But Changes, there must be!

Written by Maria Delport (Letgo)

Posted in :Bulls, Original Content, Sharks, Super 14, Super Rugby on 27 Feb 2012 at 16:14
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I would replace Keegan with just about anyone else. His last good game for the Sharks was of the bench against the Bulls at Kings Park 2 years ago when he snatched victory from the Bulls with a great chip and chase try. Then again, that’s not even a performance, that’s just a moment. Keegan use to live by these moments. Now he doesn’t even have that anymore. Play Botes and have Steph Du Toit on the bench as back-up. I’m tired of Keegan in the team. He’s become a liability. And now the coach made him captain. What a joke.

That’s my last Keegan rant for this season. Now everyone knows where I stand on this issue and I hope he proves me wrong!

It’s not like any of the other starting forwards did any better than the Captain, but I feel instead of leading from the front, our captain has become a deadweight his forwards need to pull along. An exciting player like Kankowski has lost all of his spark and call me cruel (or biased), but I blame it on Keegan. Suddenly everyone wants Kankowski to be a strong ball carrier, he’s never been one, he’s always been the exciting runner and if his tight five and other loosies failed to create a solid base for him, he has always (mostly) disappeared. I think it’s about time the coach stepped up and decided which one of these players he wants to start at the back, either one or the other, but not both. I just don’t think they’ll ever be good for the team as a unit.

Now with a clueless scrummy (even though Mich didn’t even do as badly as I expected him to do) and lifeless pack it hardly seems fair to judge the backs, but somehow in the last 15 minutes they came to life and it wasn’t because the forwards suddenly came into action and got them front foot ball. The forwards (aside from Botes) still sucked, the backs just started playing better rugby with the same ball given to them.

I don’t think Whitehead was as good, as he has been rated on this site. He’s passing game let us down; too many passes went to ground or didn’t happen at all. His running looks good, but on the day he didn’t combine well with Lambie or JP and most of his runs came to naught.

I would bring back Bosman and McCleod for the Stormers, in place of Michelack and Whitehead. In my book Lambie is a very gifted player and Flyhalf, and even with the ramblings that will follow I still have him down at 10 in my own team sheet. I just feel based on the time Bosman was on the field and the way he spread the ball to the backs someone will have to make way for him, if not Whitehead, then sorry to say, he should take over from Lambie, as whatever the reason may have been, Lambie did not look good out there. Not until Bosman came onto the field and Lambie was moved to the back on defence and brought into the midfield channel on attack. Before this he was standing deep in the pocket, not attacking the line at all and simply passing the ball to his backs, very un-Lambie-like. You can’t blame the whole lacklustre performance on him but we’ve, or I’ve come to expect more of him and no matter how you look at it, there’s one simple fact that stood out after the game, when McLeod, Botes and Bosman came on, the Sharks looked a different side. This could simply be because the Sharks again employed their favourite game plan of conserving energy and enthusiasm for at least 60 minutes before trying to win the game in less than 20, but it has to be something the coach will consider.

Who made the difference here? Was it Charl with his quick clearing and urgency from the base? Was it Botes, involved in everything in that 20 minutes, including the try? Skeate’s experience, composure or maybe even leadership. Did Herbst influence the scrumming and go forward that much. Bosman certainly did spread the ball accurately and seemed to put players into space and Paul Jordaan created the spark that was needed to get some excitement back, including that try that gave us all a glimmer of hope that we might again steal a win.

I don’t want the coach to throw his new way of thinking out the window. I don’t want him to call Stefan Terblanche and beg him to come back and not break the line at outside centre for us. Or drop Whitehead and Jordaan and get Marius Joubert to come and not pass to JP and not do anything remotely exciting in the backline. I want him to keep taking chances on players and keep experimenting, but still consider what might have been the object of improvement after 60 minutes off crap play from the Sharks. We’ll have to see what the coach does, but I feel changes will have to come, surely!

All in all it should be the forwards to shoulder most of the blame and step it up next week, that is if we’re not going to put any blame on the ref, who this week, I would have to say, was the worst of the bunch, just behind our favourite New Zeeland ref… Bryce Lawrence. Well done Kaplan, you’re now in the same class as New Zeeland’s ref of the year.


  • Keegan is as gutsy a player as there ever was, and rotating with Botes in a loose trio with a big strong 7 and 8 he can be effective. Making him captain means that he has to start more often, and accommodated in the loose trio at the expense, perhaps, of balance amongst the loose forwards. We’ll have to see how Plumtree deals with that issue once Alberts and Deysel return. The leadership of John Smit and Oupa Stef will definitely take some time to replicate and i guess that just has to happen naturally as the new leaders emerge…

  • Comment 1, posted at 27.02.12 16:24:45 by The Quirk Reply
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  • Sjoe, maar jy is kwaai né!

    I agree on Keegan though. He been disappointing for a while know. Either Keegan OR Kanko but not both.

  • Comment 2, posted at 27.02.12 16:24:56 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @The Quirk (Comment 1) :

    I said this elsewhere. The game today doesn’t allow for 90kg loosies anymore no matter how much mongral they have except maybe as a quick impact player in the last 15 – 20 minutes.

  • Comment 3, posted at 27.02.12 16:27:20 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 2) : This is super rugby. There’s no use in sugarcoating, nothing but the best will do.

  • Comment 4, posted at 27.02.12 16:30:12 by Letgo Reply
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  • @The Quirk (Comment 1) : I like Keegan, I really do, I just think our coach have lost sight of what the best way is to use him.

  • Comment 5, posted at 27.02.12 16:32:07 by Letgo Reply
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  • It was only the first game of the season, away against the bulls and you don’t sack people on a one game performance, give it chance, its quite a young team and as quirk said the old leaders left and it will take time for the new ones to step up.

  • Comment 6, posted at 27.02.12 16:32:47 by MJ Reply

  • This would be my team for the weekend…i feel Bissie and Keegan will know they were off on the day(Last week) and both will have really good games this weekend.

    7.PS du toit/Bresler
    18.Du toit/Bresler

    C’mon Sharks!

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.02.12 16:38:37 by JJR Reply
  • @JJR (Comment 7) : I think you’d have to start with Odwa on the wing and Jordaan on the bench, i like your loose forwards although i think if Kankowski is excluded Tera Mthembu should be on bench to cover blindside and 8, which would then also mean taking another look at your locks… Boy am i glad i’m not a Sharks selector… Every decision you make butterfly effects itself through the whole squad…

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.02.12 16:43:58 by The Quirk Reply
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  • @The Quirk (Comment 8) : Tera is a good 8 and that’s it…at 103kg he is way too light for a 7 and Keegan can cover 8, that’s really his best position. Bresler has played at bit at 7, BTW. I also think having PSDU toit or Bresler at 7 with Skeate coming in a 5 will give our loose trio more balance aswell as making sure we have good lineout options, cos our lineout was useless last week 🙂

    Why Ndungane over Jordaan? Ndungane has experience; but too slow these days to be a threat on the wing, he will be good i think off the bench(for viljoen) and attacking from 15. Van Aswegan is tipped to be 10, again, so we don’t need to have wingers that are good under the high ball…all out speed and counter attacking abilities will be what i think we will need on saturday or what will benefit us most on the day.

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.02.12 16:50:37 by JJR Reply
  • @MJ (Comment 6) : I’m not even basing on the whole game, only the last 20min. 😐

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.02.12 16:59:08 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 10) : That’s how crazy I am! 😉

  • Comment 11, posted at 27.02.12 17:02:10 by Letgo Reply
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  • What a shocking way to start the weekend, Bulls beating the Sharks and then just down the road the Titans beating the Dolphins!! If that is something to go bye, at least the Dolphins beat the Cobras yesterday in Paarl , hopefully the Sharks will do the same this weekend!

  • Comment 12, posted at 27.02.12 17:13:04 by morne1 Reply

  • We got murdered in the collisions, simply can’t afford to play Keegan and Kanko in the same run on team, Vermeulen and Co will have a field day!

  • Comment 13, posted at 27.02.12 17:16:30 by morne1 Reply

  • Soe ok…
    Changes has to be made but not changing players, more a bid of an attitude change….
    We called Bismark the worlds best hooker by far, 2 games later and he don’t fit into a provincial team…
    Comon, shiiiii. Ttt, we lost against the bulls @ loftus… Just first game of the season… Get over it and support the team… I like it before the loss and still like the team…

  • Comment 14, posted at 27.02.12 17:22:28 by Franshark Reply
  • Letgo please calm down. Keegan wasn’t half as bad last season as you make him out to be. Things will come right. This was the 1st game. I agree with Kanko though. He has been awful for too long now. Drop him and play Marcell at 8.

  • Comment 15, posted at 27.02.12 17:28:54 by Ben Reply
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  • @MJ (Comment 6) : she’s not sacking him just demoting 😉

  • Comment 16, posted at 27.02.12 17:32:32 by rekinek Reply
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  • Agree regarding Keegan.

    Disagree 100% regarding Whitehead. He was my man of the Match for the sharks on saturday! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 17, posted at 27.02.12 17:46:17 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 15) : For me the Keegan thing has been coming for a long time and I don’t think the forward will give proper front foot ball to the back until he or Kanko is dropped to the bench and the other used at 8. Last time Keegan looked really good was with Deysel 112 at 6 and Alberts 114 at 7. That’s a way different backrow than Keegan 94kg, Marcell 106, and Kanko 107. That’s a more than 10kg difference.

  • Comment 18, posted at 27.02.12 18:32:53 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 17) : My Man of the Match…Bosman/Jordaan/Botes or just Botes. I’ve disregarded the first 60min of the match, otherwise I will lose all my belief.

  • Comment 19, posted at 27.02.12 18:35:06 by Letgo Reply
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  • It’s been one game, you can’t really take too much out of it. The one glaring change that does need to be made is in the loose trio. The unit is not balanced. Keegan has not deserved a starting spot for a while now so the only reason he is there is because he is captain.

  • Comment 20, posted at 27.02.12 19:08:16 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 3) : Keegan always looked good coming on as an impact player. He has never been fully effective as an 80 minutes player. I always said he should come on in the last 15 – 20 minutes when there are tired legs on the park.

  • Comment 21, posted at 27.02.12 19:09:43 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 18) : You need to let go, Letgo! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 22, posted at 27.02.12 19:46:36 by Ben Reply
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  • Seriously Letgo?? I’ve heard of knee-jerk reactions, but this article has a “Barrack Obama ordering a nuclear strike against Moscow because Dmitri Medvedev said he doesn’t like Bud” vibe about it… 😈

  • Comment 23, posted at 27.02.12 19:48:12 by Culling Song Reply
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  • I love this article. say it like it is Letgo 😎

  • Comment 24, posted at 27.02.12 19:55:00 by jako Reply
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  • My view is that both Daniel and Kankowski are lucky to be in the starting line up. Both are woefully out of form and have been for some time. It looks as though Daniel is hindered by the captaincy. He was a strange choice anyway. Daniel and Kankowski should never start in the same loose trio unless we want to be completely dominated at the breakdown.

    Lol, after last season I can’t believe there are now calls for Bosman to return. We have seen what he can do already. When he came on he had no choice but to swing the ball, the whole team was doing it.

    My back line would be:

    9. McLeod
    10. Michalak
    11. Mvovo
    12. Whitehead
    13. JP (let’s see more of him there)
    14. Ludik/Jordaan (happy to go with Jordaan)
    15. Lambie

  • Comment 25, posted at 27.02.12 20:57:27 by siorc Reply

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  • I like this article too. For too long the Sharks have dished up mediocrity and its about time the fans tell it like it is.

  • Comment 26, posted at 27.02.12 20:59:26 by siorc Reply

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  • Yes it was the first game and yes the team should improve (hopefully) but I challenge anyone to tell me they were happy with the way the Sharks played. The Bulls were unimaginative and poor.

    Our locks were poor (as they were all of last season), the loose trio isn’t balanced and Kanko must seriously be on the verge of Vodacom rugby, Bismark looked bizarrely uninterested and on another forum I visit there are even calls for Burden to replace him, Michalak isn’t going to work as a scrumhalf, Lambie looked poor, etc etc.

    The team better raise the bar significantly or else 2012 will be just another season of disappointment.

    Lots to work on, still early doors.

  • Comment 27, posted at 27.02.12 21:03:30 by siorc Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 23) : Now hold on, a lot of the things I mentioned has been coming for a while now and I was never convinced with the Michelack thing.

    I wouldn’t mind if Tim is given another chance, especially if Charl is there to keep the ball coming to the backs cleanly, but I still think Bosman would be a better choice. Now that JP is next to him he has a player to put into space, which is what he is good at.

    I never said everything I mentioned has to mean changes, but rather said these are things that Plum should consider, maybe a slap on the fingers will fix performances of a few players.

    Bismark, Jannie, Sykes, and a few of the other players also had under par performances, I didn’t say just throw them out. I mentioned the few things where I think Plum didn’t get it right (and in Keegan’s case, won’t get it right for the rest of the season, since his captainship has pretty much locked him in over players like Steph Du Toit, Alberts, Deysel, Marcell, Kanko, Botes, Mtembu – because a few of these players will miss out and Keegan will be preferred ahead of essentially all of them and I don’t think he’s better than any of them – at this moment and for the past year or so).

    The inclusion of Fred just because he’s Fred has annoyed me for a while also. I would never have picked Mich above Lambie, yet Plum started to do this and now he’s picked him at 9 to get him in there. He’s not that good! In fact he’s leaving soon. Put Reinach on the bench and let Mich play Vodacom cup. Mcleod and Lambie has made a good pair and the difference was so clear when he came on that Bosman looked like the best player on the field and that hasn’t been true since Bosman joined the Sharks.

    I like Whitehead, I’ve liked him with the Stormers, in my opinion Bosman is the better option with Lambie and JP. Otherwise I’d put JP at 12, because he runs straight lines and needs a 12 or then 10 that will put him over the advantage line with good passes. With Whitehead he was cleaning out rucks way to much. My concern is not the player, it’s the combination.

    And just to go ultimate “Barrack Obama” on your asses, here’s the ultimate nuclear, after seeing Jordaan for only 15min (EVER)(I have heard of him and watched clips of him) I would make space for him in the team … anywhere. The Sharks needs that spark. That little bit of craziness. I don’t think the score would have been 0-0 with that guy on the field. We may not have lead, but points would have been scored.

    I’ve never been one just to agree and when the team was announced a weak ago I was itching to say something, but everyone was so happy and pleased. I’m happy also, because finally Plum is trying something and hopefully this will give him the guts to make more changes and stick with other experiments where it has worked or where he still feels it has the potential to work.

  • Comment 28, posted at 27.02.12 21:10:38 by Letgo Reply
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  • @MJ (Comment 6) : The guys are very upset. We need to be realistic guys, this weekend in Cape Town will not be a walk in the park. We have a light loose trio and until Alberts and Deysel come back, we might not be able to dominate the other teams in our conference. Bissie can’t go to battle on his own. We need at least 5 guys in the pack to tell themselves that we are go to battle. It’s not as if Kanko and Keegan are built for war! We are already at a disadvantage and unless the other guys pull their weight, Kanko and Keegan will not come into the game. We might need to think of a loose foward combo containing Botes, Deysel and Alberts in the future with Deysel being replaced by Marcell at the start of the 2nd half.

  • Comment 29, posted at 27.02.12 21:13:02 by GreatSharksays Reply

  • @siorc (Comment 25) : Geez dude, Michelack, just when I thought we’re going to agree on something. But yeah, both Kanko and Keegan, although I’m a big fan has been out of form and without their spark for some time.

    Bosman didn’t have much to work with last year. He is not the type of player that makes breaks and creates the magic, he needs players next to him like that, and if he has that he’ll deliver good ball to them and give them the opportunity to work their magic. But like I still, as an individual player I like Whitehead and maybe with time he will combine better with his midfield partner.

    I get the call for Lambie at 15 though, he has had some special performances there. I’d give Viljoen another shot.

  • Comment 30, posted at 27.02.12 21:15:30 by Letgo Reply
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  • @siorc (Comment 26) : Or just tell it like “we think” it is. 🙂

  • Comment 31, posted at 27.02.12 21:16:43 by Letgo Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 29) : And if you’re going to pick a mobile backrow, why ask them to bash it up with every single possession. It’s insanity. If you’re going to select these guys give them a game plan that will make them potent. The other guys will want to drive them of their feet, so instruct them to make more offloads, run supportive lines on the runner’s shoulder and not to try to barge over the defense, but rather as a pop pass or offload option.

    Play smarter. Keegan – Kankowski. These guys are talented, exciting, brilliant rugby players. If they play the game that suites them, it will be difficult for other teams to defend. Plum insists on Playing a bulldog game when he’s working with a (sorry keegan) Chihuahua.

  • Comment 32, posted at 27.02.12 21:26:39 by Letgo Reply
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  • 😈 OOOH, I can’t agree here.
    Keegan plays a good consistent game and he must have great leadership abilities otherwise he would not have been entrusted to be the Sharks’ captain.
    The major code is for a team to play together. Although the teams played very conservative in the first half, there were too many opportunities where an individual tried to open up a hole in the Bulls’ defence. Most of this happened from a standing start and Marcell was the only player to do it at speed. But in the engine room Daniels, Kanko and Bisi worked very hard. Bisi was penalised for not coming through the gate, which was an absurd call by Caplan and he was reprimanded for a high tackle. (Obvious call) We played well in the line outs, Kanko losing one, winning one and Sykes losing one.

    Freddie had the worst start, knocking pickups, choosing the short side when it was not on, kicking an aimless one and being indecisive. With enough ball in hand our passes let us down and Lambie should have been more accurate at goal. We should have lead at half time!!

    Bisi was called for “Boking” at our first lineout to Bresler. (Another absurd call.) Ludik kept Basson at bay and the speedster was employed to chase aerials all night, playing Ludick and Sykes in the air at kick-offs, but Ludick did great.
    Basson did expose us once or twice as well when nobody called the kickoff (we were poor) and ripped the ball from Ludick. The new breakdown rule and the way the ref interpreted it lead to great confusion in the second half. (Not just in this game.) I feel that the ref was more lenient towards the Bulls but then again, I can’t be called objective. 😆

    Daniels was blown for coming in from the side (absurd) and going off his feet (good call.) Our forwards hammered the Bulls in EVERY scrum and both Jannie and Dale regularly wrestled the Bulls pack to the ground at scrum.
    Coetzee step well, and Daniel & Bresler defended well when Mvovo struggled with the high ball but Bresler’s not rolling away made way for some more Morne points. Janie again bullied Dean Greyling but Caplan made another absurd call, giving Greyling the penalty. The SS Afrikaans commentator (Wiese) went: aaaaahhg!!! ( I just could not bear listening to the 2 English speaking plonks anymore!!!) 😕

    Bisi then put his hands in the ruck (bad call Bisi) Kanko kept putting a lot of pressure on Hougaart (all, night) and chased all kicks well and missed only one first line tackles but caught up with the player and stopped him.

    Caplan made his next absurd call when penalising Whitehead and McLeod at the breakdown for not releasing the player while it is as clear as day that Whitehead made room before collecting the ball at a crucial point (11 penalies vs 4 for the bulls!!!)
    Daniels, Skeate, Sykes and Bisi defended well in the second half (and the Bulls backline went nowhere) and the bruising went on as Herbst wrestled the bulls to the ground in the scrums.

    The bench made a huge impact and Pietersen tried his best to get things going, but could not offload. When we did play the ball wide we scored a try (maybe a forward pass)
    We knocked and lost a line out in the final 2 minutes but these guys being criticized (Bisi, Daniels, Bresler) gave it their all until the 82 minute.
    When you are working hard in the engine room you are not visible on TV. Our forwards were great on the night, all of them. (You need to make room for some human error)
    My call: Do not mess too much with this team except for McLeod (start instead of Freddie) and give Botes more time on the field. 😈

  • Comment 33, posted at 27.02.12 22:18:33 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • I’m cool with your assessment. It’s optimistic, which I suppose is good at the start of the season.

    I expect more of the Sharks though, I know they give their all every time, but if that leads to a 0-0 half time score and a loss, against a Bulls team, which lets face it, won’t threaten as much as previous years, it’s just not good enough and a very tough questions need to be looked at.

  • Comment 34, posted at 27.02.12 22:32:00 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 34) : I was crushed by the loss & I watch the games alone (except for my daughter) because I become way too pasionate and verbal. Yes, we were the better team on the night but it did not go our way on the score board. We need a lot of work, but I could not find one player that did not try his best. Maybe watch the game again and check out the less obvious inputs by Daniels, Bresler and Kanko. They stemmed every tide when the Bulls tried to move the ball and keeping Hougaart and Basson in check took some effort.

  • Comment 35, posted at 27.02.12 22:39:43 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • The choice of backrow should complement your play.

    For a long time the Sharks looked to dominate upfront, and because of the nature of the game we played, space was often created in broken play, which suited runners like Daniel and Kanko.

    However, if you are going to attack more with the backline, then you need to fall back on traditional forward roles – winning and contesting ball, defending around the rucks, and staying out of the way of the backline.

    This is the style that the Stormers employ, and its why they get the best of some limited personnel – they maximise the impact of their skills, and theyr minimise the exposure of their weaknesses – Seabiscuit Vermeulen and Peter Grant being good examples of limited players with specific strengths who can shine in this role-oriented team.

    If the Sharks want the backs to create the tries, then they cant afford to carry forwards who shirk their primary responsibility and shine in other ways. That means that Kanko (and possibly Daniel) will have to either adapt their game or face being dropped.

    My prediction (and hope) is that our starting loose trio will soon be 6-Daniel, 7-Coetzee and 8-Alberts. Daniel, Botes and Kanko to fight it out for 1 starting and 1 bench spot.

    The Stormers have often shown that structured rugby, with defined roles, creates more tries than the helter-skelter style the Sharks sometimes play. If we want the best from the talents of Lambie, Whitehead, JP, Mvovo and others, then the forwards are going to have to go back to basics.

  • Comment 36, posted at 27.02.12 23:46:24 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 36) : The backrow I want to see is 6.Daniel 7.Alberts 8.Coetsee

  • Comment 37, posted at 28.02.12 00:12:26 by Ben Reply
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  • Very harsh for the the first game of the season letgo and blaming Kankowski’s form on Keegan doesn’t lend much credibilty to the rest of your opinions. Also, Jordaan was not involved in that try. It was Tim in both phases! Don’t believe everything the commentators tell you! 😉

  • Comment 38, posted at 28.02.12 00:54:42 by vanmartin Reply
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  • so, with resepect, I’m going to state that I completely disagree.

    You don’t drop your squad captain after one performance. That’s madness!

    Keegan is the best option we’ve got to lead this side… let’s get out of the way and let him do that.

  • Comment 39, posted at 28.02.12 05:25:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • There must be changes, yes, in this long season it could be suicidal to play the exact same team twice, but going all gung ho and dropping half the team wont work!
    One thing we did need was a 2nd power forward. Some teams can play with two agile, pacey guys, but our game plan doesnt suit this. We also need a scrumhalf! A real one! I want to see Reinach get a spot on the bench, and McLeod start, Fred’s leaving soon, so we need to know what our backup can do! Also swap Bresler and Skeate
    My team for the Stormers would be
    1. Chadwick
    2. Bismark
    3. Jannie
    4. Sykes
    5. Skeate
    6. Keegan
    7. Botes
    8. Marcell
    9. McLeod
    10. Lambie
    11. Mvovo
    12. Timmy
    13. JPP
    14. Jordaan/Ludik
    15. Viljoen

    16. Herbst
    17. Burden
    18. Bresler
    19. Kanko/PSDT
    20. Reinach
    21. Bosman
    22. Jordaan/Ndungane

  • Comment 40, posted at 28.02.12 06:25:56 by Die Kriek Reply

  • I thick the fans are being a bit harsh after just one game. my take on the game was that we should have played one or 2 more preseason games. We looked rusty and unprepared. i think whitehead was our best player on the night. as far as keegan goes, i will always back him. at this stage the hoff is a week link, but because i know what he can do on a good day i would still pick him.

    2.bissi(only fetcher at the moment)
    8.the hoff
    15. viljoen


  • Comment 41, posted at 28.02.12 07:12:45 by Jakes 08 Reply

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  • @Die Kriek (Comment 40) : wow Kriek, I like ur starting XV!

    I might just swop Timmie and Bosman..get the game going with more experience and then let the baby dawgs make the killing!

  • Comment 42, posted at 28.02.12 07:17:14 by Ice Reply
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  • Plum insists on Playing a bulldog game when he’s working with a (sorry keegan) Chihuahua. 😆 that was funny! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 43, posted at 28.02.12 07:22:48 by Ice Reply
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  • @Die Kriek (Comment 40) :
    I would like to make a change to my team

    7. Marcell
    8. Willem Alberts

    19. Kanko/Botes

    “The good news however, is that flank Willem Alberts has been cleared to play, having undergone extensive rehabilitation during the off-season and will add extra firepower to The Sharks on attack and defence.”

  • Comment 44, posted at 28.02.12 07:23:32 by Die Kriek Reply

  • @siorc (Comment 25) : @Letgo (Comment 32) : @KILLER SHARK (Comment 33) :

    I’m the one who has been calling for Burden to replace Bissie due to Bissie’s lack of pace and discipline over the last 2 to 3 years. I haven’t agreed with him being “the best hooker in the world”, for that position see Kevin Mealaumu!

    I completely agree with Letgo about either Kanko OR Keegan but not both. My ideal loose trio if we’re playing “bash it up rugby” would be:

    6. Botes
    7. Deysel/Alberts
    8. Alberts/Coetzee

    If we want the lighter loosies in the team then we should be running for space and not face!!!

  • Comment 45, posted at 28.02.12 09:50:46 by ChrisS Reply

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