Lions have fresh injury concerns

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Lions, Original Content, Super Rugby on 3 Feb 2014 at 10:57
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According to a report on Rugby365, two Lions players appear to have picked up serious injuries during Saturday’s narrow 19-12 victory over the Southern Kings in PE.

Fullback Andries Coetzee, who missed the bulk of the 2013 season due to a shoulder injury sustained while on loan to the Sharks, seems to have picked up a serious knee ligament injury, while lock Rudi Mathee, who appeared on the verge of finally making an impact in Super Rugby after years of being “almost there”, may have suffered an arm fracture.

Both players will go for further scans to confirm the nature of the injuries.


  • The risk of these warm-up games. I hope the players from both teams can get through Friday’s game without injuries.

    BTW is this Lions/ Sharks game being televised?

  • Comment 1, posted at 03.02.14 11:19:04 by Pokkel Reply
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  • My biggest wish and hope for this season is, that we don not suffer any serious injuries and play with our full strength and best sides in all the competitions

  • Comment 2, posted at 03.02.14 11:42:43 by Observer Reply

  • HM and VictorM all over the papers about winning the world cup in 2015. So he will start with Bakkies and Flip on the bench. All F.. bulls. What about our great talented youngsters like PSDT, Eben etc. So sad!

  • Comment 3, posted at 03.02.14 11:45:32 by Observer Reply

  • @Observer (Comment 3) : Yip, sad that the younger talent gets overlooked. They will all feel discourage and leave to play overseas

  • Comment 4, posted at 03.02.14 11:54:35 by TheLegend Reply
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  • Save your despair for later in the season. There’s still a lot of water that needs to pass underneath this particular bridge

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.02.14 12:15:30 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Don’t cry over something that haven’t happened yet. S15 is very long…..

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.02.14 12:46:38 by KingsArmy Reply

  • until they outshine VM in the super rugga tournament

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.02.14 12:48:56 by Dunx Reply

  • That is sad news re Andries Coetzee, I really rate this lad, big loss for the Lions…..he and Stokkies Hanekom are by far their best backs

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.02.14 14:19:02 by Saffex Reply

  • Was it a stroke of genius when Jake White brought back Os for the 2007 RWC team? Let’s face it, during his time, Os was the best 1 in world rugby, he deserved that chance and proved it with his superb performances leading up to and in RWC 2007. As much as we all, as Sharks supporters dislike VM, let’s face it, he too, in his day was the best 5 in world rugby. He should be given the same opportunity Os was. Have this argument after a season of Superugby. 😉

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.02.14 20:22:56 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 9) : Well said. Lets be happy we arent stuck with Juandre Kruger any longer.

    My only concern is that Matfield has reached his best, whereas PSDT has not, and may not in time for the next world cup if VM is played ahead of him. PSDT, given the same exposure, may leapfrog Matfield, but we will probably not get to see this…

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.02.14 20:34:53 by Talent Reply
  • @Talent (Comment 10) : PSDT has not yet started at 5 for the Boks, yet I read a quote attributed to Meyer that said that behind PSDT our stocks at 5 are very thin, and that is why he was welcoming this return by VM. Now, some will read this as purely he wants VM back to start at 5 and probably captain the Boks. But what I read into this is he now sees PSDT as our starting 5 and feels that VM is needed to fill the void in the backup role. Who knows who will leapfrog who, but I have this feeling we may see more of PSDT in green and gold than we think sooner than we thing, assuming he maintains his high standards.

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.02.14 20:49:06 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 11) : I wonder if there would still have been talk of Matfield returning had PSDT moved to the Bulls….

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.02.14 20:55:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : hehehe who knows, I just think that VM deserves the chance to come back. Look, I despised VM when he was playing for the Bulls, but seriously, who has been better as a Bok 5 over a career?

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.02.14 21:08:20 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 13) : ja, for sure, but let’s also remember that Os and Percy were in their early 30s when Jake brought them back… feeling was that both had retired earlier than they should have.

    Victor is 36…. that’s the age at which you should retire, finish and klaar. Him and Bakkies between them ensured that we developed ZERO depth at lock for the better part of half a decade. And now our response to that is to bring them back for some more? Crazy…

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.02.14 21:10:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : A similar argument could be made in the case of Os. We had very little at loosehead depth either, which resulted in the experiment of John Smit at 1 after Os’ departure. Based on your argument, the bringing back of Os was also crazy…….just saying. Playing a little of devil’s advocate here, but I do believe VM deserves a chance to prove himself once again worthy. I am not sure that the lack of depth in a position is an indictment of a national coach’s team selections…..just saying. 😉

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.02.14 21:14:54 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 15) : And let’s face it, our depth at tighthead has not been anything to boast about. Other than Jannie, not a single TH has really put their hand up when given their chance in national colours.

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.02.14 21:18:53 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Andries Coetzee suffered a medial cruciate ligament tear (knee) and will be out for approximately six weeks. Loan lock Rudi Mathee has also been ruled out for eight weeks after fracturing his arm.

    Tweet from Coetzee: Only a gr 2 MCL .. luckily no operation… 4-6 weeks .. thanks for the support

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.02.14 21:53:35 by Baylion Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : Oh and Rob, not to be picky, but Os was 35 in 2007. Again, I am not advocating anything, all I am saying is let’s see how VM performs over a Superugby season and then see. If he is able to rekindle the spark, then that is good for SA Rugby, if not, hopefully he will not be selected. I just think that our provincialism is blinding us just a bit when it comes to VM and Meyer for that matter. Let’s face it, PSDT can certainly benefit from having a VM to learn from, even if that is with PSDT in a starting role and VM on the bench.

  • Comment 18, posted at 04.02.14 03:06:24 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 18) : I agree if Vic can still prove his worth as a player, (and be at least the second best 5 lock in the country), by all means select him as a Bok.

    However I don’t subscribe to the theory that a player should be on the bench just to mentor a younger player. I can see a player on the field mentoring the young ones, e.g. a Bakkies next to PSDT has merit.

    However having Vic as a lineout coach would do more for PSDT (or any other young lock) than having him on the bench. The only way I would want to see Vic in Bok colors is if he really still is one of the 2 top no 5 locks in the country.

  • Comment 19, posted at 04.02.14 09:19:48 by Bokhoring Reply
  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 18) : DB, that means Os made his comeback at 32-33 and played on until 35, before retiring.

    Very different to making a comeback at 36, then playing on until 38-39

  • Comment 20, posted at 04.02.14 10:20:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • What would be crazy is not bringing VM back and PSDT gets injured just before the worldcup. Flip wasn’t bad last year, but he’s not world class at 5 either. [PS:PSDT had some great cc games, but haven’t prove anything yet]

  • Comment 21, posted at 04.02.14 10:26:21 by KingsArmy Reply

  • @KingsArmy (Comment 21) : I wish everyone would stop blowing smoke up his ass, then (Meyer being the main culprit).

    Pieter-Steph is a 22-year-old with a lot of talent, sure, but as you say, he’s not really proved anything yet. Why does Meyer have to keep telling the media that this kid is “the future of the game at 5” when his own actions prove that he doesn’t really believe that.

  • Comment 22, posted at 04.02.14 10:30:36 by robdylan Reply
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