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Pietersen set for centre switch


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 1 Feb 2012 at 08:04
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Just occasionally, and I stress that this doesn’t happen often, I have a rare moment of lucidity. Now, whether this is a case of me just being a step ahead in terms of the way I think about things, or whether it’s all based on inside info that I’m not quite ready to share, is for me to know and you to find out. When I suggested a while ago, though, that JP Pietersen might have a future at centre, it seems I may have been on the money.

A report in today’s Witness suggests that the big Bok winger is a lot closer to being picked at 13 than we previously thought, with John Plumtree singing Pietersen’s praises as a midfield option, while also indicating that the side has changed “some of the philosophies” regarding midfield play. So long as the philosophy that considers Marius Joubert an adequate centre is one of them, I’m all for it!

I’ve been doing this for a while, though and have, I’ll admit, fallen into the trap of believing what is said in pre-season press reports, only to see something completely different unfold on the field. Let’s just say that if this story is to carry any weight, it will be proven when the Sharks trial sides are announced, because if Pietersen is to indeed feature as an outside centre this year (with some that I’ve asked even suggesting he may the first choice at 13, alongside Meyer Bosman) I would expect to see him wearing that jersey when the teams take the field on Friday evening.

All-in-all, though, I’m pretty happy with this turn of events, should it prove to be true. The Sharks have far too many good wings as it is and using Pietersen to cover a position that has caused us far too much grief in the past will free up more spots for the likes of Lwazi Mvovo, Louis Ludik, Odwa Ndungane and even Sbu Sithole to showcase their skills more regularly.


116 Comments

  • He’ll do bloody good at outside centre

  • Comment 1, posted at 01.02.12 08:08:08 by PTAShark Reply
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  • You’re all for a philosophy that considers MJ an adequate center?!?!?! ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

    Please tell me the IN that was supposed to be before adequate fell off somewhere?

    PLEAAAAAAAASE? ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Comment 2, posted at 01.02.12 08:12:33 by KSA Shark ยฉ Reply

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  • I’d love JPP at 13.

    This makes me all eager to watch SR again.

  • Comment 3, posted at 01.02.12 08:14:38 by KSA Shark ยฉ Reply

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  • @KSA Shark ยฉ (Comment 2) : no man, you blerrie d-word… go read it again ๐Ÿ™‚

    The philosophy that consider MJ an adequate centre is one that they need to change!

    Jinne… Kroonstad education at its best :mrgreen:

  • Comment 4, posted at 01.02.12 08:20:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • Goosebumps. Would absolutely love to see him there!

  • Comment 5, posted at 01.02.12 08:21:32 by King Shark Reply
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  • Wasn’t going to go to the trial match but this has changed my mind I will try and buy some bartering chips this evening ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Comment 6, posted at 01.02.12 08:23:27 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Hallelujah!!! ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Comment 7, posted at 01.02.12 08:25:05 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I think this will be a good move but wat about him playing for the boks? Will he be choosen as an outside centre or will he have to little experience? Unless he has a blinder of a season there I think he might get left out. Or would he go back to wing for boks

  • Comment 8, posted at 01.02.12 08:27:49 by sharkbok Reply

     
  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Ahhhhhhhh I seeeeeeeeeeee (said the blind man to his deaf dog) ๐Ÿ˜ณ

  • Comment 9, posted at 01.02.12 08:28:22 by KSA Shark ยฉ Reply

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  • ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 10, posted at 01.02.12 08:29:59 by Franshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) :

    I just saw adequate and MJ in the same sentence and automatically KNEW something was wrong. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Comment 11, posted at 01.02.12 08:30:04 by KSA Shark ยฉ Reply

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  • Jaques Fourie made the switch from outside back to centre brilliantly, so really looking forward to JP doing the same. It would give us some serious strike power in midfield :mrgreen:

  • Comment 12, posted at 01.02.12 08:30:56 by StevieS Reply
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  • @KSA Shark ยฉ (Comment 11) : ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 13, posted at 01.02.12 08:31:16 by Franshark Reply
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  • @sharkbok (Comment 8) : If (as plum says in the newspaper) JPP picks up his workrate it will probably benefit his wing qualities if he goes back to the wing when playing for the Boks.

  • Comment 14, posted at 01.02.12 08:32:15 by KSA Shark ยฉ Reply

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  • Donโ€™t think it would be successful. Doesnโ€™t have the passing game to be an effective 13 ,if you wish to just throw him the ball while he hits a hard line and deem that as good outside centre play youโ€™re missing one of the fundamental jobs of a 13 ,to get his back three away.

  • Comment 15, posted at 01.02.12 08:33:51 by Talent Reply
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  • I’d definitely like the idea of JP @ 13

  • Comment 16, posted at 01.02.12 08:36:13 by Franshark Reply
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  • Happy Days! This could be an awesome move. Backline already seams more threatening just thinking about it

  • Comment 17, posted at 01.02.12 08:36:56 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @KSA Shark ยฉ (Comment 11) : well, at least your high-level filter is working ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Comment 18, posted at 01.02.12 08:42:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 15) : really?

    I mean, really?

  • Comment 19, posted at 01.02.12 08:42:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 19) :I hope he doesnโ€™t move .I think itโ€™s a terrible idea. But no doubt you will defend this idea. The vindication youโ€™ve been looking for?

    Iโ€™m not sure it will work .

  • Comment 20, posted at 01.02.12 08:49:24 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 20) : and your solution is?

  • Comment 21, posted at 01.02.12 08:50:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • Joubert has the misfortune of being a scapegoat, in some games last year he was one of the better players, but Iโ€™d go with Whitehead.

  • Comment 22, posted at 01.02.12 08:54:54 by Talent Reply
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  • Well, now that is interesting. I really hope it isn’t just another pre-season musing by Plum.

  • Comment 23, posted at 01.02.12 08:55:17 by The Quirk Reply
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  • Recently Rougerie made a successful switch to centre so I’m keen to see how this one pans out.

    Also worry that JP lacks a superior passing game but not sure that the Sharks style of rugby has ever called for a greater distributor at 13. We really need someone to give us penetration in midfield and I think JPP can do this.

  • Comment 24, posted at 01.02.12 09:00:09 by beet Reply
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  • Interesting idea, I think it could work. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

  • Comment 25, posted at 01.02.12 09:02:06 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 22) : MJ good, when exactly a good couple of years ago! Sorry talent here I totally disagree with you! Last year @ The Sharks except for one game where he was average (ie did nothing wrong, but nothing wow either) he was rubbish and a revolving door at best ๐Ÿ‘ฟ ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Comment 26, posted at 01.02.12 09:04:43 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • I dont think so . Sure I would rather have another younger player but he didnt play as poorly as some of you may think.

  • Comment 27, posted at 01.02.12 09:07:14 by Talent Reply
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  • Could be an interesting move, but I’d keep JPP at wing, had the crazy idea last week, which I will likely never see realised, that Louis Ludik should be tried at 13.

    Ready for the ridicule now.

  • Comment 28, posted at 01.02.12 09:08:42 by Die Kriek Reply

     
  • @Talent (Comment 22) : Talent, I make no secret of my disdain for MJ. Nonetheless, when you say “in some games last year he was one of the better players”, I have to ask which games those were, and whether you were watching them under the influence of a crack pipe? ๐Ÿ‘ฟ

  • Comment 29, posted at 01.02.12 09:09:03 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 22) : you mean Playstation?

  • Comment 30, posted at 01.02.12 09:11:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 15) : U don’t think he can adapt his kind of play to suite this position? Look at Frans Steyn…from a “he HAS to be fullback” he went to a “effing star inside centre”…

  • Comment 31, posted at 01.02.12 09:11:41 by Ice Reply
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  • A bit off topic here but anyone know when the new jersey is gonna be out?

  • Comment 32, posted at 01.02.12 09:12:44 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • I understand that we have too many wings but why move our best one to centre? Why put a guy who thrives on an extra bit of space into the midfield traffic? I am not happy with this idea.

  • Comment 33, posted at 01.02.12 09:14:42 by war1 Reply
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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 32) : Check the shops. It is the same as last year’s one except the Mr Price Sport logo is different.

  • Comment 34, posted at 01.02.12 09:17:56 by war1 Reply
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  • @Die Kriek (Comment 28) : plumtree also mentioned this option 2 seasons ago.

  • Comment 35, posted at 01.02.12 09:18:05 by bergshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 36, posted at 01.02.12 09:22:44 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 31) : I don’t know Ice. Louis is an almost risk free option at fullback but he has struggled to make a meaningful contribution to our attack. I think he could become a rock solid centre but never a game-breaker, which is what we are solely missing at centre and for that matter even at 15 with him there.

    No disrespect to Louis. He has been consistent esp on defence in 2011. As a result no one is complaining about his efforts.

  • Comment 37, posted at 01.02.12 09:23:50 by beet Reply
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  • I am all for JPP at 13 too, has all the attributes, and JPP always seems to come to form the more the ball is in his hands…well spotted Rob!!

  • Comment 38, posted at 01.02.12 09:25:45 by JJR Reply
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  • But wouldn’t it influence his Bok spot and duties?

  • Comment 39, posted at 01.02.12 09:27:00 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • BTW, anyone know the Vodacom Cup squad, yet?

  • Comment 40, posted at 01.02.12 09:28:44 by JJR Reply
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  • @Die Kriek (Comment 28) : No ridicule but I have an even more leftfield idea that I’ve been toying with for ages: Kanko at 13!

  • Comment 41, posted at 01.02.12 09:28:45 by King Shark Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 41) : My Idea is Kanko at the Kings ๐Ÿ˜† I won’t lie, not a fan of Kankowski…Bite me people.

  • Comment 42, posted at 01.02.12 09:30:38 by JJR Reply
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  • Any idea where mjekevu figures in the sharks planning?

  • Comment 43, posted at 01.02.12 09:36:54 by bergshark Reply

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  • @King Shark (Comment 41) : I’ve also had that idea for years…..a bit late in his career though I think for it to be practical.If only someone tried that idea when he was 20.

  • Comment 44, posted at 01.02.12 09:37:05 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 42) : Bit of aggro so early in the morning…?

  • Comment 45, posted at 01.02.12 09:38:12 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 41) : Got to agree with you there. His acceleration and size would make him a useful centre but we’ll probably never see it happen.

    My dream is that we use the SA A Team for those kind of experiments. Imagine a backline with Spies and Kankowski on the wings and Schalk Brits at centre. Crazy but it would be fun!

  • Comment 46, posted at 01.02.12 09:39:25 by ChrisS Reply
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  • A 13 is a strike runner and cover tackler before anything else: which 13 is a particularly good distribution other than Conrad Smith?

    Rather have a person able to break the line at 13 rather than a passer. In addition, JP is incredibly strong on his feet – will creat plenty of gaps that way, rather than fancy passing. There is more than one way to skin a cat, if you are so inclined.

  • Comment 47, posted at 01.02.12 09:41:09 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 41) : Kanko at 13 hmmm, powerful runner, good hands. May just work

  • Comment 48, posted at 01.02.12 09:43:00 by Die Kriek Reply

     
  • @Die Kriek (Comment 48) : And elusive! Imagine if we shifted Spies to wing as well. Would give our Bok backline some size and these 2 are more like backs anyway!

  • Comment 49, posted at 01.02.12 09:46:25 by ChrisS Reply
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  • Apparently Keegan Daniel was experimented with as a scrummy back in the day at a Sharks trials match so the idea isn’t so crazy. There was talk a few years ago of Kabamba Floors shifting permanently to the wing.

    Anybody know where he’s disappeared to?

  • Comment 50, posted at 01.02.12 09:48:21 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @Die Kriek (Comment 48) : Kanko and good hands? Uuum if I remember his nick name here was Kanotcatchski or something like it (help me Rob), not so sure about his hands tends to knock on a lot!

  • Comment 51, posted at 01.02.12 09:51:20 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 24) : Interesting idea – agree that he has the physical attributes – imo one of the best wings in world rugby – BUT there is a big difference between 13 and wing.
    I’m not sure if he has the passing game and defending the 13 channel is probably the most difficult position on the field defensively.

  • Comment 52, posted at 01.02.12 09:51:21 by steve Reply

     
  • @Culling Song (Comment 45) : Ha ha, i only have energy to do so in the mornings ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 53, posted at 01.02.12 09:52:49 by JJR Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 24) : Indeed we need penetration, the last centres to do this succesfully for The Sharks were Frans and Barrit…since then we havn’t really seen much.

  • Comment 54, posted at 01.02.12 09:55:16 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 54) : Barrit and Murray were our best combination and should have succeeded Jacques and Jean for the Boks!!

  • Comment 55, posted at 01.02.12 10:03:49 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 49) : this is where sa rugby needs someone with the ability of an oubaas markotter to spot talent and the position most suited for the player.read springbok saga.

  • Comment 56, posted at 01.02.12 10:09:46 by bergshark Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 42) : I’m told he doesn’t think much of you either ๐Ÿ™‚ He’s too polite to say so on blogs, though…

  • Comment 57, posted at 01.02.12 10:11:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 54) :
    @ChrisS (Comment 55) :

    I spent the whole of 2008 complaining about Carthorse Barritt being played ahead of Frans Steyn.

    Steyn had just been part of the [email protected] side as the 1st choice 12 after JdV was injured and yet Plumtree insisted on playing the Carthorse ahead of him. ๐Ÿ™

    Barritt is/was nothing more than an average player. I doubt he will be, but I hope he is the 1st choice 12 on the POM tour and that Frans is the bok 12. (Very few things in life can make me as happy as that will)

  • Comment 58, posted at 01.02.12 10:16:25 by KSA Shark ยฉ Reply

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  • @steve (Comment 52) : I always hold your opinions in high regard. Equally interesting to me are your thoughts about the no.13 defence. Coupling your own wealth of knowledge with having a source who’s playing at very high level in our system, leaves me little room to argue with you but I’ve always felt that at 13 if you can cover the ground quickly, you can smother the ball recipient in your channel a lot of the time, meaning that you can perhaps get away with not being the most technically gifted tackler on the park.

    I however wud never dispute the importance of a centre being able to stop an opponent in his zone, be it by traditional below the waist tackle, modern era wrap-up even just by getting enough contact to knock a player off balance without necessarily being able to hold onto him.

  • Comment 59, posted at 01.02.12 10:17:46 by beet Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 57) : He’s too busy posting FB comments about that magazine the players keep trying to promote. ๐Ÿ™

  • Comment 60, posted at 01.02.12 10:19:27 by KSA Shark ยฉ Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 47) : A 13 is a strike runner and cover tackler before anything else-says who? @Ice (Comment 31) : Ice, I feel his skill set is suited to wing. To me he wonโ€™t make a great centre, there is a lot more to centre play than being able to just break the line with one hard โ€œstrike runโ€.

  • Comment 61, posted at 01.02.12 10:22:44 by Talent Reply
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  • @KSA Shark ยฉ (Comment 58) : Steyn was terrible at 12 for the Sharks as he got big-headed and stopped passing the ball. I remember him costing us many games by being selfish. Barritt came on in a game against the Waratahs and completely turned the game around through his solid passing game and ability to break the line.

    It’ll be a good contest if they face each other in a Test.

  • Comment 62, posted at 01.02.12 10:23:51 by ChrisS Reply
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  • Terrible move it happens IMO.

    Good player, but doesn’t run at the line hard enough – or hasn’t proven to do it, to be a centre for me.

    If it happens, I don’t believe it will last very long.

  • Comment 63, posted at 01.02.12 10:27:30 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 63) :

    Also defending in these positions are very different… winger being more about anticipation and positioning. Centre being more about accuracy.

  • Comment 64, posted at 01.02.12 10:28:57 by hendrikp Reply

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  • Kanko at 13 ๐Ÿ™„ ๐Ÿ™„ ๐Ÿ™„ ๐Ÿ™„ Now I understand why people think JPP would be good, they have been romanced by the idea of size and speed before skill. In the modern game of rugby only a few good outside centres can be named in the same breath(this decade past); Smith, Fourie and O’driscoll- two being good distributors.

    Here`s a thought ,why not just put all our loose forwards on the wing(we have enough ) , play JPP at 13 and all the back three can do is secure the ball once, or if ,he goes to ground. Playing him at 13 may butcher a lot of try scoring opportunities โ€“expect the trade mark Basket ball pass instead of accurate in the basket passes that we should expect from a 13.

  • Comment 65, posted at 01.02.12 10:31:19 by Talent Reply
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  • This could be an interesting move but wouldn’t it leave us with four options at 13? Pietersen, Mjekevu, Joubert and Jordaan? (Though I guess Jordaan covers 12 too)

  • Comment 66, posted at 01.02.12 10:32:16 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 65) : Give JP a chance in the trials and see how it goes. I agree with you about a 13 needing to put his wings and fullback away but our options at 13 are limited and trials are just that…trials.

  • Comment 67, posted at 01.02.12 10:33:46 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 62) : in an ideal world I’d have liked to have kept both frans and barritt at the sharks.

  • Comment 68, posted at 01.02.12 10:33:52 by bergshark Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 66) :

    Would be surprised if Mjekevu gets very far with the Sharks.

  • Comment 69, posted at 01.02.12 10:34:00 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @ChrisS (Comment 67) : good call- we know what we have in jpp on the wing..maybe we find out the sharks -and bokrugby- have more in him at outside centre..

  • Comment 70, posted at 01.02.12 10:37:39 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 65) :

    Kanko at 13 is not so far fetched. Remember JPP was playing lock before Muir convinced him to play wing and a couple of years later he was playing in the WC final.

  • Comment 71, posted at 01.02.12 10:37:54 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 70) : That’s the way I see it. Experimentation is good and you can always learn new skills.

    @Pokkel (Comment 71) : I agree! Thinking outside the box is worth a shot and if he isn’t a good 13 then we know that he’s an eighthman.

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  • any way im out of here guys ! enjoy the rest of the day

  • Comment 73, posted at 01.02.12 10:43:38 by Talent Reply
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  • I’ve been holding back in saying this ..as I made a similiar mistake but you guys must not expect great things right off the bat from Mjekevu …I first saw this kid at KES and was very excited about him …and when he arrived at the Lions senior team I couldnt wait to see him perform but it was not to be really …and in part I blame Dick Muir for this ..throwing the kid under the bus into a shocking Superugby season.

    I for one hope the Sharks bring out the best in the player cause the talent is there but still not very evident at senior level.

  • Comment 74, posted at 01.02.12 10:45:30 by csb Reply

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  • @csb (Comment 74) : hope he gets contracted by the sharks.think the sharks are fortunate that he came to dbn.

  • Comment 75, posted at 01.02.12 10:52:21 by bergshark Reply

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  • @StevieS (Comment 12) :

    Jaque Fourie made the move when he was 19/20.

    JPP is one of the best wingers in the world and now the Sharks want to turn him into an outside centre.

    If its not Frans, Ruan or Smit you’re stuffing around its Lambie or now JPP.

    Ridiculous!! ๐Ÿ™„

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  • @wpw (Comment 76) : Howzit stranger?

  • Comment 77, posted at 01.02.12 11:00:20 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 76) : maybe he becomes an even better player at outside centre..
    Tana Umaga also made the move from winger to outside centre.

  • Comment 78, posted at 01.02.12 11:01:16 by bergshark Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 76) : hey, get off torres’ back! ๐Ÿ‘ฟ ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 79, posted at 01.02.12 11:04:45 by Megatron Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 78) : the problem in SA is that most of our players don’t possess the skills set to make the transition seamless. kahui moves between wing & centre ALL THE TIME, nonu has moved between wing and centre with ease, rene ranger plays both positions, james o’connor’s done it, adam ashley-cooper’s been doing it for years…

    but when it comes to a saffa, everyone gets apprehensive ๐Ÿ™„

  • Comment 80, posted at 01.02.12 11:09:41 by Megatron Reply

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  • Think I suggested that JP be moved to 13 last year sometime as well. Of course I`ve been desperate for a new centre combination for a while now . . . probably suggested every conceivable and impossible option in the book by now. ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 81, posted at 01.02.12 11:09:57 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 79) :

    Why should I??

    Please don’t tell me you support Chelski?? ๐Ÿ˜ˆ ๐Ÿ™„

  • Comment 82, posted at 01.02.12 11:12:05 by wpw Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 77) :

    Jiss Oom.

    Hoe gaanit?? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Comment 83, posted at 01.02.12 11:12:29 by wpw Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 80) : guess wpw doesn’t know that carel du plessis was selected at centre for the ’81 tour of nz .but was later known as the “prince of wings”.

  • Comment 84, posted at 01.02.12 11:17:59 by bergshark Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 83) :

    Lekker en jy….tensy jy my weer ‘Oom’ noem!

  • Comment 85, posted at 01.02.12 11:28:52 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 37) : I was actually refering to Talent sayimg that JPP will not be a good outside centre, because of his passing game at present…meanimg that does Talent not think that JPP can adopt a “centre” type of play if required..

  • Comment 86, posted at 01.02.12 11:29:24 by Ice Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 82) : i support kaizer chiefs! ๐Ÿ˜›

  • Comment 87, posted at 01.02.12 11:30:03 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 80) :

    Exactly I just think some players don’t have the temperament to play more than one position. Some can do it to great effect.

  • Comment 88, posted at 01.02.12 11:31:56 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 87) : heard boa morte and freddy ljungberg might be coming to pirates

  • Comment 89, posted at 01.02.12 11:32:44 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 86) : do you think he inherently has the required skills set to “adapt”?

  • Comment 90, posted at 01.02.12 11:33:11 by Megatron Reply

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  • @ChrisS (Comment 55) : Not saying they were our best Combo, cos they hardly played together, i just thought they were quite good at breaking the line while they were at The Sharks. Although everyone is right…Barrit it didn’t matter if he got through, cos he just got reeled in way to easily ๐Ÿ™‚

    @robdylan (Comment 57) : I Don’t blame him…i truly like the Guy as a person, very well mannered and a cool, chillaxed guy…i am just not a fan of the way he has been playing the game the past 2 or so years…that could definitely change this year though…sounds like we gonna play like we did in the Currie Cup a while ago. Build platform and momentum up front and with the ball carriers and then play fast flowing rugby…this will suit Kanko. I actually have nothing against Kanko…it’s probably more that he forces Deysel/Coetzee onto the Bench…Alberts and Deysel are my favourite Sharks forwards…Backs that’s easy…Paul “Talent” Jordaan ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Comment 91, posted at 01.02.12 11:36:34 by JJR Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 89) : boa morte’s already signed with pirates…ljungberg still speculation.

    saw yesterday indians starting their own football IPL auctioning players like hernan crespo, canavarro, jay jay okocha.

  • Comment 92, posted at 01.02.12 11:38:20 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 92) : Ljungberg didn’t happen…maybe next season…would’ve been Great for PSL to get a name like that. Heard Manucho was also linked to PSL.

    @Topic of discussion…why people saying JPP doesn’t have enough skills…passing skills for 13. Think of Jaque Fourie, he doesn’t pass too often guys.

  • Comment 93, posted at 01.02.12 11:42:13 by JJR Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 92) :thanks for the info.
    and interesting re: football ipl.

  • Comment 94, posted at 01.02.12 11:47:33 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 87) : I thought you supported Pirates ๐Ÿ‘ฟ I must be getting confused but I remember there was one team we agreed on ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Comment 95, posted at 01.02.12 12:03:05 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 90) : Megs I do indead…if it’s required of him..

  • Comment 96, posted at 01.02.12 12:03:47 by Ice Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 42) : I’ll bite you, cause I like him ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

  • Comment 97, posted at 01.02.12 12:07:46 by Franshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 57) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 98, posted at 01.02.12 12:11:32 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Sharksmad โ€“ The Blogโ€™s Dudette (Comment 95) : hey bella… ๐Ÿ˜†

    the Willows caravan park is the recommended place, it’s been newly revamped, secure and is on the beach. 10min drive from NMB stadium.

  • Comment 99, posted at 01.02.12 12:18:28 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Sharksmad โ€“ The Blogโ€™s Dudette (Comment 95) : well i liked Inter when Mourinho was there. ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ˜›

  • Comment 100, posted at 01.02.12 12:19:41 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 99) : Thank you a stax! Going to phone them immediatelly! Thank you ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Comment 101, posted at 01.02.12 12:21:29 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 100) : okai! Then it must be Mourinho we agree on cause I followed him from Porto to Chelsea then to Inter (even over my Juve) but I just cannot bring myself to support Real ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Comment 102, posted at 01.02.12 12:24:04 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad โ€“ The Blogโ€™s Dudette (Comment 102) : me too, can’t support them Madristas. especially with cristiano there…no way jose ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 103, posted at 01.02.12 12:27:26 by Megatron Reply

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  • Man, I’m in two minds about this Pietersen move… On the one hand, JPP is in my opinion one of the best wings in world rugby, so moving him potentially neutralises one of our most potent weapons. On the other hand, Marius Joubert has the pace, explosiveness and penetration of a soggy tissue, so unless we do something drastic there we can forget about accomplishing anything…

  • Comment 104, posted at 01.02.12 12:28:19 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 65) : I don’t think we should be comparing JPP to world class centres. Obviously if we had that kind of class available to us, JPP wud stay on the wing.

    A guy like Rougerie is a far better example of what can be achieved imho.

    Rather look at where the Sharks are coming from and what measures we can put in place to make a better midfield than we had.

    I also think that JPP has matured as a player over the years. His allround defensive game has gotten better. Suggesting that he can’t adapt to playing in midfield makes it sound like we talking about a very limited player which he isn’t.

  • Comment 105, posted at 01.02.12 12:31:52 by beet Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 104) : It might really come down to you determining for yourself that given the style of rugby the Sharks are bound to play, where is there more value gained / lost in the end: seeing a drop in quality at wing vs seeing an improvement in quality at 13.

  • Comment 106, posted at 01.02.12 12:36:03 by beet Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 103) : Christiano, I am Gods gift to women and football, Ronaldo just confirmed my dislike of Real!

  • Comment 107, posted at 01.02.12 12:38:46 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • I like the idea, it’s better than putting Joubert at 13, not convinced that JPP has the hands or passing ability to slot in at 13.

    Would rather go for Odwa at 13, he has the skills to move in one position.

    But in saying that if you gave me a choice between Joubert or JP at 13, hell I’ll put JP there closed eyes. In fact I will put Wors at 13 before i pick Joubert.

    Can’t we try Whitehead or Paul Jordaan at 12, because Bosman and Joubert scare me.

    Any idea is better than Bossie and Joubert, they will break our hearts again this year if or rather when they play.

    Why do these clowns get rated by Plum?

  • Comment 108, posted at 01.02.12 12:55:18 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 106) : Once you put it that way, it becomes a no-brainer for me. Our current situation at 13 is completely untenable. So losing quality on the wing, but having a functional midfield makes a lot more sense than having a world class wing who never sees the ball, or never receives it with a bit of space to work with because of an ineffectual 13.

  • Comment 109, posted at 01.02.12 13:01:20 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 97) : Thank you ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Comment 110, posted at 01.02.12 13:32:00 by JJR Reply
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  • I don’t think this is entirely clever.

    13 is quite a demanding position – for one, your lines especially in defense changes drastically and you could be terribly exposed.

    It is also not a position in which you can afford to switch off – something JP was prone to do quite a bit in recent years.

  • Comment 111, posted at 01.02.12 14:47:09 by Mornรฉ Reply
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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 108) : I tend to agree on your point regarding Odwa.

  • Comment 112, posted at 01.02.12 15:06:43 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Well i did ask for a 13 with great pace, so cant complain to much.
    can you Imagene jp and mvov next to one another. i know jp wil be good on attack it is just defence that i am worred about.

  • Comment 113, posted at 01.02.12 15:07:40 by Jakes 08 Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 106) : South African Rugby Union (Saru) have finally ratified the sale of 49,1% of Border Rugby (Pty) Ltd shares to the Kilian brothers โ€“ Henri Leon and Andre.

    โ€œThe Kilian brothers showed an interest in an equity partnership last year and we had no problem with that. However, that had to go to Saru. Iโ€™m happy to say the sale of the shares was finalised by the Saru executive last week,โ€ said Ondala.

    As a result of their buy-in into Border Rugby (Pty) Ltd , the Kilians uprooted the Zululand Rugby Academy based in Empangeni and moved it to Buffalo City, where it has been renamed the Border Rugby Academy.

  • Comment 114, posted at 01.02.12 16:17:45 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 114) : Well I hope it’s the start of good things in EL and a long and healthy business relationship.

    The old ZRA managed to attract some very good school leavers that were completely missed on the radar but they did benefit to an extent from the youngsters knowing they had an opport. to play for the Sharks.

    Nevertheless its the kind of partnership that has the potential to see Border improving to a level where they could be as consistent as the Leopards/Pukke setup. And I guess IF the Kings ever make it to SR, Border might want to start thinking even bigger than equal footing with the Leopards (at junior and senior level).

  • Comment 115, posted at 01.02.12 17:32:41 by beet Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 15) : I think he will bring us what Mortlock brought to the Brumbies and Wallabies. I for one can’t wait.

  • Comment 116, posted at 01.02.12 20:20:23 by GreatSharksays Reply

     

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