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Big things to come: Sharksworld chats to Johan Meyer


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks on 30 Dec 2011 at 10:55
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It’s that time of year when a hand-picked group of talented schoolboys up and down the country prepare to make their way down to Durban to start their new lives as Sharks Academy students. For big Queens College number 8, Johan Meyer, this is a journey that’s been almost two years in the making and one that he simply can’t wait to get started with. Sharksworld caught up with him for a quick chat.

Johan tells us that he’s currently spending some quality time with his girlfriend – and eagerly awaiting his Matric results – having opted to forego the typical “matric holiday” in order to spend more time in the gym, preparing for life as a professional rugby player. “I think the results are coming out on about the 4th,” he tells us, “and I’m a little nervous! I’m planning on studying BCom Marketing at the Academy next year”.

Johan MeyerWe asked him to tell us a little about his background and how he got started with rugby. “I was born in Port Elizabeth on 26 Feb 1993. I was at Hangklip Junior until grade 6 then I moved to Hudson Park Primary in grade 7 and at the beginning of grade 9 I started at Queens College.” Johan says that rugby has always been a big part of his life. “My dad played for Border schools in 1978 and I’m even a distant relative of [Bulls centre] Wynand Olivier! I started playing bulletjie rugby when I was 8 and rugby has always been my greatest passion.”

Johan has played at loose forward pretty much his whole life. “Well I always played flank until u/13 then I moved to 8 the next year. I really enjoyed playing 8th man as I could just pick up from the base whenever I was able to and I use my pace to the team’s advantage.” Johan tells us he’s relatively quick for a forward, with a best 100m time of 11.2 seconds. “I don’t like athletics much”, he goes on to add, “I prefer to train on a rugby field!”

Johan rose quickly through the ranks at Queens, playing for the first team starting in his grade 10 year. He has also represented Border at u/13, u/16 (Grant Khomo) and u/18 Craven Week level, making the latter side in both his grade 11 and grade 12 years. “I was also selected to the SA Schools Sevens squad, which was a big honour.” He tells us that the Sharks identified him pretty early on, saying “they saw me play at the Kearsney College festival and offered me a contract at the start of my grade 11 year. I had other options to go to the Bulls and maybe also the Lions, but I wanted to go to Durban because of the great opportunities for a young player there. I look at a guy like Pat Lambie and how well he’s done at such a young age – that’s a big inspiration.”

Johan’s immediate goals are to make the under 19 team and hopefully break through into under 21 – or maybe even Currie Cup – rugby soon after that. He believes he has the physical attributes and at 1.94m and 106kg (at just 18!) he’s certainly already about the perfect size for a modern number 8. “I have the speed and I can think quickly on my feet. Also have a decent handoff,” he quips, “but possibly my strongest attribute is how committed I am, how badly I want to do well. I still have a lot of things to work on, mostly the more physical stuff, hitting rucks, getting more involved all over the field, not just with ball in hand. That’s what I need to develop more to be an all-round player.”

And who does he rate as the sort of “all-round” number 8 that he aspires to be like? “I’d have to say Pierre Spies and Ryan Kankowski are the guys who I look up to,” he says, but adds quickly, “but Ryan is better at the moment, of course!” We’d like to thank Johan for his time and wish him all the best for the great adventure that lies ahead.


59 Comments

  • right… cue beet and Muzi who should now fill us in with 100 comments about what the guy has done over the last 5 years.

  • Comment 1, posted at 30.12.11 10:58:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • β€œI’d have to say Pierre Spies and Ryan Kankowski are the guys who I look up to,”

    Poor kid doesn’t stand a chance

  • Comment 2, posted at 30.12.11 11:01:07 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 2) : now now, there’s still room for skillful 8s in the modern game… πŸ™‚

  • Comment 3, posted at 30.12.11 11:01:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 1) : Nope, just me :mrgreen:

    Muzi will be along to tell us how awesome he could be if he had chosen the bulls.

  • Comment 4, posted at 30.12.11 11:02:18 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : Yeaha yeah, in the 7s teams

  • Comment 5, posted at 30.12.11 11:03:01 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • Oh and thanks for chatting to the site Johan, if you are reading this im only pulling the …. a little.

  • Comment 6, posted at 30.12.11 11:07:01 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 6) : what a way to ruin a potentially beautiful friendship πŸ™‚ You’re as bad as oubaas!

  • Comment 7, posted at 30.12.11 11:14:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : I try 😎

  • Comment 8, posted at 30.12.11 11:25:06 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 4) : He will tell you that he would be the next Bok if he went to the Bulls 😈

  • Comment 9, posted at 30.12.11 11:55:26 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 9) : that he should already be a Bok πŸ™‚

  • Comment 10, posted at 30.12.11 12:17:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • When it comes to E/Cape schools Muzi and I take a far back seat to young Ludz who is the foremost authority on the topic of EC schools rugby and could probably write a book about the instrumental role that his classmate Johan Meyer has played in just about every single Queens College 1st team game.

    I will limit my useless bit of background info to the fact that the last time Johan played at Kearsney was in his gr.10 year in 2009 and not in gr.11. :mrgreen:

    Border schools and EP schools don’t have an u16 age group team, so it’s not uncommon for talents like Johan to be fast-tracked to the 1st team in gr.10 (something that’s very rarely seen here in KZN schools rugga as we do field u16 teams – oops sorry that was more useless info wasn’t it :mrgreen:). Perhaps this extra year of exposure to 1st team rugby is a leading reason for
    continuously Border churning many top notch players.

    For Johan β€œPlank”, I would like to say welcome to the Sharks. I’m really looking forward to seeing you in action at Kingspark in 2012. I know of a couple of people who have been following rugby in the E/Cape for decades, who are not afraid to say that you are right up there with the best that the region has ever produced. SBR success doesn’t always translate to success at senior level but I think with the pedigree you bring, chances are extremely good that you gonna make the leap to pro rugby with comfort. All the best.

    And well done to the Sharks and Academy officials that scouted and managed to sign Johan ahead of the very proactive Bulls scouts and the Lions. Good work guys!

  • Comment 11, posted at 30.12.11 12:22:12 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 11) : Beeto, he didn’t say he played there in grade 11… he said that they saw him there and offered him a contract at the start of grade 11! So it actually corresponds exactly with what you’re saying πŸ™‚

  • Comment 12, posted at 30.12.11 12:25:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : Oops. My bad! 😳

  • Comment 13, posted at 30.12.11 12:30:22 by beet Reply
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  • On behalf of my friend Muzi, I would like to issue this formal statement:
    β€œWe the Bulls will not miss Johan! We have Roelof Smit. Roelof is the beez neez! He is better than Johan. I will not be surprised to see Roelof bypass the u19 team completely and start every single game for the u21s next year. We also have Mabuza who is quicker than Johan. And although he is not a loose forward, it’s worth noting for the record that we have also signed Jan Serfontein. No matter who the Sharks acquire, you do not have Jan Serfontein. The reason being, we, the Bulls have Jan Serfontein!”

    Apologies there should also be a million β€œmrgreen’s” in there somewhere.

  • Comment 14, posted at 30.12.11 12:32:33 by beet Reply
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  • Great signing and good luck Johan! If the Sharks sign Carel Swart next year you are going to have some serious competition for that 8 jersey from him. I believe he runs the hundred in 11 flat on grass! Competition is good though!

  • Comment 15, posted at 30.12.11 12:41:07 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) : my bad

  • Comment 16, posted at 30.12.11 12:52:40 by lostfish Reply
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  • Welcome Johan.

    With that phsyique and an 11.2 second 1oom, you have the makings of either a great loosie or a great outside back.

  • Comment 17, posted at 30.12.11 12:58:50 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Welcome to Sharktown Johan!

    Although Rob says 106kg is perfect πŸ˜† , i know you will be looking to go to at least 114kg, hey πŸ˜‰ Good BMI for a fast 8th man at 1.94m.

  • Comment 18, posted at 30.12.11 13:03:42 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 18) : we don’t need them all to be clones of Alberts, regardless of what Plumtree thinks.

  • Comment 19, posted at 30.12.11 13:45:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • About time we get this interview done,what more can I say the big man said it all himself,just watch and be amazed. Still say he should’ve been ahead of Ruan Steenkamp as SA Schools 8thman p.s look at that beautiful badge on his jersey,QUEEN’S FOREVER!!!!

  • Comment 20, posted at 30.12.11 13:53:22 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 20) : ha ha… glad you liked it πŸ™‚

  • Comment 21, posted at 30.12.11 13:56:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 14) : :mrgreen: funny guy!

  • Comment 22, posted at 30.12.11 14:17:35 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ludz, looking forward to the Glenwood vs Queens game at Kearsney in 2012. Watch out for Carel Swart at No8, a machine and SA Schools candidate for sure. If he goes to the Sharks then Johan will have some stiff competition for sure…Glenwood forever! Go Green!

  • Comment 23, posted at 30.12.11 14:53:45 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 20) : Hey Ludz. How did your journey into the bush go? Have you made a decision yet – UPE vs UJ? πŸ™‚

  • Comment 24, posted at 30.12.11 15:27:55 by beet Reply
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  • @Ludz (Comment 20) :

    He looks a heck of a prospect, and has the right dimensions to go far. Lets hope he does not prove to be a Adrian Theisinger type guy who is talked of and then never really comes to fruition.
    Any reason why Meyer wasnt invited or did not go to U20 trials?
    I think Steenkamp will need to switch to openside flank or hooker as he is too short to be an 8. Good player though.

  • Comment 25, posted at 30.12.11 15:56:29 by Pat Reply

     
  • Beet,only going home next week Wednesday,but everything is good,enjoyed every minute of my initiation up to now. One of the things that make me proud to be Xhosa,so yeah am in white ochre at this moment. Decided to go to PE,I just get the feeling that big things await PE,so I want to stay Coastal for just couple more years. Johannesburg is way too inland for me at this point. Another thing being an only son at home,have to be closer to home more especially with my dad passing earlier this year. @Pat,you know I always think the selection of CJ Stander as SA Schools 8thman in 08 ahead of Theisinger absolutely crushed Adriaan mentally and he never recovered,hope that doesn’t happen to Plank @Grassy,Carel is a damn good player,don’t know what he was doing at lock,definitely not his natural position,gonna be a cracker of a game

  • Comment 26, posted at 30.12.11 18:25:02 by Ludz Reply

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  • http://www.rugby365.com/tournaments/magners/news/2833224.htm

  • Comment 27, posted at 31.12.11 05:00:11 by Uli Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 19) : Johan would need to weigh around 125kg to be the same BMI as Willem, because he is 1.94m. So i am not being unresonable saying that 114kg would be a good weight for a powerful, but fast number 8.

    I tend to agree with Plum,though. πŸ™‚ Although i think Coetzee is the ultimate all round loose forward, he will probably be around 110kg by the start of the next season. Speed, size, power and effective enough at the breakdown.

  • Comment 28, posted at 31.12.11 09:51:58 by JJR Reply
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  • JJ, having now completed the process of coaching all the flair out of Kankowski’s game, Plumtree has already made a fair amount of progress in doing the same to Coetzee. Smash, crash, bash all day long with no imagination or creativity and certainly no variation or alternative.

  • Comment 29, posted at 31.12.11 10:21:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) :
    Spot on.

  • Comment 30, posted at 31.12.11 10:58:46 by Big Fish Reply
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  • 110kg for a No8 seems a bit too big, what happened to the days of the Number 8 being quick and agile. Tiaan Strauss was only 6foot2 and 100kg, Gary Teichmann was 6foot5 and 100kg…..too much muscle mass is not good for a loose forward. Maybe I am wrong, but I would like to see more skills, agility and speed in the backrow than just brute force like this modern age….

  • Comment 31, posted at 31.12.11 11:07:44 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • What is spies ,103kg and 194? @Grasshopper (Comment 31) : as long as speed and functionality are not compromised its essential in todays game.

  • Comment 32, posted at 31.12.11 11:23:29 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent, that is exactly my point, it is compromised. I remember going to Collegians Under21 trials and the coach said to me 6 months prior, please bulk up from 95kg to 105kg as a flank, so I did. I looked ripped and muscley but at the trials I just was not quick enough to rucks etc anymore (my previous strength). I had sacrifised my speed for bulk. I was an average player though and probably would not have played Under21A anyway but the extra bulk did not help my cause. Other players might be able to get away with that extra size. To me an ideal No8 at senior level is 6foot4 and 105kg! At Under 19 maybe 10kg lighter…….just my opinion though..

  • Comment 33, posted at 31.12.11 13:05:54 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : It’s because Coetzee has been placed in the seven role, we have not seen him at 8, yet.

    Kankowski is the one who runs with the ball on the field,not plum. Keegan has license to do what he wants, i am sure Kankowski is not expected to bash it up when Bizzie, Beast, Alberts, Deysel and Coetzee are around. Kankowski spends all day running side ways, so i think Plum must have just told him run straight πŸ™‚

  • Comment 34, posted at 31.12.11 13:58:37 by JJR Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 32) : Spies was 110kg when he was at the World Cup.

  • Comment 35, posted at 31.12.11 13:59:26 by JJR Reply
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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 31) : The current succesful number 8’s have been 110kg or above. Read, Palu, Alberts, O’brein, etc. The guys that weigh less tend to be less consistent as their game is based on speed and space(one on one’s). Space is not always available at the top level. Look at keegan/kankowski….plays his best when he has space, when there isn’t there form drops dramatically. Keegan’s commitment will never drop one notch though…always playing fullout πŸ˜‰

    Ultimately it is about the balance; i think Marcell Coetzee, Alberts and Sean O’Brein and Read have it worked out πŸ™‚

  • Comment 36, posted at 31.12.11 14:03:07 by JJR Reply
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  • ^ Combination of speed, Size, power and offload skills, and i think very important for a number 8, handoff skills.

  • Comment 37, posted at 31.12.11 14:09:51 by JJR Reply
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  • Zinzan Brooke was probably the best 8 ever and he was 6foot4 and 105kg. I know the game has changed and players have got bigger but he had all the attributes, speed, ball skills, power etc. In SA we are fixated on size and gym strength, how much a player can bench, squat, deadlift etc. That gym strength is good but means nothing on the field, look at Spies he gets driven back all the time. Look at Schalk on the other hand, natural strength and virtually never gets driven back. It’s a fine balance. To me Bobby Skinstad had all the physical attributes but just lacked something mentally. We need to do less gym work and more skills and speed work….look at James O’Connor, the little annoyance is tiny but runs rings around opposition and can take the hard stuff too…

  • Comment 38, posted at 31.12.11 14:26:47 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 38) : Zinzan played in a period where guys were a lot lighter than they are today. Today an 8th man will run at 100kg centres, whereas back then you were considered big at 90kg, for a centre.

  • Comment 39, posted at 31.12.11 14:50:24 by JJR Reply
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  • Yes, that is my point! Rugby Union has become a bit like league, bash, bash, bash! The Aussies see if differently though and pick quick, skillful backline players instead of meatheads! They are ahead of the game methinks. Hopefully we will see a trend back towards more skills, running rugby and tries in the near future…

  • Comment 40, posted at 31.12.11 15:21:20 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 40) : There is a place for both, meatheads and skillful players…a word i use very often when talking about Rugby is balance. Watching Racing v Montpellier right now, and there backs are quite small, but look creative. But they avoid contact, which i don’t like…eventually you will find you not getting over the advantage line and that you are going backwards; just puts pressure on ur forwards…forwards going back is not a good thing.

    BTW; I don’t think the guys were lighter by choice back in the day, it’s because they were not professional, didn’t train nearly as much and as hard as the guys today, and they did not really have any Nutritional programmes to stick to.

  • Comment 41, posted at 31.12.11 15:30:10 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR, agreed! Creatine and Glutamine have changed rugby for good!

  • Comment 42, posted at 31.12.11 15:42:49 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 42) : πŸ˜† πŸ™‚ Natural Human Growth Hormone pills also help πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 43, posted at 31.12.11 15:44:18 by JJR Reply
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  • I used Creatine and Glutamine to gain the 10kg I was asked too and regret it big time. It just helps you retain water and you look bloated like a Michelin man. Also, once you have gained the weight it’s frikkin hard to lose it. I still have not lost it 10 years later. To all parents, please advise your kids to try and not use Creatine if they can…..stick with pap en vleis!

  • Comment 44, posted at 31.12.11 15:55:56 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 35) : In his book he says his ideal weight is 106 ?? I think or 103 ?

    Prof Noakes says that just training (from not training at all) will increase your strength and performance in the gym by 20% ,equal to the increase you could expect from taking steroids while training, creatine on the otherhand only serves a 2% increase .Just training and eating correctly has changed rugby .Old school sport coaches (and many elder people ) believe that gyming is cheating and will have a nonchalant attitude about it which irritates me.

  • Comment 45, posted at 01.01.12 17:27:43 by Talent Reply
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  • I have faith in the works of Mark Steele and his colleagues

  • Comment 46, posted at 01.01.12 17:34:20 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 45) : The awesome Gym work is one of the reasons Rugby is in my opinion the Best Sport in the World by a long shot.It Tests every aspect of an individual, mental and physical, and Rugby is for all different shapes and sizes…truly the awesome Ultimate Sport…Rugby Union!!

    @Talent (Comment 46) : Yes, Mark is awesome!!

    @Grasshopper (Comment 44) : Really?…I stopped using any extra supplements about a month ago…No Protein Shakes, No Creatine, everything. Just natural good foods; i have lost 8 kg of weight. Have lost fat; but lots of muscle mass too…Supplements do make a big difference. It’s all about choosing the quality stuff…if you took any Creatine monohydrate, i am not surprised why you got lots of water retention.

    Creatine ethyl ester or something that sounds similar is a lot better. Creatine, some creatines actually made me burn fat like crazy! The Pros know what they doing…supplements play an influencial role, but it doesn’t replace hard work and commitment. Compare Stef Terblanche with Wayne Julies πŸ™‚

    I must be honest i probably have lost more than i should because a lot of my Gym work is now more aerobic, fitness type exercises, than Max lift Bench presses, Squats and Deadlifts, etc.

  • Comment 47, posted at 01.01.12 21:11:55 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 47) : diet is key mate!

    Rob it would be interesting to find out the players fitness levels in terms of 100 time 40 time etc ,their lifting stats ,olympic lift stats and even body fat percentage compared to last season(pre-season and in-season).

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  • @Talent (Comment 48) : Yup, 4 sure. Still without supplements i lose weight. Don’t know how many boiled eggs and SpagBol i have had this last month πŸ˜†

  • Comment 49, posted at 02.01.12 09:57:13 by JJR Reply
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  • Wow! Taught this kid at Hudson Primary in 2005-2006. Back then he was a quiet, shy, well mannered young man. Glad to see him doing well!

  • Comment 50, posted at 02.01.12 12:09:29 by zimshark Reply

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  • @JJR, I was using Creatine Monohydrate back between 1997 and 2000 when I was playing Under21. I was using USN products so the best for the time. I think Creatine just effects people differently. Some people gain lean muscle and others just bloat. Don’t get me wrong it helped me break my lifting bests but then I have never been able to lose the weight again. I am not allowed to use fat burners so have to do more cardio. Anyway, most of these kids from a young age are on these supplements, not good in my opinion as they are still growing. It’s madness to see schoolboy packs weighing over 800kg and getting props weighing more than 120kg! I remember last year that lock Willemse weighing about 130kg! These are not schoolboys they are supplement meatheads. I was a meathead to hence my stance on this…

  • Comment 51, posted at 02.01.12 12:35:08 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • Well done johan! I think that MUZI must keep his negative comments to him self! How can you say that Roelof is better than Johan? Well I have been following both of these players as they are both from queenstown, johan and roelof are very good mates as they both attended Hangklip. Johan you are one great player don’t let these negative comments get to you!! Good luck on your future! And stay the good humble chap that you are!! Plz if you wana say something negative,rather keep it to your self or go and smoke some more grass!!!!

  • Comment 52, posted at 02.01.12 15:25:12 by maashie8 Reply

     
  • @maashie8 (Comment 52) : hey maashie – welcome to the site.

    Just a point here which I guess was probably lost on you (or any other new reader) is that we were really just having a joke at the expense of our old pal Muzi, who tends to see everything through light blue shades. Fact is, nobody on this thread has actually said anything even remotely negative about Plank… we’re all super excited to see him shine in the black and white and outdo all other competitors!

    Hope to see more of you around here and hope that you will get to know all of us (including Muzi) a lot better over the course of time!

  • Comment 53, posted at 02.01.12 17:00:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ludz (Comment 26) : Hey Ludz. I’m sorry to hear about your dad.
    Good to hear that you’re enjoying the initiation.
    In a way I’m glad ur staying put in EC. You’ll be close enough to the action to keep tabs on things in that part of the world. πŸ™‚
    I might see you at the Grey PE fest

  • Comment 54, posted at 02.01.12 18:58:13 by beet Reply
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  • @maashie8 (Comment 52) : Like Rob said, it was just a joke. Not even Muzi’s words, all fabricated.

    For the record an actual Muzi quote about Johan made back in Sep 2011 on another site was:

    “I’m Still angry Johan Meyer turned down the Bulls”

    An indication of just how highly Muzi rates Johan. πŸ™‚

  • Comment 55, posted at 02.01.12 19:02:55 by beet Reply
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  • Ok I see now. I didn’t know he was joking.

  • Comment 56, posted at 02.01.12 19:17:06 by maashie8 Reply

     
  • @maashie8 (Comment 56) : no worries meneer. We’re all friends here! Well, mostly :).

  • Comment 57, posted at 02.01.12 20:03:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 51) : Monohydrate bloats you up quick fast but the Creatine X4 is quite a nice product, I tend to take it smaller than the recomended dose just to help with exercising.

  • Comment 58, posted at 03.01.12 09:37:27 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • Reading this post reminded of a great time in my life,I actually commented on this post while I was still a “bushman”

  • Comment 59, posted at 29.05.12 10:13:22 by Ludz Reply

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