A Chance for De Jongh?

Written by Maria Delport (Letgo)

Posted in :Admin, Springboks on 13 Nov 2012 at 09:14
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If reports are to be believed Pat Lambie will be backed at least one more time during this end of year tour and Juan de Jongh might just get his first, long awaited and well deserved, start under Heyneke Meyer. Good news indeed, if it is true.

Meyer has been reported to say that he was pleased with Pat Lambie in only his second start in the Sprinbok flyhalf jersey. Although Meyer feels Lambie can improve on his performance, especially given the high standards the player himself and the coaching staff sets for him, he says that given the conditions and the fact that Lambie didn’t get much possession in the first half, that you couldn’t expect much more from the player. Meyer was also pleased to see that Lambie did show a few good touches and wants to give Lambie some confidence moving forward saying: “I’ll probably stick with him”.

We’ll have to wait and see what the Springbok coach does, but my opinion is that it would be good to give the young player a few starts to build his confidence. One might say that Elton Jantjies can feel unlucky to find himself in the cold again, which I agree with to an extent, but I really can’t see what good it would do to give each player only one game and no chance to settle into his position and therefore Iโ€™m of the opinion that Meyer should stick with his choice, even though it might be unfair to Jantjies who is also likely to be elevated to the bench for the test match against Scotland and could still get a few minutes of the bench.

Further reports indicates that Jean de Villiers might be rested for the test against the Scots and although Heyneke Meyer has voiced his concerns about Juan de Jongh’s size in the past, it seems the player may have just done enough to get his chance over the weekend. Meyer indicated that the playerโ€™s consistent good form has become hard to ignore and says that although he will still talk to some of the senior players about it, the chances are good that de Jong will get a chance at 13 this week, with the possibility of Jaco Taute moving into the inside centre position if de Villiers is to be rested. It is still very unclear what Meyer will do here though, as he also mentioned that Taute might get a run at 15 in Zane Kirschner’s place.

Jean de Villiers certainly needs a break and a young centre combination of Tuate and de Jongh, though quite risky, does sound pretty exciting. If Meyer wants to rest de Villiers he could also look to a few other options as centre combinations, with Juan de Jongh more than capable of switching to inside centre, the inform Lionel Mapoe could be given a go at 13, or Tuate could be retained in this position. Some people has called for Raymond Rhule at 13 (although I personally would not go for that at this stage) and JP Pietersen has ย had a stint at 13 in this year’s Super Rugby Campaign and is also a viable option in this position. This shift will also open up a spot on the wing for either Mvovo or Rhule to have a run, which could bring some much needed excitement to the Bok backline.

All good options in my opinion, but Meyer should resist to make too many changes and underestimate the Scots and rather, as much as he possibly could, stick with the team as it was and find some continuity in these last two games. Traditionally EOYT has been seen as a platform to test young players, but Meyer already has a bunch of young and/or inexperienced players in the side (Cilliers, Etzebeth, Kruger, Coetzee, Taute, Lambie, de Jongh and even Vermeulen, Louw, Heinke) and he would do a disservice to these players if he chopped and changed the team to much for the last two games.


  • Finally!

  • Comment 1, posted at 13.11.12 09:38:10 by Ben Reply
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  • When will Jantjies ever get a start?

  • Comment 2, posted at 13.11.12 09:41:19 by Ludz Reply

  • “probably” stick with him = can’t expire much confidence in the player

  • Comment 3, posted at 13.11.12 09:48:55 by Bokhoring Reply
  • My team for Saturday
    1. Heinke
    2. Strauss
    3. Jannie
    4. Etsebeth
    5. Kruger
    6. Louw
    7. Coetzee
    8. Vermeulen
    9. Pienaar
    10. Lambie
    11. Hougaard
    12. De Jongh
    13. Mapoe
    14. JP
    15. Taute

    16. Brits
    17. Steenkamp
    18. Cilliers
    19. Franco
    20. Alberts
    21. Jantjies
    22. Mvovo
    23. Rhule

  • Comment 4, posted at 13.11.12 09:51:28 by Mutley Reply
  • HM is playing mind games with the Scotts. Heaven knows why? The best option for him would have been to have a “real” tour with midweek games. Then he could have played all these options out.

  • Comment 5, posted at 13.11.12 10:08:06 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

  • @Mutley (Comment 4) : I’d also like to see Mapoe at 13, although all his natural ability to run in between players and passing the ball will slowly be coached out of him from next year on – dumb choice to join the bulls ๐Ÿ™„

    Our future at 13?….let’s hope Jordaan turns into something really special because he’s about as exciting as we currently have in SA.

    But for this tour though, Both de Jongh and Mapoe inspires far more confidence than Taute.

  • Comment 6, posted at 13.11.12 10:48:44 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • if he rest jdv it should sommer be permanent, who will be cappy though?

  • Comment 7, posted at 13.11.12 12:26:00 by MJ Reply

  • @MJ (Comment 7) : only person I can think of that might be ok is pienaar, he’s got enough experience and knows the set up and the NH. other one maybe lambie but he is to new in the setup and a bit young but definately future potential. only ones in the forwards are strauss and louw but that is temporary too.

  • Comment 8, posted at 13.11.12 12:28:51 by MJ Reply

  • Most likely if De Villiers is rested Strauss or Pienaar will captain the side seeing as Strauss is currently the vice captain

  • Comment 9, posted at 13.11.12 13:12:09 by Mutley Reply
  • De Jongh was average the whole season. He has 1 good game in CC final and suddenly he is the best thing ever. Aaai. . . this is SA rugby

  • Comment 10, posted at 13.11.12 13:54:23 by Castle Reply

  • @Castle (Comment 10) : which outside centre was consistently better than him?

  • Comment 11, posted at 13.11.12 14:29:35 by Ludz Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 11) : this is SharksWorld, DUH!!!! Paul Jordaan ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 12, posted at 13.11.12 14:46:52 by Megatron Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 11) : @Megatron (Comment 12) : Jordaan ain’t quite there yet, but Mapoe was definitely the stand out 13 this year.

    (I would hate to see the Springbok jersey defiled by those oh so lame dance moves of de Jongh….although we wouldn’t get the ball so that shouldn’t be a problem ๐Ÿ˜ˆ )

  • Comment 13, posted at 13.11.12 15:02:07 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • Steven’s new car

  • Comment 14, posted at 13.11.12 15:26:35 by Megatron Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 13) : funny you mention Mapoe, how uncanny is it that the 1st choice 13 at the Lions is nowhere near the Bok match 22 but the fullback who played there as last ditch resort because of injuries has 3 Tests in the same position?

  • Comment 15, posted at 13.11.12 16:37:20 by Megatron Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 15) : probably a little bit worse than having the Bulls’ first choice scrumhalf playing wing in place of the specialist wing warming the bench game in and game out.

    Ja what can we say, just another of the many problems plaguing our beloved national team ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

    The hole the Boks are in is similar to that of the Lions, where the rot runs so deep you’d have to sweep it clean starting at the top, the coach is just one of the symptoms of this rot.

    I’d still rather see Cheeky Watson at the head of SARU, mediocrity will not be tolerated. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

  • Comment 16, posted at 13.11.12 18:05:24 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • And still players gets played out of position. meyer pick 15 at 13, 9 at 11 and now they suggest a 13 must play 12 for JDV to rest, why?! only two games left this year then they can all rest.

  • Comment 17, posted at 13.11.12 21:04:58 by JD Reply
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  • Of course Lambie needs another run…i only remember him getting the ball twice in an attacking situation and both times funny enough it was JDV that stuffed up the move!
    I dont think Taute offers much going forward at 13 but is good on defense mostly. I think DeJong needs a run at 13. Id also play Mapoe over a very average Hougaard.

  • Comment 18, posted at 14.11.12 12:00:02 by SheldonK Reply


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