Sharks player ratings v Reds

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 17 Mar 2014 at 10:05
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Once again it’s time to run the rule over the Sharks, after recording a decent win over the Reds. As was the case against the Lions, the Sharks were in total control of proceedings for just about an hour, but allowed concentration and discipline to slip in a bad patch after half time that could have cost them the game.

It’s getting rather boring to award the team 7/10 every week and this time around, my genuine feeling is that as a unit, they weren’t quite at the same level as they have been in previous weeks. That said, it’s really unfair to be too hard on the team when they’re winning every game by a margin of 15 points. On to the individual ratings.

1) Beast Mtawarira. A decent enough game, with my feeling being that the ref perhaps didn’t give him enough for his dominance at scrum time. Made a few carries, but none that really made all that much ground. 7/10
2) Bismarck du Plessis. A performance that at one stage looked like it would win a ratings of 8 or more, but it’s to me rather concerning that whatever malaise is responsible for the Sharks’ group disappearing act at times seems to affect the captain just as badly. I want to see him stepping up more and taking control. 7/10
3) Jannie du Plessis. No issues with his overall performance, which was about on par with what we’ve come to expect. I do have a real problem with players swearing at match officials (regardless of how incompetent they are) and I feel that if Lourens van der Merwe actually had any balls, Jannie would have spent at least 10 minutes rethinking his approach. 5/10
4) Anton Bresler. A solid showing, marked by safe taking of his own lineout ball and the customary yeoman work on defence. Bresler is the undoubted workhorse in the pack, meaning that much of what he brings isn’t immediately obvious to the camera. 7/10
5) Setphan Lewies. Given that his primary goal is to secure his own lineout ball, he passed with flying colours. What’s more, the Sharks only lost a single lineout on own throw te whole game, meaning Lewies must have done a pretty decent job of arranging that set piece. I also saw a few reasonable carries, where his safe hands came to the fore. 7/10
6) Marcell Coetzee. A simple one to rate. Coetzee was breathtaking. 9/10
7) Willem Alberts. Just what we need him for – strong arm tactics! Against a team that doesn’t really boast much in terms of physicality in the back row, a player like Alberts can be a godsend if used right. He has a busy 50 minutes indeed, tying up defenders and making his trademark huge tackles all over the show. 8/10
8) Ryan Kankowski. A bit of a quieter game from Hoff, who is reveling in the rough stuff this season but is yet to really make his mark with that incredible pace we’ve come to now and love. 7/10

9) Cobus Reinach. It’s consistency that we want from Reinach and I fear that Saturday’s performance was just a little too much of an “off day” for him. Fumbles at the base when the forwards ahve worked so hard for the ball are not on at this level. 5/10
10) Pat Lambie. For the second match in a row, he returned a perfect place kicking record while putting in superb work on defence. It wasn’t flashy from Pat, but about the only error I can recall in 80 minutes was one penalty that didn’t find touch. 8/10
11) Lwazi Mvovo. Another solid performance, but a week when he hadn’t all that much to do. 7/10
12) Frans Steyn. Kicked two massively important long penalties, but was otherwise a little off-colour. Lacked variation on attack and was caught out on defence once or twice too. 6/10
13) S’bura Sithole. A showing that meets expectations for a veteran in the outside centre position. Since it was his first game in the position, we thought he was outstanding! 8/10
14) JP Pietersen. Stepped right into the breach and slotted back in like he’s never been away. A true veteran and leader in the team and a guy on whom we will lean heavily in the weeks to come. 7/10
15) SP Marais. Another guy to have an iffy game, with SP’s instincts to attack all the time perhaps his undoing on a few occasions. Created a few too many pressure situations in Sharks’ 22 by trying to run when a kick would have been better. 5/10

16) Kyle Cooper. Seriously, a total of two minutes in four games is an insult to a player of his calibre.
17) Dale Chadwick. Scrummed well, carried well, scored a try. Good enough for me! 8/10
18) Lourens Adriaanse. A very good scrumming performance. Less flashy stuff around the field, but that’s ok if he’s doing his primary job so well. 7/10
19) Etienne Oosthuizen. I didn’t see too much of him in the 20 minutes he was on, save for one heart-stopping moment when a tackle he attempted could have attracted the wrath of the officials. I realise he was brought in at short notice, but we want better discipline and more intensity. 5/10
20) Tera Mtembu. In a great 25-minute cameo, showed exactly why the coaches rate him so highly. He simply never looks out of place at this level. 7/10
21) Charl McLeod. Only on for 10, but put in a reasonable showing in that time. 7/10
22) Heimar Williams. Not on long enough to rate.
23) Jaco van Tonder. Not on long enough to rate.


  • Good showing by Chadwick, I just hope he becomes more consistent. I would also like to see more of Van Tonder, he looks like a lad that’s hungry for success

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.03.14 10:10:27 by KingRiaan Reply
  • Agree its hard to mark down a team that wins by 15 but I would still rate the team performance at 6/10 and adjust the individuals accordingly…with Marcell still pushing for a 9 in any case. And again, I must praise him for the way he has developed his game this year. I gave him plenty of stick last year!!!

    Our biggest concern as a unit, and one that seems to have gone unnoticed, is how are scrum is being equalled or dominated more often than what we would like. Scrum success numbers prove this point…

    For the individuals only a few concerns…Bissie being the biggest. Given that we generally rate him at 8 or 9, his performances so far have been sub par!!! A consistent #9 still evades us…

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.03.14 10:20:36 by pienaar111 Reply
  • πŸ‘Ώ Come now – give Reinach a 5 and Steyn – despite his two long range penalties = a 6 is not on. Steyn at best should be a 5 as well. He spilled the ball that ultimately resulted in Genia’s try and cost his side by giving away two penalties – one converted by Cooper and other one virtually in front of the posts – where the Reds decided to go for a corner kick instead – putting further pressure on the Sharks. A 4 would in fact be appropriate.

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.03.14 10:23:48 by Michael Reply
  • @Michael (Comment 3) : I’m guessing you know him from school and he stole your girlfriend?

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.03.14 10:26:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) :
    We see so many axes being ground here. Time to open a blacksmithing shop?

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.03.14 10:36:08 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Jannies attitude is unacceptable.
    He should have been given a yellow.

    Ive heard he has a massive attitude problem in the change room these days as well.
    Sort you shit out Jannie.

  • Comment 6, posted at 17.03.14 10:41:44 by John Galt Reply

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  • In any event, it’s a funny thing, but usually the team that wins competitions is the one that wins some games badly, as opposed to the one that loses them well. As Sharks fans, we are used to the latter – I would rather become accustomed to the former – like the Crusaders fans.

    Not a vintage performance (although I thought Marcel was superhuman and JP and Sbura phenomenal), but we beat a good team, despite losing 4 key players suddenly, of which 2 are vice captains.

    In addition, we had to field a rookie 5, a 4 still getting into the swing of things after months on the sidelines, and another rookie lock substitute. Add to that a new 10-12-13 combination and some degree of disruption (including on defence in the midfield) doesn’t look quite so unexpected.

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.03.14 10:42:39 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Chadwick made that try. He went through 3 guys for a great try! Congrats! I do feel the Reds got away with some negative play at times and it made it difficult for our guys to block all the holes and stay straight in the scrums. They must have thrown a six pack of skew lineouts at least.
    My only beef is with the fact that we again struggle to get the ball out of our 25. We must improve on this.

    On Jannie: That was a friendly discussion between him and the ref. Time was off and they obviously know one another. They both forgot that the mic was on. I do not believe he meant any disrespect. It was rather an opinion session alla Sharksworlds blogging.

  • Comment 8, posted at 17.03.14 10:50:45 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Sorry, off topic – but any match report coming on the Vodacom Cup side game?

  • Comment 9, posted at 17.03.14 10:52:45 by stevovo Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 7) : Yip! I knew we would loose some momentum. That is the flip side of the CC rotation policy though.

  • Comment 10, posted at 17.03.14 10:54:01 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • Any word on Alberts’ hand?

  • Comment 11, posted at 17.03.14 10:58:03 by Son Of Mayhem Reply
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  • Awesome to be able to support a team that can play badly for long periods, but still have the skill and experience to turn up the heat when needed and win matches by 15 points.

    Marcel Coetzee you are an inspiration, fully deserve that 9/10 rating. Great to see JP looking like he is really enjoying being back in a Sharks rugby jersey.

    @Michael….there is no way on earth that frans Steyn deserved a 4/10 rating.

    Finally, there’s no 6 Nations thread, so I’ll say it here: Congrats to Ireland’s forwards coach John Plumtree on winning the 6 Nations, really pleased for you plum!

  • Comment 12, posted at 17.03.14 11:02:34 by jonnow Reply

  • I think a +1 should be added for SP’s kick to JP…man that thing was crazy

  • Comment 13, posted at 17.03.14 11:12:53 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @stevovo (Comment 9) : yes, I will get one up today

  • Comment 14, posted at 17.03.14 11:14:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • Agree with most of your scores and comments.
    I went and watched both games and have the following general observations.
    S15 and VC side won all of their matches to date – Great ! Go Boys!
    The day our S15 team fires as a unit some poor team will not know what hit them.
    Our backline defence should wake up!
    The 20 minute after halftime lapse shit should stop.
    The raging debate about Frans is crazy. What would we do without him. He was the man of the match last week!
    Our boys team and coaches should not become arrogant – Early days boys.
    I eat my words on Lewies if he “pulls his socks up” πŸ˜† he wil do well.
    Jake’s boy Ettienne was nowhere.
    The guys that put their hands up in the VC – Fred, Ettiene the monster, Keegan played well in the second half. The props all scrummed well. Hewitt is big strong and skilled, crushed some bones in the cleans. Hewitt far better and skilled than Jake’s boy !
    We have depth in our squads like no other team can dream of. Well done management.

  • Comment 15, posted at 17.03.14 11:24:55 by Observer Reply

  • @jonnow (Comment 12) : I was very chuffed for Ireland and of course for Plum. Really great for him to get an international competition win.

    While we are being happy for ex Sharks in a coaching role lets not forget the crowd at the Lions, Johan Ackerman, Swys de Bruin and Rudolf Straeuli.

  • Comment 16, posted at 17.03.14 11:25:09 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Observer (Comment 15) : How were the Province boys. Did anyone stand out?

  • Comment 17, posted at 17.03.14 11:26:56 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 13) : I would like to see him repeat that kick before giving him extra points for it. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 18, posted at 17.03.14 11:28:07 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Rob, I remember a time when Bissie also almost got no game time, biding his time behind his captain.

    I’m sure at some point Jake will see it fit to give him some kind of a rest, which will give Cooper an opportunity.

    Captains rarely gets subbed these days.

  • Comment 19, posted at 17.03.14 11:43:41 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 19) : Yeah, Bissie was the better hooker but still patiently sat behind Smit in the pecking order.

    I really like Cooper, he ticks all the boxes for a hooker and then some, but he’s not better than Bissie.

    If Bissie had the patience to wait for his chance when he was clearly the best, then the same will be expected from Cooper. In saying that though, I’d like to see 20mins. from Cooper per game, perhaps as the season progress and the vice captains gain confidence, we’ll get to see more of Cooper.

    Come to think of it, we might actually again be sitting with the two best hookers in SA.

  • Comment 20, posted at 17.03.14 11:55:52 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 20) : this is the thing.

    I’m not necessarily saying that Jake should be yanking his captain off… just saying that the team s a whole is letting Kyle down because they’re not creating the sort of match situation that allows him to come on with a decent amount of time remaining.

    Jake seems to believe you keep your skipper on the field until the game is won, which I can’t really argue with. Then again, what happens if Bissie does his ACL this week and we end up with a guy whose played no rugby at all in a 4 months needing to step in? It’s just not sensible or sustainable this way.

  • Comment 21, posted at 17.03.14 12:03:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • I was at a bit of a loss as to why Reinach wasn’t subbed sooner (specifically during our nap-time). He’s the kind of player that has in the past been able to spark things back to life. Small complaint, still happy that we won.

    @Big Fish (Comment 7) : @jonnow (Comment 12) : Points well made. Winning without playing spectacularly well is why there’s always a healthy respect when any Bulls side is faced. It’s a vital attribute for any team that has ambitions to win the competition.

  • Comment 22, posted at 17.03.14 12:05:44 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 22) : I hear what you guys are saying. It’s great to win while playing badly. It’s even better to win by playing well, though with the obvious upside being that it’s a lot harder to actually lose when you play well πŸ™‚

    I feel like we have a monkey on our back at the moment. Hoping the first loss, whenever it comes, isn’t a terrible one and helps us to shake that monkey the following week.

  • Comment 23, posted at 17.03.14 12:08:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 20) : I am sure we shall soon see more of guys like Cooper getting game time against SA teams. You need to build the core and then blood the other boys around the core.

  • Comment 24, posted at 17.03.14 12:11:55 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @Son Of Mayhem (Comment 11) : sounds like he’s hurt it, but hopefully it won’t keep him out.

  • Comment 25, posted at 17.03.14 12:24:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • Lambie slipped a tackle in 1 of the reds trys. Chadwick i am impressed with how he is improving his hard graft, he seems to have grown a bit too. For playing at outside centre I am impressed with how sithole played. For all we say it would be great to hear what SP says about the cross kick.

  • Comment 26, posted at 17.03.14 12:26:11 by Dunx Reply

  • It’s good to see Marcel back to his best, what a pleasure to see him doing so well. I was also very happy for Sbura, though he did really well for a 1st timer at outside centre

    Jannie for me was disgraceful in the manner in which he talked to Lourens, unnacceptable honestly.

  • Comment 27, posted at 17.03.14 12:47:09 by Ludz Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 27) : I’ll admit to having a chuckle at that ‘lecture’ from Jannie even though I realise it’s not on at all.

  • Comment 28, posted at 17.03.14 12:52:52 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 28) : πŸ˜† also had a good laugh hey. Paddy O’Brien πŸ˜†

  • Comment 29, posted at 17.03.14 13:07:32 by Ludz Reply

  • @Ludz (Comment 27) : I like Sbura, tough and gets stuck in! What a good showing!

    Nice article Rob! The ratings are fair. So much criticism of Steyn but I thought he had some good moments on attack-that pass across a few players faces to hit Beast in some space was really good.

    To me, Reinachs kicking was awful. His work at the base of the scrum was poor.

    People forget the amount of tidying up Keegan Daniel used to do at the base of scrums. Kanko is a notch behind Daniel in this regard. Kanko/Mcleod combo is the way to go I think. Daniel/Reinach would solve some of Reinachs inexperience problems. Just a thought.

  • Comment 30, posted at 17.03.14 13:33:10 by Talent Reply
  • Jannie and Reinach were better than 5’s

  • Comment 31, posted at 17.03.14 14:31:53 by Saffex Reply

  • I read that the Reds as a team lost 60kg of body weight during Saturday’s game! That’s one Justin Bieber disappearing into thin air!

  • Comment 32, posted at 17.03.14 14:49:45 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 7) : Very good point. There is one other team in the SR that been winning despite playing below par and that is our closest rival the Chiefs.

  • Comment 33, posted at 17.03.14 15:21:11 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 32) : I suggest returning the lost body mass by chopping up Justin Bieber and allocating the pieces accordingly…

  • Comment 34, posted at 17.03.14 15:40:44 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 34) : This is obviously the only solution to the lost mass. I’d venture that Bieber would feel right at home in an Australian host.

  • Comment 35, posted at 17.03.14 15:53:19 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 33) : I don’t know, hey! The Chiefs and Brumbies look a step up from what we’re producing. The difference in game speed between us and them worries me. Especially if we continue the habit of taking a second half siesta.

  • Comment 36, posted at 17.03.14 16:28:50 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Jake’s insistence on starting with Cobus is robbing us of a free flowing quick game and therefore keeping the opposition in the game. Put Cobus on the bench and bring him on in the last 20 minutes. Very happy with Lambie’s kicking and won’t blame him for not controlling the game better due to the slow stop start game Cobus offers. Think the captaincy is holding Bismarck back from his field presence. He needs to work on how he can be a captain and still be able to bring on the physical. All in all, I’m happy with the performance of the team, just worried about our locks and scrumhalf. The injury to PSDT has robbed us of that hard presence at lock. Bressler needs to up his game. I feel he is just doing enough to keep the chasing pack at bay. Haven’t seen any of the big hits he used to dish out and the continuous clearing of rucks. Come Bressler, time to step-up, we are in week 6 now.

  • Comment 37, posted at 17.03.14 17:44:34 by GreatSharksays Reply

  • @rhineshark (Comment 36) : Not from what I’ve seen.

    Close have lost to the Stormers. Only took the game away in the last 10 minutes or so.
    Should have lost to the Highlanders but didn’t.
    Should have lost to the Crusaders but didn’t. Saders missed 7 odd penalties

    Haven’t watched much of the Brumbies yet but they got beat by the Reds and did not look all that impressive against the Canes who must have been feeling the effects of travel in a big way.

    I would not worry about game speed when we’ve only seen durban games for the Sharks. That humidity is worse than rain and playing at high speed makes for heaps of unforced errors and counter attacks.

  • Comment 38, posted at 17.03.14 18:07:31 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 37) : agreed on Cobus. Charl slots in better with Lambie and generates momentum in combination with Coetzee, Deysel and Alberts. Cobus is a player who needs to be allowed to explore high risk moves because sometimes he pulls it off with gusto and other times not so well. But that makes him such a good fit with McLoed.

  • Comment 39, posted at 17.03.14 19:35:29 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 38) : Look, I know the humidity puts the breaks on flowing/running rugby, but we managed to score from a brilliant set move with Lambie and Mvovo in the first game in the same conditions. Since then nothing.

    I suppose Saturday’s game at Loftus will give a better indication of where we are, if it doesn’t rain.

  • Comment 40, posted at 17.03.14 20:03:19 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 38) :
    You’re swimming upstream here.

    @GreatSharksays (Comment 37) :
    @KILLER SHARK (Comment 39) :
    You guys know that Mcleod has a weak kicking game right? That’s why he is used at a time when a high pace is more important than territory.

  • Comment 41, posted at 17.03.14 20:17:00 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 40) : @gregkaos (Comment 38) : Gents just for interest sake the humidity was over 95% and temp was 27 deg at 20.00 on Sat nite and that outside the stadium,imagine inside,was like a hot steaming wet blanket,you try run around and catch a ball in that,Sharks doin damn fine so far ,as said buckle up its a long road yet

  • Comment 42, posted at 17.03.14 20:34:52 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 42) : that’s why those Reds lost 60 kg in fluids,trust me the beer didn’t even touch sides

  • Comment 43, posted at 17.03.14 20:36:35 by benji Reply
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  • I remember an instance where Oosthuizen was essentially sitting next to a breakdown and tried to make a grab for the ball. It’s that kind of thing that we just don’t need. Also, anybody know how Herbst is doing? I still reckon he could add to the team, even as a loose-head.

  • Comment 44, posted at 17.03.14 21:57:41 by David12246 Reply

  • @Big Fish (Comment 41) : if you take the 2 CC finals he played in and where we won it is clear that his kicking from the base was spot on. Review them and see how he places the short punt with great skill and accuracy and then managed to score a try of the kick. He also manages to clear us out of our 22.

  • Comment 45, posted at 17.03.14 22:24:24 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 45) :
    Mcleod is a super player when it comes to quick ball and breaking, but despite being a leftie, his tactical kicking isn’t great.

    It doesn’t make him a bad player at all – it just means that Reinach has the edge in starting a game, when territory is key.

    Mcleod has been a superb servant to the Sharks and will be sorely missed, but there is good reason that he is best as a super-sub.

  • Comment 46, posted at 17.03.14 22:58:38 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Also, Sithole really needs to work on his offside. That was a real weak point.

  • Comment 47, posted at 18.03.14 00:45:09 by David12246 Reply

  • Re: Varsity Cup

    I see Robert du Preez is receiving praise for his performance for Maties last night. Sadly didn’t see the game, but they beat Tuks 41 – 24 to make the semis and kick Tuks out of contention.

  • Comment 48, posted at 18.03.14 07:44:40 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 48) : Yeh i watched, he was very good but again i think he is better suited to 12 then 10 as he likes to run with the ball instead of distributing to guys outside him. He is a good enough tackler to play 12. His core flyhalf functions are good but he would hamper a good 12 if he was at 10.

  • Comment 49, posted at 18.03.14 08:40:35 by SheldonK Reply

  • @SheldonK (Comment 49) : Okay, thanks for the insights.

  • Comment 50, posted at 18.03.14 08:43:25 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @Big Fish (Comment 46) : what rubbish,those sniping breaks only work against teams who havnt studied him,last years CC both Bullarinas and Netball Players nailed him each time he tried,he cannot vary his game,he also always breaks attacking momentum by arriving late at the breakdown,slow to clean out ,slow to distribute allowing opposition to organise defence lines and then does a two step wiggle the ball shuffle telegraphing exactly what he is doing,he robs the Sharks of plenty tries

  • Comment 51, posted at 18.03.14 08:47:42 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 51) : You sound like a very old woman talking to her semi-senile husband.

    “what rubbish” 😈

  • Comment 52, posted at 18.03.14 08:58:04 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 52) : ott I admit

  • Comment 53, posted at 18.03.14 09:20:24 by benji Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 52) : Nice one…but he does have a point…the Sharks are more cohesive when McLeod is at 9. The better 9 technically…

    That being said I wouldn’t throw either in a dream team. Currie Cup/Super Rugby players, but have no claims to international rugby…Not at this point anyway. Reinach has youth on his side, but otherwise not a brilliant scrummy yet

  • Comment 54, posted at 18.03.14 09:21:59 by pienaar111 Reply

  • @benji (Comment 51) : You sound like Saffex with that line. Review your aspirations. This village already has someone fulfilling that role.

  • Comment 55, posted at 18.03.14 09:27:38 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 55) : Hot damn, you took the words out of my mouth!

  • Comment 56, posted at 18.03.14 09:35:19 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 54) : I was referring to CM and not CR who I also agree is equally inept

  • Comment 57, posted at 18.03.14 09:42:59 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 51) : @pienaar111 (Comment 54) : Sniff / surf around and read what Brendan Venter thinks of our scrummies.

  • Comment 58, posted at 18.03.14 10:12:31 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 49) : But when he does distribute he does it pretty darn well.

  • Comment 59, posted at 18.03.14 10:14:00 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 58) : I also read that….interesting article.

  • Comment 60, posted at 18.03.14 10:49:04 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 51) :
    Thanks for the laugh. I see your “contribution” has been adequately addressed, so will save myself the effort.

  • Comment 61, posted at 18.03.14 10:56:30 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 58) : I don’t rate BV as a coach and as I said before that radical change in tic tacs to win the CC final after two hidings from the the netball players had the Great White written all over them

  • Comment 62, posted at 18.03.14 11:01:01 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 62) : Oh ok. So then I presume you do at least rate Jake White as a coach.

  • Comment 63, posted at 18.03.14 11:19:18 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 63) : yes,one of the top and?

  • Comment 64, posted at 18.03.14 11:31:58 by benji Reply
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  • And I was wondering what your view is of White starting Reinach ahead of Mcleod.

  • Comment 65, posted at 18.03.14 11:46:30 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • I used to think benji had a little boy-crush on Saffex, but now I’m inclined to believe that the two share custody of one brain πŸ˜†

  • Comment 66, posted at 18.03.14 12:28:00 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 66) : Vinkel en koljander

  • Comment 67, posted at 18.03.14 12:30:37 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 66) :
    Come on, I know he’s no intellectual giant, but that’s a bit harsh?

    On Saffex.

    He has been right about what day of the week it was. Once.

  • Comment 68, posted at 18.03.14 12:59:52 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 65) : CM leaving perhaps or simply the toss of a coin when that’s what he has to work with,should do what Lions did and back a youngster like Ungerer

  • Comment 69, posted at 18.03.14 15:59:40 by benji Reply
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