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Springbok Incoming Tour squad


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 1 Jun 2013 at 21:18
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The Springbok squad for the Incoming tours has been announced, with a few surprises included and excluded.

The overseas based players included in the squad are Francois Louw and Ruan Pienaar.

In terms of local players making the grade, Willie Le Roux, Jan Serfontein, Lourens Adriaanse, Pieter Labuschagne, Arno Botha and Trevor Nyakane are the surprises, along with Bismarck du Plessis’ inclusion even though he has played no rugby at all this year.

There is no space in the squad for Wiehahn Herbst, Raymond Rhule or Robert Ebersohn.

Forwards:
Lourens Adriaanse
Willem Alberts
Arno Botha
Marcell Coetzee
Bismarck du Plessis
Jannie du Plesiss
Pieter-Steph du Toit
Eben Etzebeth
Siya Kolisi
Juandre Kruger
Pieter Labuschagne
Frnacois Louw
Tendai Mtawarira
Trevor Nyakane
Coenie Oosthuizen
Chiliboy Ralepelle
Pierre Spies
Adriaan Strauss
Flip van der Merwe

Backs:
Gio Aplon
Bjorn Basson
Juan de Jongh
Jean de Villiers
JJ Engelbrecht
Bryan Habana
Francois Hougaard
Zane Kirchner
Pat Lambie
Willie le Roux
Lwazi Mvovo
Ruan Pienaar
Jan Sefontein
Morne Steyn
Jano Vermaak


55 Comments

  • Good squad..

    Reward for some form players.

    Happy to see Louw and Pienaar in the mix..

  • Comment 1, posted at 01.06.13 21:20:14 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Waiting for the critics. One or two weird picks, but overall I don’t think he could have done better.

  • Comment 2, posted at 01.06.13 21:28:30 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 2) :

    I agree

    There will be some who whinge about certain omissions or inclusions, but a balanced squad..

    Happy for some of the new comers, shows that form will be rewarded, means the guys will push a bit more!

  • Comment 3, posted at 01.06.13 21:30:25 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • He really did reward form.

  • Comment 4, posted at 01.06.13 21:30:33 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • I’m happy for Willie le Roux. Well deserved!

  • Comment 5, posted at 01.06.13 21:31:37 by Ben Reply
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  • Hey all on SW. Hope you are all well.

  • Comment 6, posted at 01.06.13 21:32:26 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 6) :

    Hey Ben!

    Long time no see, you enjoying the East?

  • Comment 7, posted at 01.06.13 21:33:06 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 7) : It’s awesome mate!

  • Comment 8, posted at 01.06.13 21:34:44 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 8) :

    Cool man! Enjoy!

  • Comment 9, posted at 01.06.13 21:35:45 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 9) : Thanks Richard. Hope all is well for you.

  • Comment 10, posted at 01.06.13 21:36:48 by Ben Reply
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  • I have to say, there aren’t very many changes I would have made. The only one that comes to mind is Gio Aplon.

  • Comment 11, posted at 01.06.13 21:57:25 by David12246 Reply

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  • Robert Ebersohn, what more does he have to do?

  • Comment 12, posted at 01.06.13 21:59:14 by Ludz Reply

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  • Yes Robert could be unlucky but Serfontein and de Villiers are playing not to bad either.

  • Comment 13, posted at 01.06.13 22:14:50 by JD Reply
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  • Good squad. The only selections I am not convinced about are Spies, Kirchner, Aplon, Basson and de Jongh.

    I feel for Brussouw

  • Comment 14, posted at 01.06.13 22:46:22 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 12) : Too small for test rugby and has done nothing of note in the past 5 games or so. Jean, Serfontein and JJ are all far better

  • Comment 15, posted at 01.06.13 22:47:43 by Saffex Reply

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  • Yes Saffex Brussouw should be there he’s been huge for the Cheetahs.

  • Comment 16, posted at 01.06.13 22:53:57 by JD Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 15) : Ever heard of Matt Gitaeu?? You telling me he didnt excel at test level. But yes dont know about Spies, Nicknacks and Basson….And obviously Brussow should be there!!!

  • Comment 17, posted at 02.06.13 03:34:23 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 3) : Yeah pretty balanced, more than usual. But still NO BRUSSOW. and we know we havnt beaten the ABs without him. If Louw is better thats fine, the Brussow to back him up. This theory of HM that fetchers are obsolete is insane. UHm Pocock, McCaw, Gill, George Smith, Hooper, OBrien, Warburton…etc.

    Disappointed Kanko isnt there, but couldnt realistically expect him to be selected, regardless of his ability.

    What would your match day squad look like Rich??

  • Comment 18, posted at 02.06.13 03:38:47 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • My personal selection from this group…My gameplan, my team haha:

    1. Beast
    2. Strauss
    3. Jannie
    4. PSDT
    5. Etzebeth
    6. Flow
    7. Kolisi (not an openside, musnt kid ourselves, but hard as nails)
    8. I DONT WANT TO PUT HIS NAME HERE – A MAN THAT BIG AND STRONG CANNOT BE THAT SOFT
    9. Pienaar
    10. Lambie (on his bad day offers more than Morne)
    11. Habana
    12. Serfontein/de Villiers
    13. Serfontein/de Villiers
    14. Mvovo (or swap the wingers around)
    15. Le Roux

    16. Bissie
    17. Coenie
    18. Nyakane – really impressed this season!!
    19. Flip
    20. Coetzee
    21. Vermaak
    22. Engelbrecht
    23. Basson/Aplon

  • Comment 19, posted at 02.06.13 03:44:34 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 19) : scratch that…Coetzee has been terrible all season. Id go for Lappies on the bench

  • Comment 20, posted at 02.06.13 05:08:20 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • You got to love the depth we have at centre all of a sudden. A couple of years ago we struggled if Fourie or de Villiers got injured. Now you can play any of Serfontein, Engelbrecht, Jean, de Jongh, Ebersohn and not be weakened. Not to mention if fit again you have Steyn, Whitehead and Jordaan also.

  • Comment 21, posted at 02.06.13 07:46:40 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 1) : Somehow though, looking at the 22 players Meyer will pick it won’t instill the same feeling of awe that one will get with the NZ team… and then I realised what it is, it’s not the players available so much as the coaching and outdated boring gameplan!

    A gameplan that makes Morne Steyn a “have to have” 😯

  • Comment 22, posted at 02.06.13 08:29:57 by CS Reply

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  • Can`t believe so many sharks were selected . . .
    Imagine what would`ve happened if we actually won a game this season . .

  • Comment 23, posted at 02.06.13 08:31:03 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 19) : The question is, is Meyer now going to start building for 2015, or is he still trying to win every game… or to limit damage against NZ and Aus?

    Cos I would pick the following for the incoming tour:
    1 Coenie
    2 Strauss (Captain)
    3 Jannie
    4 PSDT
    5 Eztebeth
    6 Flo
    7 ??? (Coetzee/Kolisi)
    8 Alberts
    9 Pienaar
    10 Lambie
    11 Mvovo
    12 Serfontein (These 2 centres have held their own this season)
    13 Engelbrecht
    14 Le Roux
    15 ??? (Aplon or Morne Steyn?)

    16 Bismark
    17 Beast
    18 Arno Botha/Spies
    19 ???
    20 DeVilliers
    21 Habana
    22 Vermaak

    This squad is weak at Fullback and back-up Lock? Flip is a walking penalty or yellow card when you least want it, so not an impact player… I’d rather move Alberts to lock if required and bring on another loosie.

    I also feel we’re going to miss JP Pietersen. Our wings are good but not brilliant. We need someone of Aplon’s skills with Mvovo’s size (Like the Kiwis have in abundance)

  • Comment 24, posted at 02.06.13 08:50:18 by CS Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 24) : It’s amazing to think that someone like Rene Ranger may not even make the Kiwi’s matchday squad… and yet I would pick him over any SA backline player in any position (except Flyhalf). It just shows you how lacking we are in true x-factor players… I think our guys have had it coached out of them?

  • Comment 25, posted at 02.06.13 08:54:13 by CS Reply

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  • I hear kanko has been sent to go play for the springbok sevens … Can only do him good … He’s lost that attacking flair that made him the player he was over the last season or two

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.06.13 09:15:45 by byron Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 19) : @CS (Comment 24) : This is the team I would pick from this squad:

    1. Beast
    2. Strauss
    3. du Plessis
    4. du Toit
    5. Etzebeth
    6. Louw
    7. Alberts
    8. Spies – He is better this year than last and we need a specialist 8.
    9. Pienaar
    10. Lambie
    11. Mvovo – He is powerful and on form.
    12. Serfontein
    13. de Villiers (c) – Good centre. Good captain.
    14. Habana – How can he be omitted from any Bok team? Even off form he is more valuable than any other wing in SA, and possibly even the world.
    15. le Roux – Aplon needs to stay away from test rugby. He is a walk-over on defense, and while he can run, he has no power.

    16. du Plessis
    17. Oosthuizen
    18. Herbst – You need a loose-head and a tight-head on the bench. Plus, Herbst is worthy.
    19. Kruger – You need proper lock cover…
    20. Labuschagne
    21. Hougaard
    22. Steyn
    23. Engelbrecht

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.06.13 09:31:28 by David12246 Reply

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  • @Saffex (Comment 14) : if he’s too small, than Brussouw is also too small

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.06.13 09:36:57 by Ludz Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 24) : Yeah man I know what you mean. He will probably stick to the conservative..

    But I like your team, it has pretty good balance.
    – I still question Coenie’s scrumming technique (inconsistent) and I simply dont rate Alberts as there is also only 1 dimension there. Prefer a #8 in the Kanko mould
    – agree with your centres comment (will de Villiers be there for the next world cup?? – not another Smite/Bissie issue I hope)
    – good backline but I would stick le Roux at fullback, and pick another wing with PACE…not the biggest Habs fan (cant question his workrate, but he has brain farts as evidence in the Kings game)

    I just feel if we can maintain our dominance at lineouts like in recent years…then we can rob opponents of territory and possession and set a platform for Lambie, Goosen, Serfontein, JJ, Jordaan, Whitehead, De jongh, etc and all the wings to run riot…

    That would be my game plan. Lineouts are essential…just add the creativity

  • Comment 29, posted at 02.06.13 10:00:59 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 28) : agreed

  • Comment 30, posted at 02.06.13 10:04:24 by Talent Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 29) : How can one not be a Habana fan?

  • Comment 31, posted at 02.06.13 10:51:53 by David12246 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 18) :

    I agree regarding Kanko, it was always going to count against him that he is not actually playing any rugby at the moment.

    As for my Match 23, I am still pondering that, so I will put up my team tomorrow..

  • Comment 32, posted at 02.06.13 12:28:27 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @David12246 (Comment 31) : I know it always surprizes people..But think about it.
    – He is a liability in defense (not by his tackling ability, but by his decision making.) and has been like this for 5 years now.
    – Frequent brain ‘farts’ as evidenced vs the Kings
    – and he is a winger who doesnt have a proper side step…ala Aplon, Mvovo, Pietersen, etc

    Never questioned his commitment and energy on the field

  • Comment 33, posted at 02.06.13 13:05:28 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 33) : Have you ever seen him give less than 110 %

    His work rate is impeccable. His lack of skill is worrying however…

  • Comment 34, posted at 02.06.13 13:50:00 by Talent Reply
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  • If I were bok coach;
    1.Beast
    2.Bismarck
    3.Jannie
    4.Bakkies
    5.McBeth
    6.Brussow
    7.Alberts
    8.Lappies (maybe?)
    9.Hougaard
    10.Lambie
    11.Jpp
    12.Rob Ebersohn
    13.Fourie
    14.Le Roux
    15.Ludick

  • Comment 35, posted at 02.06.13 13:56:38 by Talent Reply
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  • 16.Strauss
    17.Herbst
    18.Oosthuizen
    19.PSDT
    20.Kolisi
    21.Pienaar
    22.JDV
    23.F Steyn

  • Comment 36, posted at 02.06.13 13:59:11 by Talent Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 33) : @Talent (Comment 34) : I couldn’t disagree more about skill. He is the most SKILLFUL winger out there at the moment. He most certainly has a sidestep, a brilliant one! I do concede that he makes risky decisions, but they very often pay off. I don’t know, I reckon he is a legend of the game. Let’s just agree to disagree.

    @Talent (Comment 35) : Questionable team, I must say. The biggest question has to be… who the hell is McBeth?

  • Comment 37, posted at 02.06.13 15:03:05 by David12246 Reply

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  • @David12246 (Comment 37) : Etzebeth πŸ˜† Perhaps the reserves are questionable.

  • Comment 38, posted at 02.06.13 15:39:44 by Talent Reply
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  • @David12246 (Comment 37) : He is a legend and one of the better players to have played for the boks. What we are saying is that he lacks the ability to beat a man 1v1 with a step, goosestep or even just changing the direction and angle of his run .

  • Comment 39, posted at 02.06.13 15:42:36 by Talent Reply
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  • No matter who you pick, the game plan sadly stays the same πŸ™„

    The head coach irritates me, but his assistant coaches are the worst. Just as bad as Plum’s assistant coaches. 😑

  • Comment 40, posted at 02.06.13 16:43:11 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 40) : Especially the backline coach. On his achievements list there is like, one Vodacom Cup win or something. Bok worthy? Not at all! …and it shows.

  • Comment 41, posted at 02.06.13 16:49:15 by David12246 Reply

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  • @David12246 (Comment 41) : Too many forwards running (read ruining) rugby in SA.

    Only Mallet (being a forward) ever succeeded in successfully integrating forward and backline play into the Springboks game style.

    The problem with coaches is that they are actually intimidated by the caliber of the players they are coaching. They compensate for this with arrogance and power trips. Imo off course.

  • Comment 42, posted at 02.06.13 17:55:50 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 42) : You know what the problem is with HMs game-plan? He was expected to get the job back in 2008 instead of PdV. He almost certainly devised his game-plan then, and I am sure that he built the entire thing around Fourie du Preez. If you just watch our end of the year tour last year, our style of play is very du Preezesque. The reason it wasn’t REALLY working was because we had Pienaar at 9, who is good, but no du Preez. HM needs to have rewritten his game-plan, this time working to play far more off the flyhalf like everyone else in the world, because without du Preez, scrumhalf play doesn’t work as well.

  • Comment 43, posted at 02.06.13 18:01:15 by David12246 Reply

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  • Not exactly an awe-inspiring squad. Probably good enough to see off the Scots, Itals and Samoans, but AB’s to walk the RC again this year.

  • Comment 44, posted at 02.06.13 19:44:18 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @David12246 (Comment 43) : 100% correct. We’re once again behind the world of rugby.

  • Comment 45, posted at 02.06.13 20:56:18 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • @Talent (Comment 34) : That’s why I said I have never questioned his efforts or work rate on the field.
    @Talent (Comment 39) : Precisely..
    @David12246 (Comment 37) : Yeah a big disagree bro. You don’t see Habana sniping into a gap or bamboozling 3 or 4 defenders..he uses pace and determination (which is not a weakness at all, but I like a winger to have more)

  • Comment 46, posted at 03.06.13 02:59:02 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 35) : Hougie???? mmm only McLeod is behind him in the pecking order…Vermaak any day.

  • Comment 47, posted at 03.06.13 03:00:14 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • Comment 48, posted at 03.06.13 03:04:01 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 48) : yes that’s a generalization of Du Preez…He obviously wasn’t a bad player at all. just very 1-Dimensional in my opinion. A very good kick chase halfback, but that brought us a 65% win ratio didn’t it??

  • Comment 49, posted at 03.06.13 03:10:02 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • Willie le Roux should be very worried. HM has called him an x-factor player. Can you recall who else he called that?

  • Comment 50, posted at 03.06.13 08:06:17 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 50) : No, but I’m guessing they never made it into the match day 22 πŸ™„

  • Comment 51, posted at 03.06.13 08:26:01 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 51) : Keegan Daniel last year

  • Comment 52, posted at 03.06.13 08:26:51 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 52) : 😯

  • Comment 53, posted at 03.06.13 08:28:38 by FireTheLooser Reply

     
  • @pienaar111 (Comment 17) : He was a failure at centre, he only made an impression at flyhalf at test level.

  • Comment 54, posted at 03.06.13 22:10:02 by Saffex Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 28) : No he is not. A 102kg open side flanker is about standard size

  • Comment 55, posted at 03.06.13 22:11:29 by Saffex Reply

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