Piling on the Aussie pain

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Super Rugby on 2 Apr 2012 at 11:00
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A new joke is doing the rounds after 6 weeks of Super Rugby in 2012… It goes “What do you call the bottom half of the Super Rugby Log? Why, the Aussie conference, of course…”

Now I realise that’s a little lame, but it must surely be concerning to the powers that be that, after a third of the tournament, four out of the five Australian conference sides find themselves in the bottom half of the draw, with the Brumbies, in third, their best-placed side. In fact, were it not for the crazy “conference winner” system that sees the Brumbies elevated to third above three other teams that all have more log points, the best-placed Australian side would be sixth on the table.

The lack of depth across the Australian franchises in particular has been brought into sharp relief over the last few weeks as well, with the champion Reds in particular slumping to three embarrassing defeats on tour as a result of a number of injuries within their squads. The scale of the Reds’ flyhalf woes, though, pales into insignificance when compared with what the Stormers endured last year; The men from Cape Town had the depth to end in the top two in 2011; what price the Reds doing the same in 2012?

The New Zealand and South African conferences are both strong and competitive this year, with three sides each in the top 7. Time for Super Rugby to rethink the level of Australian participation? All in favour?


  • Bring back the Super 12…

  • Comment 1, posted at 02.04.12 11:06:46 by The Quirk Reply
    The Quirk
  • Aye!

  • Comment 2, posted at 02.04.12 11:10:31 by vanmartin Reply
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  • John O’Neill needs an honourary knighthood or something for the service he has given to Australian Rugby.

    1) Gave Australia their long sought after domestic competition.

    2) Got SANZAR to sponsor the competition along with a trophy. The ARU don’t even have to come up with a name for it.

    3) Ensured that there will be at least one Aus side in the Super play-offs each year.

  • Comment 3, posted at 02.04.12 11:16:51 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©
  • Aye! I agree with The Quirk. Bring back the Super 12.

  • Comment 4, posted at 02.04.12 11:17:04 by Butchie34 Reply
  • Another quick stat…

    SA versus Aus teams – 4 SA wins, 2 Aus wins.
    NZ versus Aus teams – 5 NZ wins, 1 Aus win.
    SA versus NZ teams – 3 SA wins, 4 NZ wins.

  • Comment 5, posted at 02.04.12 11:25:52 by hendrikp Reply

  • @Butchie34 (Comment 4) :
    @The Quirk (Comment 1) :

    And which TWO South African teams would you remove to make way for the Kings and only have 4 teams from each country in the competition?

  • Comment 6, posted at 02.04.12 11:26:16 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) : In terms of quality and watchability, the Super 12 was still the best where there were 12 strong teams of which any team could beat another team. Nowadays, Super Rugby is really a tale of the haves and the have-nots.

    So if you look at Super 12 performance, it would be the Lions and Cheetahs. BUT, with the Kings coming in, it would be fair on neither the Cheetahs or Lions (as it is currently).

  • Comment 7, posted at 02.04.12 11:29:27 by Butchie34 Reply
  • @Butchie34 (Comment 4) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) : Lets not ruin a good fantasy with silly things like complications and the EP Kings… Aussie conference should have 3 teams, no more, but that isn’t going to happen either.

  • Comment 8, posted at 02.04.12 11:30:57 by The Quirk Reply
    The Quirk
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) : The Kings can play in the Aus conference; that should beef them up a bit.

  • Comment 9, posted at 02.04.12 12:00:39 by MysticShark Reply
    Competition Winner
  • Why don’t they just make a promotion regulation that involves 3 teams (one from each country) gunning for the last position on the log? If they can’t beat the worst super rugby team, then they can’t play in the super rugby the next year!

  • Comment 10, posted at 02.04.12 14:40:23 by Letgo Reply
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  • Actually looking at the Oz conference this year makes a mockery of this flawed format.

    S15 has to go back to the original format, makes it a fair contest then. We simply have to play each team once, no need to play your conference team home and away, none of this missing out some top teams and others getting the weaker sides to play from Oz. Crazt format. Has to go back to the old format.

    Why should a team sitting on less points be in third position? Mind boggles really how Saru accepted this in the first place.

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.04.12 08:51:40 by Puma Reply

  • Another thing I am against is the 5th and 6th teams getting another chance to play to get into the semi. Really not fair on the teams that make the top four. What will make it even more ridiculous, is if the Top Aussie team is sitting 7th or 8th over all at the end and gets into the play off just for topping their conference. Absolute rubbish this format. It is flawed by a long, long way.

    Top four must go into the semi and from there like the old format the last two standing in the final. That way the best team wins the tourney. Cuts down on travel too. Teams coming 5th and 6th will always have to travel. Crazy.

    Bring back the old format, it worked and worked well.

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.04.12 08:57:43 by Puma Reply

  • As a South African, I’d rather keep my mouth shut about the weakness in Australia, lest I’m reminded of all those SA teams propping up the bottom for all those years.

  • Comment 13, posted at 04.04.12 04:14:26 by fyndraai Reply
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