Sloppy Sharks get the job done

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Lions, Original Content, Sharks on 18 Aug 2012 at 21:31
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It wasn’t pretty for large portions of a pedestrian 80 minutes of rugby at Kings Park this evening, but in winning 30-14 against the Lions, the Sharks have managed to haul themselves free of the chasing pack an move three points clear at the summit of the Currie Cup log, after two rounds.

In a first half to forget, it was the Lions who had the only real joy, with referee Mark Lawrence awarding them an early penalty try after the Sharks were adjudged to have infringed at a 5 metre defensive scrum. A pair of Meyer Bosman penalties, one early and one late, kept the home side in the hunt, despite an ill-disciplined and inaccurate performance that saw little going on with ball in hand.

A characteristic purple patch in the third quarter changed the complexion of the encounter, though. Bosman first edged the Sharks in front with a third penalty, before a great team move saw Sbura Sithole cross for his first try of the season, in the left-hand corner. Odwa Ndungane added a second not long afterwards and the Sharks suddenly found themselves 16 points to the good, at 23-7 after an hour’s play. The Lions fought back, though and managed a second score of their own as the fourth quarter got underway; Cobus Grobbelaar drove over off a lineout drive, with Butch James duly adding the extras.

It was the Sharks who laughed last, though, with captain Jean Deysel scoring the try of the game as he burst over after a good break from Bosman. A helter-skelter last 10 minutes produced no further score, though and the Sharks were left ruing the missed opportunities that may have seen them win this game with a bonus point.

For a second week running, though, they’ll be bloody pleased with just the win, given how they started.

Sharks (30): Tries: Sithole, Ndungane, Deysel. Conversions: Bosman (3). Penalties: Bosman (3)
Lions (14): Tries: Grobbelaar, penalty try. Converions: James (2)


  • Thought Mark Lawrence officiated the game quite well tonight – either that or Louwrens was just THAT bad last weekend. Some good performances; Riaan Viljoen was good again, notwithstanding the massive kick to the head he took from Butch. Well done boys!

  • Comment 1, posted at 18.08.12 21:46:34 by MerckZ Reply
  • Don’t think Rob watched the Bokke game, this game felt like a roller coaster ride after the driving miss daisy the Boks dished up.

    Great win for our hybrid SR/VodaCup team vs. a close to 100% SR outfit (still claiming that they deserve their spot in SR – guess tonight’s result should bring that belief to a review board)

  • Comment 2, posted at 18.08.12 22:00:29 by FireTheLooser Reply
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 2) : Think we need back up for our front row? Herbst is solid at tighthead, but we were in reverse against the Lions. Wouldn’t mind pinching Cilliers back for SoupRugby, or possibly tempting Carstens back east…

  • Comment 3, posted at 18.08.12 22:17:41 by MerckZ Reply
  • Chadwick is pathetic, he has a kak work rate, a kak scrumming technique and a kak morale. Walking hands on the hips the whole game. As a loosehead I think I am allowed to critize him. We need to pinch Cilliers back. Other than Herbz we don’t have quality back up at front

  • Comment 4, posted at 18.08.12 22:30:28 by KingRiaan Reply
  • @KingRiaan (Comment 4) : Time for someone else to be given a chance IMO. The sooner the better.

  • Comment 5, posted at 19.08.12 04:51:17 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • I am busy re-watching the match and would love to see Chadwick’s ruck stats. He jogs up to them and then takes up station as a pillar, whether on defence or on attack.

    Initially I thought maybe the Sharks have been told to limit the numbers committed to the rucks, but then you see players arriving after Chadwick clearly committing to the ruck with intensity.

  • Comment 6, posted at 19.08.12 05:09:44 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @MerckZ (Comment 3) : Why we let Cilliers go in the first place I don’t know, but he will be a welcome return for the Sharks.

    But he’s a th, we need to seriously find ourselves a lh to replace Chadwick – but where?

  • Comment 7, posted at 19.08.12 08:20:03 by FireTheLooser Reply
  • Concerns after last night’s game: scrumming, sloppy passing, protecting the ball at rucks.

    Pleasing points: Bosmans kicking to poles (even converting kicks from the sidelines), Jordaans hamstring, Deysel’s workrate.
    I don’t think that one of the looseheads (Mienie/van Dyk) from the u21 can do a worse job than Chadwick. The sloppy passing I think comes from the Sharks trying to play a high intensity game, making off loads in the tackle or making risky passes.

  • Comment 8, posted at 19.08.12 08:41:50 by JustPlainSHARK Reply
  • I think that this was a really positive game for us! Meyer’s kicking was a pleasant surprise, Jordaans hammie, Sithole I think had a cracker (rectifying his blunder immediately). Yes it was sloppy but remember its only the second game of the season. Something that has gone unnoticed is the step up Charl made! After the hype about Reinach, Charl really justified his pick ahead of Reinach. Also Deysel is flourishing as cappie and its seems to be upping his game, I am really positive about tis CC. Only real negative (apart from our forwards) is the-player-who-shall-not-be-named.

  • Comment 9, posted at 19.08.12 09:00:53 by Ajsharky Reply
  • Arno Botha ,really ? The kids not ready and based on yesterday’s performance vs. Josh Strauss I’d say Deysel should be on that bench as a like for like replacement for Alberts.

  • Comment 10, posted at 19.08.12 09:09:08 by Talent Reply
  • wrong thread ,opend two haha

  • Comment 11, posted at 19.08.12 09:09:43 by Talent Reply
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 7) : I think Pat thought his Bok chances would improve if he moved out from under the massive shadows of Beast and Jannie (he’s pretty solid on both sides of the scrum), and his move was vindicated yesterday. He’ll probably choose to be 1st choice with the Kings next year, instead of fighting for a bench spot with Herbst though, so maybe our best bet is to cozy up to Deon Carstens and remind him of the good times he had on this coast.

    That said, I initially misjudged Anton Bresler (I blame the haircut, you can’t help but be prejudiced against someone who commits such a heinous crime as that) and he turned out to be one of our best performers in the latter stages of the S15, so maybe Chadwick (and Redelinghuys) deserve more patience too.

  • Comment 12, posted at 19.08.12 10:13:03 by MerckZ Reply

  • @Ajsharky (Comment 9) : Deysel is giving me serious Teichmann vibes. He is a leader by example, but loved watching him give the troops a dressing down in a huddle. We need to find a way to get all our loose-forwards on the field at once during the S15, they’re all just that good.

  • Comment 13, posted at 19.08.12 10:22:42 by MerckZ Reply

  • I think Chadwick played ok, his conditioning is way out like some of the other players, after 20 mins they were puffing but that was also due to the fast paced game. I feel the Sharks improved as a unit and chadwich got stronger over time, we nailing our guys but let us look at how the lions were scrumming, they’ve been together the entire super rugby unlike our boys.Give them time

  • Comment 14, posted at 19.08.12 15:18:22 by Dunx Reply

  • funny..reading just plain sharks comment about Miennie/Van dyk… come in for Chadwick…Van dyk is a tighthead!!!I fear we are getting seriously ruthless about our condemnation of all at the Sharks..hell if Plum had read some of the comments I doubt he would have made the final of the S15…

  • Comment 15, posted at 19.08.12 18:04:15 by shade Reply

  • And another point…how could people consider Cilliers and Carstens..The Sharks have secured the SA u/20 tighthead for the last four years..Herbst,Redlinghys,Schonert and Vandyk…..a wealth of talent..come now the time has come to back the youngsters…look at Province..Kitschoff,Malherbe

  • Comment 16, posted at 19.08.12 18:08:38 by shade Reply

  • @shade (Comment 16) : We Need LH backup not TH. 🙁

  • Comment 17, posted at 19.08.12 18:44:49 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I’ve been critical of Chadwick in the past, but to be fair, not only is he just coming back from a long sojourn on the sidelines, but he is replacing and being compared against an emerging legend.

    In any event, we got caned on the TH side. I’m a big Herbst fan, but he got dismantled. Time to come back stronger.

  • Comment 18, posted at 19.08.12 20:36:43 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Chadwicks criticism hinges around his general lack of commitment. He’s not joining the rucks, hes missing tackles. Even when scrumming hes not great – his first movement is down and then back before he evens out the contest which is transferring the pressure to the tighthead

    @MerckZ – I disagree over MLs refereeing this weekend. He made some odd calls that even had the commentators confused on numerous occasions. The penalty try was not a penalty try. It did not collape on contact, the players remained bound. Sure the sharks were under a lot of pressure BUT the scrum had gone through the 90 degrees before a penalty was awardable and any scrum under pressure if it goes through the 90 will break up – its physics. There were no repeated offences – it was a poor decision that could have altered the match. There were numerous others -The butch boot was another strange one. The law doesnt give a ref the option not to penalise for “unintentional” foul/dangerous play – its not in the rule book. If you high tackle someone unintentionally you get penalized and if you go to kick the ball and someones head is in the proximity of the ball and you miss its dangerous and you are compelled to penalize….its a no brainer. Reckless play is penalizable. The other interesting ML moment was when he penalized the sharks for counter rucking and gave the penalty for taking out the scrumhalf…. that was a shocker.

  • Comment 19, posted at 20.08.12 07:18:59 by byron Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 17) :

    He has had a lot of opportunities and he has not stepped up sufficiently for me to be excited about him. He doesn’t seem to be improving and that is my worry. The sharks have put a lot of time and effort into him and they are not seeing the rewards. They did the same with bresler and look at him as a player now! I haven’t seen the step-up from Chadwick to encourage me to persist with him going forward.

    If I were the coach I would be looking to blood a youngster who can make the step-up or look to bring i another player – I think we need another plan B for beast. Hey the sharks gameplan hinges around a fully firing tight five not a tight 4.5

  • Comment 20, posted at 20.08.12 07:29:23 by byron Reply

  • @byron (Comment 20) : You are preaching to the choir when addressing me on the subject. 🙂

  • Comment 21, posted at 20.08.12 08:05:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 19) : Well, I do agree with you on those three. The penalty try should probably have just been a penalty, was always under the impression that it had to happen repeatedly before a penalty try would be awarded.

    The counter-rucking pen against us was particularly annoying. That said, compared to ML’s usual performances, where it’s more difficult to pick out where he actually made a correct decision in the match than any wrong decisions, and compared to Louwrens van der Merwe the weekend before, it was a relatively good performance by ML.

    Either that, or I was just feeling philosophical and Zen after accepting Liverpool’s 3 – 0 loss to West Brom. Supporting Liverpool and the Sharks can require a fair amount of meditation/alcohol.

  • Comment 22, posted at 20.08.12 10:53:17 by MerckZ Reply


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