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Super Sharks 2013


Written by Pierre McLeod (pierre_mackie)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 31 Dec 2012 at 10:20
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With Super Rugby 2013 around the corner lets look at some the players that will be wearing the Sharks jersey.

The Sharks will kick off their campaign against the Cheetahs who finished 4th in the South African Conference and 10th on the over all log.

Their 3rd game will be a first for the men from Durban when they will face the newly added Southern Kings in Port Elizabeth on the 9th of March. The boys from Port Elizabeth got a taste of Super Rugby when they faced the Sharks in a warn up game before the start of the 2012 season, that game ended 38-13 in favour of the Sharks.

Some might say that the Sharks had a successful year in 2012 having played in the Super Rugby and Currie Cup finals, but no trophy to show for any of the games.

There will be no doubt that the team gained some good experience and there will be a lot that they can take out of 2012 and make 2013 a success. The fact that they beat The Reds and The Stormers against all odds and away from home is testimony in itself that they are a team with character and they know how to pull together as a team if they need to.

What they probably can take from the Currie Cup final is that you cant just pitch up for a game and expect to win, maybe a bit too over confident from the Sharks but out played on the day by a team that was hungry for some silver ware.

Looking at the players available for Super Rugby the Sharks are very fortunate to have the core of guys that played in those two finals with only Frederic Michalak going back to France and Steven Sykes joining the Kings.

There will also be some new faces in the Sharks jersey, apart from the youngsters that came through the Currie Cup during 2012 there’s also two seasoned players in Butch James that thought it will be a good idea to finish his playing career where it all started, but lets hope without the bleach blond hair and then a loan from the Lions den in Franco van der Merwe.

Oh yes and then there is another old youngster returning to Kings Park namely Francois Steyn.

Lets wish the guys all the best for 2013 and have both Super Rugby and Currie Cup finals and cups in Durban.

Sharks Super Rugby Squad 2013:

Props
Dale Chadwick, Jannie du Plessis, Wiehahn Herbst, Tendai Mtawarira, Julian Redelinghuys.

Hookers
Craig Burden, Kyle Cooper, Monde Hadebe, Bismarck du Plesis (vc)

Locks
Anton Bresler, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Jandre Marias, Peet Marais, Franco van der Merwe (loan)

Loose Forwards
Willem Alberts, Jacques Botes, Marcell Coetzee, Keegan Daniel (c), Jean Deysel, Ryan Kankowski, Francios Kleinhans, Lubabalo Mtembu

Scrum Halves
Conrad Hoffmann, Charl McLeod, Cobus Reinach

Fly Halves
Butch James, Patrick Lambie

Centres
Meyer Bosman, Paul Jordaan, Wandile Mjekevu, Francois Steyn, Tim Whitehead, Heimar Williams

Wingers
Lwazi Mvovo, Odwa Ndungane, JP Pietersen, Sibusiso Sithole

Full Backs
Louis Ludik, Gouws Prinsloo, Riaan Viljoen


86 Comments

  • Some very promising young players there. Maybe short a loose-head prop? Until recently I would have also said we were short an experienced Number 5 lock – but with another season of Soup Rugby under his belt, Anton Bresler is probably one of the better line-out exponents in the country. Plus, the Hoff is back…

    Feel quite sorry for Meyer Bosman and Tim Whitehead, but I guess they’ll get their shot at some stage during the tournament and during the Currie Cup.

  • Comment 1, posted at 31.12.12 13:31:28 by MerckZ Reply
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  • And a happy new year to all at Sharksworld. May 2013 bring happiness and silverware…

  • Comment 2, posted at 31.12.12 13:50:19 by MerckZ Reply
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  • Nice to see we avoided ‘buying’ yesterdays heroes. Happy New Year to all and a succesful 2013 season for the Sharks both on and off the field.

  • Comment 3, posted at 31.12.12 16:46:22 by Caratacus Reply
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  • Chadwick? 😡

    Can’t they find any schoolboy prepared to carry tackle bags?

  • Comment 4, posted at 31.12.12 18:03:53 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @MerckZ (Comment 1) : No MAYBE about it. 🙁 😥

  • Comment 5, posted at 31.12.12 18:06:28 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Where is Alan Dell BTW?

  • Comment 6, posted at 31.12.12 18:11:32 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 6) : he’s there too as part of the extended training squad. He might play Super Rugby this year, but there are a few concerns over his size.

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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : And there’s no concern over the size of the back-up loosehead? Maybe he could give some of his “bulk” to Dell. 😛

  • Comment 8, posted at 01.01.13 15:09:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Lets give Chadwick another chance and see how he develops this year…

    I have no idea who the other lock will be 😕

  • Comment 9, posted at 01.01.13 15:48:42 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 9) : Bresler and van der merwe.

  • Comment 10, posted at 01.01.13 18:02:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • Happy new year to all. Any idea when Bismack will play again?

  • Comment 11, posted at 01.01.13 18:22:57 by JD Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 9) : 😯
    The guy didn’t manage at CC. How is he gonna manage at SR?

  • Comment 12, posted at 01.01.13 18:36:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Sharks have been in this situation before, an incredible squad at the start of the season but no reward at the end 🙁

    Probably the best chance for SR trophy, if they can’t do it with this squad they never will

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  • @pierre_mackie (Comment 13) : 🙄

  • Comment 14, posted at 02.01.13 09:15:20 by Ben Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) : What about Jan Andre? He is a really underrated player ,he’s probably one of the better line-out contenders at the Sharks and he is a hard hitter .

    @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) : Never been the biggest of fans ,I have to admit ,but we all know props mature with age. He hasn’t got the physicality that Beast has so he will probably need some time to better his technique.

  • Comment 15, posted at 02.01.13 09:25:33 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 15) : I got back to RSA 3 weeks ago and caught up on all my Sharks magazines for the year. I wasn’t surprised to see he didn’t feature anywhere in any of them.

    IMO he is only there because half decent LHs are scarce, once we find one Chadwick will slowly drift into obscurity.

  • Comment 16, posted at 02.01.13 11:59:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I’m surprised to see that Conrad “André Pretorius” Hoffman is still around…

  • Comment 17, posted at 02.01.13 13:12:39 by Culling Song Reply
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  • I’m a huge fan of both Marais brothers too… Sharks have plenty of good lock options.

  • Comment 18, posted at 02.01.13 13:48:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 17) : Will get limited game time IMO. Reinach and McLeod to fight it out for the #1 ranking.

  • Comment 19, posted at 02.01.13 13:57:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 19) : Limited game time is a given, seeing as based on past history he’s likely to tear a hamstring while putting in his gum guard. You have to feel for the guy, injuries have really prevented him from staking any sort of claim for himself (well, injuries and his CC final 2011 performance), and now he has probably missed his window

  • Comment 20, posted at 02.01.13 14:05:41 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Pretty decent squad but I agree with Andre about Chadwick. So will we be having 8 players on the bench this year?

  • Comment 21, posted at 03.01.13 10:51:31 by JarsonX Reply
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  • I think we see both Brynard Stander and Allan Dell before we see Mtembu and Redelinghuys play for the Sharks this year. Other than that, pretty accurate squad and close to my preference.

  • Comment 22, posted at 03.01.13 22:03:32 by TRF_Ezequiel Reply

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  • @TRF_Ezequiel (Comment 22) :
    Stander is a good prospect, but Mtembu already has some CC and S15 experience. I think Stander would be better off playing a decent amount of rugby in the VC rather than a bench appearance here and there.

  • Comment 23, posted at 03.01.13 22:24:28 by Here be dragons Reply

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  • A decent looking squad. I know we have lots of loosies but would love to see Stander get some game time to see what he can do at this level. Props look a bit thin Redlinghuys had a poor CC and is Beast over his heart condition? Not convinced Dell ready for the big time yet either, yes he had a good 5 min in the CC, but he also could not make the starting 15 in under 21 and lets not forget his lost possession cost them a place in the final. It begs the question why did they let Schonert go?

  • Comment 24, posted at 04.01.13 09:41:30 by snakeslayer Reply

     
  • Hope Plum is doing a lot of line-out work with the team pre-season. To me that is the biggest issue for the Sharks and has really let us down in a couple of games, e.g. CC final

  • Comment 25, posted at 04.01.13 12:18:57 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @snakeslayer (Comment 24) : dude, you still on that Dell hating trip, why didn’t they kick the ball out in their own 22, yes Dell lost possession to Katzen, but ball should’ve been kicked out in the 1st place, you couldn’t possibly place the blame solely on his shoulders for that loss. Schonert?? good age group player, but am afraid that’s the ceiling to his potential, could do well at a smaller union

    That said the only reason I can possibly think of is the size concern, otherwise he offers so much more than Chadwick

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.01.13 20:55:52 by Ludz Reply

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  • @ludz Shame mate your love for Dell is really quite sweet. Fact is he lost possession to a flank and that ultimately cost them the game. I dont see your logic in kicking the ball out as they had to wind down the clock. What concerns me if that happens at under 21 level just imagine what will happen higer up. Contrary to your belief I do not hate him – I have no reason to do so. My opinion is that he was decent at school boy level but that is where it ended. I just dont understand all the hype around him. As for Schonert being a good age group player we will have to see about that. I know where my money is going to be should he scrum down against your mate. You need to be a bit objective and not blindly loyal.

  • Comment 27, posted at 05.01.13 23:48:28 by snakeslayer Reply

     
  • @snakeslayer (Comment 27) : fine mate, your opinion, but guess who’s in the Sharks extended squad and guess who’s gonna play for Shimlas in the Varsity Cup. Ally’s my man, sure, but believe me I am very objective when it comes to rugby. Telling you now only thing standing between Allan and SR is his size, do you remember me saying at any point last year saying Ally should start ahead of Mienie? No because Mienie was doing well, I think Schonert is a good scrummager, he’s just lazy around the field and a bit slow, Sharks are as good as they come at developing props, surely them letting Schonert go should tell you something. Absolutely love it when my Queen’s boys do well, but believe me when analysing their game, I’m always objective.

    I predicted earlier around July last year when Allan started a game with Maks van Dyk against WP for u21s that Allan would make his senior debut before all the other junior props he played with

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.01.13 09:51:49 by Ludz Reply

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  • he’s just lazy around the field and a bit slow Sounds more like you are refering to Chadwick. 🙂

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.01.13 10:34:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : And then I’m not even going to mention his lack of pace. 😛

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.01.13 10:36:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : If am honest, I’d say they are pretty much the same

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.01.13 11:26:20 by Ludz Reply

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  • If side-swipe at Shimlas is meant to be demeaning..well so be it Ludz…fact is Cheetahs are not to shabby at churning out some fine props and the like..

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  • @kagun (Comment 32) : I think it was more a case of “Varsity Cup” being the key part to the phrase as opposed to “Shimlas” being the key part.

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.01.13 11:59:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • ok …so not a fan of Schonert either..
    well I wish him luck…Matfield was also not rated by Bulls intially and went on to great things..so we shall have to wait and see

  • Comment 34, posted at 06.01.13 12:07:23 by kagun Reply

     
  • Some people have short memories. Chadwick played the whole super 15 – and more than held his own as well as the CC for the past 2 years. He may have had a bad game here and there (every does)but on the whole he did nothing. Ironically he got dropped for both final for the worlds worst scrummager and we lost those games?? I think there is a bit to much Kamp Staaldraad mentality at the Sharks

  • Comment 35, posted at 06.01.13 12:13:26 by snakeslayer Reply

     
  • He may have had a bad game here and there (every does)but on the whole he did nothing

    You said it!!!! He did nothing all season other then run up and rest his hand on the rucks to up his ruck attendance figures.

  • Comment 36, posted at 06.01.13 14:31:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @kagun (Comment 32) : @snakeslayer (Comment 35) : don’t get me wrong, I thought Schonert was really good for Sharks u19, don’t really remember him in school, did well initially for the u21s while Allan and Maks were u19, but as soon as they came up to u21, Nic fell off the pace last year, he held his own, but wasn’t as good as 2011 for u21s. I hope he does well in FS, nothing against the lad. Fact remains Allan Dell is a better prospect than Nicholas Schonert

    Snake it takes quite a man to see any good in Chadders, Chadders can scrum and that’s all you’ll get from him. Cannot believe you think it all ended at schoolboy level for Allan, mind you he was Sharks u19 player of the year in 2011, rewarded with a senior Sharks CC cap in 2012 and now is part of the extended SR squad in 2013, you have to be joking about the schoolboy level part

  • Comment 37, posted at 06.01.13 14:57:58 by Ludz Reply

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  • @ludz…..so lucky for Schonert thats your opinion…..wonder how he was called over to join the Super 15 in Aus last year if he is so crap….give credit were credit is due..research his school boy creds..not just a fly by night..We must rememeber Dell is a loosehead and Schonert a tighthead so to rip one to shreds does not seem objective…

  • Comment 38, posted at 06.01.13 16:17:47 by kagun Reply

     
  • @Ludz (Comment 37) : Chadders can scrum and that’s all you’ll get from him: so his tackling statistics mean nothing to you? Calling Chadwick one dimensional shows how misinformed you are, the Beast came back from the Rugby Championship and made absolutely no difference. Please get your facts completely correct before you point the finger of blame at anyone 🙂

  • Comment 39, posted at 06.01.13 17:24:41 by GreenSocks Reply

     
  • @GreenSocks (Comment 39) : oh spare me, the was 1 game where he was very good on the tackle stats, apart from that he was still much the same “useful” Chadders, scrum and be lazy around the field

    @kagun (Comment 38) : you getting me all wrong here, never once did I say he was crap, 2 Craven Weeks at loosehead and tighthead, I’ll take nothing away from him, Allan is a tighthead, 1st time he played loosehead in his life was for Sharks u19, you should also find out a bit more about Allan’s accomplishments as a schoolboy. Border captain in u16, in his u17 year at Craven Week and his u18 year he played SA Schools. I’ll say it again, if I had to let go of 1 of the 4 props myself, Schonert probably would’ve my choice

  • Comment 40, posted at 06.01.13 17:52:20 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 40) : 1 game? You’re extremely mistaken, he was 13th overall best tackler in the tournament before being replaced by the Beast, and since he played 10 FULL Super Rugby matches without a rest I think that’s very good.

    Obviously he’s a lazy player according to your opinions but not according to the statisticians 🙂

  • Comment 41, posted at 06.01.13 18:02:18 by GreenSocks Reply

     
  • @Ludz (Comment 40) : Also you seem to like bashing the Sharks looseheads, maybe you should call Plumtree and ask for a shot? 😉

  • Comment 42, posted at 06.01.13 18:09:54 by GreenSocks Reply

     
  • @GreenSocks (Comment 42) : I like Mienie and Dell at loosehead, not Chadders that’s all. I’ll give Plummy a ring

  • Comment 43, posted at 06.01.13 18:15:55 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 43) : I’ll be following your long and successful career with utmost interest 🙂

  • Comment 44, posted at 06.01.13 18:18:51 by GreenSocks Reply

     
  • @GreenSocks (Comment 39) : Dude have you seen how Chadwick attends a ruck or does anything else in open play? He is pathetic. All he does is lean forward and let his gut pull him forward. he is afraid of being tackled and goes to ground before being tackled almost EVERY time.

  • Comment 45, posted at 06.01.13 18:44:44 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @GreenSocks (Comment 41) : Yet look at the difference in results when Beast came back?

    In the 1st 9 games we won 4/9 (44%) games. After that we won 8/10 (80%) games (6/7 (85%) if you only look at the regular season.) I wonder if Chadwick being benched in the latter half of the season had any impact. Sure as hell seems like it to me.

  • Comment 46, posted at 06.01.13 18:57:22 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @GreenSocks (Comment 41) : he was 13th overall best tackler in the tournament before being replaced by the Beast Do you have somewhere where we can check that? I must have missed that. In my season long complaints about Chadwick, nobody ever mentioned that to me?

  • Comment 47, posted at 06.01.13 19:04:30 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Think the problem is Sharks only quality props is Beast and Jannie the rest is not up to super rugby level. Same goes for hooker with Bissy, Sharks will miss him in super 15.

  • Comment 48, posted at 06.01.13 21:33:03 by JD Reply
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  • @ludz….youre proud of your boy..so be it.Schonert played with the Sharks so to speak from the age of sixteen…most of his rugby played at loosehead…In New Zealand at Iranz he switched to tighthead..just as you are aware of Alans accomplishments..so has Nick achieved..Too suggest his move to FS is how the Sharks rate him is a little rough.You can only hope that Alan does make the cut after as you so aptly put it his “age group rugby” comes to an end..

  • Comment 49, posted at 06.01.13 22:06:05 by kagun Reply

     
  • @kagun (Comment 49) : my apologies if I sound a little rough on Nic and may I assure you I don’t criticise him to make Allan look that much better. I do hope Allan does well. I think him being changed to a tighthead was definitely the right move, don’t think he has the workrate to be a top class loosehead, plus his top class scrummaging is better utilised as the anchor of the scrum at tighthead. I hope the big guy grows as a player in the Free State and hopefully goes all the way, contrary to what it may seem like, there are qualities in Schonert that I quite like. By no means am I saying Allan should’ve started at tighthead ahead of Nic for u21 nor Mienie for that matter, I though he did a solid job as an impact prop, he’s extremely mobile and is probably equivalent to an extra loosie, so he makes a big impact off the bench

  • Comment 50, posted at 07.01.13 00:19:07 by Ludz Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 45) : I thoroughly enjoy people like you, who complain week in and week out about the “lack of quality props” yet you can’t back a young player. This is a major problem among the Sharks supporters, no wonder so many talented players decide to leave 🙂

  • Comment 51, posted at 07.01.13 08:30:10 by GreenSocks Reply

     
  • @GreenSocks (Comment 51) : Back a young player? Hold on, I thought you were waxing lyrical about how good he is. Is he good or is he someone who needs to be backed so that he can develop? I’m confused now.

    Oh and my 5yr old daughter usually ignores the questions I ask and goes off on a different tangent when she doesn’t have suitable answers to my questions. (Just something I thought I’d mention as a matter of interest)

  • Comment 52, posted at 07.01.13 09:09:21 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @GreenSocks (Comment 39) : I still laugh at this comment when I read it. 🙂

    You say Beast came back and made no difference, and then tell Ludz to get his facts straight yet the figures in Comment 46 indicate that our win loss ratio as near as damnit doubled when Beast returned. I think YOUR “facts” are very skewed in favour of your friend.

  • Comment 53, posted at 07.01.13 09:15:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 53) : Stop being so negative and grumpy ! What has happened to you? 😆

    Chadwick is showing signs of improvement . Really think Allan Dell is a good option at prop ,the thing is he may be smaller than Cooper, but lets see what happens

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  • @GreenSocks (Comment 41) : he played 10 FULL Super Rugby matches without a rest

    Ah but you see he didn’t.
    He played 9 games of which 8 were FULL games and then had a nice long rest before playing in his 10th in Rnd 18 and that wasn’t a full match either.

    The thing with quoting numbers is that there are stats available to prove whether the numbers are made up or true.

  • Comment 55, posted at 07.01.13 09:21:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @GreenSocks (Comment 51) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 53) : Chadwick has the work rate of a tight head prop and the scrumming technique of a converted hooker.

    I can’t see him ever playing for the Springboks, and thus he’s not good enough for the Sharks.

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  • @Talent (Comment 54) : 🙂

    Someone telling me Chadwick is worthy of a spot in our SR squad happened. 🙁

    What’s the bet his paunch is bigger than ever this season. 🙂

  • Comment 57, posted at 07.01.13 09:24:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 56) : I would disagree on the scrumming, he isn’t bad at all .His biggest problem is inconsistency ,he sometimes has decent games and then other times he has awful games. He may get through alot of tackles but they aren’t hard to make tackles ,in other words they are around the fringes of the breakdown -he is probably worse than Bosman with 1v1 tackling.

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 56) : I think you are the 1st person EVER to mention Chumlee and Springboks in the same sentence.

    @GreenSocks (Comment 51) : I’m backing Dell to hand Chumlee his farewell card this season.

  • Comment 59, posted at 07.01.13 09:27:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 57) : I would be concerned if he were starting .That’s why I’m glad we are not doing heavy prematch games

  • Comment 60, posted at 07.01.13 09:29:15 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 58) : And his inconsistent scrumming kinda reminds us of?…….Barney 😆

    Hence the converted hooker analogy. 😉

  • Comment 61, posted at 07.01.13 09:30:50 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 61) : 😐 🙁 well he’s one of our own, here from Durban. Any way give him a chance ,lets see what he can do this year .

  • Comment 62, posted at 07.01.13 09:34:38 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 62) : I’m going to take a little flak for this but that is his problem. Having a soft childhood, look at Etsebeth he sure didn’t have the DHS or WBHS comforts growing up.

    Couple that with our general Dbn apathy and you have a recipe for disaster.

  • Comment 63, posted at 07.01.13 09:50:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 62) : Well I’m originally from pre-taw-re-ya, so I can give him all the grief I want :mrgreen:

  • Comment 64, posted at 07.01.13 10:02:53 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 63) : How would you know anything of his childhood unless you knew the guy personally ?Or for that matter the childhoods of the many at those schools?

    What you are implying is nonsense. Schools like WBHS, College, Glenwood, DHS, MHS ,Hillton & Kearsney produce more character and tenacity than your run of the mill schools, their bread and butter is pride and selflessness. Its like chalk and cheese-and one only needs to look at Craig Burden as the perfect example.

  • Comment 65, posted at 07.01.13 10:15:34 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 65) : I don’t doubt that these schools do, but I can tell you now that 9 out of 10 times some farmboy from the platteland WILL be much harder and more tenacious than a boy who grew up in the burbs with all the modcons.

    It’s not about which school they went to so much as where they grow up, is it a coincidence that the OFS offer up so many good props and that the cushy suburbs around RSA don’t?

    As an example look at Alistair Hargeaves, great player but just not hard enough with very little “mongrel” had he grown up out of the burbs it would have been a different story IMO.

    Chadwick was born in Westville, there are very few people who don’t live a nice comfortable lifestyle. And that comfortable lifestyle DOES make for a softer body and character.

  • Comment 66, posted at 07.01.13 11:45:52 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 66) : Poor generalization .Where you grow up has nothing to do with your toughness or attitude in defense, or what school you went to.

    Affies produce some of the most aggressive sportsmen in the country ,then they produced Piere Spies…

  • Comment 67, posted at 07.01.13 13:48:05 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 67) : Well we’ll have to agree to differ on that one.

    No matter where Chadwick comes from he IS soft, cudly and has a low work rate.

  • Comment 68, posted at 07.01.13 14:01:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 66) : That’s one of the most pathetic posts I’ve seen from you, and considering the amount of blatant bias you carry towards Chadwick that’s definitely something.

    I’m very curious to know where you grew up 🙂

  • Comment 69, posted at 07.01.13 14:03:24 by GreenSocks Reply

     
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 68) : I’ve never been his biggest fan ,but I see a player who may come right.

    May not be the answer or a predecessor to the Beast ,but he will do for now.

    Props are a strange bunch ,they ripen at a later stage.

  • Comment 70, posted at 07.01.13 14:18:45 by Talent Reply
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  • @GreenSocks (Comment 69) : Westville born and Boarding school for 5 high school years on the OFS.

  • Comment 71, posted at 07.01.13 14:44:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @GreenSocks (Comment 69) : Still no answers to any of my previous posts?

  • Comment 72, posted at 07.01.13 14:45:49 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 71) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 72) :

    Bored much?? 😛

  • Comment 73, posted at 07.01.13 15:22:50 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 73) : 😆

  • Comment 74, posted at 07.01.13 16:46:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 70) : don’t see chadwick ripening at any age. Sharks NEED 2 other props to help Beast and Jannie, they DO NOT HAVE that with this bunch.

  • Comment 75, posted at 07.01.13 17:50:24 by JD Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 74) :

    Then what about Bresler or BJ Botha, both DHS ?? poor generalization mate!!

    try again…

  • Comment 76, posted at 07.01.13 18:04:15 by HORSEFLY Reply

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  • @HORSEFLY (Comment 76) : Except that Bresler came from Queensburgh (via Namibia) and that is hardly a modcon cushy suburb.

    How long was BJ at DHS? I know he was at Kloof for a while and if you know anything about the Highway area schools, you’ll know that Kloof are traditionally the “ruffians”.

  • Comment 77, posted at 07.01.13 18:43:30 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @HORSEFLY (Comment 76) : Horsie, didn’t know you were a blogger on here, good to see you on the forum, am sure Sharksworld has benefitted from your in depth knowledge of DHS

  • Comment 78, posted at 07.01.13 18:45:37 by Ludz Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 77) : And had they both stayed at Kloof and Queensburgh ,neither would have been heard of again, simply because both of those school don’t instill the correct type of philosophy.

    Brad Barrit ,Butch James and Pat Lambie -Kearsney ,College and House-by your standards these guys must go to sleep with a teddy bear and blanket. Lambie is a little englishmen surfer raised in the Berea that would teach any farm boy how to tackle .

  • Comment 79, posted at 07.01.13 19:03:29 by Talent Reply
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  • anyway time ti lighten the mood

    These guys ,despite their cosy lifestyle, sure can hit hard…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYjXeyYbEVc

  • Comment 80, posted at 07.01.13 19:07:50 by Talent Reply
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  • @Ludz (Comment 78) :
    Yeah I joined a while ago, decided to watch more than comment though…
    Haha I know just as much about DHS as the next guy who’s passionate about ‘School’.
    @KSA Shark © (Comment 77) :
    Lol you make it seem as if they weren’t taught nothing at DHS and their hardness is all because of where they came from.haha

  • Comment 81, posted at 07.01.13 22:42:10 by HORSEFLY Reply

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  • @HORSEFLY (Comment 81) : Well that’s good to know, So in future when we buy a player from another province to join the Sharks academy we can then say he learnt everything he knows while at the academy?

    Oh wait a lot of us do that already. 😆

    You’re missing the point, being a physical type of person is NOT taught by a school, the school and coach will teach you some skills, but whether you are a tough guy or a softy comes from where you go after school each day and where you grow up.

  • Comment 82, posted at 08.01.13 04:42:33 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 82) : I absolutely agree, upbringing, not schooling is what makes you hard. I mean, just look at me. This one time as a kid we ran out of foie gras because the majordomo forgot to re-order. Not only did I have to endure that, I had to also give him a good thwack with my glove. Small wonder I’m hard as f*ck

  • Comment 83, posted at 08.01.13 14:36:14 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 83) : 😆 😆 😆 😆

    Is that you Dale?

  • Comment 84, posted at 08.01.13 15:03:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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