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Sharks player ratings v Cheetahs


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 22 Apr 2013 at 09:48
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As the team performances continue to decline, the individual ratings must go down as well. The Sharks plumbed new depths in losing to the Cheetahs last weekend, with the overall performance battling to reach 4/10. We rate the players against that backdrop.

1) Beast Mtawarira. Looked reasonable and applied pressure in the scrum before he was forced off. 5/10
2) Kyle Cooper. One of the few who kept his head up and kept trying all match. 6/10
3) Wiehahn Herbst. Scrummed well on either side and adapted well to the unfamiliar loosehead role. 6/10
4) Anton Bresler. A late starter, he battled for impact, although he did try hard. 5/10
5) Franco van der Merwe. Another anonymous 80 minutes. 3/10
6) Marcell Coetzee. There’s more to playing flank than tackling everything that moves and Coetzee’s poor hands and non-existent breakdown technique cost the Sharks on the day. 4/10
7) Pieter-Steph du Toit. It wasn’t fair on the youngster to shift him out of position on the eve of the match and he looked uncomfortable and predictable as a flank. Did better at lock in the second half. 6/10
8) Keegan Daniel. They say a fish rots from the head down and the captain was little short of atrocious. Consistency would see him miss the tour after such a showing… 2/10

9) Cobus Reinach. Battled again with accuracy, but remains the only source of x-factor in the backline. 6/10
10) Pat Lambie. Under pressure all day and did little other than to pass that pressure on to those around him. 5/10
11) Andries Coetzee. A bright display from a man who seemed to be playing without shackles. His injury was a cruel blow. 6/10
12) Meyer Bosman. Added little variety or threat on attack and battled to contain his opposite number at times. 4/10
13) Paul Jordaan. His once-vaunted skill level appears to decline week by week and a defensive error from him led to the first Cheetahs try, from which the Sharks never recovered. Only a great break at the end of the game saves him from a lower rating, but even that broke down, as they all tend to do these days. 2/10
14) Odwa Ndungane. Tries hard, always, but lacks the pace to make much out of anything these days. 4/10
15) Riaan Viljoen. The one lone ray of light in an otherwise shoddy team showing – Viljoen enjoyed a superb day. Let’s hope he can do the same next week. 7/10

16) Craig Burden. Not on long enough to rate.
17) Jannie du Plessis. Held his own in the scrums, no more, no less. 4/10
18) Jean Deysel. Brought his fire to the pack and was head and shoulders above any other loose forward for the Sharks on the day. 6/10
19) Tera Mtembu. Not on long enough to rate.
20) Charl McLeod. Unused.
21) Frans Steyn. Fewer errors, but continues to butcher tries by making selfish decisions. 4/10
22) Sean Robinson. Not on long enough to rate.


137 Comments

  • Agree with these ratings!

  • Comment 1, posted at 22.04.13 10:09:00 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply
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  • The rating of Jordaan is shocking (I’m not being biased BTW)…even without the break he was one of our best players on defence and linked up with the wings very well in the wet.

    And the stuff up where the try came was due to a crap pitch; you would think that you will slide on the wet grass instead it grips and gives him a face plant…I give Jordaan at least a 6, agree Viljoen was our best player on the day.

  • Comment 2, posted at 22.04.13 10:12:37 by JJR Reply
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  • minus 1 for everybody

  • Comment 3, posted at 22.04.13 10:12:43 by Poisy Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 2) : you are hardly unbiased when it comes to Jordaan, as you’ve shown in the past. He was crap and he’s been crap all season.

  • Comment 4, posted at 22.04.13 10:19:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • Team for this weekend should be-

    1.Wors
    2.Coops
    3.Jannie
    4.PSDT
    5.Bresler
    6.Coetzee
    7.Deysel
    8.Keegan
    9.Reinach
    10.Lambie
    11.Robinson
    12.Steyn
    13.Jordaan
    14.Ndungane
    15.Viljoen

    16.Burden
    17.??
    18.VDM
    19.Mtembu
    20.Mcloed
    21.Bosman
    22.? ?

  • Comment 5, posted at 22.04.13 10:20:57 by JJR Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Explain to me other than the bad clean up from the kick what he did wrong? He definitely played a whole lot better than Bosman…I’m not biased, i support him…i won’t lie when i say he wasn’t good gainst the Crusaders and Stormers. You were asking for him to link up with players and he actually did that in crap weather…and every tackle he made he forced the guy backwards…He played better than Deysel and you know how big a fan i am of him…

  • Comment 6, posted at 22.04.13 10:24:37 by JJR Reply
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  • Viljoen was by far our best player on the day with Cooper close on his heels. Keegan was for lack of a better term, crap. Its sad to know that these guys are so much better than this pile of dung that they are dishing up lately. Surely the blame has to be put at the door of the coaching staff? How else do u explain how world class players suddenly start playing worse than a bunch of preschoolers?
    Or are the guys really that depended on the influence that players like Bissie, Willem etc bring to the team?

  • Comment 7, posted at 22.04.13 10:25:35 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 6) : Jordaan played better than Deysel. Dude, is there alcohol in those supplements you take? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 8, posted at 22.04.13 10:26:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • It seems Brussow is training the entire Cheetah pack in the dark arts of stealing ball. Please – can we get someone to try and teach our loosies to be able to do the same.

  • Comment 9, posted at 22.04.13 10:28:08 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 6) :
    I’d say take the blinkers off, but I suspect they might be welded on. 😉

  • Comment 10, posted at 22.04.13 10:28:45 by Big Fish Reply
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  • i was at the game, and there is something wrong here. The players dont look like they want to be on the park playing. There is a serious behind the scenes issue that is affecting the way we play.
    Where is our head doctor!!

  • Comment 11, posted at 22.04.13 10:29:11 by Dunx Reply

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  • I have to disagree on Franco again. Our Line-out continues to function and compete way above what we have seen the Sharks do in the past. I still believe his influence here is valuable.

  • Comment 12, posted at 22.04.13 10:29:36 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 9) : The problem I saw on saterday was that the Sharks forwards were not committed in cleaning out the Cheetahs come ruck time, they all seemed to stop and wait for the ball to take it up, but forgot that u first have to secure your ball first. Seems as if the players have no real instruction as to who the main ball carriers is suppose to be. When Bissie, Alberts and Deysel play, they are clearly the main carriers and this allows the forwards to be able to concentrate on other areas.

  • Comment 13, posted at 22.04.13 10:33:22 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • Paul Jordaan did poorly with that last break, he decided to run away from his support in stead of linking up with players. The break was fortunate the player that got the break was unfortunate. Once he was tackled he was completely isolated… the only way that break could have turned out great, was if he could get over the line by himself, but even then I would have had to criticize him for taking the wrong play.

    It was more important to insure that you get the ball to other players in space and if you couldn’t get over the line straight away to set up another phase.

    It was bad decision making, as he has been doing all season.

  • Comment 14, posted at 22.04.13 10:33:32 by Letgo Reply
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  • Rob, I don’t see how Steyn butchered tries when he came on.

  • Comment 15, posted at 22.04.13 10:36:09 by Letgo Reply
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  • Agree, Jordaan been poor all season, wonder if they’ll give Lindeque a starting chance on the tour, he can’t be much worse

  • Comment 16, posted at 22.04.13 10:36:27 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 15) :

    He had a massive overlap and tried to run over four defenders instead of passing.. Idiot move that cost us!

  • Comment 17, posted at 22.04.13 10:40:51 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • I actually thought Steyn did well when he came on. It looks almost as if the time on the bench is benefiting him

  • Comment 18, posted at 22.04.13 10:40:53 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 18) : I agree. Is it just me or was the whole team better when Frans was kaptein?

  • Comment 19, posted at 22.04.13 10:46:47 by Orelando_G Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 18) : he did better than he has in the past, but that shocking decision to cut inside and run away from support was damning.

  • Comment 20, posted at 22.04.13 10:47:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 17) :

    I suspected that’s what the answer will be, as it always is with Steyn, but I can’t remember in this particular game that, that happened. The time he did step in the players outside him was not in position and as the ball came to him very slowly the defense was already up and covering the outside and he almost score by making 15m on his own.

    Are you talking about the time we were close to the try line or some other time in the match, because when he didn’t I was actually glad he didn’t pass, as I didn’t think the pass was on.

    Our backline are standing way to flat these days, which negates the work anyone is doing in taking the ball flat to the line, because they can’t pass the ball to a supportive runner, since they usually have already overrun the ball carrier or are standing behind defenders.

  • Comment 21, posted at 22.04.13 10:49:14 by Letgo Reply
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  • I still say Reinach has a crap pass and slow to get to and pass from rucks. period.

  • Comment 22, posted at 22.04.13 10:50:45 by Uli Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : True, he is far from the Steyn we know he can be, but it looks like he is getting there. @Orelando_G (Comment 19) : I think Steyn needs to start again and Keegan be givin some time on the wood. Make Frans captain and give Tera a start. Maybe give Lindique a start at 13 and shift Jordaan to wing in place of Odwa. It, is a shame about that Coetzee kid, he looked good

  • Comment 23, posted at 22.04.13 10:52:21 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : Our support play is so bad these days and the ball dies with the outside backs and Jordaan so much that you can’t blame a guy for just taking it up.

    Bosman are known for putting his players into space, yet, how many times did he make good passes in the game? To me it felt like he took that inside step option most of the time, why? I feel it is because the players outside him doesn’t give him a good option to pass to.

  • Comment 24, posted at 22.04.13 10:52:40 by Letgo Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 23) : I like those team options.

    1 Herbst
    2 Cooper
    3 Jannie
    4 Steph
    5 Franko
    6 Minnie (Just because I think he’s better at the breakdonw than any of our players)
    7 Deysel
    8 Tera (Just because Kanko wasn’t taken on tour and Keegan has been crap)

    9 Cobus
    10 Lambie
    11 Jordaan
    12 Steyn
    13 Lideque
    14 Robinson
    15 Viljoen

  • Comment 25, posted at 22.04.13 10:55:55 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 21) :

    I suspect Rob is referring to when we were close to the line.

    Even the crap commentators said there was space on the outside. We need to get the ball to the wings, there was no way Frans could get through three or four defenders to score on his own.

    He needs to look outside him, otherwise the only thing left to do is put him on the wing, where he has nobody to pass to anyway!

  • Comment 26, posted at 22.04.13 10:57:16 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 25) : I like the idea of Minnie starting with Marcell coming from the bench.

  • Comment 27, posted at 22.04.13 10:57:40 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • I feel like our outside backs are standing way to flat to the defense. It’s great if you’re flyhalf and 12 is taking the ball up to the line, but your supportive runners needs to come from depth. If the flat pass to Jordaan from Bosman/Steyn is not on your wings and fullback needs to come into the game from depth and we haven’t seen our guys doing that this year.

  • Comment 28, posted at 22.04.13 10:58:05 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 26) : I didn’t watch the game on TV yet, so can’t be influenced by commentators comments, but I can tell you there was not a huge overlap on that occasion and had Steyn passed the two players that was to his right would have been isolated IMO.

  • Comment 29, posted at 22.04.13 10:59:36 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 29) : I could be wrong though, but that’s what I remember seeing from the stands.

  • Comment 30, posted at 22.04.13 11:03:22 by Letgo Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 2) : The stuff up was bad, but you’d have to first blame the player (I believe it was Keegan, but I’m not sure), who just tossed the ball away when the Sharks was on a good attacking run.

    We did that a couple of times. I suspect we’ve become so bad at secure our possession in the rucks that players are afraid just to hold on for phase ball.

    It’s sad to see the Sharks play like this, especially when you know if we could fix up a few of the fundamentals we’ll improve in leaps and bounds.

    Just a simple thing like effective cleaning would see the Sharks play at least 30% better. If not more.

  • Comment 31, posted at 22.04.13 11:07:11 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 29) :

    I’m sorry, watching in the stands must give you such a clear view of matters compared to seeing it up close and repeated over and over.

  • Comment 32, posted at 22.04.13 11:11:19 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Why has keegan never been blamed for not passing to Steyn with a open try line last week against the stormers?

  • Comment 33, posted at 22.04.13 11:13:41 by Uli Reply
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  • I thought this was a pearler by old Plum:

    “I think the Cheetahs played no rugby. They just kicked the ball away all night. We wanted to be a bit more ambitious and as positive as we could, but weren’t entirely accurate.”

    Did he notice the conditions on the night?

  • Comment 34, posted at 22.04.13 11:20:37 by Morné Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : AMEN.

  • Comment 35, posted at 22.04.13 11:31:53 by King Shark Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 32) :

    Sarcasm?

    You’re pretty snappy these days aren’t you Rich. Sarcasm doesn’t really help your argument now does it. Since you saw it over and over, you could have pointed out to me which supportive runners were on Steyn’s outside and how many defenders were marking those runners, but you shows to sarcastically say that sitting in the stands can’t be better than watching it on TV.

    i just gave you my perspective of how I saw the situation. I didn’t say that the way I saw it was an absolute fact.

    And as you might know, they do show replays on the big screen at the game.

    TV angles aren’t always as good as having a complete view from the stands.

    But as I’ve said, I only saw it once and might change my mind if I saw it again. I have the game on PVR and intend on watching it again, as I mostly do with games where the Sharks looked crap to get a better perspective after taking some of the emotion out of it.

  • Comment 36, posted at 22.04.13 11:47:28 by Letgo Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) :
    You are right Jordaan has been poor all season.
    He doesn’t have the hands or skill to play centre, everyone goes on about his pace and step, I have only seen it once last year against the Reds in the semi when he scored, never again.

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  • Comment 37, posted at 22.04.13 11:53:53 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 37) :

    Even though I might agree with parts of your comment, you should back your requested sacking of these guys with viable replacements.

    So 2 inside centers (who can also play 10 and 15 respectively) an outside center and the coaching staff.

    Who would you suggest?

  • Comment 38, posted at 22.04.13 12:01:18 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 36) : that’s because he’s a deciple of Keo now letgo, different mentality I think.

  • Comment 39, posted at 22.04.13 12:45:19 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 39) : you mean ‘disciple’ perhaps? That’s kind of insulting.

    Rich has always been and will always remain MY disciple. The dwarf can get in line :mrgreen:

  • Comment 40, posted at 22.04.13 12:56:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : does keo also have a Richard Ferguson writing for him then Rob?

  • Comment 41, posted at 22.04.13 13:00:56 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 41) : it’s the same oke, as you of course know.

  • Comment 42, posted at 22.04.13 13:10:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • Of course I do Rob, the why your comment?

  • Comment 43, posted at 22.04.13 13:13:28 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 43) : because your poorly-spelled insult was irrelevant and unfair, that’s why.

  • Comment 44, posted at 22.04.13 13:17:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • My spelling was wrong Rob BUT you personally should “never throw stones in glass houses “when is comes to spelling. What part was insulting?I’m surely missing something here, !!by the way “love your banter Rob”

  • Comment 45, posted at 22.04.13 13:27:31 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 34) : Yip – totally the wrong tactics for the occasion. Can’t blame the opposition if they actually used their grey matter.

  • Comment 46, posted at 22.04.13 13:29:37 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Keegan Daniel has got Velcro on his hands.when he gets the ball he does not like to pass. one time he got the ball and their was a 3 to 1 over lap and he just held on and tried to brake the line.

  • Comment 47, posted at 22.04.13 13:37:08 by pete69 Reply

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  • Whoever suggests Frans Steyn should start can claim temporary insanity…over rated 😈

    More damning or the Sharkies is the loose trio – Something I have always believed controls the momentum of a match. The halfbacks pull the strings, but the loosies are the heart and sole of the team. This trio is way off the mark. Marcell, for me, has been the worst of the lot. Botes is sorely missed and Daniel cant fire without quick ball (provided and protected by the likes of Botes). As unfair as it is to others Minnie has to start at 6 since we have no one, apart from Bosman it seems, competing for the ball.

    6. Minnie
    7. Deysel
    8. coff* – KANKOWSKI – But Daniel will do

    The most important position (or type of player to have) is an out and out openside. All the good teams have one…

    Reds – Gill/Robinson
    Chiefs – Cane
    Brumbies – *Pocock/Smith
    Cheetahs – Brussow/Coenie/Eberhson 😉
    Saders – *McCaw/Todd
    Tahs – Hooper

    Boks of 2009 – Bismarck/Brussow!!!

    The ability to slow down and turn over ball is perhaps the most important aspect of defense!!! And in turn the ability to protect ball is as important in attack…

    BREAKDOWN IS WHERE WE HAVE LOST THIS SEASON LADS. that simple

  • Comment 48, posted at 22.04.13 13:46:41 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 38) : Hoo Boy, now you are asking a question, of course the answer will be Nick Mallet, who is sitting around just waiting for the call. Yeah right.

  • Comment 49, posted at 22.04.13 13:53:33 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 39) :

    If you are going to insult someone, try get the spelling right.. Otherwise its kind of laughable?!

    I really don’t think my mentality has anything to do with a rugby opinion, but maybe I’m wrong?!?

  • Comment 50, posted at 22.04.13 14:05:19 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 50) :
    Well, maybe thats why its Classic and not Classy Shark.

  • Comment 51, posted at 22.04.13 14:13:01 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Now-now boys and girls, stay classy, leave the in-fighting for your team 😈

  • Comment 52, posted at 22.04.13 14:16:15 by Morné Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 36) :

    I haven’t been unnecessarily snappy Maria?

    You seem to argue with every single fact, yet when taken on about it, you backtrack and say you haven’t seen the footage yet, or whatever.

    Don’t stress though, I won’t question your opinion again because it seems I am doing so unfairly.

  • Comment 53, posted at 22.04.13 14:16:57 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 52) : ouch

  • Comment 54, posted at 22.04.13 14:25:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 53) : Richard, you are always “unfair” 😈 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 55, posted at 22.04.13 14:32:19 by Uli Reply
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  • I think it’s understandable if we’re all a bit worked up at the moment. Anyone want some weed?

  • Comment 56, posted at 22.04.13 14:32:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • One can critisize Steyn and Bosman at inside centre as much as you like, but at the moment the Sharks don’t play the type of rugby that is easy for any centre. How many backline moves is there? Only one or two in a game, because the forwards is always in the backline, get the ball, and down. Look at the Cheetahs, they play with the backline as it should. Instead of fight for the ball on the ground, they stand in the backline.

  • Comment 57, posted at 22.04.13 14:33:12 by springbok Reply

     
  • Robbo, I dont really know why you bothered with this.

    Just give the whole team a 5 and get done with it. They were all equally poor.

  • Comment 58, posted at 22.04.13 14:34:04 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 56) :

    Be at yours after work. Thanks for the offer.

  • Comment 59, posted at 22.04.13 14:34:40 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 52) :

    Hoe lekker lag ek nou.

  • Comment 60, posted at 22.04.13 14:35:03 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 55) : you saying he’s ugly? Look, I’ll agree Rich isn’t exactly an oil-painting, but I’ve seen worse :mrgreen:

  • Comment 61, posted at 22.04.13 14:35:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • Am I the only one that thinks Keegan is not 100% fit?

  • Comment 62, posted at 22.04.13 14:36:35 by Morné Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 49) : It won’t hurt to tentatively start shopping for a new coaching team. It is too late now to appoint a new coach mid-competition – so Plum may as well finish out the season.

  • Comment 63, posted at 22.04.13 14:36:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • So, the real questions then becomes – how to get a team, good on paper, out of their funk.

    Maybe the cast of Glee have the answer?

  • Comment 64, posted at 22.04.13 14:37:14 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @springbok (Comment 57) : you’ve hit the wrong nail on the head. Backs are getting shit ball cos we’re being owned at every breakdown. I guess in a way that’s because we have so many forwards in the backline?

  • Comment 65, posted at 22.04.13 14:37:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 58) : many of them didn’t deserve a 5

  • Comment 66, posted at 22.04.13 14:38:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • You guys are like children, ganging up and selectively attacking someones spelling because you dont like their view on some or other issue is a classic method of cyber bullying and trying to belittle but it is not classy at all. I noticed it on Friday as well.

  • Comment 67, posted at 22.04.13 14:39:47 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 67) : I started it….

  • Comment 68, posted at 22.04.13 14:40:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 52) : Sad but true!!
    @Morné (Comment 62) : Does being ‘unfit’ make it more difficult to catch or pass a ball?

  • Comment 69, posted at 22.04.13 14:42:39 by Pokkel Reply
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  • If only the Sharks could play like we can moan….

  • Comment 70, posted at 22.04.13 14:43:22 by Uli Reply
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  • The coach wasnt the one who continuously dropped the ball.

    The coach wasnt the one that showed no heart out on the field.
    Maybe Durban boys just have less hear than those from Bloem? Nah that cant be the case – half those boys are from Bloem anyway! 😉

    Seriously though, Plum doesnt take away their motivation or teach them to drop the ball, not to hit rucks etc.

    In my mind, things started to go wrong whne Steyn cam back… seemed to coincide with a loss of heart amongst the team. Coincidence? Maybe…

  • Comment 71, posted at 22.04.13 14:45:30 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 53) :

    I said that I didn’t THINK the pass was on. And then said that I will check whether my first reaction to the situation was right. It’s not backtracking it’s admitting that even though that was my first view of the situation that since more than one person felt differently that I am willing to check again. It would be foolish to stand on your point if you are not 100% certain of your facts.

    I never said that I was definitely right and also don’t mind being wrong every now and then. You can differ from me any time you like, I actually enjoy having a healthy debate with people who’s opinions I respect. I just don’t think that when someone has a difference of opinion that questioning their judgement is a respectful way of differing from them.

    Question the opinion, not the person.

    What I’m saying is that you didn’t differ from me, I differed from you and you pointed out that, as I was at the game my judgement might not have been as good as yours – in a sarcastic way – yet you still have not given any information to me that makes an argument for a pass, instead of the step inside.

  • Comment 72, posted at 22.04.13 14:45:59 by Letgo Reply
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  • What amazes me to a certain degree, is how some of the Sharks players, in contention for Bok places a month or two ago, are just throwing it away!

    Instead of making it difficult for HM to justify picking Spies and Olivier, they’re making it easy for him!

  • Comment 73, posted at 22.04.13 14:47:21 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 71) : I don’t agree, it happened when Keegan was elected captain again and was actually not ready to even play.

  • Comment 74, posted at 22.04.13 14:50:34 by Uli Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 74) : Keegan is the team captain. If he is in the team he will be captain. If he is injured somebody else will but when Keegan returns he will once again become captain. Im sure Frans knew this and does not see it as an injustice to him or the team.

  • Comment 75, posted at 22.04.13 14:53:12 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 75) : my problem was not with him being captain, my problem was that he returned to the team obviously not ready to take the field.

  • Comment 76, posted at 22.04.13 14:57:05 by Uli Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 71) : the coach dropped Kankowski….

  • Comment 77, posted at 22.04.13 14:59:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 71) :

    Maybe the players are confused about their roles on the field due to poor coaching? Who knows but something is very wrong with the Sharks?

    Jukskei anybody?

  • Comment 78, posted at 22.04.13 15:02:27 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 78) : Must say I am considering being blue…. um wait come on SHARKS!!!

  • Comment 79, posted at 22.04.13 15:04:20 by Uli Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 71) : Someone needs to take responsibility – that is what the coach is paid for.

    I can give him some leeway due to all the injuries, but my opinion has been formed over the past 2 years or so. I reckon he has taken the Sharks as far as he is able to, and now it is time for a new coaching team.

  • Comment 80, posted at 22.04.13 15:13:44 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • A coahc with 20 years experience doesnt become shit overnight.

  • Comment 81, posted at 22.04.13 15:15:40 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 77) :

    Who by all accounts came back from Japan fat and out of form.

  • Comment 82, posted at 22.04.13 15:16:14 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 80) :

    How about all those senior Springboks in the team?

    Sharks just dont seem to want to play.

  • Comment 83, posted at 22.04.13 15:17:06 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 25) : Good team selection. I love the idea of Steyn at centre with Jordaan on the wing. Would also mean we have two fast wingers! 🙂

  • Comment 84, posted at 22.04.13 15:18:52 by SeanyJMc Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 81) : I personally would not mind if Plum stays on as a specialist forwards coach (pretty much as Fischer did at the Brumbies), as long as a decent head coach and some proper back line / skill / mind coaches are added to the team.

  • Comment 85, posted at 22.04.13 15:19:30 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 83) : There is obviously something deeper going on at the Sharks, but again the coach needs to sort that.

  • Comment 86, posted at 22.04.13 15:21:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 83) : Isn’t the motivational problem part of coaching? Surely part of the coaching job is to motivate?

  • Comment 87, posted at 22.04.13 15:22:22 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 87) : And if he does not know how, then he better ask for someone who knows to assist

  • Comment 88, posted at 22.04.13 15:24:39 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 87) :

    If your bosses are bringing back players, or contracting players, with kak attitudes there’s not a lot you can do about it.

    If your bosses are bringing back players from overseas overweight and out of form what are you to do?
    If there’s a whiff in the team whereby players just dont seem lus anymore, what are you to do? You drop the player, but then get the ire of you lot.

    Somebody like Jannie – his mind seems elsewhere. Maybe because he had a kid?

  • Comment 89, posted at 22.04.13 15:29:17 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • It seems too easy to me to blame the coach.

    Its not his lack of heart thats losing games.

  • Comment 90, posted at 22.04.13 15:29:55 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 89) : @VinChainSaw (Comment 90) :

    Bottom line is nobody knows and that is why there will always be speculation and each person will blame somebody else.

    All I have to say is: Sort this shit out, quickly!!

  • Comment 91, posted at 22.04.13 15:34:26 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 90) : Ok mate then how about this. Under Plum we have finished 3rd, 6th, 9th, 6th, 6th.

    I want you to explain why the players are not performing then???

    This is how I see it:

    – Either the players, as you say, are not good enough (skill wise or motivation or whatever)
    OR
    – THe coach is not able to draw the best from them and lead them properly.

    IT DOESNT MATTER WHICH, because in the end IF THE PLAYERS ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH it is the responsibility of the coach to find/groom new and better players.

    I personally feel it is the latter, because man for man we have a great squad. Plum doesnt have what it takes to create a championship team.

  • Comment 92, posted at 22.04.13 15:35:33 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • The Sharks have tried LOTS of different players…. always seems to be the same problem.

  • Comment 93, posted at 22.04.13 15:39:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 92) :

    I’m not convinced it is a great squad personally. There seem a few spots that arent exactly filled with talent. Scrummie, openside, CENTRE!

  • Comment 94, posted at 22.04.13 15:44:30 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • I see the same basic issues with the team for a few years now – #1 struggling to maintain own possession against any team with decent fetchers. If you can’t maintain possession, you can’t build pressure.

  • Comment 95, posted at 22.04.13 15:45:13 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 94) : Surely the coach and Rudolf (who I would also not mind leaving) had some time to bring in some players from outside to fill those gaps if they can’t find a home grown player that can step up. We have been sitting with a bunch of sevens and eights, and pretty much just one six who is getting a bit long in the tooth now.

  • Comment 96, posted at 22.04.13 15:50:01 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 94) : Yes and No. Majority of all pundits from all 3 conferences put Sharks as favorites for SA conference because of our great squad. So disagree with u there.

    Openside for sure, although I feel Botes doesnt get the credit he deserves (but then again Plum wouldnt put him in the starting 15).

    We are dodgy at #9 ever since The Master in Pienaar left.
    And we just dont have enough depth at centre. Whitehead is sorely missed as he was the brains in the Sharks attack last year. Jordaan looked brilliant outside of Whitehead.

    So do you see my point??

  • Comment 97, posted at 22.04.13 15:50:06 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 94) : Scrummie and openside yes, especially openside, but Reinach seems promising and Charl served us well in the past… we could have moer depth here though.

    Centre however, I believe is covered.

    Steyn on form is still the Bok first choice 12. Bosman is good cover as 12/10, whitehead has been sublime since starting with the Sharks and can play both 12/13… Jordaan showed promise but has not delivered as of yet. Given better possession I think he’ll gains some confidence and get back to some of his best rugby.

  • Comment 98, posted at 22.04.13 15:50:21 by Letgo Reply
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  • Here is a stat/fact I love.

    2007 SuperRugby we were brilliant – #6 Botes
    2008 CUrrie Cup – #6 Botes
    2010 Currie Cup – #6 Daniel
    2012 SuperRugby (2nd half of season) – #6 Daniel

    Both are tough and Intelligent players.

    Oh as a side note. Kanko was #8 on each of those occasions!!!

  • Comment 99, posted at 22.04.13 15:55:49 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 81) : I don’t think Plum is a bad coach, but after 7 years with the union and only 2 CC titles 2 show and plenty of talent – although not necessarily the best in every position still plenty of talent – to work with, I think it is a valid question to ask whether he is the best available for the team or whether their might be someone else who could do more for the Sharks.

    We don’t feel we’ve always had the best team and certainly with the current injury crisis you can’t really judge plum on this season’s results only, but based on the last 7 years, we as supporters do feel that maybe the Sharks, with the group of players we have had available to us over these years, could have and should have done better.

    Certainly you can’t say that over these 7 years all the players that played for the team was just not motivated. Player personnel changed improved weakened, the coaching staff stayed the same, as did the performances over this time.

  • Comment 100, posted at 22.04.13 16:00:28 by Letgo Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 99) : Botes also played all of the 2011 season up until the semi’s and final, we played really badly in the semi’s and won and sucked in the final.

    The point really is you can’t play without an openside flanker.

  • Comment 101, posted at 22.04.13 16:03:57 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 101) : I agree. I mentioned above somewhere. Most important position on the field. In my mind.

    Was just mentioning the guys who have deputised well in that position. NOT MARCELL COETZEE. A blindside is easy to replace…NOt so for an Openside

  • Comment 102, posted at 22.04.13 16:10:54 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • I know people are going to freak about this idea, but my backline for this weekend is:
    9. Mcloed
    10 Bosman
    11 Jordaan
    12 Steyn
    13 Lindeque
    14 Viljoen
    15 Lambie

  • Comment 103, posted at 22.04.13 16:14:02 by Uli Reply
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  • Forwards:
    1.Wors
    2.Coops
    3.Jannie
    4.PSDT
    5.Bresler
    6.Keegan
    7.Deysel
    8.Coetzee

  • Comment 104, posted at 22.04.13 16:19:08 by Uli Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 50) : @Richard Ferguson (Comment 50) : laughable maybe Rich , but certainly relevent!! Now that you write for keo , you seem to have his sort of opinions too, pity you don’t have your own, Rob and “the dwarf” sharing bloggers?? Who would have thought??

  • Comment 105, posted at 22.04.13 16:51:15 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 105) : the dwarf knows I have good shit!

  • Comment 106, posted at 22.04.13 17:02:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 103) : 😈 Not freakish at all. Lambie is great at full back and meyer will do well a FH. I do think Paul needs a rest though.
    The problem is that no one wants to do the basics of their positions first. The forwards line up in the backline,leaving the rucks to the backline and the backline players do no dive on loose balls and attempt to create space.
    Too much flash and too little basics.
    Our work rate is sub standard- we did not contest 1 cheetah lineout, push the cheetahs of the ruck or push a maul over the advantage line. BACK2BASICS! 😈

  • Comment 107, posted at 22.04.13 17:21:28 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 106) : answer my question Rob?

  • Comment 108, posted at 22.04.13 17:37:03 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 105) :

    Just because I write for the largest rugby site in South Africa, does not mean that I have to share his view on anything.

    I write my own pieces and do not have to conform to anything.

    So maybe get your facts straight before you start insinuating shit like that.

  • Comment 109, posted at 22.04.13 17:49:34 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 105) :

    And in any case, what does it matter to you that I write for both Sharksworld and Keo?

  • Comment 110, posted at 22.04.13 17:51:08 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 108) : and yes, what’s the question?

  • Comment 111, posted at 22.04.13 17:52:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 105) :

    You have been rather vocal about my writing without really saying anything? Why don’t you tell me straight up, without beating around the bush, what your problem is with me?

    If you are scared about what others might say or think, or if you want to steer clear of Rob’s moderation, why don’t you email me and we can chat about whatever you have a problem with:

    [email protected]

  • Comment 112, posted at 22.04.13 18:12:13 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Wasnt McLoud touted as the second coming and a shoe-in for a Bok place this time last year?

    Same with Bresler, wasnt he going to dominate the Bok jersey this year? Coetzee was also going to beat out every opensider in SA?
    Too funny… 😎

  • Comment 113, posted at 22.04.13 19:22:09 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 45) : THIS is the question in question my esteemed friend.And why the “he works for me”quote , when he clearly has divided loyalties?Big up to him.

  • Comment 114, posted at 22.04.13 22:44:07 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 109) : @Richard Ferguson (Comment 110) : @Richard Ferguson (Comment 112) :
    1)never stated any facts , beside thinking that the only opinion that matters to you is your own .
    2)the fact you write for both site,s either mean that a)your a brilliant /knowlegable and dilligent writer or b) your loyalty is divided, but either way it certainly does not bother me nor give me sleepless nights,and honestly , big up to you.
    3)no problem with your writing Rich(at all really) ,just the way you critisize other opinions ,nothing about what others say or think will ever scare or worry me really, so dont be concerned .

    Overall thanks plenty for your undivided attention to my comments , it shows you really care..I hope you go from strength to strength, and best of luck for all future arti,s..

  • Comment 115, posted at 22.04.13 23:07:23 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • Cant wait for my next star.

  • Comment 116, posted at 22.04.13 23:09:03 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 112) :

    Hey Rich,

    So I looked at the footage last night (there was no reply, but I amuse you did what I did and slowed your PVR down). There was no HUGE overlap. Viljoen and Jordaan was on Steyn’s right, van Zyl was drifting to cover Jordaan and Rule and Francis drifting to cover Viljoen.

    After watching the footage again, with the benifit of slowing it down, I agree that Steyn should indeed have passed. I can’t say it would have been a certain try, but I would expect any proper inside center to run at the two inside defenders, draw them, make the pass to Viljoen, who could then draw Van Zyl, the last defender and put Jordaan over the line.

    What’s even more unexceptable than Steyn not passing, is the fact that he never shifted his gaze to the right to measure up his options, he was looking to his left where the ball came from and to where he saw an opportunity for himself to step into, which was fine for him, but not so great for the team.

    You and Rob were right, he should have passed and butchered a “possible” or “probable” try. What was worse though was Marcell egging the ball just after that, ruining the opportunity completely.

    The game wasn’t fun to watch again btw.

  • Comment 117, posted at 23.04.13 08:05:21 by Letgo Reply
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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 115) :

    I am not working for two different political parties, I am merely using two websites to publish my work. Loyalty is not a factor as I write my own opinion (contrary to what you might think), whether I write it on Sharksworld or on Keo. Sometimes my pieces even go up on both sites, so whatever your insinuations about loyalty, I don’t quite get it.

    As for my own opinion being most important, you missed the boat if you base that on what you have seen on this thread. My problem is not with other opinions, in fact, I encourage them, that is why I write, but to put down some opinion without backing it up, or then changing your mind to go with flow, that I have a problem with and will tell you. That has nothing to do with writing for Keo, I have been that frank since the day I started.

    If you don’t like Keo, don’t go there. But don’t take that dislike out on me, because I won’t stand for that.

  • Comment 118, posted at 23.04.13 08:07:51 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Also, Jordaan’s break was great (and created by some smart stepping and an offload from Steyn and then a smart running line by Jordaan himslef), but the fact that he didn’t even look for the pass on his outside to Robinson, who would have trotted over for the try, or when he was tackled didn’t just hold on to the ball for a ruck (Steph and Robinson arrived milliseconds after he was tackled), was not a very bad decision to make at that point.

    But Reinach’s run into exactly 4 defenders, of which 3 forwards including Heinrich Brossouw, when only Adriaan Struass was covering Viljoen, Jordaan, Steyn, Lambie, was absolutely atrocious.

  • Comment 119, posted at 23.04.13 08:10:38 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 117) : @Letgo (Comment 119) : Those two moments in the match nearly had me throwing my remote through my TV, luckily I realised in time that the Sharks this year just isn’t worth it and I will not get so worked up again.

  • Comment 120, posted at 23.04.13 08:33:52 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Agree with the ratings..
    Would’ve dropped a point for Cobus, and also for Keegan.. Keegan deserves only a 1 / 10. and just because he pitched up…..

  • Comment 121, posted at 23.04.13 08:35:43 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 118) :

    “to put down some opinion without backing it up, or then changing your mind to go with flow, that I have a problem with”

    Was that remark directed towards me?

    I don’t understand what I did wrong?

    Should I have video evidence before I make a remark? Am I not allowed to say how I remembered a situation?

    I hardly think anyone here ever watches the game twice and makes notes before making comments here and I’m sure all of us has been wrong plenty of times.

    The fact that I’m not afraid of being wrong or called out because I changed my mind, is the reason why it has been easy to post here. Because we’re just talking here right?

    Sometimes I’ll feel more strongly about something and stick to my point and other times I’ll go, you know what, when I posted that I was convinced, or I posted it to stand up for the player, or I posted it just to ruffle a few feathers, but having seen your comments or having gone back and checked it again, I can’t stand by that comment anymore.

    When I posted that comment –

    I didn’t remember that situation as being a “massive overlap”. I went on what I remembered and how I felt about the situation. During the game I didn’t feel Steyn did that much damage, maybe it was because we retained the ball and Marcell ended up being the one that finished of the butcher and I was just more upset with him than I was with what Steyn did. Whatever it was, I always said I can’t “remember” Steyn butchering it and I “thought” that the option he had taken was a viable one.

    I never said that I was right for sure and don’t understand your follow up comments from there.

    Having gone back and actually checked. I feel that even though there was three defenders and three attackers (which would not make it a massive overlap), that a better 12 would have been able to draw the 2 inside defenders and left the last 2 guys with a 2 on 1 overlap.

    So I changed my mind.

    Is it wrong to change you mind?

    Should I just blindly continue going on about how I saw it?

  • Comment 122, posted at 23.04.13 08:38:24 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 119) : You make some very interesting observations. I feel that the Sharks could have taken the match at the end, but absolutely butchered a try there.

    My question is simply – how do we fix these problems you have highlighted? Do we need time from Cheryl Calder to work on our players spatial awareness?

    Or do we just blame the players for having no heart, and find another lot that can actually do this?

  • Comment 123, posted at 23.04.13 08:50:07 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 122) :

    Maria,

    Look, firstly, the comment wasn’t actually directed at you.

    Secondly, I have no problem with being wrong, I am wring a lot of times as well, and I don’t have a problem acknowledging it either (see the Kings article I did for proof of that).

    Regarding the comments I made to you, you actually asked Rob where Steyn butchered tries. So that to me tells me that you didn’t think he did anything wrong. I then answered you, telling that he butchered a try but not passing. I didn’t have video evidence of this, I saw it during the game, watching from my living room.

    So now that I informed you of what I saw, you argued. You, the one who asked where Steyn made the mistake then went on to argue with me. When I took it further, you suddenly said that you would like to watch it again.

    Surely if you are going to argue with someone, after you actually asked, you would do so after having checked your facts.

    I apologise if I came across too strong, but I have this tendency to answer other people’s questions. I went back and looked at the game again, if I was wrong and Steyn made the right choice, I would have apologised to you. But he didn’t, and I was right, and I thank you for stating that in your previous post.

  • Comment 124, posted at 23.04.13 08:51:42 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 124) : ” I have this tendency” 😈 😈 kekekeke :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 125, posted at 23.04.13 08:57:37 by Uli Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 124) :

    Thanks Rich, I think I can let this go now.

    Like I said before, I think we’re all a little on edge with how the Sharks are playing right now, we’re passionate about this team, and we react a little quicker than we normally would.

    I appreciate the fact that you came back to me about it to clear things up. And look forward to a little more “friendly banter” in future. 🙂

  • Comment 126, posted at 23.04.13 09:05:20 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 123) :

    In the backs (maybe even more so with our loosies and other ball carriers) I definitely feel that spacial awareness is a problem, but also that the backs don’t have that many opportunities to take the right option, as they usually get slow ball with limited space, therefore when the opportunity comes they haven’t had a few practice runs.

    They say the best teams takes their opportunities, I think the best teams create more opportunities than the rest.

    We’re sitting with a catch 22, because I think these players are lacking “opportunity fitness”, which will improve their spacial awareness, but also that if their spacial awareness improve so will the number of opportunities created.

    Look Reinach’s option to run into the defense was bad, but Jordaan you can’t really blame, because how many times have Plum had the opportunity this year to draw on plays and show the players what they should have done.

    You can work on spacial awareness and certainly should, but my feeling is that if these players get a few more opportunistic during games and get a better feel for what they should be doing in those situations, we’ll start converting opportunities into points.

  • Comment 127, posted at 23.04.13 09:13:59 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 123) : It also doesn’t help that the players don’t know each other as well as a settled team and don’t seem to trust the man outside them as much as they should or would, when good communication forms.

  • Comment 128, posted at 23.04.13 09:15:09 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 128) : look, to be fair, I reckon most of the okes are still trying to learn Andries Coetzee’s and Sean Robinson’s names 🙂

  • Comment 129, posted at 23.04.13 09:29:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 129) : Yip, not an easy situation this for the Sharks and if we want to be really positive … this can be a real character building experience for the players and especially youngsters involved.

  • Comment 130, posted at 23.04.13 09:51:13 by Letgo Reply
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  • href=”#comment-435372″>Richard Ferguson (Comment 118) :I am wring a lot of times as well”should i now too berate your lack of spelling? Dude i dont hate Keo.co.za as much as i find many of the arti’s funny, and comments entertaining .Yours to are good and as i have said before “i truely hope you go from strength to strength”.Remember you blog for the general public now and not everone will be kind to you , so try not to take offence to everything you disagree with , otherwise cardiac arrest might be the next chapter. Otherwise keep up your well written articles…

  • Comment 131, posted at 23.04.13 10:59:09 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • Waaay too much reasoned debate on this site.

    One poster above even went to recheck footage – in his own time!

    Whatever happened to debates based on nothing more than fuzzy, drunken memories?
    FJELN.

  • Comment 132, posted at 23.04.13 11:01:59 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 132) :

    hehehehehehe……

  • Comment 133, posted at 23.04.13 11:03:52 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 132) : longing for the glory days 🙂

  • Comment 134, posted at 23.04.13 11:17:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 131) :

    Well spotted – I am sorry for not being able to edit my own comment.

    Let’s leave it at that and carry on with our lives.

    Enjoy the site..

  • Comment 135, posted at 23.04.13 11:27:10 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 131) :

    Oh, and thanks for the feedback..

  • Comment 136, posted at 23.04.13 11:28:20 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 132) :

    Classy Sharks! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 137, posted at 23.04.13 13:25:42 by Letgo Reply
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