Richard Ferguson

Coetzee on injuries and potential signings

Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, WP on 21 Aug 2012 at 09:30
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Western Province received some good news over the weekend, as two of their stars in the Springbok squad were left behind, with Juan de Jongh and Siya Kolisi being able to take part in Currie Cup action this weekend.

It is a bitter sweet feeling for coach Allister Coetzee, who is sad that his players are not representing the national side, but will be relieved to receive a timely boost ahead of their clash against the Lions in Johannesburg.

With news that debutant Ederies Arendse might not be fit to face the Lions this week, it is likely that Gio Aplon will shift across to the wing, and a fullback be slotted in while Joe Pietersen recovers. Pietersen is believed to be two weeks away from action.

With Juan de Jongh back in the selection frame, it is likely that he will join Marcel Brache in midfield, meaning JP du Plessis would likely revert to the bench. Siya Kolisi’s inclusion comes at the perfect time, with Deon Fourie having done flanker duties but now required in the front row thanks to Tiaan Liebenberg’s call up to the Springboks.

Fourie sat out training on Monday, but he will be okay to take the field this weekend, and will lead the team once again. In other team news, Coetzee hinted that he may rest Dewaldt Duvenhage for another week, following an impressive display from Louis Schreuder. Nick Koster is still on the sidelines, with a return to club action in two weeks’ time a time frame on his return.

In completely unrelated news, Coetzee hinted to Die Burger that he may look at some of the Lions players ahead of Super Rugby 2013, stating that he knows that certain players have clauses releasing them from their contracts should the Lions not take part in Super Rugby. A name that Coetzee singled out was that of Elton Jantjes, stating that he is a danger man against his Western Province side in their clash this weekend.

The Lions got confirmation last week that they will not take part in Super Rugby 2013, which could mean a player exodus for the union. It is only a matter of time until the stars in the Lions setup, particularly the Springboks and nearly-Boks, such as Jantjes, Pat Cilliers, Josh Strauss and Jaco Taute find their way to other, Super Rugby playing franchises.


  • JP du Plessis on the bench? I thought he is the best centre in the country?

  • Comment 1, posted at 21.08.12 09:40:04 by Bite me Reply
    Bite me

  • Comment 2, posted at 21.08.12 09:55:36 by markm Reply
  • And so the Lion poaching begins 😯

  • Comment 3, posted at 21.08.12 10:18:31 by Viking Reply
  • bring taute to the Sharks as well as Patrick can come back too.

  • Comment 4, posted at 21.08.12 10:32:04 by Dunx Reply

  • Jantjies might just be the spark the WP/Stormers backline are looking for.

  • Comment 5, posted at 21.08.12 10:53:23 by vanmartin Reply
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  • If the Sharks are going to buy any player from the Lions we need to set our focus on Andries Coetzee. That guy has got some serious talent and can also play 10.

  • Comment 6, posted at 21.08.12 11:32:08 by Viking Reply
  • @Viking (Comment 6) : I think they should get jc van rensberg we need a proper 2nd choice front row,when our boks are gone we look shacky,dale coming along fine but I don’t think he will ever be a feard loosehead

  • Comment 7, posted at 21.08.12 11:39:52 by Poisy Reply
  • @Poisy (Comment 7) : Isn’t JC a th? If he’s a lh get him over to the Sharks immediately.

  • Comment 8, posted at 21.08.12 12:02:15 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • Hopefully Stormers get Pat Cilliers & Elton Jantjies.

  • Comment 9, posted at 21.08.12 12:07:21 by hendrikp Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 8) : his a loosehead I think

  • Comment 10, posted at 21.08.12 12:18:04 by Poisy Reply
  • i was mortified to find out while reading gavin rich’s column from last week that our bok FORWARDS coach johan van graan DOUBLES as our ATTACK coach

    who is the sharks attack coach?

  • Comment 11, posted at 21.08.12 12:43:23 by Megatron Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 11) : Im sure thats a typo. I dont know, ask your cuz and if he doesnt know then I too will be moryified. I presume it will be one of Bashford,Reece-Edwards or Garvey.

  • Comment 12, posted at 21.08.12 12:49:00 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 11) : plum ofcoz 🙄

  • Comment 13, posted at 21.08.12 12:50:08 by Poisy Reply
  • @Poisy (Comment 13) : Another string in Plums bow, Im impressed.

  • Comment 14, posted at 21.08.12 12:58:10 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 12) : no, typo!

    Skipper Jean de Villiers and forwards coach Johan van Graan, who doubles as an attack coach under Meyer at the Boks, have both spoken about the progress that was shown with the two excellent counter-attacking tries that helped turn the tide in the Springboks’ favour in the Durban game, plus the 30 minutes of spell-binding rugby produced at the start of the second. And they are not wrong.

    Meyer’s continued preference for the Morne Steyn mould of flyhalf will be considered by many to be the wrong message if the Boks really want to increase their attacking potency. There is a perception that Steyn stands too deep to ask questions of the opposing defensive system and bring those around him into the game.

    Certainly there were stages in the last test against England in Port Elizabeth that Steyn played really poorly, with his goalkicking failures appearing to impact on his confidence. Based purely on that game, the detractors are right – watching the Boks that day was about as interesting as trainspotting would be on a remote narrow-gauge railway line in the Karoo”

  • Comment 15, posted at 21.08.12 12:59:09 by Megatron Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 15) : It just seems wrong but that does’nt mean that it is. Was he also attack coach at the Bulls? Is Slaptjips still in the picture?

  • Comment 16, posted at 21.08.12 13:24:21 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 10) : You’re right, just watched the highlights of the game and saw the big 1 on his back.

  • Comment 17, posted at 21.08.12 13:29:06 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • We need to get Pat, Rhodes and maybe Taute.

  • Comment 18, posted at 21.08.12 17:51:05 by GreatSharksays Reply

  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 18) : nah I think we covered in those areas look out for chris cloete this boy can potch a ball almost as good as brussow and we have klenhause on top of alberts,deysel,botes,marcel and ryan,they can keep rhodes,as for fullback we have ludik,viljoen and prinsloo,I must say we have good backs its the props I’m worried about and we need a lineout coach,does anybody know where cooper is?

  • Comment 19, posted at 21.08.12 18:52:28 by Poisy Reply
  • Rhodes and his dodgy knees are where they belong, IMO

  • Comment 20, posted at 21.08.12 20:38:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • And now I see Kevin de Klerk moaning about the comments Coetzee made asking for more profesionalism.

    “I’m asking politely that they (the other unions) just portray a little bit of etiquette,”

    HAHAHA…what an idjit! I suppose thats why they’re in this position.

  • Comment 21, posted at 22.08.12 08:22:51 by Viking Reply
  • @Viking (Comment 21) : Agree with de Klerk, it was in poor taste but he probably deserves it following his two faced dealings with Taylor and Spencer.

  • Comment 22, posted at 22.08.12 08:53:52 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 22) : Please tell me what AC did wrong? State the obvious? And tell me where was de Klerks etiquette when he fired the support coaching staff with next to no warning after making promises that their jobs were safe?

    Your bitter and constant attacks on everything WP related is getting a wee bit old.

  • Comment 23, posted at 22.08.12 09:32:08 by molly Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 22) : This is a professional era and the Lions cannot expect their player to just hang around while the rest of the quality players go on and play Super Rugby. De Klerks best option is to find some middle ground with other unions for its players in a hope to retain them should they make it back to Super Rugby.

    Playing the “we need to be professional card” is rediculous and a last resort to try and retain some quality at the union. The players need to look after themselves if the union cannot do it for them. And it seems the lions can’t.

  • Comment 24, posted at 22.08.12 09:37:49 by Viking Reply
  • @Salmonoid (Comment 22) : Just another comment de Klerk made:
    “I really like Allister a lot, but I’m absolutely stunned that he made such an opportunistic statement. Where is the spirit of sport and the respect between us? What’s going on here is not sport.”

    It’s not Coetzee’s fault if players would rather play super rugby for the stormers rather than vodacom cup for the Lions. He would merely be affording some players the opportunity to play in the big leagues.

  • Comment 25, posted at 22.08.12 09:43:16 by Viking Reply
  • @Viking (Comment 25) : de Klerk is clutching a straws, and his only defense is blaming others.

    I think it’s time he shows some sportsmanship, etiquette and honor, and fall on his sword.

    But he won’t, the Lions union will be completely decimated and fat cat de Klerk will still be at the helm blaming everyone around him for what’s become of the Lions.

  • Comment 26, posted at 22.08.12 10:02:43 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 26) : Thats the unfortunate truth. The best the Lions can do is to start preperation work with the hope that the super rugby gets expanded in 2015 and they can participate again. But you cannot keep top quality players at the union without a guarantee of playing super rugby.

  • Comment 27, posted at 22.08.12 10:14:18 by Viking Reply
  • @molly (Comment 23) : Dont get your panties in a knot, this is a blog, not real life. Wipe the anti tears out your eyes and read past my criticism of AC and you will see I bring up exactly that point about De Klerks etiquette.
    Now back to AC, I just see it as a vulture waiting to pick at a not quite dead carcass, dont worry all unions are doing it, just not showing how desperate they are for the kill.
    And I thought Province supporters were made of sterner stuff. 😛

  • Comment 28, posted at 22.08.12 10:20:11 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Viking (Comment 24) : @Viking (Comment 27) : My comment to Molly about AC playing the desperate vulture is what I find in poor taste. Just my view, its not gospel. I also mention that all unions are probably licking their lips at the chance of moving in for the kill.

  • Comment 29, posted at 22.08.12 10:23:51 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Viking (Comment 25) : De Klerk really disappointed me with his handling of the Carlos Spencer and Wayne Taylor contracts, it doesnt mean that others have to act like knobs especially a few days before the two teams play each other.

  • Comment 30, posted at 22.08.12 10:32:49 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Stop perving damit 😈

  • Comment 31, posted at 22.08.12 11:55:10 by Zibbie Reply
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