No Bok changes for Eden Park

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks, The Rugby Championship on 11 Sep 2013 at 09:09
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Heyneke Meyer has changed a match 23 to face New Zealand this weekend that is completely unchanged from the unit that embarrassed Australia in Brisbane last week, scoring a bonus point victory and overturning a strong of defeats in that city going back as far as 1971.

Speaking of his decision to make no changes, Meyers said that “continuity in selection has been something we wanted to address this year and I’m very happy that we’ve not been forced into making too many changes yet. The 23 who played against Australia deserved another chance this week as we believe in rewarding good form.

“I have faith in all the players in the squad and I feel we’ve now got to a situation where any player can come in at any stage without too much disruption.”

Captain Jean de Villiers extends his own record as South Africa’s most-capped centre ever, with his 75th appearance in the position this week. He’ll be playing in his 91st test overall.

South Africa: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Willie le Roux, 13 JJ Engelbrecht, 12 Jean de Villiers (captain), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Flip van der Merwe, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Substitutes: 16 Adriaan Strauss , 17 Gurthrö Steenkamp, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19 Juandré Kruger, 20 Siya Kolisi, 21 Jano Vermaak, 22 Pat Lambie, 23 Jan Serfontein


  • Jean has been great since he became captain.

    Can’t really argue with continuity when they performed like they did the match before.

    This one will be much harder than the Aussies though.

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.09.13 09:21:11 by Letgo Reply
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  • Can this really be the 91st test for Jean? How old is he then? Will he make the next WC?

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.09.13 09:22:55 by R Hayward Reply

  • @Letgo (Comment 1) : I agree. He really is proving his worth, and actually playing better too.

    @R Hayward (Comment 2) : He is my age, I know this as I played against him as Paarl gym. That will make him 32 😀

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.09.13 09:54:06 by Uli Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 3) : 32 years (February 24, 1981)

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.09.13 10:06:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 3) : Dan moes jy mos kom instaan het by die saaaaks in times of need!!!

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.09.13 10:12:16 by R Hayward Reply

  • I like the continuity. Can’t argue with it when we played that well against the Wallies. I have to wonder though, where is Meyer going to feel comfortable putting Lambie in if it’s a close game (which it certainly will be) if he puts him in at all. I hate to say it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the poor guy doesn’t get any game time against the All Blacks.

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.09.13 10:15:40 by David12246 Reply

  • @David12246 (Comment 6) : It seems to me that Meyer views Lambie as a handy utility player to have on his bench. I can’t argue with his utility value but as much as I enjoyed last week’s game I still felt Kirchner brought very little besides stability to the back 3 and would prefer Lambie replace him. I salivate at the idea of both Lambie and le Roux popping up everywhere in the backline and running off each other.

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.09.13 10:26:51 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @David12246 (Comment 6) : How comfortable will Meyer feel to put Lambie in if Morne gets an early injury? That’s his own fault, should be giving Lambie more game time when possible. He’s digging a whole for himself – I think Lambie will be fine, but you never know with the time he’s been spending on the bench.

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.09.13 10:28:19 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 8) : a whole what? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.09.13 10:44:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • Lambie needs to make all his kicks to touch ,developing a nasty habit of not clearing the ball. His general game is far superior to Morne Steyns.

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.09.13 10:57:48 by Talent Reply
  • Maybe I’m wrong but Lambie’s playing style is completely different to MS, the coach has a specific game plan that encompasses MS style which is why Lambie sits ‘n waits on the sidelines. I suspect HM is too conservative – especially against the AB to go for Lambie.Dunno my opinion anyway…

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.09.13 11:07:09 by Caratacus Reply

  • Here’s a headscratcher. I think most people agree that Jean de Villiers is doing a really good job at 12 (nevermind the fact that he’s shaping into a decent Bok captain too) and Engelbrecht is coming along really nicely at 13. Add to that the fact that we have the up and coming Jan Serfontein on the bench to cover 12.

    Where does this leave Frans Steyn when he finally returns from injury? Should he ride the bench or should he move to fullback? (I’d personally want him or Lambie at fullback in the current setup)

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.09.13 11:22:32 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 12) : Ja. Not sure where he’d slot in. With that 6 million dollar man boot of his i’d probably put him at fullback. Would not leave him out the side that’s for sure.

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.09.13 11:33:15 by gregkaos Reply
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  • I think with our distinct lack of fullbacks (especially ones who play in South Africa) that will possibly be his most likely spot. However, I don’t think he should be looking to get a cap again until next June. I think he needs a nice season of Super Rugby to get his fitness and his skills back to their best! 😀

    That being said he makes a nice bench player since he can realistically cover positions 10-15. But when he’s playing at the level we know he can, we need him in the starting 15.

    Also, I can see JDV retiring after 2015 RWC so he may need to cover 12 again.

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.09.13 11:34:48 by SeanyJMc Reply

  • @vanmartin (Comment 12) : Frans Steyn at fullback and Lambie at 10. The two know each other and with the decent backline we -can – have would make an explosive bok squad.

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.09.13 11:38:05 by Caratacus Reply

  • @Caratacus (Comment 15) : I hear what you’re saying and would love to see them being given a run but I think we should start putting aside the idea of Lambie starting at 10 during this Rugby Championship. Unless there’s an injury to MS it’s just not gonna happen and as much as I’m a Lambie fan I can’t really fault Meyer on rewarding Morne’s form and being consistent in his selection.

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.09.13 11:43:02 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : At least I know what I did wrong. 😳

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.09.13 15:07:54 by Letgo Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 7) : @Letgo (Comment 8) : I agree with both of you.

    @Letgo (Comment 8) : Meyer will not at all feel comfortable. It’s a bit of a moot point though because Morné Steyn barely takes any contact and therefore doesn’t get injured. Then again, Murphy’s law, if Steyn was to get injured it would happen against the All Blacks.

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.09.13 19:19:29 by David12246 Reply

  • I would have Steyn at fullback to be honest, it’s always been his best. Even after the World Cup I think it would be good for Serfontein if he wasn’t competing with Steyn. (And anything to get Kirchner out!)

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.09.13 19:21:41 by David12246 Reply

  • Here’s some interesting information (that may not be 100% accurate but for the most part should be roughly correct). Most people are raving about how big the Bok pack is, and it is, but how much bigger than the others? (This is from this past week)
    (Team – Tight 5, Starting 8, Total 13)
    Springboks – 587, 935, 1506
    All Blacks – 590, 922, 1483
    Wallabies – 586, 903, 1449
    Pumas – 564, 869, 1438

    We aren’t actually all that much bigger than the All Blacks…

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.09.13 19:43:00 by David12246 Reply

  • @David12246 (Comment 19) : JDV is no 12 ,played,if you could call it that, mostly at 13,so really.Simply put Frans Steyn is the best 12 and he will be again when they post his A game from Paris to him,Racing Metro payed huge money for Frans at 12,yes he did cover at 15 for them as no one alse could,but they wanted and paid for the best 12

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.09.13 20:52:10 by benji Reply
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  • David12246 it’s not all about size, but more about how they use it. With Bissy, Eben and Flip Bokke got lots of fire in thight 5 and then they use the size and that’s what matters.

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.09.13 21:08:31 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 22) : Right, of course. Still interesting, though.

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.09.13 01:16:09 by David12246 Reply


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