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Steenkamp could start against Scotland

Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 14 Nov 2012 at 10:00
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According to reports doing the rounds this morning, Gurthrö Steenkamp is favourite to wear the number 1 jersey against Scotland this weekend, following the withdrawal of Tendai Mtawarira from the squad this week.

Die Burger reports that Steenkamp has impressed during training so far this week, after not being considered for the test against Ireland due to an injury. Mtawarira was withdrawn hours before the test and was replaced by CJ van der Linde.

Despite van der Linde coming through the test unscathed, the form of Steenkamp could mean he jumps van der Linde in the pecking order and starting the Scotland test. Heinke van der Merwe came onto the bench for last week’s match and with the impact he made off the bench, will be hoping to retain his place in the match 23.

CJ van der Linde is a versatile prop and could still be utilised on the tighthead side, where coach Heyneke Meyer has Jannie du Plessis and Pat Cilliers to choose from, and has to decide how he wants to use his six props who include Frans Malherbe, who was called upon to replace Mtawarira.

Other news filtering through from the team in Scotland is that Jean de Villiers might be rested for this match against Scotland, with Juan de Jongh finally getting a shot in midfield and Adriaan Strauss taking over the captaincy. This is yet to be confirmed though, and we will wait for the team announcement.


  • Guthro probably the only other (Beast being the obvious one) loose-head that contributes to general play so that is probably a no brainer.

    Coetsee in for Alberts please…….Houghaard at 9 with very limited decision making powers……..give Lambie carte blanche…….de Jongh in at 13……..Taute in at 15…….Mvovo to take his rightful place on the wing

    And for Christmas I want Campo as the Bok backline coach and somebody like Spencer as skills coach, and an actual game plan which includes all 15 players on the park.

    ……and they lived happily ever after :mrgreen:

  • Comment 1, posted at 14.11.12 10:46:00 by FireTheLooser Reply
  • Is it only me, or are we rather limited in loose forward options:


    Surely that is not right?

  • Comment 2, posted at 14.11.12 10:57:36 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 1) : who would be your 12 in that backline if they rest JDV?

  • Comment 3, posted at 14.11.12 11:05:13 by MJ Reply

  • @MJ (Comment 3) : They can’t afford to rest average Jean, they haven’t brought a specialist 12 on tour.

    (not that it has ever stopped HM, he’ll probably miss appropriate de Jongh as another one of his stop gap conversions and beat him into a 12 🙄 )

  • Comment 4, posted at 14.11.12 11:17:37 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 1) : Drop Ruan Pienaar at your peril. We would have lost to Ireland without him in my opinion.

    Hougaard is struggling for form at the moment (at both wing and scrummie). I’d use him from the bench if I were Meyer.

  • Comment 5, posted at 14.11.12 11:22:57 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 4) :

    Either that or shift Pat across to make room for Morne Steyn..

    Its sad but true that Meyer is not wasting time finding proper replacements for players that he is waiting to return from injury, like Frans Steyn, Bismarck and Pierre Spies..

  • Comment 6, posted at 14.11.12 11:24:03 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 5) : Remember Houghaard played scrummie with Steyn at 10, both are pawns.

    Houghaard at 9 under strict instruction to give ball to Lambie

    Have Lambie decide where the ball goes, whether it’s an inside pass to the forwards, tactical kick, pass to inside center, skip pass or scissor move. Lambie is the only player in this team able to have that many options and still end up taking the right one.

    Sadly Pienaar at 9 runs the game (and it’s rather bland), then we might as well have Steyn at 10 and like Richard suggests have Lambie at 12.

  • Comment 7, posted at 14.11.12 11:39:08 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 7) : That’s the part I’m confused about. We’ve seen that whether Hougaard or Pienaar is at 9, the gameplan remains the same. So why blame Pienaar for running a bland game? Hougaard would be instructed to do the exact same thing but he’d do so much less efficiently (with a lot of his box-kicks probably going nowhere or being charged down).

    Point I’m trying to make is that I’m sure Pienaar could provide Lambie with just as quick ball as Hougaard could if so instructed. It doesn’t then make sense then to drop an in form scrummie for an out of form scrummie when it’s actually the gameplan you want changed.

  • Comment 8, posted at 14.11.12 11:47:45 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 8) : Sadly that’s the conundrum, how much of the blandness is the player’s own fault and how much is the game plan.

    Personally I think Houghaard is much faster than Pienaar and should be able to give Lambie much cleaner and faster ball. That is my personal perception though.

    I’d prefer a tool at 9 able to just give crisp fast service to Lambie and have Lambie, and only Lambie run the game.

    The game-plan will however have to be completely overhauled for this combo to be effective. Let’s hope the Sharks will give us a taste of this type of setup next year.

    With Pienaar there we are still using our 9 as the pivot, same as we did with FdP and Joost. Now we have a fh able to run the show and we still persist with playing around our 9.

  • Comment 9, posted at 14.11.12 11:55:49 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 9) : The only way Hougaard is quicker that Pienaar is in a foot race.
    Hougaard’s pass is pedestrian at best and slows the whole backline down. Pienaar was quick to the base of the rucks, quick in clearing and his speed of pass is faster that Hougaard’s.

    With Hougaard at 9 we’d have lost for sure!!

  • Comment 10, posted at 14.11.12 12:15:58 by ChrisS Reply
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 9) : @ChrisS (Comment 10) : Even if Pienaar has the slower pass I’d still argue that Hougaard is clearly out of form. In Southern Hemisphere conditions I’d probably give an in-form Hougaard (next to Pat, Elton or Johan) a go ahead of Pienaar. In the Northen Hemisphere I reckon Pienaar is our best bet.

    When Morne’s playing I think I’d always prefer Pienaar on his inside.

  • Comment 11, posted at 14.11.12 12:29:38 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 11) : @ChrisS (Comment 10) : Well after next year’s SR, I’d like to see all of Reinach/Groom/van Zyl fighting for the 9 jersey.

  • Comment 12, posted at 14.11.12 12:40:07 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 2) : What is crazy to me is that Alberts is our most capped forward outside of the front row. Serious lack of experience and leadership there, although I guess it is as a result of injuries.

  • Comment 13, posted at 14.11.12 15:30:58 by Orelando_G Reply


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