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Sharks player ratings v Chiefs


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 29 Apr 2013 at 09:51
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While it is true that for a good hour of Saturday’s contest in Hamilton, the Sharks delivered a performance of power rugby that is the best we’ve seen in some while – and would easily warrant a collective score of 8 or even 9 out of 10 – the failure to pitch as a unit in the first 20 minutes of the game ultimately cost them any realistic chance of victory. The combined performance, thus, scrapes a 6/10 and we rate the individuals against that.

1) Wiehahn Herbst. He scrummed well. That’s no mean feat given that this was his first senior game as a loose head prop. Further points are scored for the wonderful draw-and-pass that led to Daniel’s try. 6/10
2) Craig Burden. A few wobbly line-outs and a bad knock with the Sharks on attack detract from an otherwise competent showing – possibly his best of the year. 5/10
3) Jannie du Plessis. Played the full 80 for the first time in ages and got stronger as the game progressed. Discipline was good and set-piece work commendable. 6/10
4) Anton Bresler. Huge work-rate, massive defensive effort and also did far more work with ball in hand than we’ve become used to seeing. 6/10
5) Pieter-Steph du Toit. A quieter game – perhaps it’s not really fair to expect such a youngster to carry the entire team physically every week? 5/10
6) Derick Minnie. Hard to say anything negative about a guy who scores to great tries, but I felt Minine’s overall contribution could have been greater, particularly in that awful opening quarter. 6/10
7) Jean Deysel. Brought the power that has been missing from the loose trio in recent weeks and his influence was keenly felt. 6/10
8) Tera Mtembu. Having a player with such great skills – and such a high work rate – at the back of the scrum really paid off on the day. Tera was one of the few to play consistently well throughout the game. 8/10

9) Charl McLeod. His best game in absolute ages. Service was crisp and sure and there were no silly mistakes this week. Welcome back Charl! 7/10
10) Pat Lambie. A very impressive and much improved all-round display, with distribution and option-taking superb. However, we can’t hide form the fact that a few regulation place-kicking misses cost the Sharks the opportunity to be level at half-time. 7/10
11) Piet Lindeque. Started quietly and made a hash of diving on a rolling ball to stop Nanai-Williams scoring in the second half. Showed electrifying pace and wonderful running lines when he did get the ball later in the game, though and marked himself as a player with a bright future at this level. 5/10
12) Meyer Bosman. A poor game, despite some good things off the ball in the first few minutes. 4/10
13) Francois Steyn. Stood up as one of the few seniors in the back line and looked far sharper and more aware than he has for some time. His best performance of the season so far, by a comfortable distance. 6/10
14) Odwa Ndungane. Again showed up for lack of pace. Odwa tries hard, but is being beaten week in and week out by younger, faster players. 4/10
15) Riaan Viljoen. As sublime as his performance was against the Cheetahs, this one was equally ordinary. Didn’t do much wrong, but also failed to do much to elicit praise. 5/10

16) Kyle Cooper. Showed in just 20 minutes why he is the Sharks’ best hooker. 8/10
17) Danie Mienie. Looked decent in his 3 minute cameo; not enough time to rate though.
18) Franco van der Merwe. A great performance from the sub, as he came on and added huge impact all over the field. 7/10
19) Keegan Daniel. Ran in a lovely try, but ultimately, the loss of the second bonus point came down to two silly actions from the captain, who we would expect to know better. 4/10
20) Marcell Coetzee. Made lots of tackles when coming on, but still lacks options as a ball-carrier. 5/10
21) Cobus Reinach. His 13 minutes on the field weren’t enough and unfortunately will be the last we see of him for a while. He looked exciting, though. 6/10
22) S’bura Sithole. Only got a scant 2 minutes at the end.


48 Comments

  • impressed by mthembu i said before i would pick klienhaus(spelling) before him but saturday i ate my words think someone mentioned how he got over the advantage line without trying to run over people may he continue with this form

  • Comment 1, posted at 29.04.13 09:56:45 by Poisy Reply
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  • Mcleod was wonderful. Fast service and good pace. Was good to see. Steyn also looked a lot better.

  • Comment 2, posted at 29.04.13 10:00:44 by PTAShark Reply
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  • @PTAShark (Comment 2) : my gf hates mcloed with a passion because he’s usually so clumsy and costs us posession but even she admitted he played well lol

  • Comment 3, posted at 29.04.13 10:03:38 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 1) : We can only hope Plumtree continues with him and basically the same team, except for a few changes.

    Burden, Odwa

  • Comment 4, posted at 29.04.13 10:04:27 by Letgo Reply
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  • McLeod’s best game in 2 seasons.

    I thought Herbst and Pat deserved better scores. 2 missed kicks dont detract from a very good all round performance. They do however illustrate just how much we depend on him. Can you imagine the pressure on the kid.

  • Comment 5, posted at 29.04.13 10:05:29 by Big Fish Reply
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  • 😯 Speechless…… πŸ˜› The “No Steyn Bashing” Continues…..

  • Comment 6, posted at 29.04.13 10:06:26 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 4) : odwa is such a nice guy pity he is being exposed for lack of pace but at the same time sithole with tones of it is not picked

  • Comment 7, posted at 29.04.13 10:07:14 by Poisy Reply
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  • The way Kyle is coming on in leaps and bounds, Bismarck may have some difficulty to dislodge him for 2 by the time he returns.

    Mtembu really impressed me in this game. I was not sure if it was a good thing taking him along on tour, but he really changed my mind. Some excellent support play, good covering at the back clever use of angles at close range to get over the advantage line.

    I do hope Plum keeps the starting team almost as is – except Cooper and JPP back in the starting line up.

  • Comment 8, posted at 29.04.13 10:08:44 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 6) : get over it. We only “bash” him when he’s crap.

  • Comment 9, posted at 29.04.13 10:10:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 6) :
    Why are you surprised? He played very well and rightly gets credit.

    You don’t expect him to get credit when he has been out of shape and poor, do you?

    Lets not forget how talented Frans is – no wonder the expectations are high.

  • Comment 10, posted at 29.04.13 10:12:36 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Rob Dylan continuing his very public love affair with Kyle Cooper.
    He has been good but nowhere near the ‘next Bismark’ title some have given him.
    Good in the loose but lineout work is still iffy.

    Can we all agree that it is now time for Odwa to hang up his very old boots. It physically hurts me watching him trying to and failing to run round even the slowest of forwards.

    Steyn to 12, Lindeque to 13 JP and Mvovo back at wing. Please.

  • Comment 11, posted at 29.04.13 10:16:05 by John Galt Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 6) : No one said anything bad about Steyn in this article, and just because poeple believes he has been off form doesn’t mean there has been Steyn bashing.

    Then we should also say, Keegan, Marcell, Odwa, Burden Bashing, because they haven’t been playing well either and no one here has been quiet about it, oh and except for this week McLeod can be added to that list, even Jannie has been “bashed”.

  • Comment 12, posted at 29.04.13 10:16:30 by Letgo Reply
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  • @John Galt (Comment 11) : Bismarck’s lineout work battles to reach the “acceptable” mark too… open the other eye. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 13, posted at 29.04.13 10:17:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • My only worry is that the best “backline” move was executed by a hooker, two props and finished off by a loose forward. Herbst dummy and pass puts our centres to shame.

  • Comment 14, posted at 29.04.13 10:17:50 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @John Galt (Comment 11) : Bissie has truggled at lineout time himself.

    Kyle deserves the praise, but I fit again Bismark will undoubtedly come straight back into the team. IMO

  • Comment 15, posted at 29.04.13 10:17:56 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 5) : you are right and with the benefit of hindsight, I’ve given Pat an extra point. He probably would have got 8 if he’d got all his kicks.

    As for Wors (and you know I love the kid), he didn’t do enough carrying work to warrant a high rating as a loose head. I know there’s mitigation at play here, but we need to be consistent. If Beast had been as “quiet” as a carrier, we’d have given him 4 at most.

  • Comment 16, posted at 29.04.13 10:19:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 14) :

    No the best backline play was executed by McLeod, Lambie and Mtembu from a scrum. IMO

  • Comment 17, posted at 29.04.13 10:19:45 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 15) : It will only do Bismarck good to have some decent competition for his position.

  • Comment 18, posted at 29.04.13 10:20:30 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 8) : fully agree with you! KD should perhaps be told what was spoken to Kanko and sent home.

    Rob, is it true but rumours on other sites are that Alberts is on his way to NZ?

  • Comment 19, posted at 29.04.13 10:20:55 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 17) : I agree Lambie did really well on that one – glimpses of what he can do if he attacks the line. However he needs support runners off him – which Tera provided this time.

    Granted 9 and 10 involved in that one – but not really a full back line move.

  • Comment 20, posted at 29.04.13 10:31:59 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • It took an almost brand-new Sharks side 20 minutes to settle down and play some damn good rugby. Unfortunately, those 20 minutes cost us the game.

    A few observations:

    1) This is the first time this season that our back row has had any sense of balance to it. Deysel-Mtembu-Minnie worked together very well.

    2) An out of shape, out of form and out of position Frans Steyn showed us that Paul Jordaan has been very disappointing this season. Steyn had some defensive lapses (including letting Nanai-Williams in for a try), but he showed us what a creative outside centre could add to our backline.

    3) Keegan Daniel is an exceptionally talented footballer, but he seems to get rushes of blood to the head and leaves 3 points on the table. I’m not sure he is the answer for the captaincy.

    4) If Odwa is too old and has lost pace, why is his twin brother Akona still performing so well for the Bulls?

    All in all, this is stilla very good Sharks side, just in need of a few tweaks here and there.

  • Comment 21, posted at 29.04.13 10:32:05 by josefgremlin Reply

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  • @josefgremlin (Comment 21) : welcome to the site!

  • Comment 22, posted at 29.04.13 10:41:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 19) : which sites?

    Look, it’s possible that they could opt to make the brainfart decision to send Alberts in place of Reinach. I mean, having only one scrumhalf, but 6 loose forwards in a group of 26 makes massive sense.

  • Comment 23, posted at 29.04.13 10:42:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • Lets be honest shuffel Bosman has been poor for the past few games, hopefully we get Steyn for weekend and with Lindque at 13, JP and Movo back we could look dangerous again.
    Tera was the shiiizzzle…I would beep Keegan on the bench and play him as a impact player

  • Comment 24, posted at 29.04.13 10:47:07 by Tintin Reply

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  • @Tintin (Comment 24) : Mvovo won’t be fit for this weekend

  • Comment 25, posted at 29.04.13 10:56:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : πŸ˜† right now, with this management nothing is impossible! πŸ™‚

  • Comment 26, posted at 29.04.13 11:00:34 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @josefgremlin (Comment 21) : Akona receives the ball near the opposition’s tryline where Odwa tends to get it closer to ours. That will ensure that we are able to see just how slow he is.

  • Comment 27, posted at 29.04.13 11:00:50 by King Shark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 25) : thats a shame, would like to then see S’bura given a chance, Odwa seems to have lost his score knack from the last few seasons and Im a fan of good old fashion gas for a winger

  • Comment 28, posted at 29.04.13 11:02:49 by Tintin Reply

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  • @Tintin (Comment 28) : So you must have been a Deon Oosthuysen fan back in the days.

  • Comment 29, posted at 29.04.13 11:07:16 by King Shark Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 29) : Speed is the first ingredient I would use when creating a good winger, running lines and hunger for work would be the next two

  • Comment 30, posted at 29.04.13 11:24:08 by Tintin Reply

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  • @King Shark (Comment 27) : I agree, I don’t think Akona is that fast either, maybe a little faster than Odwa, he’s broken his leg twice though

  • Comment 31, posted at 29.04.13 11:31:47 by Ludz Reply

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  • Bulls use the kick and chase and offensive-defence game more than we do. They dont play as much in brokenplay as we do. Different wing requirements.

  • Comment 32, posted at 29.04.13 11:37:32 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Bosman just not creative enough as a 12. The ball is simply shifting down the backline where Odwa and Lindique are expected to perform miracles. We are seriously missing a guy like Tim Whitehead who can keep opposition guessing.

  • Comment 33, posted at 29.04.13 11:45:05 by CapeShark Reply
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  • Lindque deserves more than a 5, there was little he could do with that slide to cover the ball….bounce of ball and all that.

    For the rest he stood out with that great run…..great balanced running. Start him at 13 next game with Frans at 12.

    Ntembu had a great debut

  • Comment 34, posted at 29.04.13 12:53:50 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 34) : Ntembu has to start again, with Deysel and Minnie our loosies are perfectly balanced

  • Comment 35, posted at 29.04.13 13:05:20 by Tintin Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 34) : Piet got 5 because he was basically anonymous in the first half. The slide was icing on the cake.

  • Comment 36, posted at 29.04.13 13:17:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 34) : @Tintin (Comment 35) : it’s Mtembu with an “M”

  • Comment 37, posted at 29.04.13 13:18:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : copy paste error!!!

  • Comment 38, posted at 29.04.13 13:28:55 by Tintin Reply

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  • @Tintin (Comment 38) : ja ja πŸ™‚

  • Comment 39, posted at 29.04.13 13:32:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) : Anonymous as he got no ball and remember he is a centre playing out of position on the wing.

    That run of his was the best of the match, hence my call for a higher rating

  • Comment 40, posted at 29.04.13 15:02:17 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 40) : ok fair enough. Look, the purpose of these ratings really isn’t to slate anyone. I’ve also long since given up on everyone agreeing with them πŸ™‚

    Let’s just say I was very encouraged with what I saw from Piet and I really hope he gets another chance this weekend.

  • Comment 41, posted at 29.04.13 15:06:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • Im going to go against the trend and say Lambie deserves a lower mark. Id give him a 6 and not a 7 for this reason:

    – that was a vast improvement from previous weeks on attack but as the commentators mentioned, he ran at the line twice and both times we gained significant ground (1 obviously a try assist).
    ONLY twice in 80minutes.

    He is the linchpin and the onus is on him to spark the attack!!!

    But that being said, his game management was good as always!!!

    AND CHARL MCLEOD WAS EXCELLENT -Deserved an 8 in my mind!! (And I have been a heavy Charl basher)

    Harsh to rain on Lindeque for a missed pick up like that – it is an oval ball after all!!!

  • Comment 42, posted at 29.04.13 15:59:26 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @josefgremlin (Comment 21) : Mate I fully agree on your views on Keegan!!!

    And also on the loose trio. Much more balanced with those 3!!!

    Also Deysel seems more calm in the skipper role

  • Comment 43, posted at 29.04.13 16:03:42 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • Yeah I disagree with Bosman and Minnie`s ratings.

    Without them we wouldn`t have had any ball at all to play with, should have been at least 8 each.

    As for Steyn`s 6, that certainly could`ve been much lower. He`s too slow for 13.

  • Comment 44, posted at 29.04.13 18:31:22 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 44) : Wrong Bosman was as average as ever, adds nothing with ball in hand. Frans’s 6 is spot on he had a good game

  • Comment 45, posted at 29.04.13 18:41:07 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 45) : Here`s a thought, why don`t we “rest” both of them next week and see how it goes? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    Just let me know well in advance so I can bet the house on the Highlanders for their first win of the season!

  • Comment 46, posted at 29.04.13 18:44:04 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • 😈 I must vent first: Like most NZ refs, Polock is sub, sub- standard!! The scrums kept on falling, side entries and off-sides at the break downs, skew line-outs, unclear penalties etc. No wonder he does not wear a TV mic. There, said it.
    I was very impressed with our game plan and our team. The Chiefs were under the protection of the god rugabuss and scored 3 soft tries. Our boys played as a team with some great off-loads and passes. I am proud of the recovery and the confidence!! Well played Sharks!
    However, I am worried about Jannie’s game. If Kanko’s sacking is the benchmark then Jannie is right down there.
    McLeod was great (8 -9) and as I predicted he gave Lambie and the rest plenty of time and space to execute attacks. No flashy stuff, just hard quick work. He had 1 bad high pass to Lambie, where Lambie then failed to clear the 25. Cobus is a force off the bench and made an immediate impact! (8) We had a great balance here and I hope Cobus is okay. Sorry Cobus!
    Lambie distributed great and we created ample opportunities to score and it is sad about the 2 missed goals. He did his FH duties very well. (8)
    Lindeque is on the verge of great rugby and exciting to watch with ball in hand. This boy will be renowned before the CC starts!
    Tera showed that he knows how to read the rhythm of the game and he popped up in the right channels! Great game man! (8)
    Viljoen MUST work on his clearance kicks. 3 kicks meant to take us out of our 25 failed to take the pressure off us and the Chiefs scored from 1 (or 2) of these kicks. Like Jannie and Odwa they need to get their mojo back in the VC before they qualify or a place in the senior squad. Come of you guys!!! 😈

  • Comment 47, posted at 29.04.13 21:36:57 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 46) : No need to rest Bosman, just drop him in total. He is poor

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