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Cheetahs v Sharks – Player Ratings


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Cheetahs, Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 25 Feb 2013 at 08:30
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The Sharks recorded an opening round victory over the Cheetahs in Bloemfontein, leading by 21 points at one stage and then letting it slip and allowing the Cheetahs back in game. Let’s have a look at the individual performances.

1.Tendai Mtawarira – Was good in the scrums, giving whoever was in front of him a lesson. Completely annihilated Coenie Oosthuizen in the second half – 8/10
2.Craig Burden – Formed part of a dominating tight five, but was not as evident in the loose as we have come to expect from him. His line-outs were good, but should improve as the season continues – 7/10
3.Jannie du Plessis – The anchor in this Sharks front row, looked in good shape and one of the better matches from one of the leaders in this Sharks side – 7/10
4.Anton Bresler – A good start for Anton, sporting another classy mullet. The lineouts worked well, but will have to make sure of every call against the Stormers – 7/10
5.Franco van der Merwe – On debut, Franco made his presence felt. Strong in the loose and again, the lineouts were a much improved effort from what we saw last year – 7/10
6.Jacques Botes – I bet he was not expecting to start many games this season, but he took his chance and had a busy game. His work at the breakdown is exceptional – 7/10
7.Marcell Coetzee – Had a good hit out and popped up in the backline for his normal barnstorming runs. Defensively, as good as always, and scored a good team try to boot – 7/10
8.Ryan Kankowski – Was good to see the Hoff back in black and white, but had a quiet game by his standards. He will get used to the pace of the game outside Japan – 7/10

9.Cobus Reinach – Classy little scrumhalf this, his clearance is speedy and he quick to the breakdown. The only thing I would say he has to work on is his kicking from the base – 7/10
10.Pat Lambie – Gave a kicking masterclass, scoring 19 points and winning the man of the match award. Took a massive step towards owning the Springbok 10 jersey – 9/10
11.Lwazi Mvovo – Scored an opportunist try, but man does he have some speed. He seems to have shrugged the ‘lazy’ tag, getting involved and looking for work – 7/10
12.Frans Steyn – Newly appointed captain had little to do with ball in hand, it seemed that he never received a pass. Defensively though, he is a machine. One has to give him credit for pulling his team together and getting the win – 8/10
13.Paul Jordaan – Another speed merchant! This kid sure has the nose for a gap. In an open game, he will be very usefull. Surprised me with his defence, it seems the Sharks have made huge strides towards defending well – 7/10
14.JP Pietersen – A rather quiet evening for JP, not really getting opportunity to run with the ball, and was not called upon a lot to take crash ball either – 6/10
15.Louis Ludik – Good game for Ludik, again, a bit quiet in terms of his usual game, but was there when Goosen or Daniller kicked long – 7/10

16.Kyle Cooper – Came on for a little cameo, but at a time when only defence was required. The scrums did not lose anything with him in the park – 7/10
17.Wiehahn Herbst – Again, solid on defence and strong in the scrums. His scrumming is getting better by the day – 7/10
18.Piet-Steph du Toit – Thought he was in for the match winning try, but an unfortunate foot out denied him. Not many lineout balls to the youngster, but was busy in the loose and on defence – 7/10
19.Jean Deysel – Took a massive hit and never looked like recovering from it. Not asked to do much at the end of the day – 6/10
20.Charl McLeod – Not used
21.Meyer Bosman – Had one big tackle to make and made it to save the Sharks. Not on for very long though – 7/10
22.Odwa Ndungane – On for Mvovo halfway through the second half, but didn’t make any sort of impact – 6/10


47 Comments

  • Pity we couldn’t build on our lead, but the Cheetahs came back strong towards the end, well done for holding on I suppose.
    Can’t afford to slip up against the Stormers this week.
    Would be interesting to see Styen v d Villiers

  • Comment 1, posted at 25.02.13 08:46:41 by pierre_mackie Reply
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  • Can’t have the Kings finish ahead of the Sharks two weeks in a row… 😉 😆

  • Comment 2, posted at 25.02.13 08:54:17 by pierre_mackie Reply
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  • and Plumtree’s rating? a lowly 1 for subbing Mvovo with Odwa for no obvious reason. that led to the Cheetahs comeback with both their second half tries coming about through poor defence and lack of speed on Odwa’s wing.

  • Comment 3, posted at 25.02.13 08:56:48 by Greg Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 3) :

    Mvovo could have had an injury, it is not like Plumtree to sub an outside back so early in the game.

    I will make sure to ask him at the press conference tomorrow..

  • Comment 4, posted at 25.02.13 09:00:59 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Unfortunately I think it was a slip from Odders that let the Cheetahs get their tails up and back in the game. He went over for the cross tackle on Frans Viljoen who was already marked by two players and being tackled and let the inside open for the backflip pass to the Cheetahs 7 who went over for the try. Maybe if he’d tackled 7 and stopped the try the game might have ended very differently. But still a man for the big occasions.

  • Comment 5, posted at 25.02.13 09:09:15 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • good game wanna see more from jordaan

  • Comment 6, posted at 25.02.13 09:11:04 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 4) : I’d be very interested in his answer! Odwa’s current ability at S15 level, or lack of it, is a seriously worrying issue to me. what about the possibility of Paul Jordaan being able to play on the wing? thoughts?

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.02.13 09:12:51 by Greg Reply

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  • Im glad I’m not the only one that thought the Sharks for some reason dropped their intensity a bit when Mvovo left the field. Maybe it was just a bit of a coincidence. But what a display from SuperPat! He totally owned Goosen!

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.02.13 09:13:55 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 7) :

    I think Jordaan will be behind three others in the pecking order at wing, namely Pietersen, Mvovo and Sithole.

    Personally though, I like Jordaan to be closer to the ball. But in the case of substituting later in the game, I’d prefer Jordaan to shift over to wing if necessary, and rather bring in Bosman, who adds an additional kicking option and we dont lose any pace out wide.

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.02.13 09:16:53 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • I would like to see that we use our backs a bit more. Fransie has the ability to get over the gain line and make offloads and a guys like Jordaan can be devistating in such a position.

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.02.13 09:22:25 by Viking Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 9) : Very similar to my own thinking. that would leave the option of including a more attacking backline option off the bench, maybe someone like Sithole or Whitehead when he’s fit again.

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.02.13 09:22:44 by Greg Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 9) : Richard, your maths has gone down the tubes boet, 😆

    Lambie scored 19 points and not 21, we had 2 tries and scored a total of 29 points, 29-10=19 lol

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.02.13 09:25:34 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Beast’s annihilation of Coenie – good to see as a Shark supporter, very worrying as a Bok supporter. Last year in the English tests Coenie before his injury looked to be a great replacement for the Doctor – now the tighthead cupboard looks as empty as ever. I wonder if Coenie is really ready to play at this stage.

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.02.13 09:29:12 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 12) :

    Apologies

  • Comment 14, posted at 25.02.13 09:29:55 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 14) : No problem boet, you better fix the article on Keo too, I see someone just mentioned it again, saying blah blah blah about Keo journo’s 😉

  • Comment 15, posted at 25.02.13 09:31:55 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Fair ratings Rich. By no means a perfect performance but I’ll take that as a first game anytime. Happy with the 4 points against a good Cheetah’s side.

  • Comment 16, posted at 25.02.13 09:40:00 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 16) :

    Thanks Pokkel..

    Might have been a little too easy on some, but it is a first game, as you mention. Four points in the bag is all that counts..

  • Comment 17, posted at 25.02.13 09:42:42 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • If we move Jordaan to wing, who plays outside center?

  • Comment 18, posted at 25.02.13 09:50:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 7) : @Richard Ferguson (Comment 4) : I think that Odwa should be used as a 15 only. He’s lost a bit of pace so i don’t feel he’s quick enough to be a wing at Super level anymore.

    Sithole is a wonderful talent and needs an opportunity and we also have Mjekevu as an option.

    @Richard Ferguson (Comment 4) : I felt that Deysel made an impact when he came on. He was wading through tackles and got us some good go-forward ball. A 7 for him would have been a more accurate rating.

  • Comment 19, posted at 25.02.13 09:51:39 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 18) :

    I think the question was for when Whitehead is fit again, as I am sure he slot in as first choice?

  • Comment 20, posted at 25.02.13 09:56:41 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 20) : Tim is definitely first choice 13!

  • Comment 21, posted at 25.02.13 09:58:48 by ChrisS Reply
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  • Lost too much structure in the second half. Nearly cost us.
    It’s one thing to loosen it up a bit to try for the bonus pointk but the boys went a bit too far. 50/50 passes was something we struggled with a few years back, please don’t get back into the same routine. I think if we’d have kept our structure the tries would have come and would have definitely been a more comfortable victory.

  • Comment 22, posted at 25.02.13 10:09:09 by Flintshark Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 20) : @ChrisS (Comment 21) : Not sure i agree that Tim is just first choice 13.

    Jordaan had a very good match on Saaturday and his speed cannot be overlooked.

    All players have bad games and Odwa had a bad few minutes on Saturday, no denying that, in the warm up matches funnily enough it was Odwa who played verfy well and Mvovo was average.

    these things happen

  • Comment 23, posted at 25.02.13 10:12:04 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 7) :

    Plumtree confirmed after the match that Mvovo had to come off with a knock..

  • Comment 24, posted at 25.02.13 10:20:18 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Also i do not agree with the ratings for Deysel and Botes, overall ratings are fair no problem, but Botes was a machine on Saturday and Deysel made quite a few good tackles and also 2 or 3 gppd charges through the Cheetah defense.

  • Comment 25, posted at 25.02.13 10:23:21 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 24) : He did come off with a knock, they showed him limping off.

  • Comment 26, posted at 25.02.13 10:24:14 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • One thing was proved on Saturday, burger King Oosthuizen is no TH, he got slaughtered by Beast.

  • Comment 27, posted at 25.02.13 10:25:46 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 24) : ah,ok, that explains it then 🙂 To be honest I don’t really buy the “he just had a bad match” story about Odwa though. he is 32 now, which is quite ancient for a wing, and has been losing pace for years. surely there has to be someone (like Sithole) worth investing in for the future? Again, Plumtree is a conservative coach and will always fall back on the ‘tried and tested’ option. All well and good, but it’s the X-factor that wins you titles!

  • Comment 28, posted at 25.02.13 10:28:15 by Greg Reply

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  • I thought Jordaan ran to lateral at times and got himself isolated. Sometimes it’s just not on to try and run around your defense. He needs to get a few more dimensions to his attack.

    That’s my only criticism of the guy. He has great potential, but I still feel Tim just understands the game better, is a more mature player. Jordaan relies to much on his own speed and skill and therefor lacks that instinct for different opportunities and options that other players (like Tim) does.

  • Comment 29, posted at 25.02.13 10:44:46 by Letgo Reply
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  • I agree with the ratings, by and large, but also think Wolla could have got a few more. Maybe I just really want him to be playing well, though, so am seeing things that aren’t really there? Who knows…

  • Comment 30, posted at 25.02.13 10:50:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 29) : He is really fast, but he often makes a lovely break for it all to come to nought due to poor option taking.

  • Comment 31, posted at 25.02.13 10:51:15 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : Nope Wolla was good, A new article on SR has Plum,tree talking about Wolla and what he did when he came on.

  • Comment 32, posted at 25.02.13 11:00:45 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I find it funny how some players can’t do anything right, whilst others can do nothing wrong in some of your eyes.

    I don’t understand how you can give Deysel flack when he provided so much go forward and solid defense. He took one big hit but for the most part it took a couple of players to bring him down. If it wasn’t for his efforts in the 79th and 80th minutes that kept the Cheetahs on the backfoot, we may very well have had an undesirable end result to the game.

    @robdylan (Comment 30) : I think you are right in how you feel but you might be falling subject to the growing bias against him.

    Guys, Kanko is more than “that guy that makes 70 meters from broken play”. He effected at least three lineout disruptions and steals on Cheetahs ball. Not to mention the he hit rucks and competed for turnovers.

  • Comment 33, posted at 25.02.13 11:15:05 by King Shark Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 33) : I agree about Deysel. He waded through tackles. One that stood out was where he bounced the first defender and then made another 2 metres with a further 2 Cheetahs hanging on him. He then laid the ball back perfectly as the Sharks pack rucked over.

    Kanko was immense. He’s added a hard edge to his game that will make him the complete eighthman and the Bok’s first choice.

  • Comment 34, posted at 25.02.13 11:35:33 by ChrisS Reply
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  • Deysel is a bit of an “inconvenient reality” for a lot of people at the moment… with all the “Bone Collector” mania after Alberts’s emergence, along with so many people desperately wanting Coetzee and du Toit to be the next big thing at 7 (Stander too in some people’s eyes), it’s like a lot of his former fans seem to want Deysel to simply no longer exist.

    Very sad.

  • Comment 35, posted at 25.02.13 12:00:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) :

    I wont go as far as saying that people want him to no longer exist.

    I think it is brilliant that the Sharks can have so many loose forwards, especially considering both Daniel and Alberts is injured. In previous seasons, this would have been a nightmare.

    I honestly did not see the big impact Deysel made, but I concede that I could have missed it in between everything else.

    My question though, where does he fit in when we have all our loosies fit? Will he ever start a game? Or is he destined to be a bench player making 20 minute impacts off the bench?

  • Comment 36, posted at 25.02.13 12:25:50 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 36) : Rich, don’t ask difficult questions 🙂

    Look, I will concede I’m not impartial here. I like Jean a lot. Hard to see him being selected ahead of Alberts, but when is Alberts ever really fit these days?

  • Comment 37, posted at 25.02.13 12:36:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 36) : so in my perfect world, it’s Alberts for 2 games, Deysel for 2 games. Rinse and repeat.

    Don’t know what that means for Coetzee, though… Perhaps Coetzee rotates with Botes at 6 and Daniel with Kanko at 8? Shit… dunno

  • Comment 38, posted at 25.02.13 12:37:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) :

    I’m glad you brought that up –

    In Alberts we have a half fit, 20 minute impact player as well. So which do you back? Who do you keep around to play just off the bench?

    We touched on this last week. It is a tricky situation, and surely this will be the season in which either one os so injured that they are dropped altogether, or both are fit and one leaves because he doesn’t get game time..

  • Comment 39, posted at 25.02.13 12:38:42 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) :

    We saw the Crusaders do something like that last year with their fornt row, not allowing any of the players to play more than three matches in a row, we will eventually have to look at something like that.

    As I see it, Kankowski is the 8, whether Daniel is fit or not. Daniel, once fit, will slot into the 6 jersey and captain the side while Coetzee plays 7.

    That leaves a problem with three class loosies in Alberts, Botes and Deysel on the bench.

    Yes, it is a long season and all will get a chance to play, but how will we ever figure out which three is the first choice, or is the working combination?

  • Comment 40, posted at 25.02.13 12:41:40 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : Rob, sadly when some players lose a bit of form some supporters never forget that, so no matter how well that player players there after he will only get judged on the tikme he has poor form, or got injured etc.

    Wolla even as a sub was huge last year, specially the latter stages of the season, he was very good in the warm up games and he was good on Saturday.

    I am not always the biggest Botes fan out there but one must always give credit where it is due, and thats what lacks many times from supporters or bloggers, and I am of the opinion that our unsung hero on the weekend was Botes, he was brilliant against the Cheetahs.

  • Comment 41, posted at 25.02.13 13:01:36 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 41) : Meant to say there that Deysel is not getting credit for when he plays well.

  • Comment 42, posted at 25.02.13 13:06:08 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Ratings too high for that performance. Front row spot on, but Bresler wasn’t so good in the loose and the loosies weren’t very good on attack irrespective scramble defence.

    Reinach was not decisive enough, Frans didn’t create much or straighten the line enough and Jordaan’s option taking was average.

  • Comment 43, posted at 25.02.13 13:09:18 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 41) : I am equally guilty… all I really remember of Botes’ game was the stupid offload at the end that nearly cost us the match.

  • Comment 44, posted at 25.02.13 13:09:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 41) : Botes was great on the ground – got us at least two penalties and at least two outright steals where he ripped the ball.

    He would have made the national team of most countries at the height of his career.

  • Comment 45, posted at 25.02.13 13:21:46 by King Shark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 44) : 😆 bro, as i said i aint Botes biggest fan, but i saw many good things from him on the weekend, also min the warm up matches, he was on fire. he is in a rich vein of form.

  • Comment 46, posted at 25.02.13 13:29:56 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • 😈 I like the ratings as it also adds up to reflect our total team mark – 6 out of 10. We played an 8/10 but ended on a 6.
    The most worring factors for me were the way we neglected to clear the rucks and were held up of the floor. This slowed the ball and momentum.
    Also the kicks when we should have attacked, but that was fatigue. 😈

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