Sharks player ratings v Lions

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 24 Sep 2012 at 09:28
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It’s always difficult to rate the guys after a game in which they played really, really well for the most part, yet ultimately lost the game. Still, that extra digit in the “w” column is the reason we take the field each week and if the guys don’t manage to pull through when it matters, I feel the ratings should reflect that. Here we go (and as always, feel free to disagree).

1) Dale Chadwick. The scrums were up and down, but failed at the crucial juncture. Chadwick was busy as a ball carrier, but made little real ground and also missed a crucial tackle late in the game. 5/10
2) Craig Burden. Not quite the bustling Burden we’ve come to expect, which is probably understandable given the lack of game time in recent weeks. Basics were decent (ok, scrumming not so much) and tended to drift laterally with ball in hand. 6/10
3) Wiehahn Herbst. A mixed bag, like Chadwick at scrum time. That said, when Wors did manage to get the hit, it was a sight to behold. 6/10
4) Steven Sykes. Did some good things here and there, but as the senior guy in the pack, didn’t do enough to really dominate the opposition, or keep his opposite number in check. 6/10
5) Anton Bresler. I feel like I’m repeating myself a bit when it comes to the tights, but Anton was about as good as the others – really standing out at times, but on the whole, failing to do enough to lay the platform for victory – particularly in the second half. In his case, though, we need to acknowledge that he wasn’t on the field when either of the Lions tries were scored. 6/10
6) Jacques Botes. A pretty good game from the nuggety flanker, who flew into tackles with real intent and generally popped up at the right places at the right times. 7/10
7) Jean Deysel. Did plenty of ball carrying, but actually accomplished very little with that possession. Has a tendency to take the ball standing still and make it far too easy for the opposition to gang-tackle him behind the advantage line. 5/10
8) Keegan Daniel. The best forward on the pack, by a long chalk. Keegan was utterly sublime on Saturday and if everyone else’s efforst could have matched his, the Sharks would have won easily. 9/10

9) Cobus Reinach. This kid is a special talent and week by week is showing that he is probably already the best scrumhalf in the Sharks squad. Wonderful pass, wonderful reading of the game and oodles of gas when needed. Superb! 8/10
10) Riaan Viljoen. Tjop’s somewhat agricultural style of play at flyhalf is starting to become a real weak point for the Sharks. He’s far too easy to read and tends to take on too much on his own. 5/10
11) Lwazi Mvovo. Looked superb when he had the ball and was instrumental in the Sharks’ first try. The old malaise of not doing enough to get te ball, though, was again in evidence. 6/10
12) Meyer Bosman. The usually trusty kicking boot let him down a bit on Saturday and while he did his bit on attack, the Lions centres were allowed far too much space to run. 6/10
13) Tim Whitehead. Had no ball to speak of on attack and while he did his bit on defence, the failure to really manage Lionel Mapoe let to great territorial gains for the Lions. 6/10
14) Odwa Ndungane. I feel like I could write exactly the same comment about Odwa every week. In a backline that occasionally struggles for direction, Odwa can always be counted on to do the basics superbly and weigh in with the occasional moment of magic. 7/10
15) Louis Ludik. Once again stood out as a cut above the others playing at this level. How the national selectors can continue to overlook Ludik remains a real mystery to me. 8/10

16) Monde Hadebe. Not long enough to be rated.
17) Julian Redelinghuys. Seemed to stand quite well at tighthead, but his introduction also coincided with a marked decline in the Sharks’ up-front dominance. 6/10
18) Jandre Marais. Can never be accused of not trying his best, or not throwing heart and soul into every single tackle and collision. We need more men of his ilk. 7/10
19) Brynard Stander. Not quite long enough for a rating, but this kid looks the business and must be pushing Deysel hard on current form.
20) Charl McLeod. It’s no coincidence that the Sharks started to lose when Reinach went off… and that’s about the kindest thing I can say. 5/10
21) Paul Jodraan. Another player to deliver a mixed bag. Put in some decent runs, but also made some silly mistakes, one of which led directly to a Lions try. 6/10
22) Sbura Sithole. Unused


  • Only players worth a mention ;Keegan ,Reinach and Marais -those three put in some serious effort. Second teir in terms of performances ;Botes ,Ludik and Stander.

    The Sharks ,should the have the opportunity, should have a look at Coetzee, Mapoe and Rhodes -obviously Jantjies and Tuate are favorites. I know Mapoe and the Sharks have some bad blood but put the past behind us.

    Wouldnt it be nice to have some Durban guys back? Namely Rhodes and Combrink

  • Comment 1, posted at 24.09.12 10:08:26 by Talent Reply
  • I think Odwa is my favourite player. The man works his socks off, he’s always where he needs to be. He must have been a loose forward in another life, with the number of rucks he hits. Louis Ludik is a similar player in that regard, they’re both consistently good, with good rugby brains and they’re not afraid to mix it up with the forwards. Class, the pair of them.

    Was a reasonable overall performance – if we’d finished off a number of well created chances in the first half, it might have been beyond the Lions.

    When are we going to get dubious TMO calls to go our way? Just as with Liverpool, all the dodgy calls go against the Sharks and none of the “dubious” calls in our favour are ever awarded.

  • Comment 2, posted at 24.09.12 10:31:34 by MerckZ Reply

  • One moment, chilling on the couch, hot cup of coffee in hand, watching Avengers, The Hulk kicking ass, get a whatsapp message from my friend “The Sharks are winning 16-6 and we have a very good attack in this game.” 😎

    Next moment, coffee finished, Iron Man is being pummelled by funny aliens, get a whatsapp message from my friend “We lost 30-22.” 🙄

    Why does everything bad happen at once?

  • Comment 3, posted at 24.09.12 10:56:45 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
    The Sharks Sharkie
  • Mapoe is turning out to be a great attacking weapon for the Lions. Certainly putting his hand up for higher honours. We need to win this coming weekend…with a bonus point.

  • Comment 4, posted at 24.09.12 12:38:03 by GreatSharksays Reply

  • Stander looking good and this Reinach has to stay on the field for as long as he is not injured. We need to find a replacement scrummie and some of the U21 props should be given a go.

  • Comment 5, posted at 24.09.12 13:33:14 by Bite me Reply

    Bite me
  • Dale got 5 because he’s a Shark – if he played for the Lions we would have won the game fairly comfortably.

    The one time he managed to bump off a defender (probably ever) he loses the ball. He gets turned over far to many times. We’ve got real problems at LH.

  • Comment 6, posted at 24.09.12 16:03:47 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • I’ve been thinking but with the props we are lacking serious experience in the Currie Cup campaign. Would it be a good idea to lure BJ Botha back and have him as our LH prop? We can really use his experience when our entire front-row is away on Bok duty. Pat Cilliers would be my first pick but I don’t see him returning as long as Plum is in charge. Those two don’t have a good relationship.

  • Comment 7, posted at 24.09.12 16:26:55 by TRF_Ezequiel Reply

  • Agreed on Chadwick, very disappointing after building up a bit of form over the last few games.
    He is quite tall for a Loosehead, shorter tightheads have a field day against him…one of the reasons the All Blacks always played Greg Somerville against Os Du Randt!
    The scrum was a big factor in the game, or our lack thereof but really there was such a lack of composure on attack most of the time;
    We showed excellent innovation in breaking the line on several occasions but we needed to show patience, a bit of structure once behind the Lions defence. Instead, we forced the pass which some were not even 50/50 to be honest! Conversely, when we were threatening the Lions tryline through phase play rather than via line breaks, we used too much structure which was really easy to defend against. We went the wrong way on a couple of occasions and really overdid the pick and go…
    Btw – Anybody else think they’d rather not have Jantjies based on his seemingly sullen outlook?!

  • Comment 8, posted at 24.09.12 16:39:21 by neilster Reply

  • @TRF_Ezequiel (Comment 7) : BJ is a specialist Tight-head prop, not LH. Would be awesome to see him finish his career with the Sharks, best Tight-head Prop South African had produced since Cobus Visagie IMHO.

  • Comment 9, posted at 24.09.12 16:47:18 by neilster Reply

  • Odwa is MVP. Rubbish comment on Mcleod! He passed but Chadw as usual has butterfingers!

  • Comment 10, posted at 24.09.12 17:46:46 by KILLER SHARK Reply
    Valued Sharksworld Supporter
  • @neilster (Comment 9) : What about JC JvR? He is the most consistent loosehead prop this entire year and it’s a miracle he is not part of the Bok squad at the moment, especially with only Mtawarira as a class TH prop in the team.

  • Comment 11, posted at 24.09.12 19:08:42 by TRF_Ezequiel Reply

  • @TRF_Ezequiel (Comment 11) : Very impressed with JC at LH, just thinking though has he dominated a really good TH yet? I also don’t remember him being any good until the Currie Cup, then again it would hard to shine in that Lions side pre-Currie Cup!

  • Comment 12, posted at 24.09.12 19:19:34 by neilster Reply

  • @TRF_Ezequiel (Comment 11) : @neilster (Comment 12) : JC offers nothing in general play.

    And I can’t see him fitting in with the Sharks environment, I would hate to have to support him.

  • Comment 13, posted at 24.09.12 19:27:21 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • Okay, who would be your pick then? Our youngsters are not an option. We need experience.

    JvR is a NO
    Cilliers is a NO

    Maybe bring back Carstens?

  • Comment 14, posted at 24.09.12 19:44:53 by TRF_Ezequiel Reply

  • @TRF_Ezequiel (Comment 14) : The youngsters have been fine up to now though, we pushed a good front 5 off the park vs WP last week. I think it may have been case of being caught napping on the scrum front in the week’s preparation leading up to Sat…

  • Comment 15, posted at 24.09.12 20:03:01 by neilster Reply

  • It is always frustrating to see our team lose but still we played well which is what we ask for. What i would like is to see our lineout attacking opposition ball instead of waiting to drive & our guys sitting tighter in the scrum to pack as a unit.

  • Comment 16, posted at 24.09.12 20:19:54 by Dunx Reply

  • I was disappointed with Jacques Botes, maybe a little unfairly. That cross kick try that was disallowed – where he was deemed to be ahead of the kick — was that a planned move — why would he be ahead.Gave away a penalty not retiring from up and under that Jantjies slotted. That’s a 10 point swing. Maybe too harsh.

  • Comment 17, posted at 25.09.12 09:01:39 by Ernie Reply


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