King Carlos to join EP Rugby

Written by Pierre McLeod (pierre_mackie)

Posted in :EP Kings, Original Content on 10 Dec 2013 at 17:12
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It was confirmed today that former New Zealand flyhalf, Carlos Spencer, will be joining the EP Kings as a back line and skills training coach in 2014 on a five year contract.

Spencer who played for the Auckland Blues from 1996 to 2005 signed with English club, Northampton Saints before moving to Johannesburg in 2010 to play for the Super Rugby francise, The Lions, during the 2010/2011 season.

In 2006 Spencer was awarded the Player of the Year award for the 2005-06 season at the Northampthon Saints and played four matches for the World XV team in 2006. Spencer was also part of the 2003 Rugby World Cup Third Place New Zealand squad.

“We are excited to see what Carlos can do with our team and are sure that he will be a positive asset to the coaching structures”, said EP Rugby CEO Charl Crous.


  • Surprised that the Sharks didn’t make a move, but I guess Jake has his sights set on someone else – and someone on a less permanent basis than I’m sure Carlos was after…

  • Comment 1, posted at 10.12.13 19:43:17 by MerckZ Reply
  • Glad to see him still involved with sa rugby.

  • Comment 2, posted at 10.12.13 19:44:38 by 50shadesofblackandwhite Reply
  • @MerckZ (Comment 1) : thought he would assist at ukzn (joining john mitchell).

  • Comment 3, posted at 10.12.13 19:55:23 by 50shadesofblackandwhite Reply
  • @MerckZ (Comment 1) : We already have a backline coach that has served the Sharks well.

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.12.13 11:36:18 by GreatSharksays Reply
  • Good luck to Spencer. It’s just a pity the Kings are being given a raw deal. They’re in a catch 22 situation… automatic promotion to CC on condition that they agree not to contest for a SR spot in 2015 and by the way, the automatic promotion to CC is only valid for year, meaning should they finish in the bottom two, they have fight it out with the likes of Boland for a spot. How are they meant to attract and keep players in the region?

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.12.13 11:43:14 by GreatSharksays Reply
  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 5) :

    How do you expect them top stay up if they did not earn a spot in the CC in the 1st place .

    Maybe they should go learn from the Pumas

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.12.13 12:08:31 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 4) : I’m aware of that, but I meant as some sort of ad hoc skills coach. Or, as 50shadesofblackandwhite said, in some capacity with UKZN.

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.12.13 12:51:23 by MerckZ Reply

  • Great for the Kings!!!!

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.12.13 13:06:11 by KingsArmy Reply

  • According to this proposal, the EP Kings would gain automatic promotion if they agreed not to play the last-placed SA Super Rugby team in promotion-relegation matches next year, while Griquas – who were relegated by the Pumas – would have to fight it out for the remaining spot with the other smaller unions in a tournament that could be played after next year’s Vodacom Cup.

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.12.13 13:10:12 by KingsArmy Reply

  • The 14 unions are again talking cc. The lions really need Kings in the cc, with the pro/rel games hanging over their heads they are battling to sign players and sponsers for s15. Its never nice when someone gets a free ride, but right now I think the Kings getting a free ride is in the best interest of SA. Having the Kings play in cc and s15 is better than having kwotas. About 11 out of kings u/21 starting 15 was black this year. Sergel and Kolisi can only be the tip of the iceberg…..

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.12.13 13:18:34 by KingsArmy Reply

  • It seems Border is now the lone voice against the new proposal…..

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.12.13 13:53:36 by KingsArmy Reply

  • Grey High from PE just returned unbeaten from their 5 match UK tour. Nice!!

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.12.13 13:56:45 by KingsArmy Reply

  • @KingsArmy (Comment 12) : Yeah I followed that Grey tour here in the UK. They look to have a good side. They beat the impressive Millfield school 37-35 and beat the London Irish Academy side.

    Good results for Grey. Millfield are the Grey Bloem of England, big rugby school that always has a good or great side. This years side is not as strong as previous years but still a good side.

    They played at my son’s schools rugby festival as they do every year and usually end up contesting the final, which they did not do this year. My son’s school won the festival.

    Gavin Hastings son, plays 12 for Millfield.

    Another SA schools side that toured was Dr EG Jansen, they were ranked 5th in 2013, but clearly are not nearly as strong leading into 2014 as they have lost all their matches heavily on tour. They were meant to play my son’s school but they cancelled at the last minute and went to Dublin instead.

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.12.13 14:53:14 by Saffex Reply

  • @KingsArmy (Comment 11) : Border need to do the honourable thing and just vote themselves off the damn island already.

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.12.13 15:04:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Saffex (Comment 13) : I hear what makes this Grey tour even more impressive is that they took mostly u/16 and u/17 boys on tour and played against u/18 teams

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.12.13 15:40:14 by KingsArmy Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : Rumor has it border has also close down their academy, because money for the academy went strait to the academy and not through the union to the academy. [Maybe they first want to skim a little of the top before it gets passed on,lol].

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.12.13 15:46:59 by KingsArmy Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : Not sure why they even bothered to show up for the promotion/relegation with Griquas, let alone actually prepare and try to win. They should have just been happy with their lot and stayed out of the premier division. :mrgreen: 😛 😉

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.12.13 17:43:02 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 17) : I was talking about Border, not the Pumas 🙂

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.12.13 18:06:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 18) : 😀 Oh yeah!!! 😳

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.12.13 18:30:48 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • bulldogs…..pumas……same thing right? 😳 😳

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.12.13 18:32:29 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 20) : more or less, yeah 🙂

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.12.13 20:33:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KingsArmy (Comment 15) : Yeah there were only 5 or so players from their 2013 squad, so bodes well for 2014…….will be interesting to see where they end up in the rankings in 2014

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.12.13 23:22:28 by Saffex Reply

  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 17) : OK I am confused. The Pumas, the ones from Witbank, showed up for the promotion relegation match and won promotion to the Premier Division of the Currie Cup, which is what every Rugby Union would aspire to. Border who play out of East London and not to be confused with the team that plays out of PE or strangely enough the team that plays out of Witbank didn’t show up for any promotion game. I don’t think with a 7th out of 8 finish they can hope for anything but their lot in the First Div.

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.12.13 10:15:49 by markp Reply

  • @markp (Comment 23) : Yeah, I was a little confused about all of that too?

  • Comment 24, posted at 12.12.13 10:24:16 by Greg Reply

  • Maybe Dancing Bear should sit the next song out. Lol. In his defense these small unions can be confusing.

  • Comment 25, posted at 12.12.13 10:44:01 by KingsArmy Reply

  • I truly hope the cc go up to 8 teams. A cc without griekwas will be poorer for it. They always send one or two big teams home with their tails between their legs and is a big plus for the cheetahs. Would hate to see the tahs fall back to being mediocre after the awesome year they had.

  • Comment 26, posted at 12.12.13 10:50:32 by KingsArmy Reply


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