Four weeks for Butch – four months for Goosen?

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Cheetahs, Lions, Original Content, Super Rugby on 29 Apr 2012 at 08:17
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The Lions and Cheetahs have both received bad news this morning, adding additional misery to their weekend Super Rugby losses.

The Joburg side came badly unstuck against Jake White’s Brumbies at Coca-Cola Park on Friday night. Replacement flyhalf Butch James was yellow carded during the match for a reckless ruck entrance. News fresh from SANZAR this morning is that the Bok World Cup hero has been handed a four-week suspension for his troubles. Judicial Officer Mike Heron apparently accepted a guilty plea from James, but opted to throw the book at him anyway.

It’s a strange old world when charging into a ruck cops you four weeks off, yet we’ve repeatedly seen incidents of blatant punching on the field go completely unpunished. Still, Butch (with his somewhat dodgy record) is a pretty bad poster child for any sort of revolution against SANZAR disciplinary rules, so it look like the Lions will have to make do without him for their upcoming tour.

RugbyFifteen (@RugbyFifteen on Twitter), meanwhile, are reporting that ace Cheetahs and Baby Bok flyhalf Johan Goosen will be out of action for 4 months after a serious shoulder injury picked up during yesterday’s loss to the Highlanders. Should the prognosis turn out to be correct, that would rule Goosen completely our of contention not only for the rest of Super Rugby, but also for the upcoming IRB Junior World Championship, where he was lined up to play a starting role in Dawie Theron’s side.

Goose, we’re holding thumbs for you, my boy – let’s hope it isn’t as serious as initially thought.


  • Eish, hope Goosen injury doesn’t turn out to be as severe.

    Cheetahs & Baby Boks… maybe even the Boks need him. Sure his defense needs work, and his tactical kicking is poor, but he wins you games.

    As for Butch, it’s a hard life. Haskell on the other hand will get away with an unprovoked punch to the side of Justin Downey’s head.

  • Comment 1, posted at 29.04.12 08:43:21 by hendrikp Reply
  • Feel bad for Goosen 🙁

  • Comment 2, posted at 29.04.12 08:46:45 by JarsonX Reply
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  • That is a real pity, he was playing some brilliant rugby. The Cheetahs fell apart after he left the field.

  • Comment 3, posted at 29.04.12 08:56:41 by lostfish Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 1) : no, he won’t.

    Haskell has been cited and the commissioner has already determined that it warranted a red card.

    He made a proper mess of Downey’s eye and the citing commissioner is aware of that fact too.

    Haskell will get 2 months, I reckon.

  • Comment 4, posted at 29.04.12 08:58:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • Goosen’s injury is massive blow for Dawie Theron. Tony Jantjes will have to step up. Not sure who will be selected at the reserve flyhalf.

  • Comment 5, posted at 29.04.12 11:02:01 by slammerboy Reply
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  • @slammerboy (Comment 5) : is there even anyone waiting in the wings? Dawie really hasn’t looked at anyone outside of those two…

  • Comment 6, posted at 29.04.12 12:28:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @slammerboy (Comment 5) :

    Would think it would fall to one of Dillyn Leyds or Paul Jordaan.

    Will be interesting to see who the replacement is. Might go for a non-flyhalf in Kobus van Wyk, JJ de Klerk or Mathys Smit?

    Harold Vorster was the other 10 (outside of Jantjies) to start against Argentina recently.

  • Comment 7, posted at 29.04.12 12:28:31 by hendrikp Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 6) :

    Bit surprised Timo Swiel can make the Stormers training squad, but not the Baby Boks training squad. Anyone know if he’s injured?

  • Comment 8, posted at 29.04.12 12:29:45 by hendrikp Reply

  • @hendrikp (Comment 8) : I’ve heard he’s injured. Think if he wasn’t he would have definitely got a look in

  • Comment 9, posted at 29.04.12 12:34:13 by slammerboy Reply
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  • @slammerboy (Comment 9) : he banked on Goosen. Is Fred Z still eligible to play?

    I have no idea who he will go for but I’m sure if we have a bad tournament this will be used as an excuse

  • Comment 10, posted at 29.04.12 12:48:04 by slammerboy Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 7) : Paul Jordaan… hadn’t thought of that.

    My view is that the kid would be wasted on the wing…

  • Comment 11, posted at 29.04.12 12:53:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @slammerboy (Comment 10) : 11 December 1992, so definitely still eligible.

    I wonder why Dawie simply hasn’t even thought to look at him, though… Same thing with Gav Hauptfleisch.

  • Comment 12, posted at 29.04.12 12:54:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : Muzi reckons concerns over Freds tactical kicking. I can’t comment. Think he may have to come into the equation. Don’t know about Gavin. Is he fit now after his injury?

  • Comment 13, posted at 29.04.12 12:57:19 by slammerboy Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 7) : isn’t schmidt a flyhalf or plays at fullback? Maybe he’s an option.. Burger Odendaal impressed in the VC Young Guns compo as well.

    Maybe Paul Jordaan should be given a crack. Isn’t he more a 12/10 than a 13/11?

  • Comment 14, posted at 29.04.12 12:59:44 by slammerboy Reply
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  • @slammerboy (Comment 14) : Paul played 10 for the Sharks u21’s for basically the whole of last year. Personally though I feel he is best suited to the 13 and wing positions.

  • Comment 15, posted at 29.04.12 13:29:16 by Ben Reply
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  • Fred z has had a good season even though they have not used him in the kicking game, his all round kicking has improved and he still kicks further and more accurate than his fellow team mates, looks like the more senior players in the team get the chances, he’s only 19 I hear. Let’s hope the coaches give him a chance to play a full flyhalf role and get his confidence up.

  • Comment 16, posted at 29.04.12 14:29:16 by spyderco Reply

  • butch i a big ass h…..,he is a brainfart,now we must just get rid of plum and rodolph as well they are costing us a lot

  • Comment 17, posted at 29.04.12 15:15:09 by JMR Reply

  • Apparently Goosen confirmed on his Facebook page. 4 months. Anyone stalking . . . I mean friended him yet?

  • Comment 18, posted at 29.04.12 22:30:46 by Die Kriek Reply

  • when butch first burst onto the scene, we defended that guy thru thick and thin. being a local boy and all. but the more he plays the more of a thug he shows himself to be. he should consider retiring from all forms of the game before he has only bitter memories left.

  • Comment 19, posted at 30.04.12 07:13:14 by CapeShark Reply
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  • That sort of shoulder charge is what you would’ve expected from Butch circa 2001. He should have stayed in Bath because he was actually playing some damn good rugby for them.

  • Comment 20, posted at 30.04.12 11:59:47 by lostfish Reply
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  • Well ole Butch just does’nt learn does he? 🙄

  • Comment 21, posted at 30.04.12 14:31:58 by Silver Fox Reply

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