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Sharks change one on the bench


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 27 Oct 2011 at 12:59
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The Sharks team for the Currie Cup Final contains only one change on the bench, with Alistair Hargreaves replacing Jacques Botes.

Keegan Daniel captains a side in which 12 of the starting 15 are capped Springboks, with French international Fred Michalak also a seasoned Test player. Only Ross Skeate and Conrad Hoffmann are uncapped amongst the starting side. Hargreaves, Adrian Jacobs and Lwazi Mvovo, all on the bench, have also played test rugby in the past.

The need to include a backup lineout option sees Hargeaves come in, as predicted by Sharksworld yesterday, with 20-year-old Marcell Coetzee favoured over Botes for the backup loose forward role.

Keegan Daniel again captains the side, with Jean Deysel picked at lock, alongside Skeate, to make place for Willem Alberts at blind side flank. Ryan Kankowski completes the back row, while the front row of Tendai Mtawarira and the du Plessis brothers picks itself. Craig Burden and Eugene van Staden are the front row substitutes, with the former in particular sure to add much impetus in the second half.

Marius Joubert has recovered from an injury sustained in the semi-final and will continue at inside centre, a position where he was defensively very good against the Cheetahs. His performance, together with Stefan Terblanche, will be crucial in pressurising the Lions backs much as was the case when the sides met in Durban a fortnight ago. The back three of Pat Lambie, Odwa Ndungane and JP Pietersen again has a settled look, with dangerous runners in Jacobs and Mvovo to come on alter. Ross Cronje is the third backline replacement.

The Sharks

15. Patrick Lambie
14. Odwa Ndungane
13. Stefan Terblanche
12. Marius Joubert
11. JP Pietersen
10. Frederic Michalak
9. Conrad Hoffmann
8. Ryan Kankowski
7. Willem Alberts
6. Keegan Daniel (Captain)
5. Ross Skeate
4. Jean Deysel
3. Jannie du Plessis
2. Bismarck du Plessis
1. Tendai “Beast” Mtawarira

Replacements
16. Craig Burden
17. Eugene van Staden
18. Alistair Hargreaves
19. Marcell Coetzee
20. Ross Cronje
21. Adrian Jacobs
22. Lwazi Mvovo


191 Comments

  • That sucks! A loyal player like Jacques really deserves better treatment 🙄
    If he was actually playing like crap, it wouldve been understandable.

  • Comment 1, posted at 27.10.11 13:06:12 by JarsonX Reply
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  • That change makes sense, Al is a mobile lock so offers more of a benefit then Botes. Would have liked to see JLP on the bench! I just hope not having a kicker on the bench doesnt come to haunt the Sharks!

  • Comment 2, posted at 27.10.11 13:07:43 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Sorry for Botes.

  • Comment 3, posted at 27.10.11 13:08:22 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Comment 1) : I agree… Talk about deserving something… Wow he deserve to play in this game 😯

  • Comment 4, posted at 27.10.11 13:09:25 by Franshark Reply
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  • Our top try scorer of the CC gets to watch the final from the stands 🙄

  • Comment 5, posted at 27.10.11 13:10:28 by JarsonX Reply
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  • What the…??

  • Comment 6, posted at 27.10.11 13:11:04 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • I don’t agree with that change at all.
    Botes has every right to feel a little put out.

    Deysel, Skeate, Alberts. It’s not like we needed Line out players.

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.10.11 13:11:55 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 2) : No JLP…

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.10.11 13:12:05 by Charlie Reply

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  • The same thing happened last year when vetgat Swannie was selected ahead of Adi Jacobs.
    Plum is delusional! 🙄

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.10.11 13:13:04 by wpw Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 5) : 👿

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.10.11 13:14:04 by Charlie Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 2) : Not even close. If mobility was the issue then Botes would have been the obvious choice.

    Is Plumtree backing the youth in the wrong positions? 🙁

  • Comment 11, posted at 27.10.11 13:14:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 9) : 😈

  • Comment 12, posted at 27.10.11 13:14:30 by Charlie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 9) : pot…kettle… 😈

  • Comment 13, posted at 27.10.11 13:26:13 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • Plum’s ears are bigger than his brain 👿

  • Comment 14, posted at 27.10.11 13:26:29 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 11) : Plum had to include an out and out lock on the bench…if Skeate goes down then lineouts are a huge problem, and in finals you have to win your lineouts! Botes has been well average this year, yes he has scored a couple tries but if he is to make the side its not at the expense of a lock, it would be at the expense of Coetzee. And if I was coach id still include JLP in a final…he just has that touch that can change a game.

  • Comment 15, posted at 27.10.11 13:29:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 15) : The lack of touch. As in not touching the guy he is supposed to tackle.

    we have Michalak, Lambie and Terblanche who can kick we have enough kickers.

  • Comment 16, posted at 27.10.11 13:34:55 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • you guys are delusional…. sure Botes has scored tries this season, but his general play has been poor.

  • Comment 17, posted at 27.10.11 13:40:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • I can’t wait for this game! Going to shout my lungs out from the stands!!! Come on Sharks you can do it!

  • Comment 18, posted at 27.10.11 13:40:53 by G West Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 15) : A couple tries? 😯

    EIGHT, which just happens to be DOUBLE that of the player who has scored the 2nd most.

    8 tries in 15 matches is a damn good strike rate to leave out of the side.

  • Comment 19, posted at 27.10.11 13:41:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : Compared to Hargreaves he has been an ace though.

    Hargreaves has played 5 games all season and his last game was 5weeks ago. 🙁

  • Comment 20, posted at 27.10.11 13:44:49 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I see we have lost Mark Richards to the SA Sevens team.

  • Comment 21, posted at 27.10.11 13:45:07 by lostfish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 19) : How many of those tries were the result of the good work done by the rest of the pack? And are u really suggesting having only 1 lock in the entire side? Are u really suggesting that Terblanche kick for poles??

  • Comment 22, posted at 27.10.11 13:49:08 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) :
    Agreed.
    Also, we cant have what happened last weekend again where both the shorties, Daniel and Botes, were on at the same time and Kanko and Alberts were playing lock because there wasnt adequate lock cover.
    Botes must realise now that his tenure at the Sharks is coming to an end?
    I have more of a problem with that centre pairing and the fact that Mvovo isnt starting.

  • Comment 23, posted at 27.10.11 13:50:59 by John Galt Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 22) : How many of ANY team’s tries are as a result of good work done by the others in the team? That was a bit of a silly question you asked.

    Yes I AM really suggesting we go into this game with only one lock in the entire side. We won like that last week.

  • Comment 24, posted at 27.10.11 13:54:22 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 24) : That just proves my point that if its the team doing the good work then the individual actually putting the ball down doesnt matter. Only 1 lock? Geez i hope we dont kick the ball out then. If Skeate picks up a knock at the kickoff who is going to win lineout ball? Skeate has taken 95% of the Sharks lineout ball when it matters.

  • Comment 25, posted at 27.10.11 13:58:35 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 25) : How many locks did we have last week?

  • Comment 26, posted at 27.10.11 14:04:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 20) : but he is a lock, not a loose forward. We already have 5 loose forwards in the squad (and only one lock)

  • Comment 27, posted at 27.10.11 14:05:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 25) : Botes must be a well liked guy in the squad. I mean if it doesn’t really matter who puts the ball down, it’s really cool of the guys to let Botes score all the tries.

    Cabous and Tony Watson must have been REALLY well liked.

  • Comment 28, posted at 27.10.11 14:07:16 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : As we did last week. 🙂

  • Comment 29, posted at 27.10.11 14:07:58 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : We only won by 7 points, at home, against a worse side than the one we’ll play on Saturday…

  • Comment 30, posted at 27.10.11 14:09:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • The Lions haven’t won a CC outright at Ellispark since 1950! 😯

  • Comment 31, posted at 27.10.11 14:10:26 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 1) : In the past few days, we’ve realised that it really isn’t about what you deserve! 😀

  • Comment 32, posted at 27.10.11 14:12:44 by Letgo Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : I wonder if I would not rather have gone with Marais…at least he has had gametime?

  • Comment 33, posted at 27.10.11 14:12:46 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • I don’t understand some of you people you bitching about botes being left out really? Are you kidding me!? We complain so much about some old guys not pulling they weight or the need for younger players to be given a shot and backed to develope and here is plum doing exactly wat we ask and you still complain.”Botes deserves to be there,botes this botes that” shut up stefan terblanche is also a old head his shown loyalty but does he deserve to play this final? Answer is hell no and you kidding yourself if you disagree some young man should be in his position and stefan writing about it in the damn mecury not him on that field so please shut up the coach did the right thing nxa avenisidomu la niyahlanya nonke aga!

  • Comment 34, posted at 27.10.11 14:15:28 by Poisy Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : Keegan has been worse at times this season and Botes hasn’t had regular gametime and continuity. If Keegan wasn’t Captain this season, I would have called for him to be dropped a very long time ago.

    Having said that, it’s the right decision to have a backup lock.

  • Comment 35, posted at 27.10.11 14:16:06 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 34) : Oi Poisy…..chill a bit. No need for that type of language!

  • Comment 36, posted at 27.10.11 14:18:29 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : I totally agree with this you, and the team selection.

    Reckon it’s pretty much what was expected, not to say exactly what we wanted…especially when it comes to 12 and 13, would also have liked to see Mvovo start, but understand the need for Odwa’s safety under the high ball and defense…

    Think we can pull, or is that push, “the cat” back into the bag 🙂

  • Comment 37, posted at 27.10.11 14:18:57 by AlienArmy Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 36) : sorry but needed to be said some of you people are ridiculous

  • Comment 38, posted at 27.10.11 14:22:00 by Poisy Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 22) : if lambi and mich gets injured Bismark kan kick for all I care cause we’ll be in big sh…..

  • Comment 39, posted at 27.10.11 14:22:39 by Franshark Reply
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  • WTF are you guys on about?

    We have enough loosies and not enough line-out options in the starting XV – this is is a good decision, based on logic, and Botes will completely understand the selection decision.

    Its not about sentiment – its about winning.

  • Comment 40, posted at 27.10.11 14:23:06 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 34) : 😯 😳

  • Comment 41, posted at 27.10.11 14:24:55 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 38) :

    Look at my avatar and think happy thoughts! 😎

  • Comment 42, posted at 27.10.11 14:25:20 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 28) : Its not a matter of being liked but rather a position you fulfill and where you are on the field. The Sharks have scored mostly forward tries this year hence Botes has been there and there [email protected]KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : Last week the Sharks had 1 lock and if Skeate went down they would have been in poo! Look what happened when he left the field near the end! As if you look at last week, if Lambie’s kicking didnt come right then what would the Sharks have done?

  • Comment 43, posted at 27.10.11 14:25:28 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Logically, having additional lock cover rather than loose forward makes sense, particularly given that one of our starting locks is already a loosie. The more pertinent question should rather be whether Alistair H is the right choice as lock backup, given when last he played, plus the fact that he’s not really adept at covering the “tight” lock position.

  • Comment 44, posted at 27.10.11 14:26:14 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 34) : ja whatever, you don’t develop player in finals, thru the season yes…

  • Comment 45, posted at 27.10.11 14:27:39 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 38) : what do you mean “you people”? 🙂 hehe…kidding

  • Comment 46, posted at 27.10.11 14:28:08 by AlienArmy Reply

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  • @Franshark (Comment 39) : Bismark will probably get closer than Fred and Lambie’s first attempts last week!

  • Comment 47, posted at 27.10.11 14:28:42 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) : I think the stress is getting to me

  • Comment 48, posted at 27.10.11 14:29:55 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 44) :

    Agreed. I have no problem with having another lock option but why not Bresler or Marais.

  • Comment 49, posted at 27.10.11 14:30:09 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 21) : I wouldnt be at all surprised to see Richards turn up at the Lions as well in the near future.

  • Comment 50, posted at 27.10.11 14:30:19 by steve Reply

     
  • @SheldonK (Comment 47) : ja that’s for sure 😆

  • Comment 51, posted at 27.10.11 14:30:56 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 44) : I think plum is thinking that he would like to keep his side intact until the end which means that an enforcer lock is not really needed in the closing stages but rather a more mobile lock to cover the gaps on defense and get around the park.

  • Comment 52, posted at 27.10.11 14:31:11 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 48) : to all of us 😉

  • Comment 53, posted at 27.10.11 14:31:55 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 44) :

    I suppose both Deysel and Alberts can play the ‘tight’ lock role and that is why Hargreaves was preferred in case Skeate gets injured.

  • Comment 54, posted at 27.10.11 14:32:10 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 45) : its about backing the right person for the team not backing botes bcz his botes

  • Comment 55, posted at 27.10.11 14:32:15 by Poisy Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 52) : But what if you lose your enforcer lock at the start? I would’ve preferred Bresler or Marais, who are more along the Johan Muller “hybrid” lines, and seem quite mobile to me. Besides, if you want mobility only, Marcel Coetzee is your man.

  • Comment 56, posted at 27.10.11 14:36:52 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 54) : I still think bringing someone in cold who hasn’t played a match in ages is a big risk. Except if it’s Schalk Burger, possibly the 4th greatest Springbok of all time 😉

  • Comment 57, posted at 27.10.11 14:38:33 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 57) : pushing it a wee bit there

  • Comment 58, posted at 27.10.11 14:40:02 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 56) : I have a feeling Hargreaves got the nod ahead of them based on his experience, remember he is a Bok and did dominate Matfield in the Semi last year. With Alberts and Deysel in the team i dont think Plum is worried about the enforcer type lock but is worried about losing Skeate.

  • Comment 59, posted at 27.10.11 14:40:36 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 57) :

    That was just the way I think Plumtree was reasoning but I would have also played Bresler or Marais.

  • Comment 60, posted at 27.10.11 14:40:41 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 4) : They weren’t going to use him anyway. Did he deserve to sit on the bench for 79min and get on the field for one. Doesn’t make sense. If he deserved it, which of the looswforwards didn’t, because it just doesn’t make sense to start without a lock back-up. Especially when you already have only one on the field.

  • Comment 61, posted at 27.10.11 14:41:03 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 57) :

    So your selection would be

    1. Honiball
    2. Honiball
    3. ??
    4. Schalk

    Personally I would have picked.

    1. Jouba
    2. Gerber
    3. Honiball
    4. Bismarck

  • Comment 62, posted at 27.10.11 14:43:21 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 61) : thank you!!!!

  • Comment 63, posted at 27.10.11 14:43:29 by Poisy Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 15) : I don’t agree that Botes has been average though. I think he’s been better than Keegan, especially since Keegan’s season has been very patchy, and had Keegan not been captain, I would have preferred Botes most of the time.

    But for this situation it is best that Botes is left out.

  • Comment 64, posted at 27.10.11 14:45:16 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 44) :
    Spot on again. You on the gummyberry juice today? 😉

  • Comment 65, posted at 27.10.11 14:45:56 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 62) : whoa bismark really!? Why don’t you wait and see what he can achieve 1st his still soo young to be considerd that and not to mention you just gonna open the gate for chaz to nominate lambie 😛

  • Comment 66, posted at 27.10.11 14:47:01 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 57) : That’s true… I would not neccasarily have gone for Hargreaves, but definitly a lock of some sort. Bresler/Marias.

  • Comment 67, posted at 27.10.11 14:47:34 by Letgo Reply
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  • While most of the 60 odd comments are about Botes being left out… I want to comment on Mvovo on the bench. In short, Why? I know the back three are quite settled and wont let you down. But Mvovs has got that xfactor… Casting memory back to last years final, he scored an awesome try, and raked Aplon in from behind. Now he can’t get a starting spot?

  • Comment 68, posted at 27.10.11 14:48:17 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • What’s everone going on about anyway. Are we bored? Rob warned us about this days ago. This was the logical exclusion.

  • Comment 69, posted at 27.10.11 14:48:47 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 64) : I definitely agree with you that Keegan has been well average this year, and i dont think he should be captain! Watching the game live it did look like Joubert and Terblanche were making the decisions though. Botes hasnt been on form as well this year, but he has had less chances.

  • Comment 70, posted at 27.10.11 14:49:40 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 66) :

    I see Bismarck made the Re-union WC team although he probably played the least amount of rugby of the 15.

  • Comment 71, posted at 27.10.11 14:49:43 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 67) : Agree… specially Bresler. He’s physical, which is needed in a final

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 68) : he needs to learn to catch a ball 🙄

  • Comment 73, posted at 27.10.11 14:50:05 by Poisy Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 68) : He is on the bench basically because he will offer more off the bench as an impact than Odwa would. And if Plum wants them both then logic says Odwa must start.

  • Comment 74, posted at 27.10.11 14:51:41 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 68) : Odwa is still better, that’s why. Mvovo is potentially very dangerous, but when things get tight, a guy like Odwa will always be the better bet.

    He’s not going to knock, make 50/50 passes, get isolated make chip kicks and unnecessarily loose possession, not be as exciting, but rather be save and solid. Everything you need in a match like this. Plus I think he still has some moments of brilliance left in him.

  • Comment 75, posted at 27.10.11 14:52:45 by Letgo Reply
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  • If I was the coach 😎 … @Lock – Ali / Anton… @Flyhalf – Fred / Pat… @Wing Odders / Mvovs

  • Comment 76, posted at 27.10.11 14:53:08 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 71) : habana made that team last world cup look how useless he is now.all I’m saying give him some more years maybe he can even be the greatest bok ever instead of occupying number 4 on ur list

  • Comment 77, posted at 27.10.11 14:53:19 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 75) : Why did Mvovo play in last years final then? (I can’t recall if there was injury or what not)

  • Comment 78, posted at 27.10.11 14:54:34 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : Poor? I don’t think so. I still think if Plum had the guts to drop Keegan and play Botes with Deysel and Marcel, he would have looked much better than Keegan did with those two. But Keegan had to play, because he’s captain.

    In hind sight, I think we can all agree that he was not the right choice there, becuase I still think Botes brings more to a match 80min match at 6 than Keegan does.

    Keegan is the younger player, so obviuosly he needs to be given more time, but Botes would have performed better if he was given the oppertunity to play more.

  • Comment 79, posted at 27.10.11 14:59:10 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 62) :
    1) Honiball
    2) Honiball
    3) Gerber
    4) I don’t know; I’m relying on Hendrikp’s opinion here because despeite being a rotten, stinking Province supporter he seems quite passionate and knowledgeable about Bok rugby. I don’t pay enough attention to the details of Bok rugby to have an informed opinion, and I know nothing about some of the older players like Naas Botma and Vleis Visser and Duvet Serfontein 😉

  • Comment 80, posted at 27.10.11 15:00:26 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 65) : To paraphrase Wayne Coyne from the Flaming Lips: “Don’t *do* gummyberry juice, *be* the gummyberry juice!”

  • Comment 81, posted at 27.10.11 15:01:56 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 61) : it was fine last week, why not worry then, picking a guy for a final that has not played yet for so long…

  • Comment 82, posted at 27.10.11 15:01:59 by Franshark Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 78) : Good question, I think he was just preferred at the time…and if I can remember correctly (and I’m a woman so I probaly can) then Odwa was in and out of the team that year. He had a few niggles, as well as JPP. Ironically, I believe JPP got injured quite early on and Odwa played most of the final.

  • Comment 83, posted at 27.10.11 15:03:15 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 82) : Plum got the 100th cap out of the way. And it almost cost us with that last scrum, because he didn’t take Keegan of for Botes, which whould always be the sub. He also won’t take Keegan of since he’s the captain and shouldn’t play both Keegan and Botes at the same time. therefor, again… correct decision.

  • Comment 84, posted at 27.10.11 15:06:01 by Letgo Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 24) : Yes and if the team worked so well for tries, how come Botes got more than any other looseforward, even though he had less gametime than they did.

    i really don’t think it’s his gameplay that is costing him a place in the team, it’s plums captain choice.

  • Comment 85, posted at 27.10.11 15:11:54 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 84) : ok so let agree that we disagree 😉 I would have picked Botes

  • Comment 86, posted at 27.10.11 15:13:34 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 67) : @Pokkel (Comment 49) : that’s my thought too in comment 33

  • Comment 87, posted at 27.10.11 15:14:24 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 25) : I agree that we needed a lock on the bench, but not that Botes has been playing badly. He’s just the unlucky one.

  • Comment 88, posted at 27.10.11 15:17:37 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 86) : and I wouldn’t have minded. I like Botes. He’s actually a good guy too.

    My question is who would you have left out.

    And my follow up if applicable… do you really think it’s a good idea to go into any match let alone a final, with only one specialist lock?

  • Comment 89, posted at 27.10.11 15:19:22 by Letgo Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : Okay, but now I’d like to here from you. Don’t you think another lock would have been a better choice one of the locks that has been playing well all season?

  • Comment 90, posted at 27.10.11 15:21:19 by Letgo Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : I don’t think that was the reason!

  • Comment 91, posted at 27.10.11 15:22:23 by Letgo Reply
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  • if marius was injured why is he in the starting line up ahead of adi. When ever adi comes on for his 5min appearance its starting to get very uncomfortable to look at sober. People are not liking the fact that botes, long servant of sharks, but not a springbok, gets dropped for a younger player who is playing brilliantly. But how must adi feel? He was springbok center on merit yet gets dropped when playing well when he is on for an older player who is not 1 year with the sharks, who was injured last week and is not EVEN PLAYING WELL. Can i ask how many other provinces would start adi ahead of their centers besides WP? Then how many of those same provinces would start marius and stef ahead of their centers?

  • Comment 92, posted at 27.10.11 15:22:45 by cody007 Reply

     
  • …This is no time for glory boys…team work…when the pass is on, please pass the ball…

  • Comment 93, posted at 27.10.11 15:22:56 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 90) : I like Alistair. He’s a grafter and a good team man.

    You guys know I am especially fond of Anton too, but he’s a young man who has done admirably and his time will come. Right now, we need to go with the experienced player in a final and Ali is that guy.

  • Comment 94, posted at 27.10.11 15:25:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 94) : With all our moaning and groaning about player selection Plum has got this team into the final…so maybe we should give ourselves less credit and him a bit more! He may actually know what he is doing…

  • Comment 95, posted at 27.10.11 15:31:33 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 94) : I hear you, but remember, Ali will be coming off the bench and won’t have the luxury of time to get rid of any rust; it has to be 0 – 100 with immediate effect.

  • Comment 96, posted at 27.10.11 15:31:58 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 34) : I really don’t appreciate your lanuage. I don’t agree with your comment, which is fine, because that’s the point of a blog, but please would you refrain from swearing.

    If someone already mentioned this, I’m sorry for the repetition.

    On your comment. Botes does deserve it, but some other players deserve it more and the team needs a second lock.

    Stefan also deserves it, he’s played well this season and has been an important part of the Sharks team all season. There is no good reason to say any other player deserves a spot in this final more. Maybe they deserved a shot during the season, but Stefan’s would have been the first name I would have put down on this weekends teamsheet.

    He will be important in the final.

  • Comment 97, posted at 27.10.11 15:35:59 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 84) : I’m glad YOU at least read my article yesterday.

    Stuff the sentiment, Botes doesn’t have a role to play this week.

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 95) : +12

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 36) : @Letgo (Comment 97) : See someone already mentioned it. You’ll opinions will carry more weight if you can make them in a more sophisticated and intellectual manner anyway.

  • Comment 100, posted at 27.10.11 15:38:30 by Letgo Reply
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  • @ comment 1,

    Ross has not played a full game in any of the CC games (if memory serves me correct). He is going to be substituted in the second half and we have to replace him with a recognised lock.We cannot play Aberts as the number 5 jumper with Deysel packing in at 4. This is a CC final.You have to have at least 1 recognised lock.

    Personally, i am not even comfortable with the idea of playing Deysel at 4. It is the small things that will define the outcome in a final.

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  • @Letgo (Comment 97) : you’re right… I didn’t see that earlier. It’s over the top and I’ll censor it.

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  • @robdylan (Comment 98) : There’s the crux of the matter. It’s not that he does not deserve it. He does not have a role to play. Unfortunate, but true.

  • Comment 103, posted at 27.10.11 15:40:51 by Letgo Reply
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  • I see with all the Hargreaves vs Botes comments, Lambie not starting at 10/12 has yet to be mentioned? Just thought I’d throw it into the pot 😈

  • Comment 104, posted at 27.10.11 15:42:51 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 44) : And with that you said what I’ve been trying to say in about ten diffirent comments, just better! Thanks! 🙂

  • Comment 105, posted at 27.10.11 15:43:40 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 105) : That’s why I should try to play catch up when I missed the frist 40 comments! 🙂

  • Comment 106, posted at 27.10.11 15:45:25 by Letgo Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 52) : Good point. Our blogs are awesome!

  • Comment 107, posted at 27.10.11 15:47:10 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 57) : Also true. 😆

  • Comment 108, posted at 27.10.11 15:48:49 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 56) : Alberts covers enforcer.

  • Comment 109, posted at 27.10.11 15:49:34 by Letgo Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 104) :
    We Already knew that Lambie will start at 15. Botes is a bit of a suprise ommision. And something new to talk about, after weeks of just Lambie!

  • Comment 110, posted at 27.10.11 15:50:46 by Letgo Reply
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  • Some trivia on the schooling origins of the players in the teams for Saturday’s final.
    Grey College and Michaelhouse each have four players
    Grey – Jannie and Bismark (Sharks) and CJ and Alwyn Hollenbach (Lions)
    Michaelhouse – Pat Lambie, Ross Cronje and Pat Cilliers and Mike Rhodes
    A number of schools have a player in each side;
    Port Natal – Marcel Coetzee and Doppies La Grange
    Maritzburg College –Craig Burden and Butch james
    Monnas – Wim Alberts and jaco Taute
    Dale College –Bandisi Maku and Keegan Daniel
    Paarl Gym – Marius Joubert and Jacobie Adriaanse
    There may be a few othesr that I have missed

  • Comment 111, posted at 27.10.11 15:51:39 by steve Reply

     
  • @SheldonK (Comment 95) : Maybe we would have done it with more ease. 😉

  • Comment 112, posted at 27.10.11 15:54:04 by Letgo Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 94) : Rob, I don’t think Al would let us down. I’ve also always thought he’s a better player than he has been given credit for. Lock is not the easiest position in the world to stand out int (not laterally) and if you do, you’re probably not even doing the right things.

    I’m happy with the selection. Plum is staying calm. All of us, we’re to emotional. He’s staying cool. It’s a tough thing to do, drop a player for the final like that, but it had to be done.

  • Comment 113, posted at 27.10.11 15:57:15 by Letgo Reply
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  • See how I can keep a conversation going all on my own.

    It’s a talent really! 😎

  • Comment 114, posted at 27.10.11 15:58:49 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 114) : Have fun!

  • Comment 115, posted at 27.10.11 16:00:18 by Pokkel Reply
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  • So question – if anyone’s out there!

    We’ve al aired some concerns about the match 22, but who thinks this will have an influence on the result.

    I think this team will take the Lions… easy! 😈

  • Comment 116, posted at 27.10.11 16:01:21 by Letgo Reply
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  • Interesting stat: For the 2011 Currie Cup final, on the thread listing the Sharks matchday 22, 12 of the 16 posts after post 100 were made by Letgo.

    I have NO idea how that compares to 2010. 😆

  • Comment 117, posted at 27.10.11 16:03:55 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 116) :

    My biggest fear is that the wrong Freddie pitches up on the day and if the wrong Freddie does pitch up I hope Plum has the guts to take him of as soon as possible and put Lambie at 10. Luckily we have more than enough fullback cover in Stef, Odwa and if needed JPP.

  • Comment 118, posted at 27.10.11 16:04:06 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 118) : My biggest fear is that over the last 8 years that the Whisky Bible has been published, only twice has the Liquid Gold list been topped by Scottich Whisky; have we been drinking the wrong stuff? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 119, posted at 27.10.11 16:06:44 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 119) :

    I don’t know but one thing I know for sure is that the single malts outshine the blends by some distance. 😉

  • Comment 120, posted at 27.10.11 16:08:04 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 117) : she has a tendency of not giving us a chance to air our opinion! 😈 😉

  • Comment 121, posted at 27.10.11 16:09:05 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • Sjoe!! Some heated debate going on here. Here’s some of my opinions. Most of the time they wrong but just in case.

    1) People complaining the JLP should have been in a team in case we lose a kicker. Freddie, Lambie, Stef and even Hoffman can kick!! How many kickers do you want in a team?

    2) How good is Jean Deysal at competing at the breakdown and at turnovers? The reason I ask this is, the Lions have been really good at this part of the game. The whole cliche that game is won up front is slowly changing, to the game is won at the breakdown. Springbok vs Australia in the quarter-finals comes to mind, if we ignore for a second the cataracts in Bryce Lawrence’s eyes.

    Derick Minnie will give us all sort of problems if the Sharks are not wary in this area of the game. Plus Doppies and his WWE experience helps the Lions contest the Breakdown to a higher degree.

    Last year the Sharks delt with the Western Mountaineers quite easily when the country was still obsessed about fetchers and the lack of them. Many a arrogant Province supporter used to tell me, “Ja but the Saarks don’t have an out and out fetcher”. Well Province went out and out of the final. In that game we didn’t need a fetcher and relied on some clever cleaning at the breakdowns and one Meneer Bismarck. Remember McLOeds try? Originated from the a turnover by the Meneer himself.

    The reason why I bring this up is what happens if Bismarck gets injured? How good has Keagan, Deysal or Marcels been at the breakdown. To me they all great ball carriers. I know pre-injury Deysal used to be quite good at it. However I am not sure if he has been this season and Plum has turned him into a replacement for Alberts. If the
    game as my prediction will be won or lost at the breakdown, with what was written above, the sharks would not go wrong with Botes instead of Marcel on the bench.

  • Comment 122, posted at 27.10.11 16:12:06 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Ice Ice Bokkie (Comment 121) :

    Now that we give Letgo something to think about she disappears. ❓

    Maybe she prefers talking to herself 😉

  • Comment 123, posted at 27.10.11 16:14:59 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 119) : now i feel like having a wee dram of Glen Grant. 🙂

    Phuza Thursday!

  • Comment 124, posted at 27.10.11 16:27:31 by Megatron Reply

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  • It is close to an impossible call to make.

    On paper the Sharks are by far the strongest team but apart from patches this team has not nearly performed to its potential – they seem to have the same sickness WP has in that regard.

    Finals are all about cliches, the ‘who wants it more’ and the ‘the team that makes the least mistakes’ will be quoted to death before kick off.

    For my money three things will win this final.

    1) The been there done that factor vs. stage fright

    2) Home crowd and home ground ref bias advantage which will always favour the local team.

    3) Bloody mindedness.

    I give this two out of three for the Lions which is why I back them to take it.

    None of these Lions knows what it feels like to win a CC, they will be supercharged and super desperate.

    The only thing that could derail them is stage fright and nerves.

    For the Sharks, if they can force control over the Lions and choke them out of the game through scoreboard pressure (meaning taking every point that’s on offer every single time) they will retain this.

    Finals rugby, you got to love it.

  • Comment 125, posted at 27.10.11 16:32:22 by Morné Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 109) : alberts DEFINES enforcer.

  • Comment 126, posted at 27.10.11 16:34:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • Where’s Botes 🙄

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 78) : Pietersen was out

  • Comment 128, posted at 27.10.11 16:37:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 125) : 😯

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 117) : 😆

  • Comment 130, posted at 27.10.11 16:40:00 by Letgo Reply
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  • i can guarantee at least 3 penalties from jean deysel for diving into a ruck or not entering through the gate! 🙂

  • Comment 131, posted at 27.10.11 16:40:45 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 122) : except Botes isn’t a fetcher either…

  • Comment 132, posted at 27.10.11 16:41:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 122) : 😀

  • Comment 133, posted at 27.10.11 16:41:46 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 131) : yes… I fear you may be right

  • Comment 134, posted at 27.10.11 16:43:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • It’s a shame that we can’t play the final twice, Botes in one and once without him 😈

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  • @JarsonX (Comment 129) :

    Yup, I call a Lions win! Should make you folks quite happy actually!

  • Comment 136, posted at 27.10.11 16:47:39 by Morné Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 119) : @Pokkel (Comment 120) : 😆

  • Comment 137, posted at 27.10.11 16:51:20 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 136) : are you also the “kiss of death”? 😆

  • Comment 138, posted at 27.10.11 16:51:35 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ice Ice Bokkie (Comment 121) : Hey, watch it. 🙂

  • Comment 139, posted at 27.10.11 16:52:00 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 136) : I’m shocked not because you call a Lions win but because you made an appearance 😉

  • Comment 140, posted at 27.10.11 16:52:27 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 138) :

    Yup – my record for picking winners in finals is shocking!

  • Comment 141, posted at 27.10.11 16:53:40 by Morné Reply
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  • The best TEAM will win, with or without the best individuals.

  • Comment 142, posted at 27.10.11 16:54:20 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 122) : The Boss showed up. 😯

  • Comment 143, posted at 27.10.11 16:54:27 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 125) : dude… you’re giving this to the Lions based on “bloody-mindedness”?

    Come on 🙂

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  • @JarsonX (Comment 140) :

    Hell dude have been crazy busy thanks to RWC rugby in the last 3 months. But I have always browsed whenever I had the chance!

  • Comment 145, posted at 27.10.11 16:55:33 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 125) : 👿 You make an appearance to say that. 😐

  • Comment 146, posted at 27.10.11 16:56:17 by Letgo Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 144) :

    I did not want to use and over-used cliche! 😆

    But I do question the Sharks commitment on how much they ‘really’ want this.

  • Comment 147, posted at 27.10.11 16:57:45 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 145) : Welcome back then :mrgreen:

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  • è@JarsonX (Commaent 140) : I just LOVE Morne for calling a Lions win!!! Whooooohoooooooo! 😀

  • Comment 149, posted at 27.10.11 17:00:04 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 148) :

    Thanks! Feels good to be back!

  • Comment 150, posted at 27.10.11 17:00:52 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 147) : I share your concern, deep within the blackest vestiges of my soul.

    They’re a funny bunch, when it comes to the top 2 inches.

  • Comment 151, posted at 27.10.11 17:02:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 146) :

    Don’t worry won’t disappear again soon!

    @Ice Ice Bokkie (Comment 149) :

    I knew I would make your day!

    And as a general note – I hope all of you are well, good to see all the familiar names again.

  • Comment 152, posted at 27.10.11 17:02:56 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 150) : and it’s good to have you back (goes without saying!)

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  • @robdylan (Comment 151) :

    Ja dude, for some reason this has always been the problem with the Sharks (and WP for that matter) – those top two inches.

    And by that not meaning they are dof of course – simply meaning desire and how they apply that.

    Mental application.

    Sharks does not seem to be comfortable carrying ‘favourites’ tags around even when it is clear with all their Boks and experience they clearly are.

    They love being written off like last year which was clear given Stefan’s speech just before accepting the trophy.

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  • But then again, as I said in my opening line of my opening post – almost impossible to call this final, which will just add to the theatre of it all!

  • Comment 155, posted at 27.10.11 17:11:42 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 154) : you’re STILL on about tat speech, hey? 🙂

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  • @Morné (Comment 152) : Nice to have u back! Impeccable timing! 😆

  • Comment 157, posted at 27.10.11 17:20:17 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 156) :

    Can never forget that!

    @Ice Ice Bokkie (Comment 157) :

    As always!

  • Comment 158, posted at 27.10.11 17:45:20 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 158) : Good to see you back Morne.

  • Comment 159, posted at 27.10.11 18:01:10 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 159) :

    Thanks Ben, sorry for being absent for too long.

  • Comment 160, posted at 27.10.11 18:08:56 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 160) : Yeah jeez these other Province supporters in here are far too biased! 😆 😉

  • Comment 161, posted at 27.10.11 18:13:43 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 161) :

    I will haul them in with immediate effect! 😈

    I mean read the bloody label upon entering the site!

  • Comment 162, posted at 27.10.11 18:15:41 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 162) : Exactly! We have to keep reading that Kolisi is better than Marcell Coetzee, Duane Vermeulen is the next Bok captain and Schalk Burger is the 2nd best Springbok of all time! 😆

  • Comment 163, posted at 27.10.11 18:20:20 by Ben Reply
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  • we need freddy to have a good game and dictate play, and if that isnt working we need plum to have the balls to pull him off early and move lambie to flyhalf

  • Comment 164, posted at 27.10.11 18:24:28 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 152) : Nooooooo!!! Go away!!!! We were just getting the pesky Province supporters under control!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 165, posted at 27.10.11 18:25:22 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 164) : I’m a bit more worried about Conrad Hoffman! His decision making from the platform will be key to winning us this game.

  • Comment 166, posted at 27.10.11 18:26:44 by Ben Reply
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  • If I had to break it down.

    Tight 5 – Sharks
    Loose Forwards – Sharks
    9 and 10 – Sharks only just
    Centres – Lions
    Back 3 – Sharks

    Unfortunately this is not how rugby works. These okes are gonna have to gell together as a team. Which is what won us the Currie Cup last year.

  • Comment 167, posted at 27.10.11 18:30:29 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 167) : and I am sure they will!

  • Comment 168, posted at 27.10.11 18:36:53 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • Welcome back Morne! And thank you for the vote of no confidence – much appreciated! Finally all the omens now point to a Sharks win. 😀

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  • @Ben (Comment 163) :

    Okay let me bring balance immediately! 😆

    Kolisi needs to play proper rugby at the right level for me to be convinced of the messiah messages.

    Vermeulen in my opinion is still overrate.

    Schalk, brilliant player, shit captain.

    @Culling Song (Comment 165) :

    Wes and Claytie – they are little pussy cats – I am surprised it took you so long! 😈

    @vanmartin (Comment 169) :

    Just doing my duty to give you okes hope… 😀

  • Comment 170, posted at 27.10.11 19:01:40 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 170) : Finally sense prevails.

  • Comment 171, posted at 27.10.11 19:04:58 by Ben Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 170) : Mollie gaan jou [email protected]!! 😆

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  • @Ice Ice Bokkie (Comment 172) :

    Mols is a sensible WP supporter – would never include her in the company of Wes and Claytie!

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  • @Morné (Comment 173) : But calling Vermeulen overate??? U have troubles!

  • Comment 174, posted at 27.10.11 19:13:23 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • So every time I leave, everyone shows up. What’s up with that.

  • Comment 175, posted at 27.10.11 19:18:43 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Ice Ice Bokkie (Comment 174) :

    My own brother gives me shit for calling Vermeulen overrated – I’ll take on Moll’s! 😈

  • Comment 176, posted at 27.10.11 19:20:02 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 152) : Yes, good to have you back, I was wondering where you are.

  • Comment 177, posted at 27.10.11 19:22:30 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 176) : I am in your platoon! 😆

  • Comment 178, posted at 27.10.11 19:22:37 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 177) :

    Always around lady, just very occupied in the last 3 months!

    @Ice Ice Bokkie (Comment 178) :

    I will rally my Sharks army against my own kind then! 😆

  • Comment 179, posted at 27.10.11 19:33:26 by Morné Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 122) : Oh, I wanted to reply to this:

    1) I don’t think anyone really expected JLP to be selected now, but I think now that we’re at the end of the season, we’re wondering why he hasn’t been used more and why was he not integrated into the team, to the point that at least Plum could have been confident enough to have a player like that on the bench. Not bad cover if you ask me.

    2)I think Deaysel can steal the odd ball and Bismark has made it known that he has worked really hard on this aspect of his game and I think it shows. I don’t think he has to stand back to most other fetchers, he would just have to learn when to hold back and when to go for it. He’s also not as mobile as the traditional fetcher (usually loosies) and therefore won’t get the opportunity to pinch as many, but in Deysel and Bissie as a team, I think we’re covered in this area.

    The thing we should be more concerned about is how we protect our own ball and I think that will be much more important than actually steeling the oppositions ball. This is where the Sharks has been lacking not just specific to this season, but actually for quite some time now.

    It was only when Plum put specific emphasis on this during the 2010 Currie Cup season that we saw a change (the hand in ball style we started playing) I think Plum has lost sight of that during this season. There’s so many things that goes into maintaining possession and we perfected (or achieved it) during that season. I just hope some of it stuck with the team.

    We did it in the second half of the Cheetahs game. It’s a beautiful thing to witness.

  • Comment 180, posted at 27.10.11 19:38:53 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 179) : Well nice to have you back, I hope this means we’ll get an extra super long article from you soon, to make up for all the time lost. 😀

  • Comment 181, posted at 27.10.11 19:41:18 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 181) :

    Bank on it, got lots to say too!

  • Comment 182, posted at 27.10.11 19:42:51 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 182) : An opinion piece on who’s best suited to be the next Springbok coach would be awesome. It’s bound to get some good debate going in the comments.

  • Comment 183, posted at 27.10.11 20:26:06 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Nice to have you back Morne.

    Thanks for the bad juju on the Lions. 😉

  • Comment 184, posted at 27.10.11 20:49:11 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 183) :

    Got one on rugby and its future in general – one on SA Rugby and how we should plot the next 8 years, and one on rugby laws and refs and how we should stop blaming the oke with the whistle and support him.

    All after the final – that is most important for now!

    @Big Fish (Comment 184) :

    I need to give you okes some hope – I mean you are trying hard enough convincing each other why you are going to lose so an outsider will just make it easier! 😆

  • Comment 185, posted at 27.10.11 20:55:39 by Morné Reply
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  • Any event, night all, chat pre-and -post final again.

  • Comment 186, posted at 27.10.11 21:15:21 by Morné Reply
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  • Good luck Sharks.

    Winning the Currie Cup is nice. But I want the Sharks to do better in the Super rugby.

    Speaking of which… is Plumtree the right man to lead the Sharks all the way in Super rugby?

    Super rugby results under Plumtree have been rather mediocre.

    2008 – 3rd
    2009 – 6th
    2010 – 9th
    2011 – 6th

    It would be interesting to know the views of others on this.

  • Comment 187, posted at 27.10.11 21:55:26 by siorc Reply

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  • 😯
    Morne, I don’t have words for you buddy! I really don’t! 😉

  • Comment 188, posted at 27.10.11 22:02:11 by wpw Reply
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  • If I can put my foot in it……
    I don’t know why the argument is about Al above Botes. I don’t have an issue with the xtra lock, but would have included Botes before Marcell solely for finals experience. I would also like to see Botes’ stats on ruck attendance, turnovers made and tackles made (along the fringes) compared to Coetzee. The reason I say this, is because we are going to have our hands full with Minnie and Strauss. IF Plum has plans with the bigger players neutralising them at breakdowns, then I would understand the selection of Coetzee over Botes.

  • Comment 189, posted at 27.10.11 22:49:21 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • love to see all the old faces, on the blog…. welcome back….

  • Comment 190, posted at 27.10.11 23:09:23 by Franshark Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 68) : Mvovo > Odwa.
    People that say odwa is so reliable,I do not know because usually when he is tackled it is a turn over ball.
    If I were Mvovo I would leave the sharks then we can have Odwa in the starting spot for another 5 years 🙄

  • Comment 191, posted at 27.10.11 23:11:03 by Honey Badger Reply

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