North vs South

Written by Pierre McLeod (pierre_mackie)

Posted in :Original Content, Reader Submissions on 13 Nov 2012 at 09:11
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This past weekend we saw some interesting results from the EOYT of the Southern Hemisphere sides visiting their Northern rivals.

The Pumas were up for the challenge against Wales, and though finishing last in the Rugby Championship they managed to beat 6 Nations Champions Wales 26-12.

Fiji went down to England 12-54, Italy toppled Tonga 28-23, France smashed the Wallabies 33-6 and Scotland had the impossible task of facing New Zealand first up.

Australia being the only team to come close in giving New Zealand a wobble this year drawing 18 all in their last game, New Zealand came out continuing their dominance of world rugby beating the Scots 51-22.

In the game closer to home the Springboks faced Ireland. Since 1906 the Boks have won 16 out of 21 tests with one resulting in a draw..

Leading up to the test Meyer’s selection came under fire, opting to go with Lambie at 10 and Steyn on the bench leaving Jantjies out of the squad, Taute at 13 and De Jongh on the bench, Hougaard starting on the wing and Mvovo on the bench and Brits on the bench and Chilliboy left out the 23 all together.

Meyers responds to this was that he selected players that can come off the bench and make an impact, but never used any of these players.

Knowing what he’s got in Steyn it could have been a good option to leave him out the squad and include Jantjies on the bench, if Lambie and Jantjies are the future of Springbok rugby when will they get the opportunity to show they more then capable of making the no10 jersey their own.

Taute being a good defender but not really adding any attacking option to the backline, Meyer could have added De Jongh, a player thats got the ability to cut through a backline with his angle running, something we haven’t seen since Jacque Fourie left.

Another player thats good on defence but gets very little opportunity to show his attacking game is Hougaard, but probably best suited to come off the bench as a scrummie and make an impact, rather give a guy like Mvovo a chance and lets see if he will be a suitable replacement for Habana.

Then there is the selection of Brits, probably one of the better hookers in SA 4years ago only getting his shot now, is he only a short term solution for the injured Bismark or can he be in the Bok set up till next WC, having the ability to play as an extra loose forward and run like a center in the mid field. What happens to guys like Strauss, Liebenberg, Chilliboy and Burden all in the Bok set up this year.

It was a bit disappointing to see that the Boks did not dominate with their forwards and giving good ball to their backline, but rather taking every ball flat and not getting over the advantage line, something the Irish managed a couple of times.

The Boks defence kept Ireland try less with only their ill discipline keeping them in the game in the 1st half. South Africa looked like a different team in the 2nd half with De Villiers attack the gain line and two good mauls from line outs, one of them ending in the only try of the match scored by Ruan Pienaar.

Boks beating Ireland in the end by 16 points to 12 with Lambie adding 3 pen and converting Pienaar’s try, Irelands points came trough the boot of Sexton kicking 4 pen.

Fixtures for this weekend::

Wales v Samoa

Italy v NZ
Eng v Aus
Sco v Boks
Fra v Arg


  • 😈 The boks winning against a poor Irish outfit left a hollow feeling. Our rugby is stagnant and it is evidence that we have player-managers instead of coaches. Sharks play running rugby all year and go into finals with a kicking game!!?
    Meyer still plays the kicking-forwards game. Lambie was restricted from doing a lot but was able to send the ball down the line only to have a forward or Jean crash it up. I cannot recall 1 full backline movement or a proper centre movement. We need to create the space NZ do or we are dead in the water. Maybe without Jean there we might see the wingers scoring?
    Pieterson’s cut in from a loose ball created acres of space and WP took the cup with 1 simple move between the centres. Apart from that, there were no attacks from deep.
    Etsebeth’s potential dominance in the line was not ventured when… Irish lines were lining… 😕
    Meyer wants to win, but he will need to be more adventurous to be dominant in world rugby. 😈

  • Comment 1, posted at 13.11.12 09:53:59 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 1) : I agree, JdV there the wingers never see ball. WP has some really potent players out wide, and the lack allot of ball due to JdV.
    For the future of Bok rugby, JdV must go. We need a new young Captain who can take us to the next two World Cups.

  • Comment 2, posted at 13.11.12 10:04:56 by Uli Reply
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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 1) : every time the ball did go through the back line Strauss was standing outside center, maybe the Boks should do video analyses of the AB games, also taking the ball to flat, Irish were taking it from deep and managed to get over advantage line

  • Comment 3, posted at 13.11.12 10:13:04 by pierre_mackie Reply
  • I think Houghaard is utter garbage on defense. Even a th prop will be able to side step him.

    Taute at 13, I still don’t know why – he’s average on defense (and scared when they run at him at pace).

    I’ll stick to my viewpoint, play Houghaard at 9 and allow Lambie to run the show.

    We can’t have Pienaar and Lambie in the same backline, because Pienaar will merely stifle’s Lambie’s natural ability to run the game.

  • Comment 4, posted at 13.11.12 10:40:44 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 4) : That is what I thought will happen from the start, Lambie needs a McLeod type scrum half, to give him natural flow ball, a dictating scrummy wont be good for him. Houghaard is only good for impact play, he is too slow of the base to make vital kicks, when its needed.
    I think HM is trying to find another JP Nell in Taute tbh..

  • Comment 5, posted at 13.11.12 10:55:24 by Uli Reply
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  • Other backline attacking frustrations begin and end at inside centre.

  • Comment 6, posted at 13.11.12 11:27:12 by VinChainSaw Reply
  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 6) : Yeah our backline is so 1-dimensional it’s frightening.

    Not a single move, other than 11 running on the inside shoulder of either the scrummie or fh to receive the pop pass. Everybody can see it coming a mile away.

  • Comment 7, posted at 13.11.12 11:31:41 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @Uli (Comment 5) : Let’s be honest, Ruan is just not cutting the mustard at scrummie. We have better options and one of them is currently playing at wing. Let’s stop this kazi of playing players out of position and actually play them where they play best and get some decent ball to our pivot. Hougi at 9,I say, Paddy at 10, with JdJ and JdV at centre, Lwazi and JP on the wings and Taute at fullback… We’d then have a backline that would actually be capable of firing, rather than producing the wet farts we’ve been getting all year. 😎

  • Comment 8, posted at 13.11.12 17:08:40 by Shaz Reply
  • @Shaz (Comment 8) :

    Sheesh boet, now Hougie really doesnt strike me as test quality.

    I dont need a game breaker at scrummie – I need a player with a crisp pass and a keen eye.

    Neither Pienaar nor Hougie does it for me. I want a Neil de Kock sort of scrummie where hye provides service to his flyhalf.

  • Comment 9, posted at 13.11.12 21:10:32 by VinChainSaw Reply
  • @Shaz (Comment 8) :

    I’m a bit mystified that you think the problem is with Pienaar and not de Villiers.

  • Comment 10, posted at 13.11.12 21:11:03 by VinChainSaw Reply
  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 9) : WP started playing better rugby when they had to use Groom as opposed to Duvenhage, and it made all the difference.

  • Comment 11, posted at 14.11.12 08:49:25 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @Shaz (Comment 8) : I don’t agree, Hougard did nothing right to justify a place in the starting line up when he had the chance at 9. Yes I agree 100% that players must stop being played out of position yes. JvV at center the wings never see any ball 🙁 Taute at fullback sounds good to me 🙂

  • Comment 12, posted at 14.11.12 09:22:04 by Uli Reply
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