Richard Ferguson

Scottish calling for Nel

Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Cheetahs, Original Content, Super Rugby on 26 Jan 2012 at 08:47
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Cheetahs prop WP Nel is the source of some speculation in Scotland, as clubs Edinburgh and Glasgow are reportedly quite keen to sign the 25 year old, with the view of him qualifying to play for Scotland in the future.

Nel, who is currently sidelined with a shoulder injury, but is expected to be fit and to take part in the warm up games against the Griffons, Stormers and Bulls.

Volksblad has reported that the player is viewed in such high regard, that the clubs are willing to sign him now for the 2013 season already.

Nel has 11 months left on his current contract with the Cheetahs, and will be playing in both the SupeRugby campaign as well as the Currie Cup.


  • Well the scottish would probably hold anyone from SA in high regard

  • Comment 1, posted at 26.01.12 08:57:10 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 1) :

    The first SA prop that jumps to mind that would be HUGE in Scotland is Ollie..

    Then again.. he is HUGE wherever he goes..

  • Comment 2, posted at 26.01.12 09:06:02 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Having been to Scotland a few times (really love that place) I can quite honestly say that rugby will be dead there in 10 years. The game is only played in a few private schools and the majority of the population couldn’t care less about the game. They’d probably watch badminton before rugby! The only solution is buying international players, and buying them now.

  • Comment 3, posted at 26.01.12 09:11:08 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 3) : Thats sad

  • Comment 4, posted at 26.01.12 09:17:44 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
  • @CapeShark (Comment 3) :

    Very sad indeed..

  • Comment 5, posted at 26.01.12 09:29:54 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • WP Nel is a good prospect for SA, would be a sad thing if he goes

  • Comment 6, posted at 26.01.12 10:15:06 by Mutley Reply
  • It was good news for Scottish rugby to see their club Glasgow not only qualify for the HC quarters but top their group as well. So hope floats for Scottish club rugby to get even better and bringing in better players (not too many tho) will surely help.

  • Comment 7, posted at 26.01.12 10:15:48 by beet Reply
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  • Its a sad thing if a great sport is dying in a country, especially if its one of the home nations

  • Comment 8, posted at 26.01.12 10:16:55 by Mutley Reply
  • Must say this is the first I have heard of this.

    As for the game in Scotland, well yes it is still to in a great state, but under new management things are changing. For a few years a certain Mr. McKie, a rather poor accountant, was in charge of the SRU.

    The things he did… we’ll how would you guys react if the management of the Sharks decided that supporters could no longer use the fields outside Kings Park? To McKie, fans usage of the field was an expense, therefore must be stopped. Basically reduce all expenses, even if it means cutting you’re own income sources. Right enough…

    Since the 2007 world cup though, even the blazer boys were becoming disgruntled at the state of affairs in the game. They made an active drive (hindered by McKie of course) to get the game in Scotland up to speed. They went to most of clubs and schools in order to find how many people were playing, where they were playing and how they could be helped. They registered these players, and the rate at which players/ clubs came forward meant there was an apparent increase of over 30% in playing numbers every year from 2007-2010. The number of total players is just under 40 000 across all age groups and both genders.

    They then took a the step to ask Frank Hadden to leave and appoint Andy Robinson. First game was a relatively comfortable win against Fiji, the next was the win against Australia. For most Scots that was the turning point. Yes Aus were pish, but No matter if we had all the luck in the world, even if playing against a third string Wallaby team, we wouldn’t have won in all those previous years. At last there were no pre-planned substitutions, but ones that helped the cause. Then a narrow loss against Argentina that was harsh given we dominated proceedings, but if you aren’t good enough often enough….

    The there was 2010 Six Nations, well that 2009-2010 season was a very good one for the two pro teams. Edinburgh and Glasgow were both challenging for semi-final places in the Magners League, with Dan Parks finally putting in consistent displays week in week out. The Six Naions resulted in the usual loss against France, a draw with England, a close loss to Italy, a poor loss to Wales, and finally a win against Ireland. Then the tour win over Argentina, the thumping by the All Blacks, win over the Boks and then Samoa.

    2011 Six Nations, well the pro teams were doing poo, so there wasn’t much to look forward to. In the first game against France we scored 3, but conceded more. Dire performance against a dire Wales, loss to England and Ireland, then win over Italy. Nae very inspiring.

    Then the world cup. Well, to put it short it was a case of same old same old against the Pumas and England. Argentina won thanks to our players falling asleep at a kick-off, and th bringing on of Dan Parks and Mike Blair, otherwise Scotland controlled the game. England much the same as the week before, falling asleep at kick-off from which they got possession and scored. So that is the national team.

    Now, we look back just a few weeks before the world cup… McKie hoofed out of SRU, making some supporters run out and cheer outside Murrayfield. A media man, Mark Dodson was brought in. He undid all of the problems that McKie caused, and actually is interested in the game itself. The amateur league structures have been changed to make them more streamlined and more compact, meaning teams don’t have to travel vast ( by UK standards, an Aberdonian would call a trip from Durban to Ladysmith vast 😆 ) distances to play a game. Mark Dodson has personally gone on a trip around Scotland to visit hundreds of clubs to get their 2 cents worth, a real hands on job. The attendance of the pro team in Edinburgh has jumped from an average of 2, 800 last season to 5, 400 this season. Galasgow’s attendances have also improved but I don’t know the exact figures. Edinburgh have topped their group in the Hieneken Cup, first ever by a Scottish team, and they now host Toulouse in April, and they are playing a fantastic brand of rugby, high tempo with plenty of tries being scored(something like 20 in their group in 6 games, and even though they sit ninth in the Pro 12, they are the second highest scoters behind Leinster)

    Glasgow are sitting fourth in the Magners League, making that their aim for the season, not playing the best stuff but it is very effective. E best part about this season, is that it is all down to the youngsters. 20 year old Duncan Weir has a great boot on him, kinda like Dan Parks but to with the dramatic dips in form. He also attempts to tackle and knows when it is on to pass or not. Even if his passing game isn’t the best. At Edinburgh for most of the season we have seen Gregor Hunter or Harry Leonard at the 10 spot, both 19/ 20. Whilst not over-excelling, this was previously never done. A young player at such a crucial position ? Never, how dare ou speak such things! Whilst Greig Laidlaw, our equivalent of Ruan Pienaar, has played most of the season at nine, but been instrumental in the big games at 10. Thus we have gone from Dan Parks and Phl Godawfulman being our only options at 10 2 years ago, we now have Duncan Weir, Rudriah Jackson, Greig Laidlaw and Parks (unfortunately) competing for selection, with Hunter and Leonard waiting.

    Now we have our very own Dutchman. Tim Visser, born in Holland but in a move to play Tier 1 level rugby has plied his add in Scotland for Edinburgh for the last 3/4 years. Each of those years he has either been or been close to the top try scorer in the Magners League/ Pro 12, and while I know many will say jog on, but I think he is a better wing than all but Pietersen at the Sharks (his defensive game is somewhat lacking, which of course is where JP excels)

    In short, the future of Scottish rugby looks much, much brighter now than it did a few years ago. We have men in charge who know what they are doing, young professional teams doing well at the moment, improved attendances at their games, gathering cohesion amongst the individual clubs, etc…

    We do lack props for the immediate future though, when Jacobsen (Chunk), Ford and Murray retire, we are going to be in big trouble.

  • Comment 9, posted at 26.01.12 10:28:57 by LordHope Reply

  • * not a great state

  • Comment 10, posted at 26.01.12 10:30:03 by LordHope Reply

  • @LordHope (Comment 9) : I am delighted to hear that. It would be a sad day if rugby in Scotland were to disappear.

  • Comment 11, posted at 26.01.12 10:38:55 by StevieS Reply
  • No surprises here… Nel doesn’t quite get the credit he deserves playing for a smaller team.

    Cheetahs for me have easily the 2nd best front-row in Super Rugby, right behind (and very close to) the Sharks. 😉

  • Comment 12, posted at 26.01.12 10:48:46 by hendrikp Reply

  • By any chance is the article in Die Volksblad available online?

  • Comment 13, posted at 26.01.12 10:59:28 by LordHope Reply

  • @LordHope (Comment 9) : Nice report, thanks man. I always hope for a Scottish win except that game against the Springboks, I wasn’t overly stoked about that.

  • Comment 14, posted at 26.01.12 11:15:11 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 14) :

    Same here.. The Scot in me always backs the men in blue/purple..

  • Comment 15, posted at 26.01.12 11:20:31 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • I rside in Scotland…and i can assure you rugby will not ever be ” Dead ” here..i see alot of kids getting involved and where i am there has been a surge in interest in the game.

    Scotland may not be a finanacially sound as its neighbours but there is talent out there. they just lack a better coach.

    remember folks the ” Dying scottish rugby , heaped pain on the Boks in 2010…they have bags of talent.

  • Comment 16, posted at 26.01.12 15:04:09 by The Duke Reply

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  • @The Duke (Comment 16) : Please don’t reming us of that! 😥

  • Comment 17, posted at 26.01.12 15:13:18 by StevieS Reply
  • @StevieS (Comment 17) :

    mate i was there that day …it was cold and i mean really cold…the only pro about the day was the beer was cheap and it was flowing freely. we got mugged by the Scots…and they deserved it. they managed to completely dominate us at our own game. As a Bok in Scotland i can say this…the Scots are good winners and take everything with a pinch of salt. they breed great people up here.

  • Comment 18, posted at 26.01.12 15:17:26 by The Duke Reply

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  • @The Duke (Comment 18) : Glad to hear it, they are a proud people. I always want the Boks to win, but I want us to beat good teams.

  • Comment 19, posted at 26.01.12 15:33:52 by StevieS Reply
  • Good update on the Scots Lordhope, while the Scots will never win the world cup, they are a proud nation and i don’t think they would just let their rugby die, they have always lacked real gamebreakers but always give 100% with what they have, can’t really see the boere boys going there though its too dam cold for them lol

  • Comment 20, posted at 26.01.12 15:37:47 by SharkED Reply

  • @SharkED (Comment 20) :

    Welcome to the site!

    Hope to see you around a bit more!

  • Comment 21, posted at 26.01.12 15:40:29 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @SharkED (Comment 20) :

    i think theres a few rising prospects…i think Grey could potentially become the best in the business. its just forming the right pairing with him.

    he is young, strong, quick and has a pair of jumping boots on.

    class act

  • Comment 22, posted at 26.01.12 15:49:27 by The Duke Reply

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  • Thanks Richard, I’m certainly hoping to be….

  • Comment 23, posted at 26.01.12 15:51:20 by SharkED Reply

  • @The Duke (Comment 22) : your right, he is a prospect, the other problem they sit with though is depth, once they lose a front line player theres really not a lot to call on to fill the gaps so i can understand the need to try and buy a few quality players into their system…

  • Comment 24, posted at 26.01.12 16:04:42 by SharkED Reply

  • @LordHope (Comment 9) : wasn’t the sa vs scotland record pre-isolation played 8 won 5 lost3?(With bokke winning 5 ).now if the pre-isolation record was that england had only beaten sa twice,ireland beat sa once,and wales no victories,that would mean that scotland beat us as many times as the other 3 home unions combined ??!

  • Comment 25, posted at 26.01.12 17:13:53 by bergshark Reply

  • I only finished matric last year, don’t look at me! :mrgreen:

    The SRU are indeed looking at foreign uncapped players to try and bolster the team, however the pro teams don’t have the same carrot to offer young foreign players that out counterparts can, the SRU tried to break the bank to get Richie Gray to stay (they wanted him to be the face of Scottish rugby, still do most likely), but he still got a better offer from Sale (whom are bringing in Scots at the rate they should change their name to Manchester Scottish), which is reported to take around just under 10% of their allowed salary cap.

    With regards to the win over the Boks in 2010, the thing I most enjoyed was Bobby Skinstads’ reaction 😈

  • Comment 26, posted at 26.01.12 21:21:39 by LordHope Reply

  • Confirmed, the Forum of Scottish Rugby Supporters thanks Sharksworld for the heads up.

  • Comment 27, posted at 15.02.12 16:20:56 by LordHope Reply


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