robdylan

Boks named for Castle Rugby Championship


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 4 Aug 2012 at 18:19
Tagged with : ,

Heyneke Meyer has added 3 new faces to his squad ahead of the Boks Rugby Championship campaign, although one, Andries Bekker, is hardly a newcomer to the Test scene.

The two newcomers are Lions prop Pat Ciliers, rewarded for great form at tight head during this year’s Super Rugby campaign and Stormers flank Siya Kolisi, whose omission for the mid-year tests against England caused quite a stir in some parts.

The Sharks have 10 players in the squad and incredibly, the Bulls have 11! The likes of JJ Engelbrecht, Jacques Potgieter, Jano Vermaak and Zane Kirchner are somewhat fortunate to still be in the picture. Ryan Kankowski and Wynand Olivier are both missing, having opted to continue their careers in Japan for the time being. Western Province again are under-represented, with only four in the squad (one of them a back!). Both Gio Aplon and Juan de Jongh have been left out again.

The Springbok squad is:

Props:
Pat Cilliers, MTN Golden Lions, uncapped
Jannie du Plessis, The Sharks, 33 caps
Dean Greyling, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 2 caps
Tendai Mtawarira, The Sharks, 35 caps

Hookers:
Bismarck du Plessis, The Sharks, 45 caps
Chiliboy Ralepelle, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 21 caps
Adriaan Strauss, Toyota FS Cheetahs, 12 caps

Locks:
Andries Bekker, DHL Western Province, 24 caps
Eben Etzebeth, DHL Western Province, 3 caps
JuandrΓ© Kruger, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 3 caps
Flip van der Merwe, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 14 caps

Loose Forwards:
Willem Alberts, The Sharks, 11 caps
Marcell Coetzee, The Sharks, 3 caps
Keegan Daniel, The Sharks, 3 caps
Siya Kolisi, DHL Western Province, uncapped
Jacques Potgieter, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 1 cap
Pierre Spies, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 50 caps

Scrumhalves:
Ruan Pienaar, Ulster, Northern Ireland, 54 caps
Jano Vermaak, Vodacom Blue Bulls, uncapped.
Francois Hougaard, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 18 caps

Flyhalves:
Elton Jantjies, MTN Golden Lions, uncapped
MornΓ© Steyn, Vodacom Blue Bulls,, 37 caps

Centres:
Jean de Villiers, DHL Western Province, 75 caps (captain)
JJ Engelbrecht, Vodacom Blue Bulls, uncapped
Frans Steyn, The Sharks, 49 caps

Wings:
Lwazi Mvovo, The Sharks, 4 caps
JP Pietersen, The Sharks 45 caps
Bryan Habana, DHL Western Province, 77 caps

Fullbacks:
Zane Kirchner, Vodacom Blue Bulls, 15 caps
Patrick Lambie, The Sharks, 13 caps


62 Comments

  • too many fucking Bulls. Did Meyer not watch Super Rugby?

  • Comment 1, posted at 04.08.12 18:20:38 by robdylan Reply
    Competition Winner Administrator
    robdylan
     
  • Very worried about the lack of depth at prop.

  • Comment 2, posted at 04.08.12 18:25:42 by Orelando_G Reply

    Orelando_G
     
  • @Orelando_G (Comment 2) : ja – it’s a concern. How did “can’t scrum for shit” Greyling end up being our reserve loosehead?

  • Comment 3, posted at 04.08.12 18:26:15 by robdylan Reply
    Competition Winner Administrator
    robdylan
     
  • πŸ™„ What a joke!

  • Comment 4, posted at 04.08.12 18:26:26 by Ben Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Ben
     
  • @robdylan (Comment 1) : if I can through on a F-bomb… Fcking ditto!?!

  • Comment 5, posted at 04.08.12 18:27:20 by Ice Reply
    Competition Winner Ice
     
  • Coenie still injured?

  • Comment 6, posted at 04.08.12 18:27:35 by Ben Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Ben
     
  • @Ben (Comment 6) : apparently

  • Comment 7, posted at 04.08.12 18:30:02 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • WTF has Kanko decided to go on a Japan $ making trip when his fom is looking good. Now we have to put up with soft*ock Spies again! Absolutley no imagination in team selection. Kiwi and Oz video analisis guys must have the easiest days when evaluating this team

  • Comment 8, posted at 04.08.12 18:32:10 by dumpandsplit Reply

    dumpandsplit
     
  • This day can’t get any worse.. can not believe this…
    And to think I was happy with HM’s appointment..
    How can I support the team if the best player are not picked..

  • Comment 9, posted at 04.08.12 18:32:56 by Franshark Reply
    Author
    Franshark
     
  • Loving rugby is becoming painful again – Lambie at fullback is working on my nerves, but then Kirchner as the only other alternative (according to our blue coach) is even worse.

    M Steyn yet again at fh – but then if not Lambie (because Lambie will have to be a fb, ’cause sideshow Bob….really…no comment), who else. (no – not Elton)

    And Pierre Spies, but then Kanko removed himself from the race by signing a 6 month contract to play in Japan.

    Don’t even wanna talk about the blue locks – vomit
    Dean “I can’t scrum but I can play dirty” Greyling – vomit x2

    Everything points to: “Next year….definitely next year everything will be better, better selections, better SR season” πŸ˜₯

    Can we talk about what the Sharks will possibly look like for the CC already…maybe there’s some light there.

  • Comment 10, posted at 04.08.12 18:38:48 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 10) : ja please, exiting times with some fresh, young players…

  • Comment 11, posted at 04.08.12 18:41:09 by Franshark Reply
    Author
    Franshark
     
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 10) : this team is gonna rock! (CC)

  • Comment 12, posted at 04.08.12 18:42:37 by Ice Reply
    Competition Winner Ice
     
  • How is Ludik not in the squad??? We have Lambie, who is now considered a full-back but injury-prone and Zane “I don’t know how to defend” Kirchner… Man, this is bad. I was hoping for common sense with HM, but in some areas it’s the same shit over and over again as we had with P Divvy.

    And how is Jano Vermaak (reserve scrum-half in Kicktoria) in the bok squad when we have guys like Piet van Zyl actually playing on a regular basis.

    I am just very unhappy to see this squad without Anton Bresler, Gio Aplon and Ryan Kankowski, who all 3 are also in very good form.

  • Comment 13, posted at 04.08.12 18:45:20 by TRF_Ezequiel Reply

    TRF_Ezequiel
     
  • @Franshark (Comment 11) : Guys that I am really looking forward to seeing in CC this year:

    Herbst – he’s really looked good this SR season

    Bressler + PSdT – Can’t hardly wait to see them forge their partnership, will be unstoppable

    Whitehead + Jordaan – Butter, meet hot knife

    Ludik – time to cement him as our fullback, no if’s, but’s or else’s

    Positions I’m really nervous about: Scrumhalf and Flyhalf

  • Comment 14, posted at 04.08.12 18:46:10 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 14) : Hoping Reinach gets a few chances at 9,

  • Comment 15, posted at 04.08.12 18:52:51 by Die Kriek Reply

     
  • Hehehe…HM will learn the hard way.

  • Comment 16, posted at 04.08.12 18:53:10 by GreatSharksays Reply

     
  • So disappointed by the squad!! Potgieter ❓ Spies 😯 ❓ Morne Steyn 😐 ❓

    What about Peter Grant, Kanko and Rynhard Elstadt?? I thought oz and New Zealand were looking a little weak until I saw our squad.
    If we play the same way we did against England in the third test we’ll be slaughtered!

  • Comment 17, posted at 04.08.12 18:56:31 by ChrisS Reply
    Author
    ChrisS
     
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 14) :

    1. Chadwick
    2. Burden
    3. Herbst
    4. Sykes
    5. Bresler
    6. Botes
    7. Deysel
    8. Mthembu
    9. McLeod
    10. Viljoen
    11. Ludik
    12. Whitehead
    13. Jordaan
    14. Ndungane
    15. Prinsloo

  • Comment 18, posted at 04.08.12 19:01:07 by Ben Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Ben
     
  • @Ben (Comment 18) : Or Sithole on wing and Ludik 15. Prinsloo to the bench.

    Which I prefer.

  • Comment 19, posted at 04.08.12 19:03:25 by Ben Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Ben
     
  • You know it’s bad when you’re more bummed about the Bok Squad selected than about losing the Super Rugby final πŸ™„

  • Comment 20, posted at 04.08.12 19:04:23 by ChrisS Reply
    Author
    ChrisS
     
  • @Ben (Comment 19) : @Ben (Comment 18) : Doesn’t Jordaan play flyhalf as well?

  • Comment 21, posted at 04.08.12 19:04:58 by ChrisS Reply
    Author
    ChrisS
     
  • @ChrisS (Comment 21) : He has but no thanks.

  • Comment 22, posted at 04.08.12 19:05:48 by Ben Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Ben
     
  • @ChrisS (Comment 20) : I think its a case of diverting the attention to something else to be able to let the anger out! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 23, posted at 04.08.12 19:07:07 by Ice Reply
    Competition Winner Ice
     
  • @Ben (Comment 19) : Agree on that one, think Prinsloo is one for the future, but Ludik – oh Ludik is a gem.

    Also would rather have PSdT than Sykes, Bressler is already there to do the grunt work, PSdT adds to open play.

  • Comment 24, posted at 04.08.12 19:07:55 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 24) : True.

  • Comment 25, posted at 04.08.12 19:08:54 by Ben Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Ben
     
  • @Ben (Comment 18) : Bosman most prob at 12 till Tim is recovered

  • Comment 26, posted at 04.08.12 19:10:52 by Franshark Reply
    Author
    Franshark
     
  • @Ben (Comment 22) : Haven’t seen him there. Just remember someone mentioning it in a previous article.

    @Ice (Comment 23) : I expected a loss due to the insane travel schedule. I didn’t expect a terrible Bok squad though :mrgreen:

  • Comment 27, posted at 04.08.12 19:11:47 by ChrisS Reply
    Author
    ChrisS
     
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 24) : Psdt also did well @ flank for young bokkies

  • Comment 28, posted at 04.08.12 19:12:08 by Franshark Reply
    Author
    Franshark
     
  • Do we have any backup stock to Dale worth talking about?

    Dale has not been inspiring at all, I kind of see him as a week link. Didn’t we have someone with the baby Boks? van Dyk I think, or is he a th?

  • Comment 29, posted at 04.08.12 19:14:11 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • @Franshark (Comment 28) : Yeah he was great there, but I think in the interest of a long playing career and Sharks/Springbok rugby, he’s best developed at Lock.

    We’ve got way too many loosies in SA – and far too few locks with his athletic ability.

  • Comment 30, posted at 04.08.12 19:18:46 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • Rob
    There’s actually 5 Stormers players in the squad:

    JDV, Habana, Bekker, Etzebeth and Kolisi. πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 31, posted at 04.08.12 19:24:12 by wpw Reply
    Author
    wpw
     
  • @robdylan (Comment 1) : His pink coloured glasses made it very difficult for him to get the whole picture πŸ‘Ώ

  • Comment 32, posted at 04.08.12 19:40:23 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

    Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette
     
  • That Morne Steyn is regarded as Springbok material after the rubbish season he’s had and the appalling form he’s in is indicative of the fact that it’s all over for Pat Lambie who will now be consigned to a position he’s ill suited for while a lesser man continues to ruin our chances of making any headway against stiff opposition by running out in the Bok No 10 shirt. I am sick of this s*** This means we won’t see Pat back a FH till next year, and only then if Plum has the balls to use him where he plays best. What a complete and utter WASTE OF TALENT πŸ‘Ώ

  • Comment 33, posted at 04.08.12 20:05:59 by Shaz Reply
    Author
    Shaz
     
  • Not a big deal really. Yes, Spies and Potgieter are awfully lucky, but you dont just drop your flyhalf on 3 bad Bok games – lets just hope that HM is going to pick (or drop) based on performance during the season.

    Kanko cost himself a place, and as for Ludik and Bresler, most Sharks fans wouldnt have selected them at the beginning of the season, so we need to keep perspective on that one.

    Jano Vermaak is a very good scrumhalf – how I wish we could lure him to Durbs.

  • Comment 34, posted at 04.08.12 20:35:13 by Big Fish Reply
    Author
    Big Fish
     
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 30) : good point…

  • Comment 35, posted at 04.08.12 21:40:54 by Franshark Reply
    Author
    Franshark
     
  • Just fuck rugby in general.

  • Comment 36, posted at 04.08.12 21:41:38 by Uli Reply
    Valued Sharksworld Supporter
    Uli Boelie
     
  • Seems between HM and Plum they are going to destroy Lambie’s career with this obsession with him at 15. Today just confirmed it for me – Pat should concentrate on 10.

  • Comment 37, posted at 04.08.12 21:44:28 by Bokhoring Reply
    Administrator
    Bokhoring
     
  • @Big Fish (Comment 34) : I hear you, but we are not at the beginning of the season.. And Anton and Ludik has proven to be better options, or do we wait till they loose form before we want to pick them, Kanko is not gone.. Ruan is from outside and if FdP made himself available he would have been there too…

  • Comment 38, posted at 04.08.12 21:47:59 by Franshark Reply
    Author
    Franshark
     
  • @Bokhoring (Comment 37) : agree fully.. This should end, if Lambi is not picked at 10 then leave him at the Sharks to play CC at FH

  • Comment 39, posted at 04.08.12 21:49:43 by Franshark Reply
    Author
    Franshark
     
  • @Franshark (Comment 38) : Hun, I so agree on that one!

  • Comment 40, posted at 04.08.12 21:54:04 by Ice Reply
    Competition Winner Ice
     
  • @Ice (Comment 40) : Anton has shown up every lock in SA and many more in Aus/NZ.. I am furious that his not in the squad…

  • Comment 41, posted at 04.08.12 21:57:20 by Franshark Reply
    Author
    Franshark
     
  • Seriously.. Potgieter and no HB… If they don’t want so many Sharks then pick Joe but geez Krusty… Come on…
    (I should stop.. I’m getting way to worked up)

  • Comment 42, posted at 04.08.12 22:01:52 by Franshark Reply
    Author
    Franshark
     
  • @Franshark (Comment 41) : Anton has beem superb, Ludik has been superb..someone asked me if Plums shunting around of the players has not had an influence…hell?! what was he supposed to do with injuries? he only has so many players at his disposal?? WTF was the poor guy suppose to do?

  • Comment 43, posted at 04.08.12 22:04:23 by Ice Reply
    Competition Winner Ice
     
  • @Ice (Comment 43) :
    It’s a fair question though. Lambie and Ludik didn’t have enough time in their preferred positions. Bresler is just unlucky in that he is behind two other good 5 locks. But if he remains consistent, he will get there.

  • Comment 44, posted at 04.08.12 22:19:40 by Big Fish Reply
    Author
    Big Fish
     
  • @Big Fish (Comment 44) : thank you! Finally after 4 years you think my rants makes sense! πŸ˜†

  • Comment 45, posted at 04.08.12 22:29:27 by Ice Reply
    Competition Winner Ice
     
  • Regarding Kankowski, someone on here mentioned his contract doesn’t make allowances for national callups otherwise I suspect both he and Olivier would still be in the team.

    Surprise omissions? Only ones I can think of are Ludik or Pieterson (for Kirchner) and Brussouw (for Potgieter). Bresler’s time will come (and with the injury-prone Bekker probably sooner than later).

  • Comment 46, posted at 04.08.12 23:25:54 by vanmartin Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    vanmartin
     
  • @vanmartin (Comment 46) : Just read that Brussouw is still injured.

  • Comment 47, posted at 04.08.12 23:35:23 by vanmartin Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    vanmartin
     
  • I’m very happy for pat cilliers (the only surprise selection in this team for me). He really deserves it. Hope he gets some game time.

    No other surprises for me. It’s basically the same team that was selected for the June tours, except Bekker in for Franco van der Merwe. Siya is in for Kanko, but he made that decision all on his own. Very peculiar given that a new coach just took over from the Boks, but maybe he had spoken to Meyer before hand and got a feeling it will be 3 minute stints here and there again… I would have left just for a change of scenery.

  • Comment 48, posted at 04.08.12 23:42:14 by Letgo Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Letgo
     
  • I think Dean Greyling has been good this season and except for Coenie (injured) and Steven Kitshoff who is still really young, he deserves this spot. I think Cillier may cover the bench though since he can scrum at tighthead and loosehead.

  • Comment 49, posted at 04.08.12 23:44:57 by Letgo Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Letgo
     
  • Bresler didn’t dominate anything. He’s been putting in really good defensive efforts and improving on his physicality with ball in hand, but I think he’s way of Bok selection. He will also have to take more responsibility at line out time if he wants any chance of of being considered and aside from Juandre Kruger who’s given a really good account of himself in his first stint as Springbok lock, there’s still Andries Bekker to get by, as well as a few other young talented players just starting to make their way onto the scene. We’ll see more of them and how Anton does against these players in the CC.

    Give it time people.

    Flip van der Merwe, according to me has never reached to potential that was promised from him and a better, more diverse replacement (that could possibly cover more positions) could be found for him.

    Etsebeth, I’m sure, no one here is complaining about.

  • Comment 50, posted at 04.08.12 23:56:40 by Letgo Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Letgo
     
  • HM clearly doesn’t rate Brussouw and to be fair, he can’t really be selected based on current form, only reputation so I’m not complaining.

    Kanko left. If I was Bok coach I would have been upset by this. He would have been my first choice 8, with Alberts and Marcell completing the loose trio.

    I would basically select anyone above Spies though. Siya, Keegan, Alberts, Marcell… not Potgieter, his selection could be argued I suppose, but not with a very strong argument as we have so many injuries in this position and Potgieter actually gave a pretty good account of himself this season.

    I don’t particularly like the guy and the look of him, but he’s basically picked as a last option and if he does get used I hope he does well, if not, then we’ll have an airtight argument for his replacement.

  • Comment 51, posted at 05.08.12 00:04:39 by Letgo Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Letgo
     
  • McLeod no. Duvenage no. Bondisio maybe, but only based on last years CC and a few games this year. Piet van Zyl after his first season potentially yes, but there’s still alot to be worked on. Sarel Pretorius didn’t do himself any favours.

    Jano has played good rugby for about 4 or 5 years now. I always though he was a quality scrummy and was a bit baffled by his decision to go sit on the Bulls bench.

  • Comment 52, posted at 05.08.12 00:10:20 by Letgo Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Letgo
     
  • At least Goosen is still injured. :mrgreen:

    Morne would have to prove himself in the next few games. Average will be good enough though, since Meyer has confidence in him and won’t drop him too easily. I want Lambie to be given a shot, but it doesn’t work like that. You don’t just drop players that have done everything expected of them until their last three games.

    South Africa have never had the guts to play a creative Fly Half like Lambie, even Jantjies and Goosen would be more of a safe option, as they’re more inclined to play to a gameplan, whereas Lambie plays to the game being played.

  • Comment 53, posted at 05.08.12 00:15:52 by Letgo Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Letgo
     
  • Also, Lambie’s been playing 15. He and he’s coaches hasn’t done much to help his chances here and in my opinion, the longer he plays at 15 the smaller his chances of maintaining a spot in the Bok team. He’s not a 15. A player like Taute could easily play him out of this position as he as a bigger boot, he’s stronger on his feet and overall just better suited to the position.

  • Comment 54, posted at 05.08.12 00:19:10 by Letgo Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Letgo
     
  • Anyone of the many talented centers in South Africa could have gotten a spot ahead of JJ, but then if JJ was not selected it would have been unfair against him too. Give him a chance to prove himself or show his unworthy before we kick him out.

    Not that anyone here commented on him specifically, but he has been playing for the Bulls, that shouldn’t count against him. He has huge talent and clearly HM rates him more than he does de Jongh …. Ebersohn, Sade.

  • Comment 55, posted at 05.08.12 00:23:15 by Letgo Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Letgo
     
  • I suppose Ludik could have been selected ahead of Zane. He has done nothing to prove that he could become a Springbok great and I would rather have seen Joe P, Willie le Roux and Louis Ludik in his place.

    Then there’s the injured Taute that may still come into contention.

    There’s a few players I would have selected over him really, I just don’t think he’s up to standard.

    But all in all….

    … not all that much we can complain about, especially considering that this is the exact same team that was selected for the June tours and we should have expected this.

  • Comment 56, posted at 05.08.12 00:29:05 by Letgo Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Letgo
     
  • And that’s all I have to say. πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜€

  • Comment 57, posted at 05.08.12 00:33:06 by Letgo Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld Author
    Letgo
     
  • Could be worse, but still not happy with this squad at all.

    Could be rightfully upset if you were Steven Kitshoff, missing out to Greyling who’s been nothing short of a disaster whenever he puts on the Bok jersey.

    The loose-forwards are a HUGE worry. Outside of Marcell Coetzee & Willem Alberts I have little faith in the others. Siya, on potential yes, but he’s got a lot of areas that he needs to work on. Adds little at line-outs and needs to up his workrate to something close to that of Marcell Coetzee if he wants to make it as a shorter guy who’s not as much of an enforcer or fetcher.

    Jano Vermaak again makes it because he’s a Blue Bull. Piet van Zyl should’ve been in his spot.

    Elton Jantjies, I have no idea why he’s been picked. But I guess Johan Goosen will take his spot sooner then later. Hopefully before Elton makes his debut.

    And you could make a solid argument for any of Juan de Jongh, Gio Aplon, Joe Pietersen & Louis Ludik. (Jaco Taute as well if he were fit).

  • Comment 58, posted at 05.08.12 03:15:48 by hendrikp Reply

    hendrikp
     
  • @Franshark (Comment 9) :

    i agree …

  • Comment 59, posted at 05.08.12 08:34:36 by Zibbie Reply
    Friend of SharksworldCompetition Winner
    Zibbie
     
  • Ai πŸ™„ πŸ™

  • Comment 60, posted at 05.08.12 10:13:57 by JarsonX Reply
    Competition WinnerCompetition WinnerCompetition Winner
    JarsonX
     
  • @robdylan (Comment 1) : Rob , I thought swearing was taboo on this site??

  • Comment 61, posted at 05.08.12 13:55:22 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

    CLASSIC SHARK
     
  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 61) : πŸ˜†

  • Comment 62, posted at 05.08.12 19:23:46 by Ice Reply
    Competition Winner Ice
     

Add Comment

You must be logged in to post a comment.