Plum backs his man

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 8 Mar 2012 at 09:00
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After two rounds of Super Rugby action – and only two serious games in his new position, some would say that it’s a little premature for John Plumtree to be touting JP Pietersen as a potential Springbok option at outside centre.

In an interview with, though, that exactly what the coach has done, saying that he believed his man Pietersen has probably been the best of the local 13s on show after two weeks of action. You’ve got to applaud the coach for a number of things here, not least of which was the willingness to try something “left field” in moving the lanky player from wing to centre in the first place. After all, Pietersen has regularly been one of the most consistent and lethal players in the Sharks backline over the last few years, playing on the wing.

I think it’s great the way Plum has shown faith in JP and is willing to publicly back him; the player has obviously taken a lot of confidence from the coach’s backing and seems to be adapting well to the position, learning more about it each week. While I’m always loathe to select potential international sides after just a few weeks of action, I have to agree with Plum to an extent; certainly if Pietersen can maintain his current level of play over the next few months, he’ll be in with a real shout of a Bok call-up at centre once the national selectors sit down to discuss their options for 2012.

Said Plumtree of Pietersen, “He’s adapted quicker to the position than I thought he would. He’s added another string to his bow. I think it’s great for him to be considered at wing or at centre for the Boks. He’s been excellent there, he’s a real threat and the opposition will have to watch him.” Pietersen, also talking to Rugby365, was a little more reserved, adding “It’s a process of learning every week. You can talk about it, but the best place to learn is on the field. It’s also about getting defensively good and getting into the right positions to attack the ball and defend well too.”

Keep up the good work, Paula! We’re all very proud of what you’re doing mate.


  • Paula 😈
    I still need convincing.

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.03.12 09:04:55 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 1) : why?

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.03.12 09:06:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • I had JP in my Team of the Week ! :mrgreen:

    Olivier had an easy game against non existant defense.

    JP kept the Bok centres at bay for 80 minutes, that counts for a lot more in my book.

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.03.12 09:07:06 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • I think it was a great move and maybe a bit overdue…same as Habana moving to 13. I also think Taute should move closer to the ball. In the modern game team’s defenses are getting better and better and thats why you need your most attacking players gettting the ball as often as possible. Pietersen will get his hands on the ball more often and have more space to work with at 13 than on the wing. Just look at how many times James O’Connor, Digby Ioane, Richard Kahui, Conrad Smith etc receive the balll from a ruck or from 1 pass later.

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.03.12 09:13:21 by SheldonK Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : Because we havent played against the best in the competition yet. He is doing a great job now, but a few more games may proof otherwise.

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.03.12 09:17:20 by JarsonX Reply
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  • Original Pierre,what is wrong with you Sharks people,now all of a sudden he was better than Wynand? Nee man,don’t get my pressure to go up so early in the morning. Fact is Wynand looked twice as good albeit against a terrible Cheetahs side. I’d pick Wynand Olivier ahead of Pietersen at the Boks,hell Meyer would pick him ahead of Pietersen

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.03.12 09:18:55 by Ludz Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 6) : we all know what Meyer’s going to do… please don’t depress us further just yet! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.03.12 09:23:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ludz (Comment 6) : Fact is Wynand is a “never has been” got attention because of his pretty boy looks and goldie locks. In truth he plays well but his ceiling of potential is at super Rugby.
    Was lucky to make the 07 RWC squad ahead of the in form Wally Murray.

    @SheldonK (Comment 4) : I would defintely move Taute to 13. Mossie made a success of it after starting as a 19 year old FB in 2002. Then Id play Killian at 15 with mapoe back on at 14/11

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.03.12 09:28:10 by chucky Reply

  • @chucky (Comment 8) : agree re meisiekind. And i quite like JP at 13 plus the fact that Plum backs him.

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.03.12 09:30:39 by Crock Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 6) : Which Bulls players would you NOT pick for the Boks? 😈

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.03.12 09:32:45 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : @Ludz (Comment 6) : Yep the Bulls masquerading in green and gold. Meisikind must just be thrilled at the choice of Bok coach whont have to change any of his hair appointments for practice 👿

    Ludz between JP and Olivier there is no comparison, JP has never let the Boks down whereas we all have seen that Green and Gold stuns Olivier, I don’t know maybe he feels the green doesn’t go with his complexion :mrgreen:

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.03.12 09:33:49 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • to be fair, Wynand has always looked a lot better at 13 than at 12… not sure why the Bulls never realised that

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.03.12 09:38:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @chucky (Comment 8) : Well the Lions def need a 13 – Doppies is a flank turned 12, but is not a great attacker. We are so pedestrian in this country is scary. We are so scared to move a guy out of his position. Wat crap- his position. He is a professional. Yes obviously backs cant be moved to the forwards and vice versa but backline players should be able to play anywhere. Same as the loose trio. Our best players need to be on the field and getting the ball…simple as that!

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.03.12 09:51:57 by SheldonK Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : I also seem to remember Olivier looking good against the Sharks as well.

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.03.12 09:56:32 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • JP can already play anywhere in the back 3 – being able to play 13 too will extend is career a few years, and improve his all-round skills as an outside back.

    I’m glad Plumtree has gone public on his high regard. Like JdV said in the lead up to last week’s game, its amazing and inexplicable how often JP has been written off by scribes and fans.

    To use JdV’s own words: “JP is one of the most underrated players in South Africa. Its always sad to see him get written off when he plays for South Africa. His abilities are often questioned.”

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.03.12 10:02:09 by Big Fish Reply
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  • You guys amuse with all the meisiekind jokes,fact is Wynand,9 times out of 10, will probably make the guy facing him at centre look like rubbish at Super Rugby level. PLEASE NOTE I didn’t say he’s done well at Test level,merely pointing out that Meyer will take Wynand at 13 ahead of JP any day

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.03.12 11:18:47 by Ludz Reply

  • @SheldonK. Doppies started playing at scrumhalf. I couldn’t agree more with the rest of your comments.

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.03.12 11:21:48 by Bite me Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 16) : Biased much?

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.03.12 11:38:27 by Ben Reply
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  • @Bite me (Comment 17) : Yeh i know he wasnt a flank, i just said it cos ofthe way he plays- more like a flank that a creative backline player. Big boy for a scrumhalf…a change back to scrummie would be interesting!

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.03.12 11:40:59 by SheldonK Reply

  • @Big Fish (Comment 15) : I swear it his build that puts people off. I think people look at him and assume he can’t be fast. 😯

    @Ludz (Comment 16) : Well the surely based on your very words there is nothing wrong “with us Sharks people” but with Meyer. We can’t help it if he decides to wear those blue blinkers. At this stage we don’t even know if he’ll operate that way though.

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.03.12 12:05:51 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Ludz (Comment 6) : wynand got skinned by ebersohn last weekend, robert twice bumped wynand like a rag doll when meisiekind tried to tackle him.

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.03.12 12:25:55 by Megatron Reply

  • Megatron how relevant is the odd bounce in rugby,look in schoolboy rugby,we used to tease the guys for that,but in pro rugby every player gets shrugged off every now and then

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.03.12 13:56:29 by Ludz Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 22) : Yup, like Habana who fell flat on his @ss trying to tackle JPP. That was funny! 🙂

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.03.12 14:23:39 by Ben Reply
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  • Proof that JP is making a difference is how much more often Mvovo has been receiving the ball.

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.03.12 14:44:08 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 23) : That was a nice hand-off. Also rather enjoyed Mvovo running around Aplon – that takes some doing!

    @rhineshark (Comment 24) :

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.03.12 14:59:37 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 21) :
    I’d like to see a Cheetahs backline with Sias at 10, Strauss at 12, Robert at 13, Goosen at 15, and any decent wings.

    And of course, Johnson must surely play!

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.03.12 15:01:02 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Ludz (Comment 22) : how relevant is defence? 😯

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.03.12 15:01:26 by Megatron Reply

  • It’s just as bad as a missed tackle,what’s the difference between the two and how many backline players do you know of who maintain 100% tackle efficiency,cmon Ta Megs

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.03.12 15:13:50 by Ludz Reply

  • Hell I remember in 2010 a certain Stefan Watermeyer bouncing both Jean de Villiers and Juan de Jongh,certainly doesn’t make them poor defenders

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.03.12 15:16:23 by Ludz Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 28) : really Ludz? everyone slates Bjorn Basson because he bounces off tackles or just swings as the opposition player passes by and guess what happened to him? he got dropped from the RWC team. at 13 defence is non-negotiable.

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.03.12 15:44:23 by Megatron Reply

  • Wynand Olivier the Jorrie Muller of our time…

    Seriously the guy never passes ..ever!

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.03.12 16:02:24 by csb Reply

  • Look lets be honest,it’s gonna be hard to find a no.13 who has Jaque Fourie’s defensively capabilities,don’t think there’s an outside centre in world rugby who could match Fourie in this aspect,between Juan de Jongh,Sadie and Olivier,surely Olivier is the better defender of the 3 and I would be keen to see Frans Steyn at 12 and Olivier at 13. JP at 13 for the Boks is surely premature

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.03.12 16:09:47 by Ludz Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 32) : Poor Ludz trying to defend meisiekind you are in the wrong place boet.

    Why do you think me and beet take sabbaticals these days. :mrgreen:

    Save yout breath like you said before the Pink Bulls will do the talking on the field.

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.03.12 16:18:34 by Muzi Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 32) : de jongh can more than match olivier on defence, well sadie is untested defensively, the hype around him is the fact that heyneke meyer rates him.

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.03.12 16:22:39 by Megatron Reply

  • @Muzi (Comment 33) : muesli, we know you take sabbaticals because you are kak bang the bulls might bottle it, now they’re winning and you pink face is around wait until the going gets tough :mrgreen:

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.03.12 16:27:03 by Megatron Reply

  • The schoolboy season has begun,so am gonna be on rugby365 a lot more now and Sharksworld will see a little less of me

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.03.12 16:33:35 by Ludz Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 35) : It’s Muzikayise by the way.

    When the going gets tough this weekend i will not hide away.

    Promise you…. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.03.12 16:36:03 by Muzi Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 36) : Good man thank god school rugby is back.

    Look sharksworld is not bad but i enjoy rugby365.

    Hope Joshau Stander steps up.

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.03.12 16:39:18 by Muzi Reply

  • @Muzi (Comment 37) : yes Muesli kaYise 😀

    i also dig the cereal like your Pops 😀

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.03.12 16:41:40 by Megatron Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 36) : If you want to interact with schoolboy rugby players and coaches go to twitter. 😉

    You will learn lots have a word or two with bulls junior players it’s great.

    It will change your life :mrgreen:

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.03.12 16:42:14 by Muzi Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 39) : 👿

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.03.12 16:44:02 by Muzi Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 39) :
    😆 😈

    Don’t be mean to the faithful ex-Lions supporter!

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.03.12 16:54:02 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Muzi (Comment 33) :
    @Ludz (Comment 36) :
    Calm down lads, this is not necessarily a provincial thing – Megatron for example, is certainly not a Sharks supporter, and neither is csb.

    Simplistic explanations to any opinion you differ with are tempting, but not always accurate.

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.03.12 16:58:25 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 42) : Leka guy hey Beet was right i’m going to friggin leave sharksworld. 👿

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.03.12 17:00:30 by Muzi Reply

  • @Big Fish (Comment 43) : “Simplistic explanations to any opinion you differ with are tempting, but not always accurate” that’s aload

    Shit and i thought was worse 👿

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.03.12 17:02:11 by Muzi Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 36) : At the end of the day i only came here because i wanted to have a word or two about beet concerning schoolboy rugby.

    That’s the price you pay for being a bulls supporter. 👿

    Will see you in rugby365 boet.

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.03.12 17:05:32 by Muzi Reply

  • Watching Josh tommorow,1st match and he’s captain of the side,pretty keen to see him and JP,a couple,watch the new 8thman Mandilakhe Ponco,he played prop last year believe it or not. @Big Fish,there are people who make their points and back it up,but some are in it for the black and white and that’s all,admire their loyalty,but we simply have to maintain a certain level of objectivity. I’ll still be active here,but the best site for schoolboy rugby is rugby365

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.03.12 17:28:44 by Ludz Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 47) :
    Ja, this is a Sharks site, so objectivity isn’t always there. But then again, on the Bismark site, even Sharks fans are fighting about the merits of a Sharks player.

    Meisiekind is not the most popular here, and neither is Spies, but guys like Chili, Akona and Basson (whom I personally don’t rate) are highly-rated.

    At the end of the day, and I’ve said this many times on SW, the Bulls are the side to beat in SA rugby.

  • Comment 48, posted at 08.03.12 17:45:12 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Muzi (Comment 44) :

    You not a fan of good writing?

  • Comment 49, posted at 08.03.12 17:47:04 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 49) : he’s being a chop. There was actually a pretty civil discussion going on until he came here and decided to play the victim card.

    Come on Muzi… grow a pair, my boy.

  • Comment 50, posted at 08.03.12 17:51:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • Don’t get me wrong gents,still keen to have a go at you Sharkies,just saying with the schoolboy season having just begun,gonna be on rugby365 a lot more,don’t go on a lot during the off season at schoolboy level

  • Comment 51, posted at 08.03.12 18:14:12 by Ludz Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 50) : Do they make beef chops?

  • Comment 52, posted at 08.03.12 19:18:58 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 52) : LOL

  • Comment 53, posted at 08.03.12 19:21:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • Hells bells but some Bulls supporters have chips on their shoulders.

  • Comment 54, posted at 09.03.12 08:45:10 by Salmonoid Reply
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