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Kanko out of action -Updated


Written by Iza Loubser (Ice)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 29 Feb 2012 at 08:37
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Springbok and Sharks 8th man, Ryan Kankowski will be sidelined for the next four to six weeks, following a hairline fracture in his thumb, picked up in the opening match against the Bulls last Friday.

Kanko’s thumb will go under the knife this morning and this might force Sharks coach, John Plumtree to throw strongman Willem Alberts into the deep end for this weekends game against the Stomers at Newlands.

Although Plum would have liked to “ease” Alberts into the game, as he has not played since last years Currie Cup, he might not have much of a choice now.

The other alternative might be to move Daniel to 8th man, bring in Botes at flank with Marcell Coetzee, however this might be to light an option for the clash against the Stormers.

If I can throw in my 2 cents worth here, I would do either of the following: keep Alberts on the bench, as originally planned, start with Daniel at 6, Pieter-Steph at 7 and Coetzee at 8. However, if we need the strenght of Alberts from the start, make it Daniel, Alberts and Coetzee. Just a thought, Plum..


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  • ai tog ….

  • Comment 1, posted at 29.02.12 08:31:54 by Zibbie Reply
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  • Where is the hairline fracture, Ysie?

    Is it the thumb again?

  • Comment 2, posted at 29.02.12 08:38:07 by Pokkel Reply
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  • My two cents would be to move Coetzee to 8, keep Daniel at 6 and bring in Alberts at 7 with Botes covering from the bench. Or even have Pieter-Steph on the bench.

  • Comment 3, posted at 29.02.12 08:39:04 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • ice being a bit Blond this morning πŸ˜›

  • Comment 4, posted at 29.02.12 08:40:46 by Zibbie Reply
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  • This story is such big news we ran it twice. πŸ™‚

  • Comment 5, posted at 29.02.12 08:43:37 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • problem solved…. YO!

  • Comment 6, posted at 29.02.12 08:49:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • The heading should have been : ‘Zibbie forced into transfer after round 1 .. ‘

  • Comment 7, posted at 29.02.12 08:51:55 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : Thank you!

    @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 5) : @Zibbie (Comment 4) : Jaaaa, jaaaa!!! πŸ˜† (apologies!)

  • Comment 8, posted at 29.02.12 08:54:39 by Ice Reply
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  • What about giving Fran Kleynheins a chance?

  • Comment 9, posted at 29.02.12 08:59:25 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 3) : Should Alberts start though?

  • Comment 10, posted at 29.02.12 09:01:16 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 9) : Would like to see Warren Whiteley return home!

    I would though replace like for like and take a big chance by throwing Terra Mthembu in at 8,daniel 6, coetzee 7.

    Mthembu brings a similar flair to kanko but is looking hungry.

    On the wings I would play mvovo and Sbura to counter the stormers pace.

    Mcleod back at 9

  • Comment 11, posted at 29.02.12 09:08:50 by chucky Reply

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  • @chucky (Comment 11) :

    NO !! leave Warren alone … we like him up here in Jozi !!!

  • Comment 12, posted at 29.02.12 09:13:56 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 7) : You think you have it bad?? I lost Masaga and Schalk in the first round and Nonu isn’t being played this weekend πŸ™

  • Comment 13, posted at 29.02.12 09:17:10 by ChrisS Reply
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  • dunno how we lost him. At school he was actually an out and out opensider. Glenwood loose trio of Warren Whiteley, Ian Adendorff and Bryan Shabangu/Kyle Cooper caused havock

  • Comment 14, posted at 29.02.12 09:17:58 by chucky Reply

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  • @chucky (Comment 11) : I’d also like Sbura to start or otherwise Jordaan. We need flair and explosiveness!!!

  • Comment 15, posted at 29.02.12 09:18:18 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 12) :

    Quickly becoming the darling of the Lions …

    Loads of supporters love him …he plays 150% every game and saved our hides in a couple of CC near the end ..

    So Chucky HAND OFF !!! …ditto Rhodes πŸ˜€

  • Comment 16, posted at 29.02.12 09:19:44 by csb Reply

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  • @chucky (Comment 14) : It’s why the Lions are so good on the ground! Minnie, Wickus, Grobelaar and Whitely can all fetch.

    Currie Cup Final last year showed us that a fetcher is a must!!

  • Comment 17, posted at 29.02.12 09:19:44 by ChrisS Reply
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  • 😈 Sad for Kanko and both his thumb and hailine fracture – I hope it is on the same hand and not both??:mrgreen:
    Alberts should get back on the field ASAP. His first game may either be mediocre or brilliant but he should not have rookie nerves. Back him up with Terra or Pieter-Steph. As we know, Bisi, Alberts and DANIEL (my dog, I think I got it ICE!)will bring enough drive. Botes showed some intent as well and might just play from the start. 😈

  • Comment 18, posted at 29.02.12 09:21:39 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @chucky (Comment 14) :

    I dont think he would have gotten a chance at the Sharks to be fair

  • Comment 19, posted at 29.02.12 09:23:06 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @csb (Comment 16) :

    You referring to the ladies now hey πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 20, posted at 29.02.12 09:24:29 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 17) : Yes thats true. If they not slowing down your momentum, they stealing ball and causing you to regroup your defences. which often leads to panic and confusion when facing the fleet footed Jantjies, Killian, Taute, Mapoe etc.

    With all due respect they are alot like a poor mans Beale, James O’connor, Drew Mitchell etc.

    @csb (Comment 16) : Not too keen on Rhodes but he has reignited his career at the Lions. At the sharks he enetered with a big reputation and was unable to get the necessary opportunities. New environment and coach with NO pre conceptions does wonders!

  • Comment 21, posted at 29.02.12 09:25:34 by chucky Reply

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  • “move Daniel to 8th man, bring in Botes at flank with Marcell Coetzee”

    I`ll go with this option.
    Botes really looked hungry for action when he came on against the bulls.
    He needs to start. It`ll solve our possession problems.

  • Comment 22, posted at 29.02.12 09:26:10 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 19) : Yes he (Whiteley) has talent but to be fair his major strength is his NEVER giving up attitude. The guy wont quit and is fitter than most backs. He pushes above his weight and somehow never misses a tackle EVER.

  • Comment 23, posted at 29.02.12 09:28:24 by chucky Reply

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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 22) : Dont be surprised if PSDT comes in. We need timber against any opposition especially Bulls and Stormers and last week we saw what happens when you dont have the timber to win compete let alone your own ball.

    Botes does well off the bench but in Coetzee/Daniel and Botes you lack BIG time in height.

    I would play Skeate at 5,PSDT at 7. Bresler and Botes covering the bench

  • Comment 24, posted at 29.02.12 09:31:30 by chucky Reply

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  • I would def. go for 6.keegan 7.Du Toit 8.Coetzee ,Alberts ease him in off the bench. I don’t care that Du Toit doesn’t have experience and what not, he is good enough, so play him…when does a 7 ever actually use experience…it is as simple as catch the ball and try and run over as many people as possible πŸ™‚

    If Plum chooses Du toit to start Kankowski’s injury will be a blessing in disguise in my eyes, and lets be honest, most of us have not been happy with his performances for a long time now, now hopefully Coetzee can shine in his natural position of 8th man and make the jersey his own.

    Just hope Plum doesn’t go Keegan and Botes in same loosetrio…that’s never gonna work.

  • Comment 25, posted at 29.02.12 09:32:17 by JJR Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 20) :

    πŸ˜† ofcourse!

    The guys in suits and dark glasses and a big cheque book. 😎

  • Comment 26, posted at 29.02.12 09:35:13 by csb Reply

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  • @chucky (Comment 21) :

    New environment and coach with NO pre conceptions does wonders!

    Very true.

  • Comment 27, posted at 29.02.12 09:36:42 by csb Reply

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  • 😈 Not too worried about big guys up front, we now need fetchers who can stay on their feet (support own body weight even when scrumed from behind) at the breakdown – a brand new skill 😈

  • Comment 28, posted at 29.02.12 09:43:23 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • surely it’s more than a hairline fracture if it requires surgery…

  • Comment 29, posted at 29.02.12 09:45:46 by lostfish Reply
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  • Maybe this is the rest that Kanko needs and for others to show what they can do. Everyone was calling for him to bench or drop from the side – this is unexpected and I hope he recovers quickly. πŸ˜•

  • Comment 30, posted at 29.02.12 09:45:49 by Caratacus Reply

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  • Isn’t steph du toit a lock? Surely it’s taking a gamble playing a lock at flank. If kleyheins is not injured he should be given a chance!

  • Comment 31, posted at 29.02.12 09:49:48 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @chucky (Comment 24) : Chucky, Marcell is 1cm shorter than Alberts..where’s the lack of height in that one?

  • Comment 32, posted at 29.02.12 09:50:04 by Ice Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 22) :

    Please not that loose trio….It has NEVER worked having Keegan and Botes both starting.

    Botes looked good against the Bulls in the last 15min but he will not have the same sort of impact for 80 minutes.

  • Comment 33, posted at 29.02.12 09:53:59 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 31) : There is a reason he played at 7 for most of the pre-season games, but yes he is a lock, but can do the carry it up role and support our other 2 locks in the lineouts.

  • Comment 34, posted at 29.02.12 09:54:11 by JJR Reply
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  • All the best to Kanko, hope he recovers soon. And for his own good, I hope Marcell can make the nr.8 jersey his. Maybe then Kanko will return to form to try and regain it

  • Comment 35, posted at 29.02.12 09:54:15 by Die Kriek Reply

     
  • I will Bet Coetzee will be at 8 this weekend…and if i know Plum he won’t go for Botes/Keegan in same loose trio…so really hope Du Toit gets his debut and Alberts can come on in the second half…maybe we can then move Du toit to lock if we want to keep his grunt on the field.

  • Comment 36, posted at 29.02.12 09:57:07 by JJR Reply
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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 31) : have u SEEN PSDT at flank??

  • Comment 37, posted at 29.02.12 10:03:15 by Ice Reply
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  • @ice, no as I did not see the trials game. I have seen Kleynheins though and rate him very highly, in fact slightly better than Coetzee.

  • Comment 38, posted at 29.02.12 10:05:34 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 37) :

    Have YOU seen PSDT at flank?

  • Comment 39, posted at 29.02.12 10:05:54 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 25) : Agreed!

  • Comment 40, posted at 29.02.12 10:06:19 by vanmartin Reply
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  • All this speculation is useless. Alberts will start.

  • Comment 41, posted at 29.02.12 10:07:03 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 10) : Ideally not, but with Kanko out we don’t have much of a choice. I’m not a fan of a Daniel, Botes, Coetzee combo. Maybe Daniel, Du Toit, Coetzee or Daniel, Coetzee, Mthembu combo’s will work better.

  • Comment 42, posted at 29.02.12 10:07:44 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 38) : Kleinhans is too light for a 7…Kleinhans is a great fetcher and also a good number 8; but not a 7. He is probably only 105kg max right now…and not in the 1.90m region if i remember correctly, so really don’t think he is a 7. I actually believe he should be The Sharks number 6 right now…but his time will come.

  • Comment 43, posted at 29.02.12 10:10:52 by JJR Reply
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  • Would bring in Pieter now. As much as we need Alberts to start don’t think it is a good thing to rush him straight in. Rather let him ease his way back in. Alberts is one of our main players for our Sharks this season and really don’t need him injured straight up.

    Would play Marcel at 8 with Pieter at 7 and if it was me, would have Botes in at 6 with Keegan on the bench. Now that Keegan is our captain he has to start. So Keegan to start at 6. Bring in Alberts in the 2nd half at 8 and move Marcell to 7. That would be the way I would go this weekend. Would also have Mcleod starting ahead of Freddie with Jordaan on at 14.

  • Comment 44, posted at 29.02.12 10:15:35 by Puma Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 39) : Nope, that’s why I asked him – cannot say its a gamble if they have used him there and had great reviews!

  • Comment 45, posted at 29.02.12 10:16:05 by Ice Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 41) : Probably will start. Just hope he is ready and don’t injure that shoulder again. Such a long, long season this and we need Alberts for the duration of it.

  • Comment 46, posted at 29.02.12 10:17:50 by Puma Reply

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  • Steven Sykes has played on the side of the scrum before. He might be a heavyweight option here as well amongst the other more obvious candidates.

  • Comment 47, posted at 29.02.12 10:19:36 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 47) : Could be…but the way and speed The Sharks are looking to play at…don’t know if it would work that well, but yes it is an option.

  • Comment 48, posted at 29.02.12 10:26:41 by JJR Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 44) :

    I agree. We need a genuine lineout option at the back, particularly if Plum keeps Bresler and Sykes as a combination. If we are going to embrace more of a running game we need a lineout option at the back as the ball off the top off 1st phase will allow the backline to have a real go. Blooding Jordaan is also a good possibility as I dont think the Stormers will rely as much as the Bulls on using aerial tactics and Jordaan has real x-factor.

  • Comment 49, posted at 29.02.12 10:27:23 by Pat Reply

     
  • We so thin at loose forward, maybe Plum should polish his boots up for another crack!

  • Comment 50, posted at 29.02.12 10:27:39 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • What is the bet, Plumtree will favor experience and pick Botes on the blindside.

    Might not be a bad call, the Sharks need to win this one, or their season starts looking ‘not so promising’.

    Pieter Steph might be better saved for a first run against a side which won’t bring the same sort of physicality.

  • Comment 51, posted at 29.02.12 10:31:54 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 50) : πŸ™‚ We thin at Looseforward? that is a first…Sharks are never thin at looseforward, it is whether Plum has the plums to back the youngsters.

  • Comment 52, posted at 29.02.12 10:33:11 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR, yep that is what I meant. Thin for experienced and decent loosies, tons of junior talent. We need to entice the likes of Shaun Adendorff and Warren Whiteley back to their home province. We just got outmuscled by the Bulls loosies last week….

  • Comment 53, posted at 29.02.12 10:37:09 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Pat (Comment 49) : Yes as our lineouts was a problem again on Friday as much as it was last year. We need to sort that out right now at the start of this season. Pieter was good at Flank for the CC but he is a Lock. We should be using him.

    Yes I thought Jordaan went well when he came on on Friday. Would start with him at 14 this Saturday. Also think Mcleod needs to start.

  • Comment 54, posted at 29.02.12 10:38:49 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 54) : Sorry not the CC meant to say the warm up games where Pieter went really well.

  • Comment 55, posted at 29.02.12 10:41:30 by Puma Reply

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  • I thought Bissie had a mare this weekend, maybe play him at flank and Burden at hooker! A real last option. Kyle Cooper when fit should be the no2 hooker, he too can play flank as he did at school….

  • Comment 56, posted at 29.02.12 10:43:55 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Grasshopper you just won’t stop punting Glenwood boys,Kleinhans better than Coetzee,they honestly don’t need all those Glenwood boys back,hell their Vodacom Cup team has some impressive loose forwards,Chris Cloete,Byrandt Stander,Terra Mthembu,Kleinhans and others coming up Siseko Jafta,Khaya Majola,Johan Meyer

  • Comment 57, posted at 29.02.12 11:00:04 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz, of course mate just like you punting Old Queenians ;-).

  • Comment 58, posted at 29.02.12 11:06:34 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • Yeah,but I’d pushing it a little if I said Johan Meyer is better than Marcel Coetzee or Terra Mthembu or for that matter saying Sbura is a better than Mvovo,he has the potential to be,but I genuinely wouldn’t say that now

  • Comment 59, posted at 29.02.12 11:27:06 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz, Kleyheins was in the same SA Under 20 side as Coetzee, he is in the same league as Marcell at least. I think an injury or 2 might have stopped Frans progress but when fully fit should be in contention or be lost to another franchise soon like many others frustrated at the Sharks…

  • Comment 60, posted at 29.02.12 11:46:13 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • I dont see the problem. Botes/Daniel doesnt work, everyone knows that! So either play PSD or Mthembu or Kleinhans or risk Alberts. This is professional rugby. Its sink or swim time for the youngsters! We are sometimes too cautious in this country. NZ or OZ teams wud not be asking these question, the next in line…wether he is 35 or 15 would be thrown in!

  • Comment 61, posted at 29.02.12 12:31:16 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Agree that they’re probably in the same league,but Marcell right now is the best loose forward at the Sharks,with the return of Alberts he’s gonna be 1 of 2,Kleinhans at the moment is way down the order with Daniel,Coetzee,Kanko,Botes,Alberts,Mtembu,PSdT all ahead of him

  • Comment 62, posted at 29.02.12 12:33:16 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz, well time for him to be looking elsewhere then, maybe the Lions or Bulls, as they seem to like good KZN school flank talent. Daniel in my opinion is too light, Coetzee I have never seen play (I know he has gym strength though), Kanko is another softy who never gets stuck in, Alberts is a machine but maybe a lock (like Danie Roussouw), Botes is great but getting a long in the tooth and I can’t comment on Mtembu or PSdt as they are new names to me who I have not seen play. For me the future is Coetzee, Kleynheins and probably this Coetzee bloke as the loosies

  • Comment 63, posted at 29.02.12 13:50:16 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 63) : what do u mean u have never seen Coetzee play??

    So your future is Kleynhans and Coetzee square… πŸ˜† I like that! MC2 hehehehe

  • Comment 64, posted at 29.02.12 14:08:20 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice, I live in the UK and am only in Durbs maybe twice a year and usually watch school games when I am there. I do have Sky here but they only cover Super 15 and Currie Cup, so no Vodacom Cup, Under21, Under19 or clubs. All I know is that bloggers claim he can bench press 170kg, which too me is a little white lie as Andrew Sheridan the English prop and strongest man in rugby only benches 220kg. He might be a great player but I have not seen him play..

  • Comment 65, posted at 29.02.12 14:19:26 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 65) : he played some SR and the CC last year if I am correct..

    Believe me when I say, this is a new kid on the block! He defends like a lion attacking his prey! He is big and solid! (I know, I got a hug from him on Friday) πŸ˜‰ and if stats are corrrect he is only 13kgs lighter than Willem and 1cm shorter.

  • Comment 66, posted at 29.02.12 14:28:14 by Ice Reply
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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 65) : Burden benches about 180 and Michael Claasens benches about 160kg…possible that Coetzee benches 170kg.

    Which 2 Coetzees are you talking about, Marcell and?

  • Comment 67, posted at 29.02.12 14:29:14 by ChrisS Reply
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  • Whoops, sorry I am getting mixed up between Coetzee and Cloete. I have abviously seen Coetzee play but not this Chris Cloete bloke…

  • Comment 68, posted at 29.02.12 14:29:39 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • I would love to see Claasens bench 160kg! Now that is a joke. These are obviously 1 rep powerlifting reps. I am a big bloke (105kg and 6ft3) and gym quite a bit and at my peak I could do 150kg one rep and 130kg for ten reps. I believe Pocock from Australia can do 170kg for 1 rep…

  • Comment 69, posted at 29.02.12 14:32:28 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 53) : Oh sweet πŸ™‚

  • Comment 70, posted at 29.02.12 14:38:05 by JJR Reply
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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 69) : Yes, 1 rep maximum! Claasens was one of the strongest guys in SA rugby. Another strong scrummy was George Gregan. He apparently benched 170kg or 180kg.

    Pocock’s top is 180kg. Friend of mine who played for the Force said that Pocock was the strongest man he’d ever seen…and this was when Pocock had just turned 19.

  • Comment 71, posted at 29.02.12 14:42:01 by ChrisS Reply
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  • The man grassy’s talking about would be Christopher Cloete,not Marcel Coetzee,at 18 Cloete benched 150 kg and now he’s 21,surely now he could probably hit 180 kg,c’mon Grassy just admit that you were a little angry at everyone reffering to Cloete as the next big thing at openside for the Sharks and you thought that honour belonged to Francois Kleinhans,tell you what I do see,Cloete at 6,Marcel at 7 and Mthembu at 8thman,Sharks future,Kleinhans off the bench

  • Comment 72, posted at 29.02.12 14:59:51 by Ludz Reply

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  • As an ex gym instructor I still don’t believe a 21 year old who weighs maybe 100kg can bench 180kg. World powerlifters in that weight category just about do that. I don’t even think any Bok can do that, maybe CJ Van der Linde came close. Anyway, strength aside, as it only one aspect of rugby and gym strenght does not always transfer to the field this Chris Cloete must be good, did he play in the Sharks trials? Why is he not in the squad?

  • Comment 73, posted at 29.02.12 16:44:20 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 73) : I weigh 77kg and my 1 rep max, unassisted and taking the bar off myself, was 97kg before I tore my shoulder. That was after about 3 months of hard gyming so I think it is possible.

  • Comment 74, posted at 29.02.12 16:48:50 by ChrisS Reply
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  • I just checked the world powerlifting record in the 93kg class, 300kg! So yes it’s possible but those blokes arms are so short the bar moves about 10cm up and down. I think for rugby it more about stamina so doing 10 good reps at 120kg is far better than 1 rep at 180kg. Anyway, Chris must be strong but I would love to see it for myself. Gym stories are always inflated, it’s in man’s nature…

  • Comment 75, posted at 29.02.12 16:57:41 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 75) : Also struggle to see the value of a bench press stat in rugby. I would love it if they could somehow attach a pressure meter to a scrumming machine and measure the force that a scrummager can exert.

  • Comment 76, posted at 29.02.12 17:07:15 by beet Reply
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  • @Beet, agreed. I can tell you what I call ‘ballie’ strength from older blokes in their 30’s and 40’s and ‘natural’ strength eg Bakkies and Schalk is far more useful on the rugby field than if a bloke can bench 180kg….it’s about explosive power, so maybe what they can clean and jerk would be better or bleep test etc….I have seen many a muscle bound gym freak get pasted on the rugby field….

  • Comment 77, posted at 29.02.12 17:47:40 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • Pierre Spies is a classic example, hectically strong in the gym but always going back on the rugga field…

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 78) : I can benchpress a bottle of wine about 200 reps πŸ˜†

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