like a team Bekker should play for” :mrgreen:

    Perhaps even Joost.

  • Comment 18, posted at 24.10.11 14:25:49 by beet Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 3) : The sad part of the Sadie move for me is that in recent weeks Francois Venter looks to have come into his own as an outside centre.

    I fear that he will now be relegated to the bench.

    I know , I know, you’re going to say you see Sadie as a wing down the line. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 19, posted at 24.10.11 14:27:37 by beet Reply
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  • The problem as I see it is that Fourie is an injury prone player so if anything, he should be looking for more time off for his body to recover. By adding this Japanese commitment to SR and Bok games, I fear that he will be expecting too much from an already crocked body. πŸ™

  • Comment 20, posted at 24.10.11 14:30:17 by beet Reply
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  • Wow, Juan de Jongh must be super chuffed.

  • Comment 21, posted at 24.10.11 14:37:57 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 14) : Jeez, what could make this day worse for you? Oh wait! Maybe Province are planning to sign Stefan Terblanche to take Fourie’s place at 13 in next year’s Currie Cup! 😈 πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 22, posted at 24.10.11 14:48:48 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 22) : I just vomited in my mouth

  • Comment 23, posted at 24.10.11 14:55:36 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 10) : Exactly. Why these WP guys getting their knickers in a twist? Fourie will be back to make a mockery of Meyer Bosman and Marius Joubert come February.

  • Comment 24, posted at 24.10.11 14:57:45 by CapeShark Reply
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  • Players are starting to wise up and realise toll it takes on your body to play Super rugby every year, especially now with the competition becomming longer. So players will want to prolong their careers (remember their body is their career) and earn money at the same time. Hence the Japanese league is appealing to top players as they can play there with less intensity and then still return in time to fine tune themselves before internationals.

  • Comment 25, posted at 24.10.11 15:02:15 by SheldonK Reply

  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 23) : πŸ˜†

  • Comment 26, posted at 24.10.11 15:07:24 by Ben Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 25) : But Fourie wants to play Japanese rugby + Superugby + Internationals – +/- 8 week rest period over Christmas πŸ˜•

  • Comment 27, posted at 24.10.11 15:08:30 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 27) : ja agree… this completely flies in the face of the info I was given… which is that Mossie wanted to go to Japan to avoid playing Super Rugby.

  • Comment 28, posted at 24.10.11 15:16:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) : Hopefully that wasn’t the only false info you were given! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 29, posted at 24.10.11 15:18:29 by Ben Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 19) :

    I don’t see Sadie as a wing down the line :mrgreen: I don’t think Meyer and co. will do it.

    If it were me, heck yes. The guys talented, not exactly what we’d deem ‘physical’. Runs good lines, fast. Why not on the wing? Or at least try it to see how he is under high ball and kicking etc.

    I’m foreseeing a Wynand Olivier & Johann Sadie centre-combo for the S15 though, yes. Venter probably sitting on the bench.

    I know you guys have a liking for Lwazi Mvovo, and some for Bjorn Basson, but I can’t imagine those guys playing WC play-off (somewhat defensive) rugby. Sometimes you need to forget about the try-scoring, and just say have they got the ‘pedigree’. Are they all-round better then their opposition? Can Mvovo really ever match Iaone or O’Connor? Not going to happen.

    Habana, Aplon & Pietersen are the best 3 wingers in SA. Nobody else matches these 3 IMO. Nobody else has the skill-set of these 3, so regardless of form, on the day they don’t match up.

    JJ Engelbrecht could, with some good S15 performances force his way in… and if the Bulls show some balls maybe we’ll have Serfontein play senior rugby in 2012 (doubt it though).

  • Comment 30, posted at 24.10.11 15:40:09 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 30) :

    In other words… I’m not one for ‘selecting on form’. Give me the most talented, because form can be dependent on the teammates around you, and is often judged on whether your team is winning or not.

    People might not like to believe it, but Habana is the best we have. I just hope the next Bok coach sees that.

  • Comment 31, posted at 24.10.11 15:45:43 by hendrikp Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 25) : @robdylan (Comment 28) : I can see the appeal of playing in Japan; in SA I probably don’t have enough bulk to play scrumhalf in the Vodacom Cup, but in Asia I loom over the general polulation… so low attrition rate, coupled a big salary, good food and whisky, a greater level of anonymity… I reckon if the tables were turned, I’d do the same.

  • Comment 32, posted at 24.10.11 15:45:55 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 32) :

    Except you’d still have to be freaking excellent to get a contract.

    Fourie will find himself training late at night, with players finishing up their days work at Panasonic to then hit the training field.

    Just so no club players get any ideas πŸ˜›

  • Comment 33, posted at 24.10.11 15:51:23 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 33) : The point is not my ability to compete in Japan, but the appeal to already established players, particularly compared to participating in Super Rugby.

    It should be patently obvious from my avatar that my talents are directed towards achieving my freakishly awesome hairstyle :mrgreen:

  • Comment 34, posted at 24.10.11 15:56:59 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 34) :

    I knew that’s what you meant, but just pointing out that as an average player, you wouldn’t be wanted in Japan unless you worked in electronics πŸ˜›

    That’s not really your hairdo though right? πŸ˜†

  • Comment 35, posted at 24.10.11 15:59:23 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 35) :

    Depends on what mood he’s in! πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 36, posted at 24.10.11 16:00:51 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 35) : @Pokkel (Comment 36) : Don’t listen to Pokkel, that’s an acurate self-portrait :mrgreen:

    OK, so along with the correct spelling of your name, your Schalk Burger obsession and your strongly-held stance on SA wingers, I now also know that you’re not into David Lynch films… πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 37, posted at 24.10.11 16:11:10 by Culling Song Reply
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  • How I’d love a Bulls backline that had a centre-combo of Wynand Olivier & Francois Venter, JJ Engelbrecht the finisher on the left wing, and Johann Sadie the guy coming in at angles on the right.

    But no. They’ll stick to having Basson hug the touchline, with Kirchner launching up-and-unders for him to chase.

    And if the wrong coach takes over at the Springboks, who knows, he’ll probably thing that what worked for the Griquas must surely work for the Springboks. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 38, posted at 24.10.11 16:25:38 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 30) : The RWC playoffs represent an extreme form of the wonderful game. Amongst other things you need nerves of steel, absolute composure and military like disciple.

    But I know where you’re coming from with the comments on the allround abilities of wings (all players for that matter).

    Just the thing for me is that I always imagine backs to be guys who are selected to be attackers who can defend if need be and not defenders who can attack. Lets face it Ioane and o’Connor are 2 of the best attacking players around.

    This week the Sharks centres are being commended coz they did a sound job on D. I’m of the opinion that if Kanko, Burden and/or Daniel made up our midfield, we’d have sound D and get more output from attack.

  • Comment 39, posted at 24.10.11 16:40:01 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 39) :
    Exactly my thinking on this. SA sides struggle with attacking moves cos we drill the backs to defend and play low-risk rugby, not cos we don’t have the abilities.

    Guys like Pienaar, Fransie, JPP and Habana first garnered attention as awesome attacking players, yet they have now become more renowned as steady, dependable and solid. I’m not so sure that’s a good thing.

    When I think of a backline that could include a JP, Hougaard, Lambie, Sadie, Goosen, Taute, Fransie, Habana or Jantjies, I hope that no SA coach other than Paul Treu coaches them (alternatively, a foreigner), just so that they do not get coached out of using their attacking abilities.

    I’m not a big Basson fan, due to his extremely weak phsyical presence, but a guy like Mvovo can turn a game around in a way that a JJ Engelbrecht or Odwa could never dream off – and that’s what a wing needs to do. Let the centres provide the biggest defensive presence.

  • Comment 40, posted at 24.10.11 16:49:48 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 39) :

    Noticing the ‘most talented’ players is a tough job that only a few of us are blessed with. I think I’m one of those, but some would argue :mrgreen:

    Simple things like carrying the ball in the right hand, making the right decisions when you’ve been turned and retrieving the ball with the opposition bearing down on you, even just not forcing a pass or making sure you try stay on your feet or secure the ball if isolated… the list goes on. Those sort of things are what you expect a player with some rugby pedigree to have perfected. Sometimes we need to put the try-scoring thing aside for a second and consider who you’d go into war with? Give me the guy with all-round skill & the heart.

    That’s why for me, Mvovo & Basson specifically aren’t Springboks.

    Reminds me of Henno Mentz selection so much. One of the few times Jake shocked me, but luckily it didn’t last long.

    Anyway, I’m mumbling. I’ll just voice my disapproval with the selections when they are made for the England tour πŸ˜†

  • Comment 41, posted at 24.10.11 17:00:42 by hendrikp Reply

  • @Big Fish (Comment 40) :

    Mvovo undoubtedly one of our best runners out wide.

    Unfortunately he’s got no ball skills. He wouldn’t even make the SA sevens side because he only knows catching the ball and then dashing down the touchline. There’s nothing precise about him.

    You lose too much value selecting players like that continuously. I really think it’s a big weakness going on with players who are ‘out-skilled’ by Australasian opposition.

  • Comment 42, posted at 24.10.11 17:08:07 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 42) :

    JP Pietersen is a talented winger. Sharks should treasure him.

    And for now, I’d go with Odwa on the other wing. Haven’t seen enough of Sithole to make a fair judgement :mrgreen:

  • Comment 43, posted at 24.10.11 17:10:52 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 41) : ja because in you convoluted mind the Springboks have always had the “most talented” players in the country πŸ™„ this is not fantasy league. take a person like ruan, all the skill in the world but the heart and resolve of a gold fish, he is rubbish.

  • Comment 44, posted at 24.10.11 17:18:31 by Megatron Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 42) : hardly, what else did guilford have besides pace and workrate? NOTHING…wayne smith told him to go to Sevens and work with Gordon Tjitjiens to up his skills set and an improvement was there for all to see this year.

  • Comment 45, posted at 24.10.11 17:22:24 by Megatron Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 44) :

    We’ve had the most talented players selected pretty much all the time since White took over from Straueli, yes.

    As for Ruan. Heart and resolve like a gold fish? A great way of saying you just don’t like the guy πŸ˜† He’d be our starting 9 right now had Fourie du Preez not been around and probably up there with Genia as best in the world. You can argue otherwise, but I won’t change my mind that he’s talented enough, and I’m pretty sure has the desire.

  • Comment 46, posted at 24.10.11 17:25:15 by hendrikp Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 45) :

    I would agree with that. So not sure where you’re coming from?

    Guildford had a shocker against Australia in the Tri Nations and wasn’t picked for a serious game since then.

    They went for more balanced look with Kahui & Jane… and likely Toeava as the 3rd-choice winger.

    There is no place at test level for these less-talented players.

    Guildford will probably make it though, playing for the Crusaders. Just like Basson will make the Boks in 2012.

  • Comment 47, posted at 24.10.11 17:29:15 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 46) : who? jaco van der westhuizein, meyer bosman, de wet barry, tonderai chavanga, wynand olivier, try another trick boet!

  • Comment 48, posted at 24.10.11 17:38:02 by Megatron Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 48) :

    I didn’t say 100% of the time… but generally the most talented weren’t ignored.

  • Comment 49, posted at 24.10.11 17:40:48 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 46) : rubbish, you’re just infatuated with the bloke, he is flaky and that has nothing to do with me liking him or not. ask the sharks fans here they’ve been on the edge of their seats before when ruan has to take clutch kicks to win matches…they also know he is a jelly-like…refer to tri-nations boks vs all blacks bloemfontein where he missed 3 penalties and a drop in the 1st half and was subbed.

    you have your favourites that you have a “blindspot” for eg CJ van der Linde, you’re not infallible.

  • Comment 50, posted at 24.10.11 17:42:54 by Megatron Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 49) : don’t play tricks chap… “We’ve had the most talented players selected pretty much all the time since White took over from Straueli, yes.”

    the point i was making to you is that you can’t discard some players because in your mind they don’t fit the mold of “rugby pedigree” you fantasise about.

    when you say “scoring tries” should be jettisoned in preference of whatever level of skills set you dream of then i HAVE to ask you, where in the history of successful rugby have team consisted of ONLY uber talented individuals?

  • Comment 51, posted at 24.10.11 17:46:46 by Megatron Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 51) : slow down boyks… you’re being an asshole again πŸ™‚

  • Comment 52, posted at 24.10.11 17:51:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 51) :

    Oh dear. I’m not even going to bother because you’re behaving like a real prick. There’s no debate… just an urge from your side to argue with me.

    And I can’t recall any WC winning sides recently who have gone in with back-threes who I wouldn’t call ‘very talented’.

  • Comment 53, posted at 24.10.11 17:56:03 by hendrikp Reply

  • I’m with Megatron here: rugby aint fantasy league, and while some players can be earmarked early, most of the time the things that decide success are invisible – like heart, commitment and the hunger to succeed.

    Ruan is an old Shark, but I also feel that he just didn’t have the drive to go with his talent – same as Brent Russel.

    Mvovo applied to the Sharks Academy on his own, and built his reputation from nothing – no Grey College pedigree or scout’s whispers. His success shows the kind of hunger and determination that I see in his eyes everytime he receives the ball – and that’s what makes a good winger.

    Sbu Sithole has some incredible physical talents, but its his mental strength and hunger that will determine if he becomes a star. Skills can be taught – but you need cojones to put in the time and effort, and back yourself all the way.

    NZ expect their wings to score tries – you don’t become an All Black wing cos you are “solid” and “dependable”, which is why I thought the Kiwi fascination with playing Sonny Bill wherever they could would cost them. But they saw reason in time.

  • Comment 54, posted at 24.10.11 17:56:08 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 54) :

    I’m not going to apologize for not writing Ruan off.

    I keep hearing all these things about him, but I still see a very gifted player who has had sweet F all opportunity.

    If you’re talented enough, which Ruan is, then you can make it work. He should be thereabouts.

    And I’m not a teammate of his, so I’ve got no reason to question his passion/hunger.

    If we’re going to start discarding our most talented players, then I’m really worried about how we’re expected to compete, especially at scrumhalf.

  • Comment 55, posted at 24.10.11 17:59:48 by hendrikp Reply

  • May Ruan finally be given a couple of starts in a row (in a Springbok jersey) and prove you all wrong.

    I’m out. C U all.

  • Comment 56, posted at 24.10.11 18:06:40 by hendrikp Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 52) : unfortunately that us the only language hendrik understands πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 57, posted at 24.10.11 18:08:12 by Megatron Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 55) :
    Come on; Gaffie was an incredibly talented player, so too Joe v Niekerk. Didn’t translate into sustainable success though.

    Rory Kockott doesn’t have the “class” Ruan does, but he kept him on the bench due to his consistency and competitiveness. Ricky January didn’t have Ruan’s talent, but until he discovered speed-dial for Mcdonalds he was a much more valuable scrumhalf.

    Talent is what you make of it – it gives you a leg up over the ordinary guy, but it isn’t a birthright.

    One of my favourite comparisons is between Gary Kirsten and Herschelle Gibbs. Gary didn’t have a quarter of the talent, but he had the resolve and the hunger – and boy did he make a contribution to SA cricket!

  • Comment 58, posted at 24.10.11 18:09:24 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 55) : i don’t recall anyone asking you to apologise for liking ruan to a fault…robbie deans just did the same thing now with cooper, he did the same thing with carlos spencer when he was mitchell’s backline coach, so you’re in illustrious company mate πŸ™‚

  • Comment 59, posted at 24.10.11 18:17:47 by Megatron Reply

  • @Big Fish (Comment 58) : dude, we’re on the same wavelength πŸ™‚

    the amusing thing is that hendrik is quite happy to dispense his opinion on mvovo as if it is annointed but catches feelings when one of his “favorites” ruan is given the same third degree treatment…gotta love it.

  • Comment 60, posted at 24.10.11 18:28:13 by Megatron Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 59) :
    One of my favourite blog comments of all time was when some wally on keo called Spencer a “tortured genius”. 😯

    Talk about melodrama! I was left wondering if he either cut of his own ear and gave it to a sheep or if he had been on Kamp Staaldraad.

  • Comment 61, posted at 24.10.11 18:29:46 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 58) : Makes a good point!

    And must say I agree with Megatron here ultimately but hendrikp has some thoughts worth entertaining.

    1.Pedigree is a cliche ,no such thing .Marcell Coetzee and Mcleod didnt even play craven week.
    2.We dont always select the best players, we select the right players -Bismarck John Smit
    3.Agree about hendrikps notion about form temp class forever and class will prove the difference

    @Megatron (Comment 60) : If Mvovo wasnt from ec would you react the same? not stiring just calling you to be introspective

  • Comment 62, posted at 24.10.11 18:57:15 by Talent Reply
  • @Big Fish (Comment 58) : Talent is what you make of it – it gives you a leg up over the ordinary guy, but it isn’t a birthright.

    One of my favourite comparisons is between Gary Kirsten and Herschelle Gibbs. Gary didn’t have a quarter of the talent, but he had the resolve and the hunger – and boy did he make a contribution to SA cricket!
    hit the nail on the head ,wise old man πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 63, posted at 24.10.11 18:59:56 by Talent Reply
  • @Talent (Comment 62) : hehehe yes my friend. the centre combo of doppies & mossie wasn’t the most naturally gifted but those two okes could bust a team open! mossie got picked by straeuli & was nurtured in the bok set up with as limited a skills set as he does. hendrikp’s fervent attacks on mvovo & basson are a pretext for him to punt the likes of sadie at wing…seen this movie before πŸ™‚

  • Comment 64, posted at 24.10.11 19:30:41 by Megatron Reply

  • @Big Fish (Comment 61) : hahaha funny guy :mrgreen:

  • Comment 65, posted at 24.10.11 19:32:03 by Megatron Reply

  • @Big Fish (Comment 58) : I’m afraid I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with your cricketing analogy – Hershelle Gibbs wrote a tell-all book that pissed off Graeme Smith; there’s no way Gary Kirsten’s contribution could top that!

  • Comment 66, posted at 24.10.11 19:44:15 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 66) :
    Point taken. πŸ˜‰

    In my opinion, Herchelle had the natural talent to include any batsmen in world cricket (I include guys like Lara and Sachin here), but he just never learnt to apply himself like they did – he never really had to.

    Seldom, if ever, have I seen any sportsman with such incredible hand-eye coordination and hand-speed.

    But then again, Herchelle was already a regular at clubs in CT when I first arrived here as a freshman in 1998, and I still see him doing the same thing in 2011.

  • Comment 67, posted at 24.10.11 21:42:48 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 66) : gary, now as coach can drop biff and THEN go on to win the world cup…that would be quite sumthin

  • Comment 68, posted at 24.10.11 21:56:24 by Megatron Reply

  • hendrik.do you recall the days jpp could not catch a ball yet hard work and continious selection helped him become great.

  • Comment 69, posted at 25.10.11 16:23:18 by juba_fan Reply


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