Baby Boks go down to Maties

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content on 29 Jan 2012 at 19:09
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Dawie Theron’s SA under 20 side lost to Maties by 21 points to 31 on Friday, in a friendly match that marked the end of their two-week training camp.

The juniors, who should still be strengthened further when a number of Super Rugby players come into the picture ahead of the Junior World Championship, fell behind by 14-0 against the 3-time Varsity Cup champions and despite finishing strongly, never quite managed to catch up on the scoreboard. There were positives to take from the game, though, including some great set piece play.

Tries for the Baby Boks were scored by flank Shaun Adendorff, centre Pat Howard and wing JJ de Klerk. Flyhalf Tony Jantjies succeeded with all three conversions.

Despite the result, though, the Baby Bok coach described the camp as a success. “The camp was very valuable in terms of our preparation for the Junior World Champs. We’ve really progressed and I have to applaud the players for the hard work they put in in mostly very hot conditions,” he told the SARugby website. “Hopefully most members of the squad will get game time in the Vodacom Cup and Varsity Cup, which will improve their match fitness and confidence even more.”


Maties: Tries: Os Hamman (2), Grant Hattingh, Wessel Coetzee. Conversions: AndrΓ© Kemp (3), JH Potgieter. Penalty: Potgieter.

SA Onder 20: Tries: JJ de Klerk, Patrick Howard, Shaun Adendorf. Conversions: Tony Jantjies (3).


  • Awsome article, Rob! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 1, posted at 27.01.12 13:25:08 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 1) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 2, posted at 27.01.12 13:26:40 by vanmartin Reply
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    Going to need their Super Rugby players if they’re to stand any chance. Hopefully Dawie doesn’t leave them out this year.

    Steven Kitshoff, Ruan Venter, Pieter Steph du Toit, Johan Goosen & Paul Jordaan… greatly improved side already.

  • Comment 3, posted at 27.01.12 13:28:41 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 3) : Add Tsotso Mbovane to that list. πŸ˜‰

    I expect alot of those back up players like Schmidt to get fired by Oom Dawie after today. :mrgreen:

    We need to get rid of Kevin Luiters what the hell is so special about him. πŸ˜•

  • Comment 4, posted at 27.01.12 13:33:22 by Muzi Reply

  • @Muzi (Comment 4) :

    Mbovane is not a SR player…

    And besides, word is he will be out for most of 2012 with serious injury.

  • Comment 5, posted at 27.01.12 13:35:29 by hendrikp Reply

  • @Ice (Comment 1) : sorry πŸ™

  • Comment 6, posted at 27.01.12 13:49:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : The power of Admin… πŸ˜†

  • Comment 7, posted at 30.01.12 09:06:19 by Ice Reply
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  • Tshotsho unlikely to be fit. Jordaan will not be released by Sharks. Would be surprised to see Goosen there – will probably be in senior Bok set up. Would normally agree with Muzi about Luiters but he actually looked okay on Friday. The scoreline does not do justice to the Baby Boks. The back line dominated. Always threatened when the ball went wide. Game lost in the lineouts, around the fringes and rolling mauls near the line. Included one charged-down kick. Interesting that the BB won the second 30 minute chukka when replacements came on. The ref was also dubious at best – Bryce-esque decicions :.)

  • Comment 8, posted at 30.01.12 09:08:19 by Micky Reply

  • @Micky (Comment 8) : How was Pat Howards defence? After the Ikeys game, either the Rapport or the Burger mentioned that the midfield defence was very poor and mentioned Howard in this regard.

  • Comment 9, posted at 30.01.12 09:22:38 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 3) : a big problem seems to be that they’ve built up this momentum and then suddenly they break until April for the Argentina game.

    So essentially Oom Dawie has narrowed his squad down, given them game time, now there’s a 2 and a bit month break during which he’s going to presumably watch some of these players in action for their individual clubs/unions, then bring them together again.

    If a few players that were cut from or not selected for trials impress during this window of proper game time opport.that should actually count for more than trials seeing that it’s not simulation and its closer to the real event: JWC, what will Oom Dawie do. Ignore these guys and stick with the players chosen back in the offseason during Dec.

    Personally I think the way the process is structured leaves a lot to be desired.

  • Comment 10, posted at 30.01.12 09:24:35 by beet Reply
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  • @Micky (Comment 8) :

    The tournament takes place in the 3-week gap, same time as the Springboks are playing England.

    Sharks won’t have a choice as to whether they release him or not.

  • Comment 11, posted at 30.01.12 09:25:54 by hendrikp Reply

  • @beet (Comment 10) :

    Tbh, I’m of the opinion that they build up enough momentum during the pool stages and so forth… any further investment in the side could be going a bit far considering the large trials and camps that already take place.

    Last year we should’ve walked it, but a bit of bad luck and a terribly back-4 cost us dearly.

  • Comment 12, posted at 30.01.12 09:30:35 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 12) : The pool stages are do or die. Every point you score and concede could come back to haunt you if you don’t win every game, as there is only 1 wild card semi-final spot up for graps.

  • Comment 13, posted at 30.01.12 09:37:41 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 13) :

    Realize that, and it’ll be tough this time around with England (who will still have reigning IRB U20 POTY Matt Ford)… but in the past I don’t think you can blame a bad build-up, especially as NZ hasn’t exactly had anything better to work with πŸ™‚

  • Comment 14, posted at 30.01.12 09:39:30 by hendrikp Reply

  • @Salmonoid (Comment 9) : in this Maties game a blogger mentioned problems in the lineouts and around the fringes.

    I’d be so frustrated as a coach if I had to wait 2 months to fix fundamentals and then test the results live.

  • Comment 15, posted at 30.01.12 09:42:15 by beet Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 14) : we have greater obstacles than NZ. Our plans have to revolve around putting ourselves in the best possible position to win. Fortunately we have homeground adv. Last year the lack of cohesion in relation to England was evident. So was the fact that we had some personnel onboard that possibly shouldn’t have been there. I just want our guys to plan to win and leave as little as possible to chance πŸ™‚

  • Comment 16, posted at 30.01.12 09:47:43 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 16) :

    True that πŸ™‚

    Oh dear, never posting on News24 again. Just had random guy try add me… pretty sure he thinks I bat for the other team, or was wanting to find out going by his facebook profile photos 😯

  • Comment 17, posted at 30.01.12 09:56:14 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 17) : πŸ˜†

  • Comment 18, posted at 30.01.12 10:13:13 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 11) : If a player is not selected for the Springboks then everything should be done to get them involved in the JWC. It’s an opportunity to play they may not have again. Super 15 they can play for a good few years

  • Comment 19, posted at 31.01.12 15:15:09 by slammerboy Reply
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  • @Micky (Comment 8) : not sureprised they had problems in the linouts. Imagine trying to lift Paul Willemse, the guy weighs over 130kgs! Will be interesting to see who Dawie selects at lock – He will probably select 3, max 4 of the following Jacques du Plessis, Paul Willemse, Ruan Botha, Ruan Venter, Paul Steph du Toit and Ettienne Oosthuizen

  • Comment 20, posted at 31.01.12 15:19:08 by slammerboy Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 10) : I still think there should be a Tri-Nations U20 compo similar to the Six Nations U20 which should run at the same time. You’d think that Oz and NZ would buy into this but given their suggested lack of depth in their Super 15 squads their youngsters would probably find themselves playing super rugby. The other option is for the inclusion of the U20s into the Vodacom Cup or even Varsity Cup.

  • Comment 21, posted at 31.01.12 15:26:44 by slammerboy Reply
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  • @slammerboy (Comment 20) : Pieter-Steph πŸ™‚

  • Comment 22, posted at 31.01.12 15:58:00 by robdylan Reply
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