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So why did we lose?


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 27 Mar 2012 at 09:54
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There’s been a hell of a lot of debate here over the last few days, after the Sharks blew a handy-seeming lead against the Waratahs and crumpled to yet another agonising loss in the city where so many other campaigns have faltered. So what happened? Let’s see if we can reach some consensus.

There was a very strong school of thought here, in the early stages of the season, that the Sharks should be given a fair bit of leeway as they rebuilt themselves after the loss of a number of seniors. With 100-cappers (and regular captains) in John Smit and Stefan Terblanche leaving, further experience lost through Adrian Jacobs, Eugene van Staden, Gerhard Mostert and Jacques-Louis Potgieter, it was inevitable that the side would lose some composure. Pre-season injuries to Willem Alberts, Jean Deysel and Beast Mtawarira further blunted the once-feared pack and those men have subsequently been joined on the injured list by Ross Skeate and Alistair Hargreaves. Add the unavailability, at times, of Conrad Hoffmann, JP Pietersen and Odwa Ndungane and that’s very nearly an entire team of players that the Sharks have had to do without at some point during the campaign.

In short, the departure of seniors, coupled with bad luck on the injury front, has left the Sharks a far less experienced side than they were last year, with far less quality backup to depend on. The tight five, in particular, has been hard hit indeed with only Bismarck and Jannie du Plessis remaining as players of genuine international pedigree. Bringing in youngsters, in short, is something that we all said we were in favour of ahead of the season. How many questioned the decision to let Smit or van Staden go? Then again, how many would give a limb to have either player back right now? We seem, in other words, to have very quickly forgotten our pledge to back our young props and locks, given the frankly vitriolic outpourings against the likes of Dale Chadwick and Jandre Marais after Saturday’s loss.

Why do some youngsters seem to step up better than others, though? How is it that Pat Lambie and Marcell Coetzee could both deliver a consistent standard of play worthy of this competition at the age of 20, while other need more time to adjust? Why is it that the new Stormers wünderkind Eben Etzebeth looks like he was born ready for Super Rugby, while our young locks don’t appear to be quite as battle-hardened? That, I fear, is a question that I cannot answer, but at the end of the day you have to work with what you have and invest in making them the best they can be. Hero-to-zero syndrome doesn’t really help either and it will be quite interesting to see whether Etzebeth, according to one source being “already fitted for a Bok blazer”, manages to retain that green-and-gold aura once he has a bad match. It happens to all players sooner or later!

A lot has also been said about fatigue – and John Plumtree has also alluded to this in an interview with the Sharks website. We all saw how the intensity dropped off in the last 20 minutes, but I don’t buy the jet lag excuse as an explanation for that. What has happened, though, is that a lot of players have been forced to work a lot harder over the last 5 weeks than I think they should have. We’ve highlighted a number of times already that certain players were getting simply too much game time under their belts and while some of this can be attributed to the injury toll, a fair bit of it must come down to bad planning and poor player management on behalf of the coaches. The Sharks got their substitutions wrong against the Waratahs as well – the decision to pick players on the bench that had been struggling with injury all week hurt the team, while the call to replace Meyer Bosman with Marius Joubert simply made no sense either, given that the former was our best defensive back on the field. Did those factors alone cause the loss? Was this within the coaches’ control, or was the fate of the team sealed when they left Durban with only 23 guys, at least three of whom carried injuries onto the plane.

Injuries happen in rugby, but I’m not sure why there has to be such widespread panic when they do occur. If the Sharks; structures were working as well as we’re told they are, then surely it wouldn’t have been necessary to take a half-fit Steven Sykes, Wiehahn Herbst or even JP Pietersen along on the tour – we would simply have replaced them with the equivalent players from the Vodacom Cup side. That, to me, feels like the sort of thing that the Bulls or Stormers would have done. To my mind, rugby starts and ends with a fit, match-ready 22 and if injuries rob you of the combinations you’d ideally like to pick, you adjust and move on.

All-in-all, given the above, there were more than enough factors working against the Sharks in Sydney this weekend. How many of those could we have controlled? Would other teams, in a similar situations, have allowed those factors to influence the result of the game, or could mental strength once again be the thing setting the genuine title contenders apart from our beloved boys in black and white?


119 Comments

  • You could almost have posted this heading alone without an article below it and the comments section would have made for interesting reading πŸ™‚

  • Comment 1, posted at 27.03.12 10:04:10 by KSA Shark Β© Reply
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  • Just for the record I have always said that losing Eugene will come back to bite us.

    You make valid points Rob and all of it has certainly had an impact. I’m still pissed of at the loss though because it should have been a 4 or 5 pointer on tour and I think a more experienced captain would have won us the game.

    The Brumbies are looking good and we’ll have to be a lot better to beat them this weekend.

  • Comment 2, posted at 27.03.12 10:06:32 by Pokkel Reply
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  • JLP. πŸ˜† experienced yes but a regular part of the team he certainly was not. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 3, posted at 27.03.12 10:10:14 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • I’m still a bit concerned about the ‘attitude’ of the Sharks. They seem too laid back at times and then the defensive structures go to pieces. This loss hurt me a lot and I hope it hurt the Sharks even more so that they can adjust their attitude for the rest of the S15.

    We have had 3 close losses away from home and you could argue that they were against 3 top teams but the difference between teams that end mid-table and the champions are that the champions usually win those close games.

  • Comment 4, posted at 27.03.12 10:13:15 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I am just annoyed with this loss because they gave it away. Daniel said they thought they had it in the bag and obviously relaxed a bit. The Tah’s were ripe for the picking and the Sharks just lacked that killer instinct in the final minutes to put the game in the bag instead of thinking they had it in the bag.

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  • Comment 6, posted at 27.03.12 10:14:59 by csb Reply

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  • The other team scored more points than you guys … πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.03.12 10:16:37 by csb Reply

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  • @csb (Comment 7) : We heard you the first time

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.03.12 10:17:33 by lostfish Reply
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  • This is a pretty lengthy analysis for a Tuesday.

    Its simple the Sharks lost when MJ was brought onto the field.

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.03.12 10:21:02 by csb Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 2) : I agree Eugene should never have gone.

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.03.12 10:22:04 by Uli Reply
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  • “how many would give a limb to have either player [Smit or van Staden] back right now?” In the case of John Smit I think the answer would be: “Not many”! we are well covered at hooker and frankly his play at prop was a liability most of the time. As for his leadership, we had the benefit of that last year and still ended up missing the semis.

  • Comment 11, posted at 27.03.12 10:22:12 by Greg Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 11) : 😯
    I would give my proverbial left **** to have Smit scrumming down on either side of Bismark and captaining the side.

  • Comment 12, posted at 27.03.12 10:37:59 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Rob you can ad Kankowski to that list as well even though we aren’t missing him too much.

  • Comment 13, posted at 27.03.12 10:39:13 by Ben Reply
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  • Nice article Rob. Good points and questions.

    Jetlag was a factor, as was inexperience, fatigue and a lack of strong leadership.

    The reality though is that while we have underperformed, there has been some positive changes from Plumtree in terms of selections, positional changes, gameplan and innovation.

    The downside is that we are in a watershed year, and rebuilding may equal average results in 2012.

  • Comment 14, posted at 27.03.12 10:42:39 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Anyone know what time (SA time) we are playing the Brumbies? Is it a Saturday game? Trying to plan my weekend accordingly.

  • Comment 15, posted at 27.03.12 10:42:43 by Ben Reply
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  • @csb (Comment 9) : Blaming MJ only, you are now a true Sharksworld blogger 😈 I did not expect it from you though. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 27.03.12 10:42:44 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Read that in the team of the week last night on rugby365,you certainly can’t fault the okes on there for saying that,there simply is no better no.4 lock in SA or Super Rugby for that matter,the lad is consistent and is growing in the lineout as well (Andries Bekker influence),until such time where Flip comes into his own,there will be no genuine challenger to the no.4 jersey. Etzebeth is simply superb and quite frankly he must be front runner with Juandre Kruger

  • Comment 17, posted at 27.03.12 10:47:57 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 15) : 10:40

  • Comment 18, posted at 27.03.12 10:49:21 by Ice Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 12) : seen too many games lost under his captaincy to even be tempted to agree with that view πŸ‘Ώ

  • Comment 19, posted at 27.03.12 10:58:31 by Greg Reply

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  • When I wrote the “My 2012 Wish List” article, I stated that I would still be happy if we did not win the trophy this year, provided the results we achieved were consistent with a visible process aimed at ensuring long-term success.

    Thus far the season there has been much that I have been enthused about, particularly with regards to youth development, and with addressing the issue of a Sharks backline that up until 2011 offered all the penetration of a wad of soggy tissue paper.

    Having said that, the Waratahs game is one that we should have won, and I don’t believe that the loss can be attributed to the current rebuilding process, and the associated lack of experience and leadership.

    Simply put, we lost against the Waratahs because we were sloppy in the basics. Claiming kick-offs is something that any player at Super Rugby should be able to do, regardless of age or experience levels, and the same can be said of a whole number of other facets of our game.

    At the end of 2011 I was very negative about Plum as a head coach; in 2012 I have been forced to reconsider. However, Plum & The Sharks will not achieve greatness without the correct support and specialist staff, and until Plum as head coach understand the need for- and insists on these resources, I doubt that we will ever be title contenders.

    OK, getting off my soapbox now.

  • Comment 20, posted at 27.03.12 11:00:51 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 18) : When?

  • Comment 21, posted at 27.03.12 11:01:41 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 21) : Saturday

  • Comment 22, posted at 27.03.12 11:04:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : Thanks

  • Comment 23, posted at 27.03.12 11:13:18 by Ben Reply
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  • @csb (Comment 9) : I’m not even in aus, how can you blame me?

  • Comment 24, posted at 27.03.12 11:14:12 by MJ Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 21) : Sarrerag

  • Comment 25, posted at 27.03.12 11:20:48 by Ice Reply
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  • For these reasons.

    1 Depleted front row

    2 Inexperienced locks
    Points 1 and 2 leading to the inevatible lack of a tight 5 that could dominate collisions, rucks, lineouts etc.

    3 Increasingly worried about Daniel as a captain.

    4 Bench with MJ coming on. In fact just a bench with MJ on is probably reason enough.

  • Comment 26, posted at 27.03.12 11:22:54 by John Galt Reply

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  • @John Galt (Comment 26) :
    That being said,

    Points 1 and 2 could easily be fixed once Beast, Sykes, Skeate, Deysel etc return.

    Point 4 is also easily fixable. Just never have MJ wear the Black and White ever again.

    Point 3 is a little tougher to remedy.

  • Comment 27, posted at 27.03.12 11:24:33 by John Galt Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 19) : Well he did play many, many games and is only human – he was bound to lose a few.

  • Comment 28, posted at 27.03.12 11:30:04 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @John Galt (Comment 26) : Agreed.

    Maybe it`s time to accept the fact that we just don`t have the personnel to win this?

    Our focus should be on avoiding last place in the SA conference at all costs though.

  • Comment 29, posted at 27.03.12 11:31:19 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 19) : Run for the hills greg, negativity towards the great one is not allowed on this site πŸ˜€

  • Comment 30, posted at 27.03.12 11:32:24 by jako Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 19) : I know from experience 😳

  • Comment 31, posted at 27.03.12 11:34:09 by jako Reply
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  • @John Galt (Comment 26) : points 1 and 2 can’t be the reason IMO. We were doing well enough and were leading well, until the subs were made.

  • Comment 32, posted at 27.03.12 11:38:09 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @jako (Comment 30) : I gathered something of the kind πŸ˜‰
    I call it as I see it though: John Smit’s move to the UK was at least 2 years too late as far as his career with the Sharks went.
    oh, and while I’m on the topic of holy cows… it wasn’t having MJ come off the bench that cost us the game against the ‘Tahs, more like locks who can’t secure a kick-off thus ensuring that we end up defending in our own 22!

  • Comment 33, posted at 27.03.12 11:41:17 by Greg Reply

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  • Disrupting your scrum by moving a flank to lock and a hooker to flank at a vital point in the game may not be the sole reason but it certainly was one of the reasons for the last try.

  • Comment 34, posted at 27.03.12 11:41:17 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 33) : cant disagree, but the MJ move was inexcusable as well. Making a stupid decision with your back to the wall is one thing, but he was on the bench in the first place, with Jordaan in the stands. I mean, this was actually planned ffs. πŸ‘Ώ

  • Comment 35, posted at 27.03.12 11:57:04 by jako Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 33) : Surely we all call it as we see it.

    How do you see our captaincy situation at the moment?

  • Comment 36, posted at 27.03.12 11:58:58 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @jako (Comment 35) : Have you maybe thought that MJ showed more promise than Jordaan at practices etc. I know I watched the Vodacom Cup game against WP and Jordaan was not cutting it at all while Joubert had a good game.

  • Comment 37, posted at 27.03.12 12:03:11 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Rob, thanks for expanding on the fatigue point! Makes sense!

  • Comment 38, posted at 27.03.12 12:06:06 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 37) : I see your point and raise you the “blind squirrel” riposte. πŸ˜€

  • Comment 39, posted at 27.03.12 12:08:19 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @MJ (Comment 24) : πŸ™‚

  • Comment 40, posted at 27.03.12 12:11:02 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 37) : definitely thought of that, but in the one corner you have an exciting potential game breaker with youth on his side and in the other you have a globetrotter with maybe a year left. I like MJ, but no no no. Look at what Jaques Potgieter is doing for the bulls. Some of these guys just need a chance. Some pop, some dont, sure. But still.

  • Comment 41, posted at 27.03.12 12:12:23 by jako Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 36) : Tough to call! One thing is for sure, though, Keegan will keep it at least until the end of S15 this year (barring injury of course). One of the captain’s main roles within this team has to be ensuring that he gets the best out of the youngsters by advising/mentoring them etc. Is Keegan fulfilling that role to the extent he should? My view at this stage is not…

  • Comment 42, posted at 27.03.12 12:12:59 by Greg Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 39) : that was very clever πŸ™‚

  • Comment 43, posted at 27.03.12 12:14:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) : Then it was unintentional. Could you explain?

  • Comment 44, posted at 27.03.12 12:15:47 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 44) : Sorry, thought you were replying to my other comment πŸ™‚

  • Comment 45, posted at 27.03.12 12:18:24 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) : Rob, why don’t you buy the jet lag excuse? Have you ever tried playing a game days after flying half way across the world? I’m not saying I have but it must affect the players somewhat.

    As for what makes a good youngster – surely the player’s personality comes into it. Being big and strong is fine but they need to be able to grind and wrestle – that’s a helluva thing to do at S15 level at such a young age. It requires huge amounts of confidence. Some people are born with it, others need experience to build it.

  • Comment 46, posted at 27.03.12 12:38:42 by Flashman Reply

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  • @Flashman (Comment 46) : A big beard also seems to help. 😎

  • Comment 47, posted at 27.03.12 12:47:29 by vanmartin Reply
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  • I think a key contributor to the loss was the fact that we botched so many of the restarts we received. That put us under pressure straight after almost every score and allowed them to hit back quickly, thereby ruining any psychological dominance we may have exerted… Collecting restarts effectively is one of the key basics of the game…

  • Comment 48, posted at 27.03.12 12:52:26 by The Quirk Reply
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  • @Flashman (Comment 46) : And growing up HARD as opposed to going to a preppy school also makes you a lot harder alot earlier.

    Would love to see a comparison of the big hit boys, ie. Forwards of how they grew up compared to how early on they were tough nuts to crack.

  • Comment 49, posted at 27.03.12 12:57:02 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 39) : πŸ˜†

  • Comment 50, posted at 27.03.12 12:58:13 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Let’s look forward to the future games. Sharks supporters are the most demanding bunch out (myself included).We demand the best out of the guys all the time and so it should be.Why doesn’t the brains trust at Sharks Rugby look at horses for courses & not places for buddies (MJ & Rudolf S). We could have included Jordaan or even Sbura in the team. Meyer & Tim seem to compliment each other> Why not play Alberts @ 8,Coetzee or deysel @ 7 and keegan or Botes at 6? Main thing is these guys are playing at full steam & will be prone to breakdown sooner or later like a BMW or Merc!When Hargreaves comes back, let him captain the side and let Keegan & Bismatck rest a game or so.Burden can do with some game time as can Hadebe. We need to be taught the ways of refs interpretation of the rules as well. I am now relinquishing the podium to my fellow bloggers!

  • Comment 51, posted at 27.03.12 12:58:29 by markm Reply

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  • @The Quirk (Comment 48) : YES! this is exactly what I was saying earlier on in this thread. who usually secures the high ball restarts…the locks of course. Hence it’s the lack of ability/experience in this area that is costing us badly at the moment. Not saying it’s entirely the players’ fault though, they don’t pick themselves: going into S15 2012 with only Hargreaves and Skeate as our experienced locks was not a wise move IMO (I don’t include Sykes as he was a late addition to the squad on his return from Ireland).

  • Comment 52, posted at 27.03.12 13:00:35 by Greg Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 49) : Good point, our GM at the office used to play snooker against the older Etzebeths back in the day, he’s a former special branch cop… He reckons the likelihood of a fight breaking out within 20 minutes of them walking into a pub was close on 100 percent… To put it in his words, “hulle vat nie sommer kak nie.”

  • Comment 53, posted at 27.03.12 13:00:53 by The Quirk Reply
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  • @The Quirk (Comment 48) : I agree wholeheartedly.

    To me, the first 30min against the Reds was just a preview of the Waratahs game. We won the Reds game because the guys switched on, and the concentration level lifted dramatically.

    However, I feel there is an underlying issue with our defensive structure. At times we commit too many players to the breakdown, and many times there are massive gaps 2-3m away from the breakdown that eventually get filled by slow returning players. Our defense is far too lateral, and not aggressive enough for club rugby, let alone Super rugby.

    The Waratahs played the perfect game plan, under the pretense that they were dropping or resting players. When Sarel came on, he attacked the fringes that Genia had done so well until he moved to flyhalf.

    The first half against the Reds, I was screaming at the lack of coaching our players showed. This weekend reopened that same box.

  • Comment 54, posted at 27.03.12 13:02:49 by Gaff Reply

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  • @Flashman (Comment 46) : These guys are professionals playing for a professional union. There are a lot of things that you can do to help with the jetlag. Sure it is hard but it is manageable.

  • Comment 55, posted at 27.03.12 13:12:14 by lostfish Reply
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  • All these theories and finger pointing have made me realise that at the end of the day the Sharks are just *&%^ – thanks for enlightening me.

  • Comment 56, posted at 27.03.12 13:16:27 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 49) : That’s an interesting point. I notice that playing in the UK – no matter how big and strong the guys are, their soft upbringing leaves them with a lack of mongrel.

  • Comment 57, posted at 27.03.12 13:36:49 by Flashman Reply

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  • you cannot blame the defeat on one person namely Marius Joubert. i watched him play for the sharks 15 against the bulldogs two weeks before and he was the play maker.the 4th offside and the knock down of the ball on the try line should have been a penalty try and a yellow card and the week before should have been a red card for spear tackle and the bad mistake by the ref on keegan and so on and on has cost the sharks not one player.

  • Comment 58, posted at 27.03.12 13:42:34 by pete69 Reply

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  • @pete69 (Comment 58) : while I do not blame MJ for losing us the game, surely you cannot compare the two opositions! The Bulldogs vs Waratahs! My son could probably look good against the Bulldogs, and he is in Form 2! πŸ™„

  • Comment 59, posted at 27.03.12 13:47:11 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @pete69 (Comment 58) : No way that was a penalty try. You can’t just award a PT because it was close to the line.

  • Comment 60, posted at 27.03.12 14:04:38 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 60) :

    And last years game against the Tah’s with the Beale knocking the pass between Oupa and Kanko. In your learned opinion should that have been a penalty try?

  • Comment 61, posted at 27.03.12 14:09:05 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 61) : I would have given that as a PT. There was nobody to stop Kanko had the ball not been smacked down.

    Good ole Keith Brown was the ref then wasn’t he?

  • Comment 62, posted at 27.03.12 14:13:04 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 62) : it was good old Bryce I think πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 63, posted at 27.03.12 14:24:13 by Greg Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 62) : and that very same Keith Brown is reffing our game on Saturday πŸ‘Ώ

  • Comment 64, posted at 27.03.12 14:32:26 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • the border bulldogs are made up of 80% under 21 players that were transferred down with the zululand rugby academy that relocated to east London so they are learning the very hard way to top rugby.

  • Comment 65, posted at 27.03.12 14:46:29 by pete69 Reply

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  • i see the navel gazing continues πŸ˜†

  • Comment 66, posted at 27.03.12 14:52:29 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 66) : Its good to have a navel to gaze at. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 67, posted at 27.03.12 14:55:29 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 62) : didn’t we have two players on the outside that would have deffo scored as well in this instance?

  • Comment 68, posted at 27.03.12 15:00:16 by Ice Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 67) : indeed! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 69, posted at 27.03.12 15:09:36 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 61) : That wasn’t last year it was 2010.

  • Comment 70, posted at 27.03.12 15:12:39 by lostfish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 62) : The ref was Paul Marks who was stood down after that game.

  • Comment 71, posted at 27.03.12 15:16:35 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 70) :

    Time flies when you’re team plays shit! πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 72, posted at 27.03.12 15:17:43 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 68) : no, you had one, kanko.

    @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 62) : @Greg (Comment 63) : the both of you are mistaken, it was Paul “skid” Marks πŸ˜†

  • Comment 73, posted at 27.03.12 15:18:00 by Megatron Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 71) : that’s the one. πŸ™‚

  • Comment 74, posted at 27.03.12 15:25:41 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 73) : I think she is refering to this past weekend.

  • Comment 75, posted at 27.03.12 15:26:45 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 72) : πŸ˜†

  • Comment 76, posted at 27.03.12 15:27:51 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 72) : 😯 sadly

  • Comment 77, posted at 27.03.12 15:30:31 by lostfish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 74) : That was the same sorry season we had Not Pro The Goat reffing Super Rugby.

  • Comment 78, posted at 27.03.12 15:31:42 by lostfish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 75) : I am yes! πŸ˜‰ So?

  • Comment 79, posted at 27.03.12 15:33:40 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 73) : ha ha – remember Paul Marks’ performance when we drew with the Canes in 2010? I recall we were on the receiving end of a very benign call, also to do with a slap down and a penalty try.

  • Comment 80, posted at 27.03.12 15:50:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 78) : yep, he took over the Cheetahs game where Kaplan had the runs πŸ˜† the Sharks had raced to a 15 – 0 lead and Pro reigned them in quite PROfessionally, it was John Smit’s 100th Super rugby cap and the moron didn’t even want to do post-match interviews after the loss :mrgreen:

    one of my favourite games…

  • Comment 81, posted at 27.03.12 15:55:18 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 79) : So I have to check the video to see where the players were, if there was anyone else between them and the line and whether it looked like a smack down or attempted intercept.

  • Comment 82, posted at 27.03.12 16:00:37 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 81) : is your Schadefreude only Sharks related or anyone in general? πŸ™‚

  • Comment 83, posted at 27.03.12 16:03:05 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 83) : I think he just likes being a d**s some days πŸ™‚

    Probably does the same on Bulls, Lions and Stormers sites.

    There obviously isn’t a Cheetahs site. Their diesel generator doesn’t have enough capacity.

  • Comment 84, posted at 27.03.12 16:05:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 82) : Thanks will appreciate!

  • Comment 85, posted at 27.03.12 16:06:01 by Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 84) : I wonder if there will be a Kings blog? πŸ™‚

  • Comment 86, posted at 27.03.12 16:07:23 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 85) : I can tell you if there is even one opposition player between them and the line then no ref would give a PT.

  • Comment 87, posted at 27.03.12 16:10:22 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 86) : any more Sharks Academy boys head down there and I’ll start one myself πŸ™‚

  • Comment 88, posted at 27.03.12 16:11:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 80) : I think the Sharks got a penalty try for the Canes pulling down a maul on the try line. Then at full time Smith was tackled from behind by Barritt I think and wasn’t awarded a penalty try.

  • Comment 89, posted at 27.03.12 16:11:43 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 89) : I think it was Barritt let me check the archives.

  • Comment 90, posted at 27.03.12 16:13:54 by lostfish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 87) : I can appreciate that, ja. Have only seen it during the game and thought we had 2 players on the outside and what looked like open field infront of them

  • Comment 91, posted at 27.03.12 16:16:11 by Ice Reply
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  • The Sharks – now famous for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. There are many reasons why we lost, and I think all have already been mentioned. Management, Selections, Ethos, Leadership, Tenacity etc. I said earlier in the year that we are getting a look at the heart and soul of this team, and seeing what they are made of. Plum IMHO is a fantastic support coach, and there are a few ingredients he may lack to be a world beater, maybe not in skill of coaching alone, but perhaps more of the touches of people management, leadership, charisma – Nick Mallet had the human touches along with the mind of a strategist. Many folk say that Reece, Bash and Plum are not a world class coaching trio, and I tend to agree. An outfit as big as the Sharks requires true professionals in every department. Hopefully not another heartbreak nearly ran season. Currie Cup finals are not good enough.

  • Comment 92, posted at 27.03.12 16:22:49 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 83) : everyone gets it mate πŸ˜†

  • Comment 93, posted at 27.03.12 16:24:28 by Megatron Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 90) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-6xWZ2_VnE

  • Comment 94, posted at 27.03.12 16:29:33 by lostfish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 86) : i have already started the ground work on it, it’s going to be phenomenal :mrgreen:

  • Comment 95, posted at 27.03.12 16:30:51 by Megatron Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 94) : that was a shocker of a call…

  • Comment 96, posted at 27.03.12 17:00:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • WE LOST BECAUSE WE SCORED LESS POINTS πŸ˜‰ :mrgreen:

  • Comment 97, posted at 27.03.12 17:40:09 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 96) : Yup, although I think it deserved at least a penalty but not a penalty try.

  • Comment 98, posted at 27.03.12 17:43:20 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 98) : water under the bridge now. I just brought it up to remind everyone that the dodgy calls don’t always go against us…

  • Comment 99, posted at 27.03.12 18:03:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 99) : That is true. You can’t always have it your way. You win some and you lose some (ref calls that is) at the end of the day the team has to ensure that they do enough to win. I can live with losing against a superior opposition when the team has played their guts out but to lose to inferior opposition because they relaxed and thought they had it in the bag in unacceptable.

  • Comment 100, posted at 27.03.12 18:07:27 by lostfish Reply
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  • 😈 Nice objective piece Rob. I could read you were as mad as hell after Saturday’s game. The team need us to support as mental BLOG!
    Go boys! We are behind you all the way! Up your game and aggression and beat the pants of them Brumbs! 😈

  • Comment 101, posted at 27.03.12 18:15:19 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • The Bulls also lost plenty of very influencial and experienced players, yet they are more than competitive. The Crusaders can zigzag the globe three times in three weeks and still beat the best away from home, even after playing ALL their previous games away from home.

    We simply don’t have the professionalism it requires to be a champion Super Rugby franchise, so we’ll remain a top Currie Cup team (because there is talent to burn), but that’s as far as it will go until we get the right people in the right jobs; as administrators (DOR), coaches and other support staff.

    I’ve said it before – we’ve become the Cheetahs.

  • Comment 102, posted at 27.03.12 18:50:13 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 96) : Don’t listen to the commentators, watch the video. There was no certainty that Smith would have scored the try if he had not been tackled.

    A penalty to the hurricanes yes, a Penalty try no.

  • Comment 103, posted at 27.03.12 20:28:16 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • In general, why do the Sharks so often under-perform?

    Lack of team spirit.

    Why?

    Sharks recruitment practices are not conducive to building team spirit.

    Easy buy easy go. Too much looking for solutions from outside the team. Shark fans are in on the act too. The line: “We should buy so and so” appears all to often on this blog.

    Half the time it makes no sense to me anyway. Just as Lambie was being brilliant at 15 they recruit Ludick. With controversy. So why did they get Viljoen? What is Michelak doing there? Why the talk of Steyn coming back with the form Bosman is displaying. I sure hope Kankowski is injured and not just out of favor.

    Before this year is out the Sharks will probably try to get Goosen also. Too much use of the checkbook with not nearly enough purpose.
    Get the recruitment guy to work under the coach, but first get a new coach. Muir or Mallett or virtually any English speaking South African will be able to bridge the cultures and build a real team from all the accumulated talent that is already there.

  • Comment 104, posted at 28.03.12 04:12:16 by fyndraai Reply
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  • Just think where the Sharks would be today if Jake White was the coach.

  • Comment 105, posted at 28.03.12 04:19:55 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 105) : yeah agreed.

    everyone know how good he is except his own countrymen. πŸ™

  • Comment 106, posted at 28.03.12 04:28:38 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 104) : Michalack is going back to France before the end of the SR, Bosman should then become our full time 10 backup after Lambie, thus it is logical to play them at pivot now instead of Fred. Ludik was a very good fb when we got him, but Viljoen is a great fb! Why do we want Frans Steyn back? Because it’s Frans Steyn, he is a great rugby player in all 3 dimensions, and it will bolster our depth in the centres to enviable proportions, and that for a position in which we were strugling only a year ago!
    As for the coach, I wouldn’t fire him just yet, bring in a specialist coach or 3, priority being a mental coach, and we will be much better off in that dept

  • Comment 107, posted at 28.03.12 07:05:37 by Die Kriek Reply

     
  • @Die Kriek (Comment 107) : BEFORE the end of SR??? I thought he was here until the end of the SR season.

  • Comment 108, posted at 28.03.12 07:09:53 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @Die Kriek (Comment 107) : By your logic, should we then play Hoffman or Reinach at 9 instead of Michalak, because they will be the fulltime back up to McLeod when Michalak leaves?

  • Comment 109, posted at 28.03.12 07:17:11 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 104) : I can’t agree more on the “we should buy so and so” comment.

    If it moves then there are calls to “buy it”

    My garden tap was tipped as a possible purchase because of his great defence after tripping up the neighbour’s 5year old son.

    Hey look my neighbour’s son is wearing a rugby jersey, the Sharks should look at buying him.

  • Comment 110, posted at 28.03.12 07:21:24 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 110) : Jeez but you can talk a lot of bollocks! You don’t have a garden tap; everyone knows there’s no water in KSA and that people there eat sand to quench their thirst :mrgreen:

  • Comment 111, posted at 28.03.12 07:24:03 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @KSA Shark Β© (Comment 110) : Seriously though, we should buy Ronnie Cooke 😈

  • Comment 112, posted at 28.03.12 07:24:31 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 112) : and Johan Goosen πŸ™‚

    And Nick Koster.

    Oh, and Coenie Oosthuizen. He’ll be the biggest hit in Durbs since the days of Ollie le Roux

  • Comment 113, posted at 28.03.12 07:27:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 111) : πŸ˜†
    @Culling Song (Comment 112) :
    @robdylan (Comment 113) :

    With those names we just need to buy 1 or 2 more and we could win the SR comp. And we can get Coenie to “explain” to those who disagree.

    Maybe Elton can come to Durban, he can be used as backup to the backup for the backup flyhalf.

  • Comment 114, posted at 28.03.12 07:56:45 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @Megatron this site is for all to express what they like including your so called navel gazing.

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  • @robdylan (Comment 113) : The biggest “hit” as in “katklap” πŸ˜†

  • Comment 116, posted at 28.03.12 08:22:48 by Ice Reply
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  • @pete69 (Comment 115) : ek weet πŸ˜€

  • Comment 117, posted at 28.03.12 09:03:24 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 116) :
    Katklap! πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

  • Comment 118, posted at 28.03.12 09:07:09 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 111) : No where did he say it was a tap that dispenses water?

  • Comment 119, posted at 28.03.12 09:32:16 by Greg Reply

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